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Here's the scenario. You're "accidentally" chryogenically frozen for 250 years. You are then revived by futuristic scientists. The world has gone through WWIII and WWIIII. The world now only has 15 countries, each being equally powerful. We have bases on the moon and on mars. 150 years after you were frozen, the world was put under one ruler for 50 years, until civil war broke the world apart again. We have laser guns. :D The country your currently in right now is a police state, and the police are searching for you, trying to kill you, as it turns out you are a relative of one of the other countries rulers. A rogue scientist defrosted you. He wants you to help him take down the government. Apparently, you are the strongest person on earth, as humans have become expotentially weaker over the last 250 years, to the point where you are as powerful as a titan compared to them. What do you do? Just an interesting little scenario to see what people will do.

Here's the scenario. You're "accidentally" chryogenically frozen for 250 years. You are then revived by futuristic scientists. The world has gone through WWIII and WWIIII. The world now only has 15 countries, each being equally powerful. We have bases on the moon and on mars. 150 years after you were frozen, the world was put under one ruler for 50 years, until civil war broke the world apart again. We have laser guns. :D The country your currently in right now is a police state, and the police are searching for you, trying to kill you, as it turns out you are a relative of one of the other countries rulers. A rogue scientist defrosted you. He wants you to help him take down the government. Apparently, you are the strongest person on earth, as humans have become expotentially weaker over the last 250 years, to the point where you are as powerful as a titan compared to them. What do you do? Just an interesting little scenario to see what people will do.
Get back to whichever country the relative of mine rules, and bitchslap him/her back to the Stone Age. Then I can rule that country and die after a life of opulence, decadence and indulgence 70 years later.

I'd probably log onto NS and start a new country since Drunk Commies Deleted would be deleted due to inactivity. Then I'd spend my time debating about whether we should wage war on our alien neighbors.

You are then revived by futuristic scientists. The world has gone through WWIII and WWIIII.

IV. Do they teach you nothing at schools these days?

What good would being immensely powerful be?

They'd just shoot you with their lasers.

First task....impregnate as many women as possible with my super-genes and my awesome lover status. :D Rule the world with peace and compassion and make clones of myself to rule when I die...or use a cyborg body instead...

Thus the world is safe and the world is mine! :D

What good would being immensly powerful be?

They'd just shoot you with their lasers.

They wouldn't shoot you if you were the only one to give them strong kids again. :p

IV. Do they teach you nothing at schools these days?
Maybe his teacher was "Chryogenically" frozen before teaching Roman numerals.

IV. Do they teach you nothing at schools these days?
Rocky 2 + Rocky 5 = ...

You just have to pay attention.

IV. Do they teach you nothing at schools these days?
I'm lazy like that. Sorry, WWIV. Problem is, no one would think that WWIV would ever happen.

LOL. Ya. World War IIII...right. World War IV baby!

Isn't this like, role play, or something?

I'm lazy like that. Sorry, WWIV. Problem is, no one would think that WWIV would ever happen.

But typing WWIIII takes longer than typing WWIV?

I'm lazy like that. Sorry, WWIV. Problem is, no one would think that WWIV would ever happen.

I do. :O

Maybe his teacher was "Chryogenically" frozen before teaching Roman numerals.

Oh, don't get me started on the rest of the abysmal spelling...

Liasia']Isn't this like, role play, or something?

Why must you use that word? "Like"

Liasia']Isn't this like, role play, or something?
No.

Oh, don't get me started on the rest of the abysmal spelling...
Dude, you try spelling 14 letter words correctly!

Why must you use that word? "Like"

I, like, agree with you. :D

Dude, you try spelling 14 letter words correctly!
Cryogenically.

That's 13 letters. :p

Obviously World War IV started with a disagreement over Roman numerals...

I, like, agree with you. :D

I would slap you with a fish if you said that to my face.

Dude, you try spelling 14 letter words correctly!

Just spell check using google.

Dude, you try spelling 14 letter words correctly!

Its not a hard one. You were close, but its best to learn how to spell for everyone's benefit. ^-^

Here's the scenario. You're "accidentally" chryogenically frozen for 250 years. You are then revived by futuristic scientists. The world has gone through WWIII and WWIIII. The world now only has 15 countries, each being equally powerful. We have bases on the moon and on mars. 150 years after you were frozen, the world was put under one ruler for 50 years, until civil war broke the world apart again. We have laser guns. :D The country your currently in right now is a police state, and the police are searching for you, trying to kill you, as it turns out you are a relative of one of the other countries rulers. A rogue scientist defrosted you. He wants you to help him take down the government. Apparently, you are the strongest person on earth, as humans have become expotentially weaker over the last 250 years, to the point where you are as powerful as a titan compared to them. What do you do? Just an interesting little scenario to see what people will do.

