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I am now considered 100% disabled by The Veteran's Administration!

Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 19:36
Just today I got my award letter from the Veterna's Administration, informing me that they have granted my request for re-evaluation based on having prostate cancer as a result of exposure to Agent Orange while in Vietnam. They increased my percent disability from 40% to 100%. This means that I will be compensated at the maximum allowable for this percentage, which works out to be over $2,000 per month.

While this is good financial news, all things considered, I'd rather have my prostate back. Sigh. Sometimes I feel as though I'm giving up parts of my body for cash, kinda like the "Cash For Colons" issue on NationStates. Heh!

Just thought I'd share, particularly with taxpaying Americans. Thought you might like to know one of the less expensive places where your tax dollars are going. :)
Bitchkitten
13-04-2006, 19:38
Good for you, Eut.
Glad you have a little financial security.
Ifreann
13-04-2006, 19:39
Now you're rich can we have some money? And when I say we, I mean I.
[NS]Liasia
13-04-2006, 19:41
$2000 per month? :eek:
Fass
13-04-2006, 19:43
Just today I got my award letter from the Veterna's Administration, informing me that they have granted my request for re-evaluation based on having prostate cancer as a result of exposure to Agent Orange while in Vietnam.

You were able to prove a connection and that you would not have gotten the cancer had it not been for the exposure?
Bitchkitten
13-04-2006, 19:44
I believe he was in the military for quite sometime. Those years add up.
AB Again
13-04-2006, 19:44
Mentally we always knew that! :p

(Sorry about the cancer though, that sucks.)
I V Stalin
13-04-2006, 19:46
Way to go, you old cripple, you! :p I'm kidding. Cool. If you can get more money, that has to be a good thing.
[NS]Liasia
13-04-2006, 19:50
100% disabled- isnt that like.... dead?
DrunkenDove
13-04-2006, 19:50
I am now considered 100% disabled by The Veteran's Administration!

You must be the first person ever to be happy at the news that you're 100% disabled.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 19:50
Now you're rich can we have some money? And when I say we, I mean I.
Heh! Sure! Just send a beautiful young woman to pick it up! :D
Ilie
13-04-2006, 19:51
Well, they SHOULD be paying for it since they exposed you to that crap in the first place. I say they owe you a new robot body.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 19:55
You were able to prove a connection and that you would not have gotten the cancer had it not been for the exposure?
If you were "boots on the ground" in Vietnam during a certain time period, and later in life contracted prostate cancer, the VA must, by law, conclude that it was due to Agent Orange. As I recall from the debate over this issue, medical science was unable to determine if the cancer was caused by Agent Orange or not, so the Disabled American Veterans ( among other veterans' groups ) lobbied for a law that would err on the side of granting the disability status.

I was actually operating in areas extensively sprayed with Agent Orange, so it's relatively likely the cancer was in fact, caused by the chemical, although there is still no way of knowing for sure.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 19:57
Well, they SHOULD be paying for it since they exposed you to that crap in the first place. I say they owe you a new robot body.
Heh! Thanks for the kind thought, but no thanks. I much prefer one with all the flesh intact. :D
Ivia
13-04-2006, 19:57
Well, they SHOULD be paying for it since they exposed you to that crap in the first place. I say they owe you a new robot body.
Why, do you have a thing for robots? ;)

Congrats, btw, Eut. About time they did the right thing.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 19:58
You must be the first person ever to be happy at the news that you're 100% disabled.
Well, it's not like I'm going to be all better if I'm UNhappy, now is it! :p
Dempublicents1
13-04-2006, 19:58
Well, it's good that you're getting compensation for it. Maybe, one of these days, we'll be able to grow you a new prostate. =)

Unfortunately, from what I've heard from VA administrators, they wouldn't pay for it even if we could. =(
Ifreann
13-04-2006, 19:59
Heh! Sure! Just send a beautiful young woman to pick it up! :D

Hmmm, I'll need some money first, to get the beautiful girl, and to get her a plane ticket.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:01
Liasia']$2000 per month? :eek:
Yes, and that's just from the VA. I'm currently working on something called "concurrent reciept," which means that the "offset" between what the Department Of Defense sends me and what the VA sends me will be elminiated. If that happens ( big if! ), I would be getting amost $3,500 per month tax free. Question is, should I bargain with God and tell her/him I'll be a "good boy" from now on should I be able to get this?

