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I just got a phone call telling me that i have to get myself and my men ready to 29 Palms for a pre-deployment excersise. They are pushing our deployment date up a freaking month. And get this, they're attaching us to the 1st brigade of the 10th mountain. The army for cryin out loud. Anyway, thats all the info i got. I'll hopefully be back in 6months. Cya.

be careful

Well, if you die in some desert somewhere, remember: you died for nothing. Just quit now. Don't be a pawn for the voices George Bush's head. You're better than that.

Well, if you die in some desert somewhere, remember: you died for nothing. Just quit now. Don't be a pawn for the voices George Bush's head. You're better than that.

Right from the mouth of an apologist for terrorists.


Keep safe ya' jarhead.

Right from the mouth of an apologist for terrorists.

Get over yourself

Have fun when you can and everywhere you can. :)
AND! No being a hero!

I just got a phone call telling me that i have to get myself and my men ready to 29 Palms for a pre-deployment excersise. They are pushing our deployment date up a freaking month. And get this, they're attaching us to the 1st brigade of the 10th mountain. The army for cryin out loud. Anyway, thats all the info i got. I'll hopefully be back in 6months. Cya.
Serves you right, you jarhead :p (eh, its the army brat in me...)

Be safe. :)

Get over yourself

Screw off.

should you be telling us about military orders? (also odds are you will have internet access at some point or another so you wont be gone long)

Right from the mouth of an apologist for terrorists.


The US Military? No ... I can't stand them. They're useless.

Screw off.

Oooo, witty.

The US Military? No ... I can't stand them. They're useless.

Typical hypocrisy. No suprise from you. Want to keep denying that Iran finances terrorists? You never got back on that one.

I just got a phone call telling me that i have to get myself and my men ready to 29 Palms for a pre-deployment excersise. They are pushing our deployment date up a freaking month. And get this, they're attaching us to the 1st brigade of the 10th mountain. The army for cryin out loud. Anyway, thats all the info i got. I'll hopefully be back in 6months. Cya.

God bless ya and watch your ass . ( them army dudes can get kinda strange ) ;)

Oooo, witty.

It's all it deserved.

You never got back on that one.

And you never offered proof except "do you have blinders on?" ... which isn't proof. Go look up at dictionary.com the definition of proof.

I just got a phone call telling me that i have to get myself and my men ready to 29 Palms for a pre-deployment excersise. They are pushing our deployment date up a freaking month. And get this, they're attaching us to the 1st brigade of the 10th mountain. The army for cryin out loud. Anyway, thats all the info i got. I'll hopefully be back in 6months. Cya.
They're sending you to Iraq or something?

And you never offered proof except "do you have blinders on?" ... which isn't proof. Go look up at dictionary.com the definition of proof.

I offered plenty. Try looking at the thread. Like I said, you'll just ignore it.

It's all it deserved.

So, you're admitting that you're wittless? :p

The US Military? No ... I can't stand them. They're useless.
Yeah, I know huh? I mean, they only saved the world from nazism and communism.

So, you're admitting that you're wittless? :p

It had to match your post.

The US Military? No ... I can't stand them. They're useless.
*sniggers*

Yeah, I know huh? I mean, they only saved the world from nazism and communism.

*shakes fist* I think your leaving a few people out there (also you forgot to mention that pesky Kaiser)

Its scary that soon I will be making a thread like this

It had to match your post.

You were the one who was so full of themself as to call someone a terrorist appologist. I just pointed that out for you.

The US Military? No ... I can't stand them. They're useless.
Ah, yes, completely useless. After all, the U.S. military had NOTHING to do with helping to stop Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Fascist Japan back in World War II. It had NOTHING to do with aiding the Brits and French break the standoff in World War I. It had NOTHING to do with countless actions, from Kosovo to Bosnia, that have aided.

Sheesh. Don't blame the military, Keruvalia. They deserve your respect. They are merely following orders that they must. Bush is the one you should rave at. Not the military.

I hate military hate. I did it myself for a while and seriously regret it now. What's more disappointing is that I went through this military hate phase AFTER a year of being in a junior Air Force ROTC at my high school back in California. I almost wish there was one here at Platte Canyon in Colorado, but meh. The military always deserves respect for what they've done and what they will continue to do. Yes, there have been times when individuals have abused its power. Abu Garaib for instance. But that is not the work of the entire military, and blaming every single member for the act of a few is just as stupid, arrogant, and downright foolish as saying all blacks are criminals because a few are, or all Muslims are suicide bombers because a few are, ect.

You were the one who was so full of themself as to call someone a terrorist appologist. I just pointed that out for you.

Try reading up on his posts. Maybe you'll learn something.

I just got a phone call telling me that i have to get myself and my men ready to 29 Palms for a pre-deployment excersise. They are pushing our deployment date up a freaking month. And get this, they're attaching us to the 1st brigade of the 10th mountain. The army for cryin out loud. Anyway, thats all the info i got. I'll hopefully be back in 6months. Cya.

Hey, we might disagree, but do me a favour and come back in one piece so we can disagree some more.

Yeah, I know huh? I mean, they only saved the world from nazism and communism.

Nazism: The allies won that one. Not just the USA

Communism: Really? How, exactly?

Try reading up on his posts. Maybe you'll learn something.

I read the thread where you were browbeating him for wanting proof of Hezbola's funding. Nowhere in there was he "appologizing" for terrorist activity. In fact, he even said he was Jewish to boot, maybe you need to read more closely, or get glasses to cure that myopia of yours.

Yeah, I know huh? I mean, they only saved the world from nazism and communism.

Not really. Plenty of Communism left in the world. Or did you forget about China, Vietnam, and Cuba?

Nazism? Again, not really. Still plenty of them left in the world. Not really in power anymore and never will be again, but it wasn't just the US Military that did that. I know Americans like to forget the contributions of the British, French, Canadian, and Russian militaries in WWII. They would have been fine without us. May have taken a little longer, but they would have gotten the job done.

The US Military has done nothing but serve the whim of the President since the Civil War.

I just got a phone call telling me that i have to get myself and my men ready to 29 Palms for a pre-deployment excersise. They are pushing our deployment date up a freaking month. And get this, they're attaching us to the 1st brigade of the 10th mountain. The army for cryin out loud. Anyway, thats all the info i got. I'll hopefully be back in 6months. Cya.
As for you: good luck. Don't die on us, 'kay? We need more vets wif stories. Eut's are getting boring.

Good grief. Leave it to NS General to turn a thread on being redeployed into a slugfest on whether or not the military has any value.

I read the thread where you were browbeating him for wanting proof of Hezbola's funding. Nowhere in there was he "appologizing" for terrorist activity. In fact, he even said he was Jewish to boot, maybe you need to read more closely, or get glasses to cure that myopia of yours.

Did you see a response even after I've offered proof? Like I said, keep reading.

Nazism: The allies won that one. Not just the USA

Communism: Really? How, exactly?
Nazism: Without the USA, the allies most likely would not have won, or if they did, the USSR would come out on top and all of Europe would be communist right now.

Communism: By forcing the USSR to compete militarily, thereby draining it of its financial resources, and making it go bankrupt. Also, ever since the Truman Doctrine, confronting and intimidating the USSR.

I'm not saying that everything we did during the Cold WAr was good, (Chile, Vietnam, Iran, Nicaragua, etc come to mind), what I'm saying is that without the USA, Europe would be communist. And probably a whole lot of other countries.

Ah, yes, completely useless. After all, the U.S. military had NOTHING to do with stopping Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Fascist Japan back in World War II.

Incidently, what does any of that have to do with anyone who is currently serving in the military? They haven't done a damn thing.

I know Americans like to forget the contributions of the British, French, Canadian, and Russian militaries in WWII
Do we?

*looks at his post*

Eh, I can see why it might look like I said that. I'm going to edit that, then. My bad.

Laerod: That'll happen anywhere. You should feel lucky that this IS Nationstates. On most, it would just turn into either full on "HAIL MILITARY" love or full on "DIE MILITARY" hate. At least here we're having a discussion, that hopefully no one is taking personally. I know I'm not, at least. =/

Did you see a response even after I've offered proof? Like I said, keep reading.

I tend to give up after asking for proof twice and not getting it. If you've gone in later and added something, oh well. You should have provided proof of your drivel from the get go instead of scouring the internet for conjecture and talking points.

I just got a phone call telling me that i have to get myself and my men ready to 29 Palms for a pre-deployment excersise. They are pushing our deployment date up a freaking month. And get this, they're attaching us to the 1st brigade of the 10th mountain. The army for cryin out loud. Anyway, thats all the info i got. I'll hopefully be back in 6months. Cya.

Good luck and come back safe.

Not really. Plenty of Communism left in the world. Or did you forget about China, Vietnam, and Cuba?

Nazism? Again, not really. Still plenty of them left in the world. Not really in power anymore and never will be again, but it wasn't just the US Military that did that. I know Americans like to forget the contributions of the British, French, Canadian, and Russian militaries in WWII. They would have been fine without us. May have taken a little longer, but they would have gotten the job done.

The US Military has done nothing but serve the whim of the President since the Civil War.
The other countries also made valuable contributions, but ours were the biggest. The other communist countries aren't nearly as imperialist as the USSR was. USSR was the real menace. As for Nazism, sure there are genocidal dictators, but that's what the UN is for.

Or do we have to do everything for you?

I tend to give up after asking for proof twice and not getting it. If you've gone in later and added something, oh well. You should have provided proof of your drivel from the get go instead of scouring the internet for conjecture and talking points.


Thank you for showing your hypocrisy even more. I called it.

what I'm saying is that without the USA, Europe would be communist. And probably a whole lot of other countries.

That's unsubstantiated conjecture.

Incidently, what does any of that have to do with anyone who is currently serving in the military? They haven't done a damn thing.
Have they not, now? I suggest you read up on what the United States military has done over the past decade or so, before you say they haven't done a damned thing.

Of course, it does all come down to Iraq. Seems no one internationally gave a damn about whatever anyone's military did till the U.S. invaded Iraq, giving them a nice little scapegoat. Grah. I hate how the war in Iraq has been handled as much as anyone else, but that's hardly the military's fault. That's Bush's fault for constantly ignoring his generals.

Did you see a response even after I've offered proof? Like I said, keep reading.

That doesn't change the fact that he never once "appologized" for terrorist activity. Thus me telling you to "get over yourself" which you desperatly need to do.

Laerod: That'll happen anywhere. You should feel lucky that this IS Nationstates. On most, it would just turn into either full on "HAIL MILITARY" love or full on "DIE MILITARY" hate. At least here we're having a discussion, that hopefully no one is taking personally. I know I'm not, at least. =/I've been here long enough. I'm sure I've seen some threads by NSers in the military that didn't degenerate into continuations of other threads.

Thank you for showing your hypocrisy even more. I called it.

Asking for proof twice and not getting it until much, much later - after I've left the internet to do other things - is hypocrisy? Please. I have a life outside of listening to you drool, you know.

Incidently, what does any of that have to do with anyone who is currently serving in the military? They haven't done a damn thing.
Well, you said the military itself was useless.

As for right now, they're protecting us from the terrorists ( well, maybe not you, since you seem to be ready to join their ranks if they come calling).

Better to fight Al Qaeda over there than over here.

That doesn't change the fact that he never once "appologized" for terrorist activity. Thus me telling you to "get over yourself" which you desperatly need to do.

Now you need to look up the definition of "apologist".

That's unsubstantiated conjecture.
Ever heard of the Marshall Plan? The Berlin Airlift?

The mere prescense of US soldiers in Europe let the USSR know that if they did mess around, they would get hit.

Asking for proof twice and not getting it until much, much later - after I've left the internet to do other things - is hypocrisy? Please. I have a life outside of listening to you drool, you know.

So basically you're refusing to look at the evidence.