Isn't it obvious? I play in mud. :)

No.

looks like it

Obviously World War IV started with a disagreement over Roman numerals...
Vladimir Marx: ITS IIII!

Adolf Mousillini: ITS IV!

Vladimir Marx: IIII!

Adolf Mousillini: IV!!!!!!

Vladimir Marx: FACIST PIG!

*Gunshot*

*Two Days Later*

EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT! ADOLF MOUSILLINI ASSASSINATED! WWIV STAR- *Gunshot*

Marxo Soldier: ITS IIII!!!!!

Obviously World War IV started with a disagreement over Roman numerals...
It actually are WWIIV we is talking about, can you not count good or something?

Why must you use that word? "Like"

Dunno. Why must you object to me using such a word? i also say 'dude' alot:)

Here's the scenario. You're "accidentally" chryogenically frozen for 250 years. You are then revived by futuristic scientists. The world has gone through WWIII and WWIIII. The world now only has 15 countries, each being equally powerful. We have bases on the moon and on mars. 150 years after you were frozen, the world was put under one ruler for 50 years, until civil war broke the world apart again. We have laser guns. :D The country your currently in right now is a police state, and the police are searching for you, trying to kill you, as it turns out you are a relative of one of the other countries rulers. A rogue scientist defrosted you. He wants you to help him take down the government. Apparently, you are the strongest person on earth, as humans have become expotentially weaker over the last 250 years, to the point where you are as powerful as a titan compared to them. What do you do? Just an interesting little scenario to see what people will do.

So were weaker physically, yet we seem to spend alot of time in Space?

Naliitr, that is a marvellous personal message. *steals*

It actually are WWIIV we is talking about, can you not count good or something?

NOT FUNNY!

Dude, you try spelling 14 letter words correctly!

Cryogenically is a 13-letter word, but you failed with such small ones as "you're," "countries'," "exponentially" and "Mars."

Liasia']Dunno. Why must you object to me using such a word? i also say 'dude' alot:)

Because, you are destroying the current English language. If you want a language to destroy, go speak French, it is well on its way anyways.

Cryogenically is a 13-letter word, but you failed with such small ones as "you're," "countries'," "exponentially" and "Mars."

Yes, but you put a full stop within the quotation marks. That is not acceptable in England.

Cryogenically is a 13-letter word, but you failed with such small ones as "you're," "countries'," "exponentially" and "Mars."

*whisper*
Its Fass....spelling Nazi and English enforcer! Don't screw up!

Yes, but you put a full stop within the quotation marks. That is not acceptable in England.

Actually, it is, as long as you're consistent.

Actually, it is.
Actually, it is not.

Actually, it is not.

Actually, it is.

Yes, but you put a full stop within the quotation marks. That is not acceptable in England.
Nonsense. That's how I was taught how to do it, and how I do do it.

Besides, 'not acceptable?' I think that's taking things a little bit too far. Are you going to drag him outside and give him a caning? :rolleyes:

Because, you are destroying the current English language. If you want a language to destroy, go speak French, it is well on its way anyways.

I can speak English perfectly well. I just choose not to, and i doubt that you have the autority to say i am incorrect.

Nonsense. That's how I was taught how to do it, and how I do do it.

Besides, 'not acceptable?' I think that's taking things a little bit too far. Are you going to drag him outside and give him a caning? :rolleyes:

Not how I was taught.

Not how I was taught.
So you claim to speak for the entire English language because of how you were taught?

The rule varies in different circumstances.

Besides, 'not acceptable?' I think that's taking things a little bit too far. Are you going to drag him outside and give him a caning? :rolleyes:
He wants to cane Fass already? How does he do it? Just how does he do it?

Irresistible is what he is.

[Assumed Subject and Verb: That is] Not funny!
Now that is looking better.
That may be "not funny" but it is fun.

Liasia']I can speak English perfectly well. I just choose not to, and i doubt that you have the autority to say i am incorrect.

I have a lot of autority.

Not how I was taught.

There we have it, ladies and gentlemen! The golden standard.