Nahhh! The cost would be too high! :D
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:02
Hmmm, I'll need some money first, to get the beautiful girl, and to get her a plane ticket.
Uh huh. You've obviously mistaken me for someone who was born yesterday! Thank you! :D
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:03
Well, it's good that you're getting compensation for it. Maybe, one of these days, we'll be able to grow you a new prostate. =)

Unfortunately, from what I've heard from VA administrators, they wouldn't pay for it even if we could. =(
Probably not, but just in case, I'll save up for it, m'k? :D
Pyschotika
13-04-2006, 20:04
:-P, hell I'd be living happy if I had Prostate Cancer AND an extra $24,000 a year!

Anyways, congratz on the money...

But do well with fighting the Cancer :-).

(Sorry if this makes you feel old)

Heh...my Grandpa was a pilot in Vietnam.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:04
Good for you, Eut.
Glad you have a little financial security.
Thanks, hon. :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
Kyronea
13-04-2006, 20:05
Just today I got my award letter from the Veterna's Administration, informing me that they have granted my request for re-evaluation based on having prostate cancer as a result of exposure to Agent Orange while in Vietnam. They increased my percent disability from 40% to 100%. This means that I will be compensated at the maximum allowable for this percentage, which works out to be over $2,000 per month.

While this is good financial news, all things considered, I'd rather have my prostate back. Sigh. Sometimes I feel as though I'm giving up parts of my body for cash, kinda like the "Cash For Colons" issue on NationStates. Heh!

Just thought I'd share, particularly with taxpaying Americans. Thought you might like to know one of the less expensive places where your tax dollars are going. :)
!

Gimmie back mah tax money! >__O;

...

Nah, just kidding. In all seriousness, congrats on improving your financial situation, in the odd way you did it. =/
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:05
:-P, hell I'd be living happy if I had Prostate Cancer AND an extra $24,000 a year!

Anyways, congratz on the money...

But do well with fighting the Cancer :-).

(Sorry if this makes you feel old)

Heh...my Grandpa was a pilot in Vietnam.
Son, ain't nuffin' can make me "feel old" if'n ah don' wants-ta! :D

What did he fly? Do you know?
Ruloah
13-04-2006, 20:06
Glad to have some of my tax money going to you, Eut.

But it feels weird to congratulate you on being 100% disabled.

Do you get a disabled placard for your car?

(my dad was in the Korean War[USAF, radio operator], and my daughter just got out of the Army [Military Intelligence])
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:08
Mentally we always knew that! :p

(Sorry about the cancer though, that sucks.)
Heh! Twit! [ trout-slap ] :D

Thanks. I just hope they got it all. We'll see what my next appointment yields, this coming May 5th. [ gets all nervous 'n shit ] :D
Pyschotika
13-04-2006, 20:10
Son, ain't nuffin' can make me "feel old" if'n ah don' wants-ta! :D

What did he fly? Do you know?

I am not really sure. I'd have to ask him.

Oh and since you were an Officer and are a War Veteran...does that mean you have information you can't share with us if we asked the correct questions? :(...I hate that...my dad was in the Navy before the Gulf War ( in which he broke his knee and got a free pass out after 6 months of doing nothing but laying around with a hurt and fucked up leg...which is fine now-uh-days ) and he still has stuff he can't tell me...Mostly the Mechanics of the Turrets and such.
Ashmoria
13-04-2006, 20:11
:-P, hell I'd be living happy if I had Prostate Cancer AND an extra $24,000 a year!

Anyways, congratz on the money...

But do well with fighting the Cancer :-).

(Sorry if this makes you feel old)

Heh...my Grandpa was a pilot in Vietnam.
ohmygod i feel old!

my DAD was a disabled vet from world war 2!

congrats on getting what due you, eut
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:11
Liasia']100% disabled- isnt that like.... dead?
Not at all. To be 100% disabled, you have to meet a lot of criteria about quite a number of things, one of which is significant disruption to one or more primary life functions. And like I told Fass, Congress has mandated that if you were "boots on the ground" in Vietnam during a certain time frame, and later in life contract prostate cancer ( among several other serious aliments ), the VA must assume that Agent Orange was at least a contributing factor.

So, as a Vietnam veteran with prostate cancer, I'm virtually automatically considered 100% disabled.
Potarius
13-04-2006, 20:12
Good going, man. I think it's nice that you're getting compensation for being exposed to that shit, you know?

*Don't let it get to you if "Tangled Up In Blue" comes here and insults you for getting government compensation.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:13
ohmygod i feel old!

my DAD was a disabled vet from world war 2!

congrats on getting what due you, eut
Thanks, hon.

