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So I watched the film yesterday. My mum said it was a decent British film and recomended it. Considering the industry she and her partner works in she should be fairly in the know about such things.

I found the film quite interesting. There were a few problems with continuity. The first one is that no tube line runs beneath the Houses of Parliament. The Jubliee line runs beneath the Treasury and the FCO, but that's deepest of all the tube lines.

I then had a problem with it being called a British film because, although it is adapted from a British comic (whose author has criticised the film for being an American Liberal's wet dream), it is actually heavily influenced by non-British people. The lead actress is Natalie Portman (born in Israel), and the lead actor is Hugo Weaving (born in Chicago). Now from an actor in the Matrix we begin to see links to the Matrix crew. The screenplay was adpated by the Wachowski brothers (also American). Finally the director is British, but was the first assistant director on the Matrix films, and could have easily been influenced by the Wachowski brothers in the making of this film.

I know the guy who played the TV studio security guard though... it was really weird to see him in the scene with a ball stuffed in his mouth... He's a fairly rich bachelor who goes golfing up at Epping Forest Golf club. Weird...

Actually if you do a little research Hego Weaving wasn't born in Chicago. According to Wikipedia he was born in Nigeria. He spent his childhood in South Africa and then moved to the UK in his teens. He is now an Australian film and stage actor.

Not having seen the movie do you suggest seeing it yourself?

I found the film quite interesting. There were a few problems with continuity. The first one is that no tube line runs beneath the Houses of Parliament. The Jubliee line runs beneath the Treasury and the FCO, but that's deepest of all the tube lines.So you missed the part about him having to do his own digging?

Actually if you do a little research Hego Weaving wasn't born in Chicago. According to Wikipedia he was born in Nigeria. He spent his childhood in South Africa and then moved to the UK in his teens. He is now an Australian film and stage actor.So who was born in Chicago... I know someone from the Matrix was...

Bah, it was the Wachowski brothers that were born in Chicago. Stupid memory.

Not having any of this background knowledge, the only thing that made me go "wtf?" was the end, where she says "He was my dad... He was me, he was in all of us."
I'm sure there was a reason why she said this, but it just didn't seem the right thing to say for some reason. :rolleyes:
Should you see it? If you're going to see a movie, it's probably as good as any other out there at the moment, imo. :)

So you missed the part about him having to do his own digging?That would be a yes. I remember the Sutler or someone saying the tunnels had been sealed off. And so they needn't worry about them...

Actually if you do a little research Hego Weaving wasn't born in Chicago. According to Wikipedia he was born in Nigeria. He spent his childhood in South Africa and then moved to the UK in his teens. He is now an Australian film and stage actor.

Hmm, doesn't that techically make him an African-American?

Not having any of this background knowledge, the only thing that made me go "wtf?" was the end, where she says "He was my dad... He was me, he was in all of us."
I'm sure there was a reason why she said this, but it just didn't seem the right thing to say for some reason. :rolleyes:
Should you see it? If you're going to see a movie, it's probably as good as any other out there at the moment, imo. :)This is about how the idea survives the death of flesh type thing at the beginning. I think V makes a claim that he won't die because he isn't really flesh, but an idea (in the scene where he kills Creedy). So I think it's reference to that part of the spirit and idea that resides in all of us. Which again you can see hinted at as some of the people who take off their masks are dead people like the lesbian couple and the kid who got shot for wearing a mask.

That would be a yes. I remember the Sutler or someone saying the tunnels had been sealed off. And so they needn't worry about them...When V and Evey were in the tunnels, he explains to her he had to unseal them and dig a few of his own and that it took quite a few years.

Hmm, doesn't that techically make him an African-American?
Erm...I don't think his parents are American, so no. He's Australian, although he could claim Nigerian nationality, as he was born there, and he could also claim the nationality of his parents, whatever that is.

The film's pretty good, I'd reccommend going to see it to whoever it was who asked.