Yes, but you put a full stop within the quotation marks. That is not acceptable in England.
It might not be acceptable in England but it's fine in English. As Fass said, "as long as you're consistent."

So you claim to speak for the entire English language because of how you were taught?
No, I claim to speak for the English language as is correct within the the United Kingdom and her commonwealth, because I know what I said to be the case.

It might not be acceptable in England but it's fine in English. As Fass said, "as long as you're consistent."

The thing being that it is "acceptable" in England as well.

The thing being, that it is acceptable in England as well.
It's not though. If you were quoting a punctuated sentence within your speech marks, it would be correct; you were not.

No, I claim to speak for the English language as is correct within the the United Kingdom and her commonwealth, because I know what I said to be the case.

You were just talking about England, and now all of a sudden, you're talking about, and for, the UK and the Commonwealth?

I have a lot of autority.

Such as? I'd like to remind you speech patterns change all the time and labelling the use of 'like' as destroying the English language seems a bit silly and over-exagerrated when you think about it.

Damn. just noticed i spelt authority wrong. :rolleyes: me silly

It's not though.

It is.

Liasia']I can speak English perfectly well. I just choose not to, and i doubt that you have the autority to say i am incorrect.


*snicker* *snicker*

That shows us how much English you know. :D

*snicker* *snicker*

That shows us how much English you know. :D

Well, it shows how much i read my posts after i've written them. Not much else.

It is.
I shall cover both points in one. England is within the United Kingdom and her commonwealth. Within the United Kingdom and her commonwealth, the use of speech marks is subject to logic.

No, I claim to speak for the English language as is correct within the the United Kingdom and her commonwealth, because I know what I said to be the case.
I think you'll find there are two views on this - the logical view, and the conventional view. The logical view states you should only put punctuation in the quotation marks if it is in the original quote. The conventional view states that you can do pretty much what the hell you like, so long as you finish the goddamn sentence.

No, I claim to speak for the English language as is correct within the the United Kingdom and her commonwealth, because I know what I said to be the case.
Actually, you know it to be the case for you. I have a (British) punctuation book in front of me, and that actually uses both forms, in the section on quotation marks.

You shouldn't assume that just because one thing is right that everything else is automatically wrong.

Actually, you know it to be the case for you. I have a (British) punctuation book in front of me, and that actually uses both forms, in the section on quotation marks.

You shouldn't assume that just because one thing is right that everything else is automatically wrong.

Please provide the examples; they will either back up what I have said, or they are wrong.

Grammar Nazis.

Please provide the examples; they will either back up what I have said, or they are wrong.
It's more than a page long, I'm not writing that all out. Buy the book yourself.

Anyway, I think this is boring us all. So shall we accept that I know you're wrong and that you know I'm wrong?

I shall cover both points in one. England is within the United Kingdom and her commonwealth.

Yes, but you were speaking about and for England, and then all of a sudden switched to the UK and the Commonwealth.

Within the United Kingdom and her commonwealth, the use of speech marks is subject to logic.

Which just goes to show how little you know about the English language.

Please provide the examples; they will either back up what I have said, or they are wrong.

Actually he is right, I've seen a trend of this to, but its not exactly held by the younger groups, it was a little outmoded in favor of the English system where the comma follows the closing quotation tags.

That is essentially arguing the point that words HAVE to be listed in a '1, 2, 3, and 4' when '1, 2 ,3 and 4' is also acceptable.

Back on topic please.

Back on topic please.

There's a topic? ;)

Back on topic please.

Surely you need a verb in that sentence?!

Yes, but you were speaking about and for England, and then all of a sudden switched to the UK and the Commonwealth.



Which just goes to show how little you know about the English language.

You're wrong and I think you should admit defeat.

:d

Back on topic please.

Commatise, please.

You are not asking a question. Wait, are you?

My post was a perfectly correct question, wasn't it?

Liasia']Surely you need a verb in that sentence?!
You are not asking a question. Wait, are you?

You're wrong

I am not.

and I think you should admit defeat.

I think you should keep dreaming.

I am not.



I think you should keep dreaming.