BTW ... if you're "old," what the hell am I ... Legs? :D
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:14
!

Gimmie back mah tax money! >__O;

...

Nah, just kidding. In all seriousness, congrats on improving your financial situation, in the odd way you did it. =/
Come get it! Mwahahahaha! :D

Thanks. I intend to use some of the "extra" money to help pay for my Ph.D., and the rest to pay off bills and/or put into my grandchildren's trust fund. :)

EDIT: And ... I just might use some of it to pay for a few lil trips to places like Germany, GB and Canada. Depends on how things work out. :)
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:17
Good going, man. I think it's nice that you're getting compensation for being exposed to that shit, you know?

*Don't let it get to you if "Tangled Up In Blue" comes here and insults you for getting government compensation.
Heh! If I'm not use to being castigated for various and sundry things on here by now, I never will be! :D
Ashmoria
13-04-2006, 20:18
Thanks, hon.

BTW ... if you're "old," what the hell am I ... Legs? :D
dunno but you cant be old, youre younger than my oldest brother. he'll be 65 in december. how does THAT happen?
Potarius
13-04-2006, 20:19
Come get it! Mwahahahaha! :D

Thanks. I intend to use some of the "extra" money to help pay for my Ph.D., and the rest to pay off bills and/or put into my grandchildren's trust fund. :)

EDIT: And ... I just might use some of it to pay for a few lil trips to places like Germany, GB and Canada. Depends on how things work out. :)

Go to Japan. You'll most likely be a head taller than 80% of the people there. :p
Fass
13-04-2006, 20:20
If you were "boots on the ground" in Vietnam during a certain time period, and later in life contracted prostate cancer, the VA must, by law, conclude that it was due to Agent Orange. As I recall from the debate over this issue, medical science was unable to determine if the cancer was caused by Agent Orange or not, so the Disabled American Veterans ( among other veterans' groups ) lobbied for a law that would err on the side of granting the disability status.

I was actually operating in areas extensively sprayed with Agent Orange, so it's relatively likely the cancer was in fact, caused by the chemical, although there is still no way of knowing for sure.

I guess there was a reason it struck me like more something that was lobbied through, than something that was medically supported, as the connection, evidence-wise, is tenuous, at best, seeing as prostate cancer in your age isn't all that uncommon.

Oh, well, congrats on the socialism and suckling at its teat.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:22
Glad to have some of my tax money going to you, Eut.

But it feels weird to congratulate you on being 100% disabled.

Do you get a disabled placard for your car?

(my dad was in the Korean War[USAF, radio operator], and my daughter just got out of the Army [Military Intelligence])
Way kewl! Tell them both "Welcome Home!" for me. :)

North Carolina offers a "Disabled Veteran" license plate for all who are 100% disabled, so I'll probably get that for the car I'm going to buy as soon as I get the "extra" money. :)

If you think it feels weird to congratulate me for my new VA disabled rating, think about how ambivalent I feel about being listed as 100% disabled! :eek:

And I'm glad some small percentage of your tax money is going to me too! :D

J/K ... sorta. :D
[NS]Liasia
13-04-2006, 20:22
So, as a Vietnam veteran with prostate cancer, I'm virtually automatically considered 100% disabled.

Huh, nice one i guess.
Ashmoria
13-04-2006, 20:26
Come get it! Mwahahahaha! :D

Thanks. I intend to use some of the "extra" money to help pay for my Ph.D., and the rest to pay off bills and/or put into my grandchildren's trust fund. :)

EDIT: And ... I just might use some of it to pay for a few lil trips to places like Germany, GB and Canada. Depends on how things work out. :)
if you get the full package, thats good money for a single man. you could have a pretty good time with it.

have you been accepted to a phd program yet?
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:29
I guess there was a reason it struck me like more something that was lobbied through, than something that was medically supported, as the connection, evidence-wise, is tenuous, at best, seeing as prostate cancer in your age isn't all that uncommon.