I wanna bomb something, anyone else want to bomb something? I really do, lets' bomb something

When V and Evey were in the tunnels, he explains to her he had to unseal them and dig a few of his own and that it took quite a few years.I think I remember now. Was there something about the final act of revenge after 20 years later in the scene?

Still the blowing up of parliament was shit. It just looked like it had explosive charges set in different parts of the building rather than having its foundations distroyed.

Alan Moore, the original authour of the comic book has actually disowned the movie, he was so disappointed with it...

...I recommend everyone reads the comic book, it's much better, more comprehensive, believeable, fun, and unlike a film it's far easier to get away with your lead character wearing a mask the entire time in a comic book than in a movie where some facial expression is usually needed! It also doesn't have Natalie Portman attempting to keep a British accent, which was just annoying, very annoying. Ah well, nevermind

I personally loved "V", it's the best time I'd had at the movies in a LONG TIME now; the pacing, effects, acting and story presentation were all given very well, and I like a good rebelion film every now and then.

Personally I don't like reviews that focus on the political views expressed by the movie rather than the movie itself. If the fact that an otherwise great movie presents views that you do not like, then save your money. If you can look beyond the politics, and just let yourself enjoy a good thriller, then go for it, I insist.

I enjoyed the movie, and being semi-autistic I also enjoyed having a main character with no facial expressions. But by using the genius I my semi-autistic brain I worked out who V really is. Obviously the reason he wants revenge on the government because he was a jokeshop wholesaler who got stuck with 40,000 suplus masks when the government banned Guy Fawkes celebrations.

I enjoyed the movie, and being semi-autistic I also enjoyed having a main character with no facial expressions. But by using the genius I my semi-autistic brain I worked out who V really is. Obviously the reason he wants revenge on the government because he was a jokeshop wholesaler who got stuck with 40,000 suplus masks when the government banned Guy Fawkes celebrations.

*blink blink*

...I never though of that...wow...

oh cmon Moore disowns everything just so he can keep cred as "outside the hollywood machine". but he doesnt mind the fact that hollywood keep paying him for everything. the movie could have been more faithful to the books yes but it did a pretty good job IMO having read them(well some). most of the changes i noticed were just maknig the context easier for those who hadnt read the comics, something which had to be expected when he sold the rights.
so yeah good movie, go see it

oh cmon Moore disowns everything just so he can keep cred as "outside the hollywood machine". but he doesnt mind the fact that hollywood keep paying him for everything. the movie could have been more faithful to the books yes but it did a pretty good job IMO having read them(well some). most of the changes i noticed were just maknig the context easier for those who hadnt read the comics, something which had to be expected when he sold the rights.
so yeah good movie, go see it

Ach.

I respect the man as an excellent writer and I hope he keeps on doing what he does best...but he really is a whiny little bitch...

*blink blink*

...I never though of that...wow...It's a good explanation as to why he has all those masks, but to why he has all those dominos!

He would have made a fortune selling the rest of those costumes to the public though, as it only looked like he supplied them with the masks. The hat most certainly wasn't big enough to fit into those boxes.

Still the blowing up of parliament was shit. It just looked like it had explosive charges set in different parts of the building rather than having its foundations distroyed.
True, but it went nicely with the music. :D

True, but it went nicely with the music. :D

And that is all that really matters!

To hell with physics!

It's a good explanation as to why he has all those masks, but to why he has all those dominos!
It's obvious. He unloaded some of the masks onto another chain of jokeshops in return for something they were overstocked on. In this case dominos. He would have made a fortune selling the rest of those costumes to the public though, as it only looked like he supplied them with the masks. The hat most certainly wasn't big enough to fit into those boxes. Perhaps people made the hats themselves from the back of Vendetta breakfast cereal packets?

And that is all that really matters!

To hell with physics!

*nods head*

Agreed.

True, but it went nicely with the music. :DYeah... I'll admit that... but that V created by the fireworks right before the fade to black... so predictable... I was wondering when it was going to appear, and was thinking they might not do it in the end, when they finally did. That film contains so little realism... but I liked it. :D

To hell with physics!
*nods head*

Leaps out of chair and does a triple summersault in mid-air.