I've been here long enough. I'm sure I've seen some threads by NSers in the military that didn't degenerate into continuations of other threads.
Of course. Again, it's Nationstates. I've not seen a single forum anywhere else this full of intellectual, calm discussion. Stuff like UNA would just be common everyday "Yeah whatever" junk on most other forums, but here, it's rare to see trolling, or insults. Here is normal what is abnormal elsewhere. I love that about Nationstates. Even though most of the time I'm just reading debates rather than participating, I love it.

Good luck and come back safe.
I second that. Ignore these assholes who disrespect you and spit on your courage.

Have they not, now?

No, I don't think they have. I have seen nothing. They weren't even here to help in New Orleans. They were too busy protecting Bush's interests and not protecting the one thing they're supposed to protect: The American People and the Constitution of the United States.

They don't do that anymore. They are useless.

Now you need to look up the definition of "apologist".

Apologist: a person who argues to defend or justify some policy or institution; "an apologist for capital punishment"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Where was he advocating the use of terrorist tactics anywhere?

I second that. Ignore these assholes who disrespect you and spit on your courage.

Courage comes more from the ability to say no than it does from the ability to cater to someone's whim.

Well, you said the military itself was useless.

As for right now, they're protecting us from the terrorists ( well, maybe not you, since you seem to be ready to join their ranks if they come calling).

Better to fight Al Qaeda over there than over here.
As for you: hush. You're embarrassing yourself. Keruvalia is hardly a terrorist apologist. She simply feels--for what I believe to be mislead reasons--that the U.S. military is useless. That does not automatically make her a terrorist or any of that shit. I hate that mentality. It's just not right.

Apologist: a person who argues to defend or justify some policy or institution; "an apologist for capital punishment"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Where was he advocating the use of terrorist tactics anywhere?

He was advocating a gov't that supports terrorist organizations and has openly called for the destruction of an entire nation.

Did you miss that part?

No, I don't think they have. I have seen nothing. They weren't even here to help in New Orleans. They were too busy protecting Bush's interests and not protecting the one thing they're supposed to protect: The American People and the Constitution of the United States.

They don't do that anymore. They are useless.
The National Guard and the Coast Guard was there, and that's what they're for, not the US Army. The New Orleans fiasco had more to do with poor planning and performance by the city, state, and federal officials than the military.

He was advocating a gov't that supports terrorist organizations and has openly called for the destruction of an entire nation.

Did you miss that part?

No, you just seem to have made that part up. I see it nowhere.

should you be telling us about military orders? (also odds are you will have internet access at some point or another so you wont be gone long)
Yeah I was going to say that a guy named Onions Are Cool on my site keeps regular updates there from Iraq. Of course, he flies unmanned drones, but still.

As for right now, they're protecting us from the terrorists ( well, maybe not you, since you seem to be ready to join their ranks if they come calling).


Actually, they're not protecting us from the terrorists. They're in the wrong damn country. If you want to rid the world of terrorists, get rid of Saudi Arabia ... *that* is where they come from. But we can't go attacking the right people, now can we?

I also find it extremely funny that because I'm anti-US Military, I *must* therefore be willing to join the terrorists. With us or against us black and white world, eh? Sad.

No, I don't think they have. I have seen nothing. They weren't even here to help in New Orleans. They were too busy protecting Bush's interests and not protecting the one thing they're supposed to protect: The American People and the Constitution of the United States.

They don't do that anymore. They are useless.
I could point out deployment issues, but you're right on one standpoint: that was a problem forced upon on us more by Bush's interests.

I still don't think the U.S. military is useless. I think what you're really trying to say is that they are being totally MISUSED, and that I will agree with completely. I say we wait a while, see what happens. Maybe when we get a decent President in the military will be used properly again. Or not. I simply hesitate to say that a military could ever be useless, because that's acting as though they were never useful to begin with nor could ever be useful again. What you really mean, simply, is that they are being misused.

No, you just seem to have made that part up. I see it nowhere.

So you're denying that the Iranian Gov't supports terrorist organizations even though they have set some up and has Gov't sponsored Anti-Israeli days?