You are and I shall. :)

You're wrong and I think you should admit defeat.
Well that's a well thought out, persuasive argument. :rolleyes:

When my Japanese friend says, "I is hungry," I don't correct her grammar, I give her something to eat. Life is much better that way. Any time spent discussing grammar could be much more profitably spent discussing nuclear physics or watching clouds drift by. She will learn more from my example than my hectoring. Communication is such a difficult thing that as long as understand each other we are doing well. And I think that one of the reasons that English is so popular around the world is that people have been free to adapt it to their needs. To confine a language is probably to kill it. A lot of people speak Italian, but not many speak Latin.

You are

I am not.

and I shall. :)

I doubt you ever ceased.

Back on topic please.

Okay. What I'd do is wait for someone to make grammar errors, then I'd slap him silly with my superior strength. :D

I am not.



I doubt you ever ceased.

It's possible that this will get repetitive :p. You are wrong and I never denied dreaming.

When my Japanese friend says, "I is hungry," I don't correct her grammar, I give her something to eat. Life is much better that way. Any time spent discussing grammar could be much more profitably spent discussing nuclear physics or watching clouds drift by. She will learn more from my example than my hectoring. Communication is such a difficult thing that as long as understand we/people each other we are doing well. And I think that one of the reasons that English is so popular around the world is that people have been free to adapt it to their needs. To confine a language is probably to kill it. A lot of people speak Italian, but not many speak Latin.
Couldn't resist ;)

W Any time spent discussing grammar could be much more profitably spent discussing nuclear physics
Can you imagine the nuclear holocaust that could occur if we took your advise and threw grammar to the wind?

"Stop! Danger if this button is pressed."

"Stop danger if this button is pressed."

It's possible that this will get repetitive :p.

It is as certain as your being in the wrong.

You are wrong

I am not.

and I never denied dreaming.

Unsurprisingly.

Couldn't resist.
The case of the missing punctuation.

Because, you are destroying the current English language. If you want a language to destroy, go speak French, it is well on its way anyways.
Oh no, he's using SLANG, and dare I say it, A DIFFERENT DIALECT!

Fact is, languages are always evolving. They don't just stop because you want them to. Also, there is no "true" English. There are only dialects. The same is true with every other language.

It is as certain as your being in the wrong.

So you're saying that it won't get repetitive(?)


I am not.

Yes you are.

Unsurprisingly.

Does it need to be surprising?

You're wrong and I think you should admit defeat.
Actually, you are.
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pun1.htm
Here, it says, and I quote:
British English has moved away from this style while American English has retained it. British style now prefers to punctuate according to the sense, in which punctuation marks only appear inside quotation marks if they were there in the original.
Now go back to the original post. Where was there a full stop? Right after Mars.

Hah!

And in common use, whatever way is used consistently is proper. I'm in Ireland, where we speak 'proper' English (no American), and I was taught that punctuation goes inside.

Anyways, in an attempt to actually answer the topic, In 250 years humans are highly unlikely to atrophy to such a degree - unless every person on the planet spends their life sitting around, in which case just making new babies and getting them to exercise will make 'super-strong' folk.

But in the event described, I'd be screwed, due to their weapons, which would probably be genocoded to the owner or something... Unless I could get my hands on them. Or sneak to the other country and make millions of new babies!

Oh no, he's using SLANG, and dare I say it, A DIFFERENT DIALECT!

Fact is, languages are always evolving. They don't just stop because you want them to. Also, there is no "true" English. There are only dialects. The same is true with every other language.

Load of hooey! Get a textbook and see for yourself.

There are only dialects. The same is true with every other language.
Unless the speakers of those inteligible dialects decide to make an official language.

Load of hooey! Get a textbook and see for yourself.

Which textbook would this be? Because all the ones i've read support him.

So you're saying that it won't get repetitive(?)

I see it is not just your command of punctuation that is flawed, but your reading comprehension, too.

Yes you are.

I am not.

Does it need to be surprising?

In your case it wouldn't have been even if such were the situation.

Subjective. You may deem it as the "official" dialect of the language but that doesn't mean it's going to be. Societies have been trying that for ages. Remember William the Conquerer and the subsequent banning of English? The official stuff didn't exactly stop English from continuing to evolve, now did it?

As I said, there are only dialects. Languages evolve and change, and we can't stop that. And why would we want to, if all it causes are arguments like this? There was what, maybe THREE posts in this entire thread having to do with the original reason it was made? Sheesh.

Liasia']Which textbook would this be? Because all the ones i've read support him.

English 3200. XD

I is glad me know other language, more better than English.

English 3200. XD

You need to get some different textbooks, my friend.