Agreed.

Oh, useless bit of Trivia. John Hunt who played the totalitarian leader, Sutler, in this film was doing a role reversal from when he played Winston in 1984.

Yeah... I'll admit that... but that V created by the fireworks right before the fade to black... so predictable... I was wondering when it was going to appear, and was thinking they might not do it in the end, when they finally did. That film contains so little realism... but I liked it. :D
It was indeed predictable.

Who cares about realism? If I want realism I'll watch reality tv. Hang on a sec...:p

Hmm, doesn't that techically make him an African-American?

I believe the majority of non-'Africans' in South Africa are descended from Dutch colonists (the Boers) or the English who later moved in on the South African coast and drove the Boers farther inland.

That's interesting, though, I never knew where Hugo Weaving was from. I didn't think his accent wasn't an identifiable American one. Actually, I thought he was Australian (Priscilla, Queen of the Desert).

Alan Moore, the original authour of the comic book has actually disowned the movie, he was so disappointed with it...

...I recommend everyone reads the comic book, it's much better, more comprehensive, believeable, fun, and unlike a film it's far easier to get away with your lead character wearing a mask the entire time in a comic book than in a movie where some facial expression is usually needed! It also doesn't have Natalie Portman attempting to keep a British accent, which was just annoying, very annoying. Ah well, nevermind

No, Alan Moore disowns every film made of his work on principle, and has done for years. It has nothing to do with the quality of the movie itself - haven't seen it myself, don't think it'll be that good compared to the comic but a cut above your usual Hollywood fare at least.

Oh, and incidentally, I saw VfV and *loved* it. In retrospect I found myself noticing how talky it was- I mean, there wasn't a lot of action, long chunks of it were mostly dialogue (but what dialogue!)- but during the movie I didn't even notice because the dialogue was so engrossing. And I loved the dominos sequence. Literally had me shivering. And the storming of Parliament. And the explosions. I definitely intend to buy it when it's released on DVD so I can watch it again whenever I get the urge to have my anti-authoritarian streak touched-up.

I was taken by a friend to see it on my bday - not because I wanted to watch it, but because he did... I didn't really have an interest in it and then it wowed me so I must own it and tell the world of the greatness that is B Por Bendetta

My friend Pasta Maker had a broken leg and couldn't see it. He was depressed about not being able to see a bald Natalie Portman so to cheer him up I bought him a Star Wars Princess Padme action figure and a pen knife.

I've had the GN for over ten years, and I was quite satisfied with the film. Oh, they didn't keep everything from the film (such as the "dolls in the ovens" scene that is so powerful in the book, where V breaks Profero), but then, what works in a 100+ page Graphic Novel doesn't necessarilly translate well to the screen.

They kept what was important. If Alan Moore isn't happy, let's see him make his own film.

Any rumours you may have heard about me making a naked Carrie Fisher with a pen knife and a Star Wars figure are completely baseless.

So I watched the film yesterday. My mum said it was a decent British film and recomended it. Considering the industry she and her partner works in she should be fairly in the know about such things.

The movie's good, yes. But it's not British.

(whose author has criticised the film for being an American Liberal's wet dream)

The author has decried the movie. The illustrator has praised it.

Oh, useless bit of Trivia. John Hunt who played the totalitarian leader, Sutler, in this film was doing a role reversal from when he played Winston in 1984.
Yeah, well WHO ELSE would you expect to?

This is about how the idea survives the death of flesh type thing at the beginning. I think V makes a claim that he won't die because he isn't really flesh, but an idea (in the scene where he kills Creedy). So I think it's reference to that part of the spirit and idea that resides in all of us. Which again you can see hinted at as some of the people who take off their masks are dead people like the lesbian couple and the kid who got shot for wearing a mask.

Ah, it all makes sense :)

Yeah, well WHO ELSE would you expect to?I wasn't expecting anything :p
Ah, it all makes sense :)I've been on this forum so long by ability to distinguish between sarcasm and actual comment has long since evaporated. :confused: