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Most movies don't really scare me because I know that they arn't real. Here's one that is and when it hits it'll be a bitch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUiP6dqPynE

That's got nothing on "Glitter" starring Mariah Carey. *shudder*

Seriously though--I'm really looking forward to that film.

Global Warming?

I'm still a bit skeptical. I've had two professors give me two different responses on the same day, and both had peer-groups to back up their claims.

You'd think he'd be happy that florida was going to be wiped out.

Global Warming?

I'm still a bit skeptical. I've had two professors give me two different responses on the same day, and both had peer-groups to back up their claims.
Are you sure that the professor who told you global warming wasn't happening was actually a professor? Are you sure he wasn't....nothing?

Global Warming?

I'm still a bit skeptical. I've had two professors give me two different responses on the same day, and both had peer-groups to back up their claims.

lmao! lol, i see that conservative skeptics are alive and kicking!

Most conservatives on global warming are now admitting that it's a threat or that humans are responsible for it's current state.

I'm a wuss. Any movie with even a hint of scary = terrifying for me. But I suck it up and watch anyway, because I'm hxc like that.

I don't know, the Exorcist is pretty scary even though it's fiction.

Oh God this movie is scary. It has Al "I Invented the Internet" Gore. Wow! I'm so scared I'm going to crap my pants. MMM I love rubbish.

That's got nothing on "Glitter" starring Mariah Carey. *shudder*

Seriously though--I'm really looking forward to that film.

I was going to say Battlefield Earth with John Travolta, but you've jogged my memory with Glitter and I'd have to agree with you on that.

Oh God this movie is scary. It has Al "I Invented the Internet" Gore. Wow! I'm so scared I'm going to crap my pants. MMM I love rubbish.Well, if you're dumb enough to still believe that Gore said that, then I guess you're dumb enough to not believe in global warming. Tell you what--why don't you try walking off the edge of a cliff and not believe in gravity? :rolleyes:

Na....teletubbies movie would be 100x scarier.

Most movies don't really scare me because I know that they arn't real. Here's one that is and when it hits it'll be a bitch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUiP6dqPynE
Heh! I'm just as much for protecting the environment as anyone on here, but I definitely will not go see this movie. :p

Well, if you're dumb enough to still believe that Gore said that, then I guess you're dumb enough to not believe in global warming. Tell you what--why don't you try walking off the edge of a cliff and not believe in gravity? :rolleyes:

LOL is the Earth getting warmer? DUH! It's a natural process of the Earth to warm up, cool down, warm up, cool down, go into an Ice Age, go out of an Ice Age. Nothing that is happening today is new to the Earth. Have humans sped up the process? Certainly, that's a given. Am I going to go into the whole global warming bit and get rid of my car and walk around barefoot? No. The Earth will kill us before we kill it so why should I try to fight that. If my driving my car makes the Earth kill us faster then by all means, I'll drive a bit faster. (No I don't own an SUV).

Rear Window

Rear Window

Sadly...

That shows some messed up priorities.

Sadly...

It was a great thriller.

Yes officer I am aware of the speed limit. No sir. Yes sir. Thank you sir. Walks off with massive ticket but laughs at Earth.

This, without a doubt:

http://www.lethalwrestling.com/le/opinions/news_content.php?fileName=45


Or perhaps Gigli....*shudders*

Demolition Man. Think about it. In this harrowing vision of the future, sex and junk food are illegal, the radio plays commercial jingles all day long, and all the restaurants are Taco Bell. If that's not scary, I don't know what is.

It seems like a good movie and I'm really interested in what Gore has to say but... wow, good we have alienated Republicans more? I do get that Gore actually knows what he's talking about but it still doesn't help the politicizing of the issue.

Aye. An Independent might have been a better host, were it not for Gore literally being the face of the environment. Which is both sad and incredibly amusing.

I'll watch it. What convinced me to what it were those neato "this is what ____ will be like" shots. I love stuff like that. That alone is worth watching it for.

'Course, if you're too cheap to go to the movie theatre and/or just want to see it without paying, you could always try downloading it. You know people are gonna put it up SOMEWHERE.

It seems like a good movie and I'm really interested in what Gore has to say but... wow, good we have alienated Republicans more? I do get that Gore actually knows what he's talking about but it still doesn't help the politicizing of the issue.
If you've listened to Gore's speeches on this issue over the last few years, you'd notice that Gore's mantra is that this is beyond politics, or at least it ought to be. It's hardly Gore's fault that some asshats can't get past the fact that he was VP and should have been President (and they know, deep down, that Gore won Florida) to take note of this important information. They'd rather see the world go to shit than admit that a Democrat is right on something. Reminds me of a quote from the writer Tim O'Brien: "Men killed and died because they were embarassed not to."

If you've listened to Gore's speeches on this issue over the last few years, you'd notice that Gore's mantra is that this is beyond politics, or at least it ought to be. It's hardly Gore's fault that some asshats can't get past the fact that he was VP and should have been President (and they know, deep down, that Gore won Florida) to take note of this important information. They'd rather see the world go to shit than admit that a Democrat is right on something. Reminds me of a quote from the writer Tim O'Brien: "Men killed and died because they were embarassed not to."
Yeah, it sucks. But would you watch the same movie with Bush (acting of course, say the director gave him an oil field to take the part)? I just hate that the discussion of Global Warming becomes "Who invented the internet??"

In all seriousness, though, when does this film get released?

Yeah, it sucks. But would you watch the same movie with Bush (acting of course, say the director gave him an oil field to take the part)? I just hate that the discussion of Global Warming becomes "Who invented the internet??"
I wouldn't, but that's because I'd spend most of the time in the theater shuddering from his stupid goober laugh and wanting to punch him because he'd be talking to the screen like the audience is made up of 4th graders. (I suspect he does that in his speeches because that's how he was briefed on whatever subject he's talking about.)

Besides, it's not like Gore just picked up this issue two years ago. He's been on about the environment for decades now. I'll change my tune if he inserts an announcement that he's running for President in the dvd version, however.

I wouldn't, but that's because I'd spend most of the time in the theater shuddering from his stupid goober laugh and wanting to punch him because he'd be talking to the screen like the audience is made up of 4th graders. (I suspect he does that in his speeches because that's how he was briefed on whatever subject he's talking about.)

Besides, it's not like Gore just picked up this issue two years ago. He's been on about the environment for decades now. I'll change my tune if he inserts an announcement that he's running for President in the dvd version, however.
Thats what I mean though. It just seems like this movie is for the people already concerned, which is fine and everything. I'm really interested in it. It just takes it a step further from making crossing political lines. Your aversion to Bush is matched by their aversion to Gore.

Unless, Conservatives will be able to actually put aside their politics for a moment...

I don't care whether global warming is happening or not, I'm still going to drive my car, still going to use air conditioning (Ralph Nader wanted to ban it), and I'm still going to use up electricity made from the burning of coal.

Plus, I don't think that global warming is people's fault. If you look at the history of our planet throughout it's entire life, you'll notice that we've only had ice-caps for roughly 2% of Earth's history; natural temperature fluctuations have frozen and melted them over and over since the dawn of time. To say that 200 years of human industrialization has managed to affect nature after 4 billion years of natural climate change is foolishness. We have just been in a particularly cold era in Earth's history, and now we're warming up again.

You'd be just as well off blaming global warming on cow flatulence.

Thats what I mean though. It just seems like this movie is for the people already concerned, which is fine and everything. I'm really interested in it. It just takes it a step further from making crossing political lines. Your aversion to Bush is matched by their aversion to Gore.

Unless, Conservatives will be able to actually put aside their politics for a moment...I know what you're saying, and you're probably right, but if they were honest with themselves (well, they wouldn't have voted Bush back into office but that's another story), they'd look at the situation and watch the film. Problem is that that would require them to actually do something, and you can't have that.

I am not one to be easily scared, but The Ring did scare me in a couple of scenes.....the one where that freaky girl climbs out of the TV and zoooooommm she's in your face...

My friend who watched it with me gave away his TV because he was scared...:eek:

Gigli!

So scarry I couldn't watch it.

Funny how you can't be anywhere near a "middle ground" on this issue. Either you see it, or you refuse to. Either you're willing to continue making the world less habitable for humans, or you're trying to protect it. The blase attitude toward the environment will only damage our posterity. If you really don't care about the future of the human race, then by all means, drive your V8 gas monsters. Sure, the planet will eventually set itself right, but will humanity be in the picture?

Stop being so self centered, you humps!!

Funny how you can't be anywhere near a "middle ground" on this issue. Either you see it, or you refuse to. Either you're willing to continue making the world less habitable for humans, or you're trying to protect it. The blase attitude toward the environment will only damage our posterity. If you really don't care about the future of the human race, then by all means, drive your V8 gas monsters. Sure, the planet will eventually set itself right, but will humanity be in the picture?

Stop being so self centered, you humps!!

Ohhhhhkaaaayyyyy?

*starts backing away slowly*

Ohhhhhkaaaayyyyy?

*starts backing away slowly*

What? I don't bite. I just nibble a little ;)

Come off it.

Demolition Man. Think about it. In this harrowing vision of the future, sex and junk food are illegal, the radio plays commercial jingles all day long, and all the restaurants are Taco Bell. If that's not scary, I don't know what is.Don't forget the "Schwarzenegger Library"...

The Autobiography of President Bush.....on tape and DVD!
That would be the scariest movie ever.

Worse natural one...I don't need to go into the Nazi Death Camps to explain where this is headed.....:(

Yeah, see, I watched Farenheit 9/11. Worst two hours of my life, especially since my dad was all "ZOMG THAT WAS AN AWESOME DOCUMENTARY!" Michale Moore can go rot; it was horrid and worked purely at one's emotions to see the way he does that Bush is EVIL INCARNATE! Fortunately, I was for once immune to emotional pulling.

Thing is, what I just wrote up thar was the typical reaction of any Republican to that movie. The fact that this one is made by yet another Dem will make them think "Nah, not worth it: just more EVIL BUSH shit."

Of course, this is obvious, but it still needs to be said.

*pulls up a chair to watch to see if any hardline fanatics come up*:)

That's not scary though. :rolleyes:

Oh God this movie is scary. It has Al "I Invented the Internet" Gore. Wow! I'm so scared I'm going to crap my pants. MMM I love rubbish.

It amazes me how long that, "I invented the internet," BS meme has lasted. The man he might have defeated in 2000(?) repeatedly lies and violates civil liberties, and its a blip. Gore mentions that he introduced legislation funding research that helped create the internet, and his slightly poor wording is eternally distorted. Bush never used poor wording in his quest for the post of autocrat.:rolleyes:

You'd be just as well off blaming global warming on cow flatulence.

actually to my knowledge that is about right most pollution is caused by cattle and rice so you could say it’s the cows fault and thus there problem

i believe it and i didn't need Al Gore to tell me about it. i've known of the things he was talking about for years. information like this is concealed in things called books.. scary thought i know.. books... oooh spooky. :-D
look into geophysics. 3 years ago i knew of the problems with the ice shelf (again that thing called reading). i also am very sure that these problems are aggrivated by humans (that doesn't mean soley caused by). i may or may not watch the movie, but i'll definitley keep picking up those things with all the paper and funny symbols on them LOL

I don't care whether global warming is happening or not, I'm still going to drive my car, still going to use air conditioning (Ralph Nader wanted to ban it), and I'm still going to use up electricity made from the burning of coal.

Plus, I don't think that global warming is people's fault. If you look at the history of our planet throughout it's entire life, you'll notice that we've only had ice-caps for roughly 2% of Earth's history; natural temperature fluctuations have frozen and melted them over and over since the dawn of time. To say that 200 years of human industrialization has managed to affect nature after 4 billion years of natural climate change is foolishness. We have just been in a particularly cold era in Earth's history, and now we're warming up again.

You'd be just as well off blaming global warming on cow flatulence.
Good to see you've given this some thought. Did you do it all by yourself?

Gothica. Watch it when you're really stoned and you'll see what I mean.

Any other time it's not.

Well, if you're dumb enough to still believe that Gore said that, then I guess you're dumb enough to not believe in global warming. Tell you what--why don't you try walking off the edge of a cliff and not believe in gravity? :rolleyes:
True, all he said was "I took the initiative in creating the Internet" a slight difference, but one in which he is still the principal pivot.

As for scariest movie ever: Teenage Caveman.

Oh yes, global warming is scary; scary because it is happening; scary because it doesn’t matter if we’re causing it or not. If we are, it’s irreversible, and the economic effects of attempting to reverse it would be as catastrophic as climate change. On the other hand, if we aren’t causing, well, we’re still screwed then, aren’t we?

Coinciding with peak oil, global warming will, simply put, make life not worth living. When that time comes, when my strivings towards pleasure and knowledge must be set aside in order to struggle for necessities, I will take my own life.

That's not scary.

What's scary is the volcano I'm sitting on top of whose enevitable erruption will spell the end of civilization as we know it. And it will make this whole 'global warming' thing look like a speed bump.

Of course, I'm sure that while Al Gore is all for decrying what we're doing to the environment, he probably flies private jets, drives large SUVs, and enjoys a massive home, all of which is heated, all the time.

Coinciding with peak oil, global warming will, simply put, make life not worth living. When that time comes, when my strivings towards pleasure and knowledge must be set aside in order to struggle for necessities, I will take my own life.

Ironic that you would take your life when, for the first time in your life, you would be living as pure a life as a human being can.

Are you sure that the professor who told you global warming wasn't happening was actually a professor? Are you sure he wasn't....nothing?
Is that a Family Guy refference I detect?

Ironic that you would take your life when, for the first time in your life, you would be living as pure a life as a human being can.
I don’t desire a “pure” life, whatever that means. I desire an enjoyable life.

I don’t desire a “pure” life, whatever that means. I desire an enjoyable life.

How can you know that you wouldn't enjoy living like an animal?

Are you sure that the professor who told you global warming wasn't happening was actually a professor? Are you sure he wasn't....nothing?

Oh yes he was a professor.

lmao! lol, i see that conservative skeptics are alive and kicking!

Most conservatives on global warming are now admitting that it's a threat or that humans are responsible for it's current state.

He was also likely a liberal one. He's never come out and said his political ideology, however I've inferred that he's very pro-environment based on his lectures. He isn't this ultra-republican that you appear to be thinking he is based on your post.

He was also likely a liberal one. He's never come out and said his political ideology, however I've inferred that he's very pro-environment based on his lectures. He isn't this ultra-republican that you appear to be thinking he is based on your post.

Most likely he was honest.

People don't really know. Not about any of this shit. Hell, people can't really explain why aircraft can land and we've been doing that for a century....

It's all bolloicks,

The Sixth Sense

*shivers*

Most likely he was honest.

People don't really know. Not about any of this shit. Hell, people can't really explain why aircraft can land and we've been doing that for a century....

It's all bolloicks,

The point I was inferring (as I'm sure you know) was that it's simply ridiculus to apply "conservative" to anyone who is skeptical or rejects global warming.

However, the scariest thing I've ever done was play Silent Hill at night with the lights off.

Oh yes, global warming is scary; scary because it is happening; scary because it doesn’t matter if we’re causing it or not. If we are, it’s irreversible, and the economic effects of attempting to reverse it would be as catastrophic as climate change. On the other hand, if we aren’t causing, well, we’re still screwed then, aren’t we?

Coinciding with peak oil, global warming will, simply put, make life not worth living. When that time comes, when my strivings towards pleasure and knowledge must be set aside in order to struggle for necessities, I will take my own life.
Will you give me your things?

The point I was inferring (as I'm sure you know) was that it's simply ridiculus to apply "conservative" to anyone who is skeptical or rejects global warming.
You're right. Stupid is much more apt of a tag to label them with.

The thing I don't understand is, if this is a movie about global warming, why did they show a picture of a nuclear power plant at the begining of the trailer?

Will you give me your things?
First come, first serve.

You're right. Stupid is much more apt of a tag to label them with.
It's fine to be skeptical to specific findings but to believe that global warming isn't happening, that is remarkably stupid.

First come, first serve.
I'll give you a bunch of empty boxes with my address. Just dump them in there and call Fed Ex before you do the deed.

It's fine to be skeptical to specific findings but to believe that global warming isn't happening, that is remarkably stupid.
Yep. Although there are some energy companies who are writing remarkably large checks to get some "scientists" to write "reports" that say there's some doubt about global warming. Of course, that money's not going to do them much good when the environment goes to hell in a fucked up Hyundai, so that still counts as stupid in my book.

Yep. Although there are some energy companies who are writing remarkably large checks to get some "scientists" to write "reports" that say there's some doubt about global warming. Of course, that money's not going to do them much good when the environment goes to hell in a fucked up Hyundai, so that still counts as stupid in my book.
My favorite is Global Warming is good for us... it's so amazingly clever and sinister. It's like something straight out of the Hall of Doom.

Well, if you're dumb enough to still believe that Gore said that, then I guess you're dumb enough to not believe in global warming. Tell you what--why don't you try walking off the edge of a cliff and not believe in gravity? :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, he DID say that.

GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.

But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.

During a quarter century of public service, including most of it long before I came into my current job, I have worked to try to improve the quality of life in our country and in our world. And what I've seen during that experience is an emerging future that's very exciting, about which I'm very optimistic, and toward which I want to lead.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript.gore/

So who's dumb now?

Unfortunately, he DID say that.

GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.

But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.

During a quarter century of public service, including most of it long before I came into my current job, I have worked to try to improve the quality of life in our country and in our world. And what I've seen during that experience is an emerging future that's very exciting, about which I'm very optimistic, and toward which I want to lead.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript.gore/

So who's dumb now? By which he meant that he'd shepherded through Congress the necessary funding for the technology that became the internet. Vinton Cerf said as much. So instead of trying to play stupid fucking gotcha games, why don't you acknowledge that the man did a whole lot more for this planet than you'll ever hope to?

Wanna scary story? I'll tell you one: There will be a solar storm soon so powerful it could wipe out all electronics in the world.

By which he meant that he'd shepherded through Congress the necessary funding for the technology that became the internet. Vinton Cerf said as much. So instead of trying to play stupid fucking gotcha games, why don't you acknowledge that the man did a whole lot more for this planet than you'll ever hope to?

I though gotcha games were your speciality? And just exactly did Al Gore do exactly? Besides merely provide proof that a Democrat (Gore) could be just as stupid as a Republican (Quayle)?

Just called you on a false statement. No need to get defensive. Jeez.

I though gotcha games were your speciality? And just exactly did Al Gore do exactly? Besides merely provide proof that a Democrat (Gore) could be just as stupid as a Republican (Quayle)?

Just called you on a false staement. No need to get defensive. Jeez.
From Wikipedia (the last statement is the important one and if you feel Wikipedia is not to be trusted, the quote can be found on a ton of sites with a simple google search):

In 1991, Gore sponsored the High Performance Computing Act of 1991 which advanced the growth and mainstreaming of the Internet during the 1990s [24]. In 1999, during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN's "Late Edition" on March 9, 1999, Gore said:

During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system [25].
This statement has been the target of satire and criticism. Some of this criticism has been based on the interpretation that Gore was claiming to have invented or created the internet [26]. Internet pioneers Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf defended Gore's statement:

...as the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time. [27]


But arguing about things like this is exactly what is taking us away from the issue of Climate Change.

I though gotcha games were your speciality? And just exactly did Al Gore do exactly? Besides merely provide proof that a Democrat (Gore) could be just as stupid as a Republican (Quayle)?

Just called you on a false statement. No need to get defensive. Jeez.
Then you thought wrong. I don't play gotcha games. I point out bullshit wherever I see it. As to Gore's statement, the first person on this thread to mention it (Ravenshrike I believe) quoted Gore as saying "I invented the internet." Gore didn't say that. He said, as you noted, "I took the initiative," as in, took the lead, which is what he did in the US Congress, and as Desperate Measures showed, some noted computer scientists noted Gore's contributions. Did Gore word his statement inartfully? Probably. But he was accurate, and he didn't say what he's commonly accused of saying.

Still want to fuck with me?

Then you thought wrong. I don't play gotcha games. I point out bullshit wherever I see it. As to Gore's statement, the first person on this thread to mention it (Ravenshrike I believe) quoted Gore as saying "I invented the internet." Gore didn't say that. He said, as you noted, "I took the initiative," as in, took the lead, which is what he did in the US Congress, and as Desperate Measures showed, some noted computer scientists noted Gore's contributions. Did Gore word his statement inartfully? Probably. But he was accurate, and he didn't say what he's commonly accused of saying.

Still want to fuck with me?

Why, sure. You amuse me greatly. Particularly when you are seized with inarticulate rage. Like now. But I am done commenting on Al Gore on a Global Warming thread.

I'm sure we'll talk later, old friend.

Why, sure. You amuse me greatly. Particularly when you are seized with inarticulate rage. Like now. But I am done commenting on Al Gore on a Global Warming thread.

I'm sure we'll talk later, old friend.
You're probably catching some of the backlash from my essay grading--imagine what they're getting right now.