Courage comes more from the ability to say no than it does from the ability to cater to someone's whim.
How about the willingness do sweat 2 liters a day in 100degree plus weather so that the Humvees keep running? Or is that just fun and games to you?

If you got a problem with the military, take it up with the government. Remember ,it's the presidents, not the generals that start wars.

He was advocating a gov't that supports terrorist organizations and has openly called for the destruction of an entire nation.

Did you miss that part?
Yes actually, because she never said that. I suggest you shut up: you're not helping. Furthermore, you disgust me with your idiotic black and white mentality.

Yes actually. I suggest you shut up: you're not helping. Furthermore, you disgust me with your idiotic black and white mentality.

Really? That's nice.

What you really mean, simply, is that they are being misused.

Bingo.

So you're denying that the Iranian Gov't supports terrorist organizations even though they have set some up and has Gov't sponsored Anti-Israeli days?

I'm not denying anything. But your attacks on another person for having an opinion is completely without class.

Actually, they're not protecting us from the terrorists. They're in the wrong damn country. If you want to rid the world of terrorists, get rid of Saudi Arabia ... *that* is where they come from. But we can't go attacking the right people, now can we?

I also find it extremely funny that because I'm anti-US Military, I *must* therefore be willing to join the terrorists. With us or against us black and white world, eh? Sad.
Actually, they are protecting us. Sure, Iraq wasn't the best country to invade, but Al Qaida are wasting all their resources over there, rather than over here. Saudi Arabia are our allies. Didn't you hear about the attempted oil refinery bombing? That was /Al Qaida's work.

About the second thing. That was spoken in haste, I shouldn't have said it.

How about the willingness do sweat 2 liters a day in 100degree plus weather so that the Humvees keep running?

I find that simply stupid. Having the courage to say no is real courage. Killing yourself over nothing is retarded.

Bingo.
Then say that, rather than saying they are useless. By saying they are useless you cause yourself to be woefully misinterpreted. Hence the idiots who are at this very moment attempting to claim you are a terrorist supporter and all that crap.

No flaming in the thread, people.

I find that simply stupid. Having the courage to say no is real courage. Killing yourself over nothing is retarded.
It's not over nothing to them. It's to protect America from terrorists. Just because you don't appreciate it doesn't mean you're right.

Then say that, rather than saying they are useless. By saying they are useless you cause yourself to be woefully misinterpreted. Hence the idiots who are at this very moment attempting to claim you are a terrorist supporter and all that crap.
I said that in haste, goddamnit!! I didn't really mean it. Jeez.

No flaming in the thread, people.
*nods* Yes sir. Sorry sir.

I said that in haste, goddamnit!! I didn't really mean it. Jeez.
You should say what you mean.

That said, I do apologize to you. Just remember not to speak in haste the next time.

*nods* Yes sir. Sorry sir.


You should say what you mean.

That said, I do apologize to you. Just remember not to speak in haste the next time.
Yeah, I learned my lesson.

I find that simply stupid. Having the courage to say no is real courage. Killing yourself over nothing is retarded.

Saying "no" from the safety of your home is easy. The fact is, the OP is willing to put his @$$ on the line. It's sad that his boss is an idiot, but I don't hold that against him, or anyone else who puts his neck on the line for his country.

I just got a phone call telling me that i have to get myself and my men ready to 29 Palms for a pre-deployment excersise. They are pushing our deployment date up a freaking month. And get this, they're attaching us to the 1st brigade of the 10th mountain. The army for cryin out loud. Anyway, thats all the info i got. I'll hopefully be back in 6months. Cya.

I'd like to thank you for serving our country, and I hope you stay healthy, wherever you're deployed.

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I just got a phone call telling me that i have to get myself and my men ready to 29 Palms for a pre-deployment excersise. They are pushing our deployment date up a freaking month. And get this, they're attaching us to the 1st brigade of the 10th mountain. The army for cryin out loud. Anyway, thats all the info i got. I'll hopefully be back in 6months. Cya.

If you should see this:
A girl I graduated high school with is married to a Marine stationed at Twentynine Palms...his name is Joe Day (he graduated from the same school, but a couple of years earlier). You know him?