Subjective. You may deem it as the "official" dialect of the language but that doesn't mean it's going to be. Societies have been trying that for ages. Remember William the Conquerer and the subsequent banning of English? The official stuff didn't exactly stop English from continuing to evolve, now did it?

As I said, there are only dialects. Languages evolve and change, and we can't stop that. And why would we want to, if all it causes are arguments like this? There was what, maybe THREE posts in this entire thread having to do with the original reason it was made? Sheesh.

Maybe the language should have been cryogenically frozen for 250 years. :)

I see it is not just your command of punctuation that is flawed, but your reading comprehension, too.

I was just being facetious.

I am not.

Yes you are.

In your case it wouldn't have been even if such were the situation.

I'm insulted.

Liasia']You need to get some different textbooks, my friend.

Actually it covers everything that is wrong with his use of the language. I'm sorry, it is true.

Maybe the language should have been cryogenically frozen for 250 years.
People seem to often forget that English also changed a great deal during that time, absorbing quite a few new words from the French language of that time. The same is true throughout English, and indeed, most other language's histories. They evolve and change. Acting as if they won't is stupid and arrogant. Acting as if your dialect is the true dialect of a language is even more arrogant. I can't stand people doing that, whether it's self-rightious Brits, Joe Beercan Americans, Canadians, or anyone else.

Can you imagine the nuclear holocaust that could occur if we took your advise and threw grammar to the wind?

"Stop! Danger if this button is pressed."

"Stop danger if this button is pressed."

I have to admit, there was a subcritical nuclear accident while I was in Japan...

Subjective. You may deem it as the "official" dialect of the language but that doesn't mean it's going to be.
Oh, no, that is incorrect. I've been ganged raped by Germans on this forum and in real life for saying the very same thing you are claiming.
There is no "official dialect". There's an official language, with dialects making up sub-languages. Accent is not the same thing as dialect, until you get into the grey area of speakers with an accent speaking a certain dialect of a foreign language, in which case a new term needs to be invented.
I've also never "deemed" any sort of language as the "official" dialect of something. Stop accusing me of such things!
There was what, maybe THREE posts in this entire thread having to do with the original reason it was made?
Like languages, threads evolve, why would we want to stop that?

I was just being facetious.

That's a novel way to say "wrong."

Yes you are.

I am not. Also, interjections such as "yes" are set off with a comma. Your punctuation skills are lacking once more, it would seem.

I'm insulted.

Good.

Like languages, threads evolve, why would we want to stop that?

Or devolve, as the case may be.

Asbena, read a linguistics book. Or just google pidgins and creoles. You'll find out that Kyronea is right.
German and French both have official versions that are maintained by specific bodies - le Academie Francaise for French, for example. Otherwise, a standard language is just the one that is commonly accepted as the standard language, or ruled so in law. Dialects are derived from a common root language - which may be the standard language.

ConscribedComradeship, read that link yet? Willing to admit defeat?

Back to the topic, then. After being criogenically frozen for 250 years, the first thing I would do is go to Fass and ConscribedComradeship's tanks and smash them!

Then the world would hail me as a hero and I will be named Emperor for life.

That's a novel way to say "wrong."

No, it means I was joking.

I am not. Also, interjections such as "yes" are sot off with a comma. Your punctuation skills are lacking once more, it would seem.

Yes, you are. Why don't you read the link (http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pun1.htm) which Kalmykhia provided; it both backs me up and throws numerous insults at me. Sorry about that, "yes, you are" is, of course, what I ought to have said.

Good.

There's no need to be mean.

Or devolve, as the case may be.
Language "evolution" is built upon carelessness and laziness.

German and French both have official versions that are maintained by specific bodies - le Academie Francaise for French, for example.

1. It is "une academie." Thus "la."

2. As "academie" is commenced by a vowel, elision between it and "la" occur, thus "l'academie française." I will forgive the lack of cedille.

I've been ganged raped by Germans on this forum and in real life for saying the very same thing you are claiming.


Crikey! when I was at school they just put a big red cross. Times have changed!

Yes, you are. Why don't you read the link (http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pun1.htm) which Kalmykhia provided; it both backs me up and throws numerous insults at me. Sorry about that, "yes, you are" is, of course, what I ought to have said.
You should read it again. Specifically the bit I quoted. Look at the position of the punctuation in the original...

You should read it again. Specifically the bit I quoted. Look at the position of the punctuation in the original...
You don't seem to understand your own source.

1. It is "une academie." Thus "la."

2. As "academie" is commenced by a vowel, elision between it and "la" occur, thus "l'academie française." I will forgive the lack of cedille.

Oh, if you're being pedantic, what about the acute accent on the first e?
French grammar is my personal weakness. I never remember gender. I should however, have remembered the elision.

CC, I do. Did you read the quote? Once again:
British English has moved away from this style while American English has retained it. British style now prefers to punctuate according to the sense, in which punctuation marks only appear inside quotation marks if they were there in the original.
Was there a punctuation mark after Mars in the original? There was. Therefore, even under British rules, he was right to include it.

No, it means I was joking.

Jokes tend to be funny. Perhaps you should remember that for future reference?

Yes, you are. Why don't you read the link (http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pun1.htm) which Kalmykhia provided; it both backs me up and throws numerous insults at me.

It does not back you up. Your claim as to the unacceptability of my usage remains vapid, not to mention the relevance of British rules to my international English.

Sorry about that, "yes, you are" is, of course, what I ought to have said.

See, admitting you are wrong when it is so apparent you are is not that difficult, is it? Learn from it.

There's no need to be mean.

There's no need for you to be torpid, but there you go.

Oh, if you're being pedantic, what about the acute accent on the first e?

As with the cedille, I know that accents are not easily accessible on certain keyboard layouts. Falls under the same heading.

Here's the scenario. You're "accidentally" chryogenically frozen for 250 years. You are then revived by futuristic scientists. The world has gone through WWIII and WWIIII. The world now only has 15 countries, each being equally powerful. We have bases on the moon and on mars. 150 years after you were frozen, the world was put under one ruler for 50 years, until civil war broke the world apart again. We have laser guns. :D The country your currently in right now is a police state, and the police are searching for you, trying to kill you, as it turns out you are a relative of one of the other countries rulers. A rogue scientist defrosted you. He wants you to help him take down the government. Apparently, you are the strongest person on earth, as humans have become expotentially weaker over the last 250 years, to the point where you are as powerful as a titan compared to them. What do you do? Just an interesting little scenario to see what people will do.
Fight the machine. That's a cool idea for a novel. Mind if I use it?

Was there a punctuation mark after Mars in the original? There was. Therefore, even under British rules, he was right to include it.

Hush, you. Can't expect him to notice that little detail when he's dug himself such a nice little hole, now, can you?

Fight the machine. That's a cool idea for a novel. Mind if I use it?
My word, a comment on the OP? Don't you know what this thread is about? :p

Oh, if you're being pedantic, what about the acute accent on the first e?
French grammar is my personal weakness. I never remember gender. I should however, have remembered the elision.

CC, I do. Did you read the quote? Once again:

Was there a punctuation mark after Mars in the original? There was. Therefore, even under British rules, he was right to include it.

Yes, so my entire argument is corrupted. *looks completely shocked and stupid*. This does not prevent his use of commas in the other examples from being wrong in British English though.

You don't seem to understand your own source.

Neither do you. The article says that neither of your are completely right, if you read closely.

Neither do you. The article says that neither of your are completely right, if you read closely.

What gives you the right to jump into my flawed argument?

What gives you the right to jump into my flawed argument?

Public forum?

As with the cedille, I know that accents are not easily accessible on certain keyboard layouts. Falls under the same heading.
Ah, but you forgot to mention it...

CC, fine. However, your use of the word 'the' instead of 'an' is incorrect in Irish (about as relevant to British English as British English is to international English for this purpose)*, and your non-use of a capital in 'looks' is wrong in any version of English. Also, while formal English may frown on that usage, it is acceptable in England - I have seen English grammar books use that format. And finally, the Chicago Manual of Style says:
"Rules and regulations such as these, in the nature of the case, cannot be endowed with the fixity of rock-ribbed law. They are meant for the average case, and must be applied with a certain degree of elasticity."

* This is me being facetious, which does NOT mean joking.

Public forum?
Touché :p

Ah, but you forgot to mention it...

This is where I blame CET.

Public forum?

Yep! This is a public forum, which means anyone can jump on anyone else....if you don't like it don't reply.

Actually, I'm no longer sure. Even though there was a full stop in the original "mars.", I believe that there should have been one after the speech mark, to finish the sentence. (Obviously only in British English)

Actually, I'm no longer sure. Even though there was a full stop in the original "mars.", I believe that there should have been one after the speech mark, to finish the sentence. (Obviously only in British English)

You end quotes in periods if they are the end of the sentance.