Oh, well, congrats on the socialism and suckling at its teat.
ROFLMAO! Never miss a chance, DO ya! Heh! :p

Yes, the connection is somewhat tenuous, but there is considerable medical evidence that it is there. And I was in Vietnam for two years, continuously, and operated out of areas where Agent Orange was used extensively. So the connection is more likely there for me than for many. [ he says, trying to salve his conscience ] :)
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:31
if you get the full package, thats good money for a single man. you could have a pretty good time with it.

have you been accepted to a phd program yet?
TELL me about it! Ohhh, I plan to have m'self a bit'o fun fo sho! :D

No, but I've talked extensively with several people in the administration of one college in particular, and all of them said I shouldn't have any problem. Sounds like they could use the money, eh? ;)
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:33
Liasia']Huh, nice one i guess.
In a way, yes, but I'd still rather have my prostate back. It's not quite as major as losing a limb or two, but still ... ! :(
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:34
Go to Japan. You'll most likely be a head taller than 80% of the people there. :p
Been there. Done that. Japan isn't my thang. Plus, at 6'2", I'm already taller than a considerable number of people here in America. :)
[NS]Liasia
13-04-2006, 20:35
In a way, yes, but I'd still rather have my prostate back. It's not quite as major as losing a limb or two, but still ... ! :(

Considering the number of people with worse injuries who get nothing because they didn't fight in vietnam, i reckon you are doing pretty well if you get $3500 dollars a month. My dad only earns £1600 now and he's actively serving.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:36
dunno but you cant be old, youre younger than my oldest brother. he'll be 65 in december. how does THAT happen?
Uh ... one of your parents had a previous marriage? There was a long gap between kids? Hmm. I give up! :D
Potarius
13-04-2006, 20:36
Been there. Done that. Japan isn't my thang. Plus, at 6'2", I'm already taller than a considerable number of people here in America. :)

Well, I can see that... Japan's one of those places that isn't good for just anyone, especially if they're over 6'. :p

Hong Kong. Now that's a place everyone should visit.
ConscribedComradeship
13-04-2006, 20:37
Liasia']Considering the number of people with worse injuries who get nothing because they didn't fight in vietnam, i reckon you are doing pretty well if you get $3500 dollars a month. My dad only earns £1600 now and he's actively serving.

That doesn't make money better than a prostate though does it?
Sdaeriji
13-04-2006, 20:37
I guess there was a reason it struck me like more something that was lobbied through, than something that was medically supported, as the connection, evidence-wise, is tenuous, at best, seeing as prostate cancer in your age isn't all that uncommon.

Oh, well, congrats on the socialism and suckling at its teat.

Its our government's way of preventing many, many lawsuits.
[NS]Liasia
13-04-2006, 20:38
That doesn't make money better than a prostate though does it?

True. true.
IL Ruffino
13-04-2006, 20:38
Liasia']100% disabled- isnt that like.... dead?
He's old enough :eek:
Fass
13-04-2006, 20:39
Its our government's way of preventing many, many lawsuits.

A proper justice system would have done them better.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:41
I am not really sure. I'd have to ask him.

Oh and since you were an Officer and are a War Veteran...does that mean you have information you can't share with us if we asked the correct questions? :(...I hate that...my dad was in the Navy before the Gulf War ( in which he broke his knee and got a free pass out after 6 months of doing nothing but laying around with a hurt and fucked up leg...which is fine now-uh-days ) and he still has stuff he can't tell me...Mostly the Mechanics of the Turrets and such.
Sadly, all officers and some enlisted who have been privy to classified information are forevermore subject to The Official Secrets Act, which means no can talkie 'bout classified shyte. Fortunately, in my case that doesn't apply to things I did while in Vietnam proper. It still does to some other operations in which I was involved at other locations.

So if you have any questions, fire away. It's unlikely you'll have enough information to even ask relevant questions about those "other operations." :)
Sdaeriji
13-04-2006, 20:42
A proper justice system would have done them better.

A proper justice system would have. But you won't see me calling the US justice system "proper".
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:42
He's old enough :eek:
Shyte! [ trout-slap ] :D
Ashmoria
13-04-2006, 20:42
Uh ... one of your parents had a previous marriage? There was a long gap between kids? Hmm. I give up! :D
nooooo
my dad was a disabled vet. my oldest brother was born just before pearl harbor. dad spent a couple years in the hospital so the second son was born 4 years later.... his health was never great so #3 was 4 years after that... then things picked up and the last 4 were on a more regular schedule.

im the last so my oldest brother is 16 years older than i am.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:43
That doesn't make money better than a prostate though does it?
Huh? I could have made money with my prostate??? :eek:

NOW you tell me! :headbang:

LOL!
Fass
13-04-2006, 20:44
A proper justice system would have. But you won't see me calling the US justice system "proper".

Perish the thought should I.
Fass
13-04-2006, 20:46
Huh? I could have made money with my prostate??? :eek:

NOW you tell me! :headbang:

I can just imagine you as a street hustler, offering your prostate to be stimulated for money.
IL Ruffino
13-04-2006, 20:46
Shyte! [ trout-slap ] :D
mmmm trout!
http://www.exevalleyfishery.co.uk/smoked_trout_plate.jpg
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:47
Well, I can see that... Japan's one of those places that isn't good for just anyone, especially if they're over 6'. :p

Hong Kong. Now that's a place everyone should visit.
Been there too. Loved it! :)

Actually, there aren't too many places, especially in SE Asia that I haven't visited or operated in. Only a few places I would still like to see: Australia, New Zealand, Russia ( especially Siberia ), Antarctica. That's about it.
IL Ruffino
13-04-2006, 20:51
Been there too. Loved it! :)

Actually, there aren't too many places, especially in SE Asia that I haven't visited or operated in. Only a few places I would still like to see: Australia, New Zealand, Russia ( especially Siberia ), Antactica. That's about it.
Now.. exactly what did you do? And when was this? My dad was over in that area when he was younger, serving. He's 54 or something..
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:52
Liasia']Considering the number of people with worse injuries who get nothing because they didn't fight in vietnam, i reckon you are doing pretty well if you get $3500 dollars a month. My dad only earns £1600 now and he's actively serving.
Not sure what that works out to in US$, but doesn't sound like an awful lot. I don't get $3,500 a month yet, and may never get it. In order to eliminate the offset between what the VA pays me and what DOD pays me, I have to prove that the eleven months I had remaining until qualified for 20 years of active duty should have been waived. Not an easy thing to do. It gets really complicated, but I'm working on it. :)
[NS]Liasia
13-04-2006, 20:52
Not sure what that works out to in US$, but doesn't sound like an awful lot. I don't get $3,500 a month yet, and may never get it. In order to eliminate the offset between what the VA pays me and what DOD pays me, I have to prove that the eleven months I had remaining until qualified for 20 years of active duty should have been waived. Not an easy thing to do. It gets really complicated, but I'm working on it. :)

What rank were ya? Dad's a seargent in the REME, so he's not very high up. Gets a nice pension tho.
CSW
13-04-2006, 20:54
Not sure what that works out to in US$, but doesn't sound like an awful lot. I don't get $3,500 a month yet, and may never get it. In order to eliminate the offset between what the VA pays me and what DOD pays me, I have to prove that the eleven months I had remaining until qualified for 20 years of active duty should have been waived. Not an easy thing to do. It gets really complicated, but I'm working on it. :)
What, because of your accident with the parajumping they won't give you a full pension or somewhat?
ConscribedComradeship
13-04-2006, 20:54
Huh? I could have made money with my prostate??? :eek:

NOW you tell me! :headbang:

LOL!

You did understand yes :confused:?
Dempublicents1
13-04-2006, 20:54
Not sure what that works out to in US$, but doesn't sound like an awful lot. I don't get $3,500 a month yet, and may never get it. In order to eliminate the offset between what the VA pays me and what DOD pays me, I have to prove that the eleven months I had remaining until qualified for 20 years of active duty should have been waived. Not an easy thing to do. It gets really complicated, but I'm working on it. :)

IIRC, a pound is about 2 dollars, so 1600 pounds would be roughly $3200. Yeah, not much.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:55
Now.. exactly what did you do? And when was this? My dad was over in that area when he was younger, serving. He's 54 or something..
I was in Vietnam from SEP67 - SEP69 inclusive. During my first 15 months, I was Commander of a Counterinsurgency Team operating primarily in III Corps, Central Highlands. For the last nine months I was a Company Commander with the 173rd Airborne Brigade, operating in the North of III Corps and parts of II Corps. Need more??
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:57
IIRC, a pound is about 2 dollars, so 1600 pounds would be roughly $3200. Yeah, not much.
Dang. I'm sorry. IMHO, most soldiers don't make nearly enough, but that's just me, I suppose. Do you guys get rent-free housing, free medical, that sort of thing?
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:58
You did understand yes :confused:?
Heh! Yes. I was just being a bit facetious because of the way you worded it. :D
Lunatic Goofballs
13-04-2006, 20:59
Congratulations on being officially recognized as 'totally wrecked.' :)
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 20:59
What, because of your accident with the parajumping they won't give you a full pension or somewhat?
Nope. I was getting about $1,400/month direct pension from the Department of Defense, and ( after "offset" ) about $145/month from VA, since they rated me at only 40% disabled.
[NS]Liasia
13-04-2006, 21:00
Dang. I'm sorry. IMHO, most soldiers don't make nearly enough, but that's just me, I suppose. Do you guys get rent-free housing, free medical, that sort of thing?

Nope. Mebbe it goes further over here? We live in a £160,000 house, free medical on the NHS. 3 kids (me one of them).
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 21:02
Liasia']What rank were ya? Dad's a seargent in the REME, so he's not very high up. Gets a nice pension tho.
I got promoted from Private E-nothing ( :D ) to 2nd LT in less than a year because I went directly into OCS after Basic and AIT ( Advanced Individual Training ), to 1st LT in one year because I did a good job, and then to CPT in one year because I did an even better job. And that's right where I stayed, prmarily because I've never been a very good "kiss-up," and because I tend to use "unconventional" methods to accomplish my missions. ;)
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 21:03
Liasia']Nope. Mebbe it goes further over here? We live in a £160,000 house, free medical on the NHS. 3 kids (me one of them).
Good! I would have hated to fret about you and your family. Military families are da BOMB! :)
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 21:05
Congratulations on being officially recognized as 'totally wrecked.' :)
Oh thank you, Great Mudball In the Sky! You are truly munificent in your magnificence! May your great, mud-covered visage forever shine upon us mere mortals! :D
Dempublicents1
13-04-2006, 21:06
Dang. I'm sorry. IMHO, most soldiers don't make nearly enough, but that's just me, I suppose. Do you guys get rent-free housing, free medical, that sort of thing?

Hehe, beats me what they get, I'm not a soldier.

I do know a US soldier who just got finally pushed into a desk job after years of them trying. Apparently, they really wanted him out of combat because there was no way they were going to want to pay his death benefits if something happened to him.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 21:08
nooooo
my dad was a disabled vet. my oldest brother was born just before pearl harbor. dad spent a couple years in the hospital so the second son was born 4 years later.... his health was never great so #3 was 4 years after that... then things picked up and the last 4 were on a more regular schedule.

im the last so my oldest brother is 16 years older than i am.
Wow! Talk about spreading them out! Heh!
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 21:09
I can just imagine you as a street hustler, offering your prostate to be stimulated for money.
ROFLMFAO! Strange, I can't imagine that at ALL! :p
Lunatic Goofballs
13-04-2006, 21:10
Oh thank you, Great Mudball In the Sky! You are truly munificent in your magnificence! May your great, mud-covered visage forever shine upon us mere mortals! :D

Pity they didn't ask me. I knew you were completely screwed up quite some time ago. :)
The Lone Alliance
13-04-2006, 21:18
So for your prostate you got disability. Well I've heard that basicly anything can cause prostate cancer. But the Agent Orange didn't help it. So Good for you for getting what you should.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 21:19
Hehe, beats me what they get, I'm not a soldier.

I do know a US soldier who just got finally pushed into a desk job after years of them trying. Apparently, they really wanted him out of combat because there was no way they were going to want to pay his death benefits if something happened to him.
That's strange. The beneficiaries of military personnel can get up to $400,000 of life insurance now, if the individual is willing to pay a bit for the last $150,000, but that's not even pocket change for the military. Hmm. :confused:
Fass
13-04-2006, 21:20
ROFLMFAO! Strange, I can't imagine that at ALL! :p

That has always been your problem, this lack of imagination.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 21:21
Pity they didn't ask me. I knew you were completely screwed up quite some time ago. :)
ROFLMFAO! Yet another compliment from The Great Mudball in the Sky! What have I done to deserve such praise, oh Munificent One, that I may repeat it? :D
Haken Rider
13-04-2006, 21:23
So know you're rich, the possibilty of simply buying your granddaughters has been eliminated? You're giving me a hard time here, mate.
Dempublicents1
13-04-2006, 21:25
That's strange. The beneficiaries of military personnel can get up to $400,000 of life insurance now, if the individual is willing to pay a bit for the last $150,000, but that's not even pocket change for the military. Hmm. :confused:

The way I understand it (and maybe this is something specific to special forces), the death benefit goes up for every single combat the soldier is sent into. Considering that he has been sent at least once into every combat since he joined the military (almost 20 years ago), it's been adding up. From what I understand, if he were to die in combat, the military would have been paying over $1 million to his family.
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 21:26
So for your prostate you got disability. Well I've heard that basicly anything can cause prostate cancer. But the Agent Orange didn't help it. So Good for you for getting what you should.
Thanks. I can't deny it will be most appreciated, but I'd still rather have my prostate back! :p
Ivia
13-04-2006, 21:27
The way I understand it (and maybe this is something specific to special forces), the death benefit goes up for every single combat the soldier is sent into. Considering that he has been sent at least once into every combat since he joined the military (almost 20 years ago), it's been adding up. From what I understand, if he were to die in combat, the military would have been paying over $1 million to his family.
*Whistles* That's a fair bit to be paying out. Can definitely see why they wouldn't want to pay that out. o.o;
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 21:28
So know you're rich, the possibilty of simply buying your granddaughters has been eliminated? You're giving me a hard time here, mate.
Ut oh! NOW you've done it! Here:
http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/5091/smileytroutsmack23en.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Eutrusca
13-04-2006, 21:29
The way I understand it (and maybe this is something specific to special forces), the death benefit goes up for every single combat the soldier is sent into. Considering that he has been sent at least once into every combat since he joined the military (almost 20 years ago), it's been adding up. From what I understand, if he were to die in combat, the military would have been paying over $1 million to his family.
Never heard of it. Must be some sort of new incentive pay for SF. :confused:
Lunatic Goofballs
13-04-2006, 21:31
ROFLMFAO! Yet another compliment from The Great Mudball in the Sky! What have I done to deserve such praise, oh Munificent One, that I may repeat it? :D

It derives from love. :fluffle:
Haken Rider
13-04-2006, 21:34
Ut oh! NOW you've done it! Here:
http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/5091/smileytroutsmack23en.gif (http://imageshack.us)
*Straps body armour on*

Okay, let it... auw! Whay's this? Trout? That's new. :confused:
Pyschotika
13-04-2006, 22:18
( Referring to a few pages back )

Nah I really don't have any questions, I was for the most part being silly.

If I held any knowledge I'm sure I wouldn't be stupid enough to expose my self that easily either, :-).

Anyways, I'm sure you were involved in some Operations that no light shall ever dawn on or perhaps even after I'm dead it will be released in some Military Channel Special called 'Secret Operations' :-P.

Anyway...

If you are interested in knowing what my Grandpa flew back in the day, I'll ask him next we meet and I'll TG you about it.
Eutrusca
14-04-2006, 00:40
It derives from love. :fluffle:
LOL! Gotta love that unconditional love! :D
Eutrusca
14-04-2006, 00:42
( Referring to a few pages back )

1. Nah I really don't have any questions, I was for the most part being silly.

2. If I held any knowledge I'm sure I wouldn't be stupid enough to expose my self that easily either, :-).

3. Anyways, I'm sure you were involved in some Operations that no light shall ever dawn on or perhaps even after I'm dead it will be released in some Military Channel Special called 'Secret Operations' :-P.

Anyway...

4. If you are interested in knowing what my Grandpa flew back in the day, I'll ask him next we meet and I'll TG you about it.
1. Kewl. :)

2. LOL! I'm not noted for "exposing myself" either! ;)

3. I was, and it won't, and one can only hope! :D

4. I am, and thank you! :)
Infinite Revolution
14-04-2006, 00:43
This means that I will be compensated at the maximum allowable for this percentage, which works out to be over $2,000 per month.

drinks on eutrusca! ;) :p :D
ConscribedComradeship
14-04-2006, 00:43
*Straps body armour on*

Okay, let it... auw! Whay's this? Trout? That's new. :confused:
I think it's from an external site.
The Cat-Tribe
14-04-2006, 00:43
Liasia']$2000 per month? :eek:

Pathetic isn't it. And I am sure Eut had to wade through lots of red tape for that small favor.

Congrats on getting at least some of the support you deserve, Eut.
Marrakech II
14-04-2006, 00:50
Good for you. If my tax dollars have to go to something..... Any way I have an uncle that was exposed to that nasty crap. I was also exposed in the gulf to the toxins from the fires. Yet to see any problems and hope never do.
The Infinite Dunes
14-04-2006, 01:09
I was just thinking... once males reach a certain age aren't they virtually guarenteed to have got prostate cancer?
Grave_n_idle
14-04-2006, 01:09
Just today I got my award letter from the Veterna's Administration, informing me that they have granted my request for re-evaluation based on having prostate cancer as a result of exposure to Agent Orange while in Vietnam. They increased my percent disability from 40% to 100%. This means that I will be compensated at the maximum allowable for this percentage, which works out to be over $2,000 per month.

While this is good financial news, all things considered, I'd rather have my prostate back. Sigh. Sometimes I feel as though I'm giving up parts of my body for cash, kinda like the "Cash For Colons" issue on NationStates. Heh!

Just thought I'd share, particularly with taxpaying Americans. Thought you might like to know one of the less expensive places where your tax dollars are going. :)

Maybe it's just me, but I envision something different when I hear the phrase "100% disabled"... that reads like 'totally incapacitated' to me.
Grave_n_idle
14-04-2006, 01:12
I was just thinking... once males reach a certain age aren't they virtually guarenteed to have got prostate cancer?

1 in 6 American men will have an incidence of prostate cancer, though only 1 in 344 will die of it.

"About 1 man in 6 will be diagnosed with prostate cancer during his lifetime, but only 1 man in 34 will die of this disease. A little over 1.8 million men in the United States are survivors of prostate cancer.

Prostate cancer is a leading cause of cancer death in American men. The American Cancer Society estimates that 27,350 men in the United States will die of prostate cancer during 2006. Prostate cancer accounts for about 9% of cancer-related deaths in men".

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_4_1X_What_are_the_key_statistics_for_prostate_cancer_36.asp?rnav=cri
The Infinite Dunes
14-04-2006, 01:25
1 in 6 American men will have an incidence of prostate cancer, though only 1 in 34 will die of it.Oh, I know that prostate cancer isn't fairly benign. The problem with prostate cancer is if it spreads to places like your lungs or other important places.

I found this site that says 70% of prostate cancer cases are in men over the age of 65.
http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/prostate/prostate.htm
And this other site that says it's the most common cancer in males now.
http://www.icr.ac.uk/everyman/about/prostate.html

How old are you Eut? If you served in Vietnam that'd make you about the same age as Bush and he's about 60. I doubt you'b be any older than that as that would mean your were concieved during WWII.

edit: If I checked you profile I could have saved myself some time. You say you were born on May 27, 1943 on your profile. So you were concieved during WWII. You don't happen to have a French mother do you? c.c
Upper Botswavia
14-04-2006, 01:55
My father had prostate cancer and had his prostate removed. He also (unrelated) lost a leg to peripheral vascular disease and has a prosthesis. If someone were to suggest that he was disabled and needed the government to pay him for these conditions, he would be extremely annoyed with them and explain that he is NOT disabled (and yes, he did serve in the military, he was in the Air Force before Vietnam). He lives on Social Security and an EXTREMELY small pension (he is now a retired minister) and no one would think of paying him because he has no prostate, no matter what the cause.

While I am very sorry that you had to deal with prostate cancer (any cancer is not a good thing!) I have trouble with both the loss of a prostate in a man your age being seen as a 100% disability, and with the government paying you for a condition which 1 in 6 men suffer from whether they were exposed to Agent Orange or not.
The Cat-Tribe
14-04-2006, 02:04
My father had prostate cancer and had his prostate removed. He also (unrelated) lost a leg to peripheral vascular disease and has a prosthesis. If someone were to suggest that he was disabled and needed the government to pay him for these conditions, he would be extremely annoyed with them and explain that he is NOT disabled (and yes, he did serve in the military, he was in the Air Force before Vietnam). He lives on Social Security and an EXTREMELY small pension (he is now a retired minister) and no one would think of paying him because he has no prostate, no matter what the cause.

While I am very sorry that you had to deal with prostate cancer (any cancer is not a good thing!) I have trouble with both the loss of a prostate in a man your age being seen as a 100% disability, and with the government paying you for a condition which 1 in 6 men suffer from whether they were exposed to Agent Orange or not.

Why is it honorable to live on Social Security for your age, but not for disability?

And not all cases of prostate cancer are the same.
Eutrusca
14-04-2006, 08:09
drinks on eutrusca! ;) :p :D
Uh ... maybe! :p
Eutrusca
14-04-2006, 08:12
Pathetic isn't it. And I am sure Eut had to wade through lots of red tape for that small favor.

Congrats on getting at least some of the support you deserve, Eut.
Thanks, CT. Coming from you, that means a lot.

And, yes, I had to wade through more paperwork than even a lawyer can imagine! Heh! Still am, as a matter of fact. My next "project" is convincing the Military Records Review Board that I would have stayed in the military for an extra eleven months to get my 20 years credited service for retirement purposes had I been given the opportunity. Groan! This one's going to be tough, I'm afraid! :(

Thanks again. :)