Ie.
Joe said, "I like cake."

You end quotes in periods if they are the end of the sentance.

Ie.
Joe said, "I like cake."

Yes, "if the quoted item is a complete sentence that ends where the main sentence ends", according to 'the link' (http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pun1.htm).

IV. Do they teach you nothing at schools these days?

Meh, on clocks its usually written IIII and its usually accepted as an alternative elsewhere

Meh, on clocks its usually written IIII and its usually accepted as an alternative elsewhere
Not on my clock. I have no idea why they would write it as IIII on a clock, considering that by the time they get to IIIIIIIIIIII, it's become rather impractical.

Meh, on clocks its usually written IIII and its usually accepted as an alternative elsewhere

Well, now we know what started WWIV/IIII. :)

So were weaker physically, yet we seem to spend alot of time in Space?

yeah, would make sense, you don't need to be muscular in sub 10N/kg gravity

Not on my clock. I have no idea why they would write it as IIII on a clock, considering that by the time they get to IIIIIIIIIIII, it's become rather impractical.

I know that that sentence's tenses are less than brilliant.

Meh, on clocks its usually written IIII

I don't know who made the clocks you have, but I bet they were stupid.

Actually, I'm no longer sure. Even though there was a full stop in the original "mars.", I believe that there should have been one after the speech mark, to finish the sentence. (Obviously only in British English)
Nope, there's only one punctuation mark, even in British. For example, you don't go:
John said, "I like jam, don't I?".

As for the IIII controversy, books have said that 'IIII' is an acceptable alternative for 'IV' (and VIIII for IX), but I have never seen it used except in those books...

Nope, there's only one punctuation mark, even in British. For example, you don't go:
John said, "I like jam, don't I?".

As for the IIII controversy, books have said that 'IIII' is an acceptable alternative for 'IV' (and VIIII for IX), but I have never seen it used except in those books...

Problem is the visual breakdown which exists. Its easier to do it in IV and IX format and it doesn't confuse anyone. Even III is simple, but IIII is annoying to write.

I unreservedly apologise for being a moron and for opinining on a subject about which I know absolutely nothing.

I unreservedly apologise for being a moron and for opinining on a subject about which I know absolutely nothing.
Why?
This is quite unusual, someone admitting they were wrong. I'm now starting to worry...

Why?
This is quite unusual, someone admitting they were wrong. I'm now starting to worry...
I've realised that even if I were right, which I am not, continuing this argument would be detrimental to my non-existent reputation.

I've realised that even if I were right, which I am not, continuing this argument would be detrimental to my non-existent reputation.
Don't feel bad about being attacked from all sides. It's nothing personal, it's just NationStates General. :)

I've realised that even if I were right, which I am not, continuing this argument would be detrimental to my non-existent reputation.

*hug* ^-^

Now back to the topic! What would you do? :D

Don't feel bad about being attacked from all sides. It's nothing personal, it's just NationStates General. :)
I don't feel bad. What can I say, I'm just a dreamer. ;)

I've realised that even if I were right, which I am not, continuing this argument would be detrimental to my non-existent reputation.
I do believe you may be almost unique here... You have now gone down in my head as a smart person, my opinion of you is good and high. What made you change your mind about being right?

I do believe you may be almost unique here... You have now gone down in my head as a smart person, my opinion of you is good and high. What made you change your mind about being right?

The fact that Fass's argument held water, whereas mine did not.

The fact that Fass's argument held water, whereas mine did not.
Thought you might have had a revelation or found something new. Congratulations on the astounding maturity. I'd like to say I had it... I try.

No.
Your comment doesn't count. You were Ritlina. :p

Will this thread ever get back on track or has grammar and spelling killed it?

What was it about again?

Well now we know what started WW3 and 4 (freakin grammer nazis tried to take over), we can get back to the original subject:

First thing I would do is hit the show circuit to make a butload of cash, and let everyone else worry about world politics.

Well, now that we know what started WW3 and WW4 (freakin' grammer Nazis tried to take over), we can get back to the original subject: First thing I would do is hit the show circuit to make a buttload of cash, and let everyone else worry about world politics.
*lurks*

:upyours: *lurks*

:upyours:
Alternatively, I've made a number of errors in todays posts. Happy hunting.

Alternatively, I've made a number of errors in todays posts. Happy hunting.

Pass. I'm not that bored yet.

I would go to my distant relatives home, murder him, sieze control of his wmd's destroy most of the earths population except for a select few who I choose to repopulate the earth. Then I would set up a religion that frowns upon large familes in an effort to slow down the future overpopulation problem.

As with the cedille, I know that accents are not easily accessible on certain keyboard layouts. Falls under the same heading.

Do (ctrl+alt+vowel) or (alt gr + vowel) work on your keyboard for acute accents?

Do (ctrl+alt+vowel) or (alt gr + vowel) work on your keyboard for acute accents?

No. Swedish keyboards have a key for the acute and grave accent. Accent key or shift + accent key + vowel = accented vowel.

No. Swedish keyboards have a key for the acute and grave accent. Accent key or shift + accent key + vowel = accented vowel.
I should get one of those :), or a French one.

Grr, I wasted so much time yesterday. :mad:

Fight the machine. That's a cool idea for a novel. Mind if I use it?
Ha. It's probably been used like, 500 times already. It's not really a unique idea. I thought it up, but then I realized after reading some sci-fi books and watching some sci-fi movies that I wasn't the first one to think it up.

Back on topic people. Seriously, this is like, a complete and total thread-jack.

Back on topic people. Seriously, this is like, a complete and total thread-jack.
So? That's how this place works.

Yeah, well, blame me.

So? That's how this place works.
Yeaaaaah, but when you have an idea as cool as this, do you really have to thread jack it?

Yeaaaaah, but when you have an idea as cool as this, do you really have to thread jack it?
It's part of the Terms of Service. We're legally obliged to spam any serious thread that arises in this forum with any ridiculous argument we can think of. Yes, indeed.

Sarah Connor?

(Apologies if two dozen people have already said this, I just didn't want to read through 11 pages of replies. I know, it's slack.)

You're "accidentally" chryogenically frozen for 250 years. You are then revived by futuristic scientists.
First off, I'd be pissed that I was "accidentally" frozen for 250 years. Everyone I knew would now be dead. The languages I know would have probably changed due to "evolution", anyhow, the point is I would expierence major shock, both physical and cultural. My clothes, if I had any on, would be out of style.
We have laser guns.
That will prove to be a problem.
The country your currently in right now is a police state, and the police are searching for you, trying to kill you, as it turns out you are a relative of one of the other countries rulers.
So, they're doing seek-and-destroy sweeps with laser guns? Do they have robots that fly around and attempt to kill me with laser guns? It really doesn't matter, I'm obviously screwed. Why don't even know why they want to kill me, wait, why haven't they killed me? I've been frozen for 250 years. They could have just nailed me with a freaking laser gun while I was sleeping. But, they didn't.
A rogue scientist defrosted you. He wants you to help him take down the government.
Why do I want to take down the government?
First things first, I'd ask this fellow who has been paying the bills for me freezing for 250 years. I'd like to know, so I could kill them.
After that, I'd ask him why the government want to kill me. He's probably one of those sick puppies, like that one Russian who hunts people in "The Most Dangerous Game". Lets me go, tips the police off, and makes a buttload of cash. He would have a betting ring, with people betting on how long I survive. Sick freak.
Apparently, you are the strongest person on earth, as humans have become expotentially weaker over the last 250 years, to the point where you are as powerful as a titan compared to them.
That doesn't help with laser guns. Unless, the laser guns shoot ultraviolet rays. In that case, I could lather on some crazy strong sun lotion, and watch as my body gets as black as the nigt. Rawr.
What do you do? Just an interesting little scenario to see what people will do.
Oh, I would be angry. I would kill everyone I possibly could. Steal my actual life like that, only to be revived when the Earth is choking on pollution, when my culture is long gone, my family dead; you must get the picture. Then, the government would make a news film on me, because between the slaughters I'd probably pick up a book. Which is against the law. I would only then escape because the film needs someone to die, as it has already been a whole eleven minutes its been running, and the audiences' attention spans have already been strained. They'd shoot some random guy with grainy film, I'd escape, and discover there is a whole sub-culture of super stong, tanned, and utterly angry. We'd then unify. After memorizing every religious text that we can recal, we'd overthrow every government and institute a global theocracy.

Then, await the end-times.

EDIT: Love it. I answer the OP and the thread dies of cardiac arrest. Please, no-one bump this. Its got a DNR band. :p