NationStates Jolt Archive


anti-RPG "force field"

Drunk commies deleted
13-04-2006, 16:27
The US and Israel have developed a system that may make the threat from RPGs to military vehicles a thing of the past.

video of the new system http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=-yVdwvodPo8

a page explainig the new system http://www.defense-update.com/products/t/trophy.htm
Katganistan
13-04-2006, 16:31
What? But I LOVE Role-playing games!



;)
Rocket-propelled grenades, not so much.
The Atlantian islands
13-04-2006, 16:34
The US and Israel have developed a system that may make the threat from RPGs to military vehicles a thing of the past.

video of the new system http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=-yVdwvodPo8

a page explainig the new system http://www.defense-update.com/products/t/trophy.htm

OMG.

THAT.IS.AMAZING.


Whoooooooooooooo.

Gotta love those Israelis.

Thank God.
Kyronea
13-04-2006, 16:39
What? But I LOVE Role-playing games!



;)
Rocket-propelled grenades, not so much.
Damn you for beating me to the punch! *shakes fist*

And this isn't really all that much more than a point defense system of sorts. I approve of it, though there will be ways around it eventually. All part of the one-upmanship that is a tech race.
Cheese penguins
13-04-2006, 17:04
That is a wicked defence system, go Israel!! :D
[NS]Liasia
13-04-2006, 17:41
how is that a 'force field' in any way? it shoots an explosive countermeasure, its not as if this technology is massively advanced. Its some creative use of radar and metal fragments. woo
Drexel Hillsville
13-04-2006, 17:47
Yea, the problem would probably be multiple RPGs being fired...
Drunk commies deleted
13-04-2006, 17:47
Liasia']how is that a 'force field' in any way? it shoots an explosive countermeasure, its not as if this technology is massively advanced. Its some creative use of radar and metal fragments. woo
Yeah, I know. That's why I put it in quotations. The original article I read, which I didn't link to because it wasn't very good, labeled it a force field.
Pure Metal
13-04-2006, 18:15
Liasia']how is that a 'force field' in any way? it shoots an explosive countermeasure, its not as if this technology is massively advanced. Its some creative use of radar and metal fragments. woo
there was a magnetic 'forcefield' that i read about some time ago which looked kinda similar to this... it tracked when a large metallic projectile came too close to the viehicle and deflected it. somehow. with magnets.
ah somebody posted it here on NS ages ago, but that was more like a forcefield than this. that said, this is still cool...
Lacadaemon
13-04-2006, 18:18
Liasia']how is that a 'force field' in any way? it shoots an explosive countermeasure, its not as if this technology is massively advanced. Its some creative use of radar and metal fragments. woo

I also share your dissapointment. I was hoping that there would be an actual force field, not some minature CIWS.

Damn you, Mr. Commies Deleted! Damn you for getting my hopes up.
Drunk commies deleted
13-04-2006, 18:24
I also share your dissapointment. I was hoping that there would be an actual force field, not some minature CIWS.

Damn you, Mr. Commies Deleted! Damn you for getting my hopes up.
Damn, now I'm damned. This sucks, damn it!
Skinny87
13-04-2006, 18:27
And yet another military technology comes out, to be ruthlessly plundered by the NS Design Community and used in our future wars.

*Cackles*
Carnivorous Lickers
13-04-2006, 19:28
good news. and it will only be refined and improved.

they should keep eqyuipment like this secret-let the enemey find out through more exhaustive trial and error.
[NS]Liasia
13-04-2006, 19:48
there was a magnetic 'forcefield' that i read about some time ago which looked kinda similar to this... it tracked when a large metallic projectile came too close to the viehicle and deflected it. somehow. with magnets.
ah somebody posted it here on NS ages ago, but that was more like a forcefield than this. that said, this is still cool...

But if you watch the video, it doesnt deflect projectiles, it blows them up. Don't think there were magnets involved.
Khadgar
13-04-2006, 20:03
He may be referring to a magnetically contained cold plasma field. Which depending on the plasma density could be as hard as a wall or insubstantial. As an added bonus it scatters radar.
Pure Metal
13-04-2006, 20:16
Liasia']But if you watch the video, it doesnt deflect projectiles, it blows them up. Don't think there were magnets involved.
i was talking about an entirely different system...

He may be referring to a magnetically contained cold plasma field. Which depending on the plasma density could be as hard as a wall or insubstantial. As an added bonus it scatters radar.
sounds about right... i don't remember too well. got any links?
Sel Appa
13-04-2006, 20:38
Imagine if we didnt support Israel...

I want one of those..."Hey you! Come and get me!" *stands inside forcefield* Person comes and is vaporized. :)
Khadgar
13-04-2006, 21:01
i was talking about an entirely different system...


sounds about right... i don't remember too well. got any links?
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/cold_plasma_000724.html
Asbena
13-04-2006, 21:08
Good thing I know Israel on 21:C. :D
Though this will be exploited by both NS Rpers and RL people.
Ultraextreme Sanity
13-04-2006, 21:10
I guess they never heard of reactive armor before .
Asbena
13-04-2006, 21:14
I guess they never heard of reactive armor before .
:p

Who hasn't though?
Quagmus
13-04-2006, 21:16
The US and Israel have developed a system that may make the threat from RPGs to military vehicles a thing of the past.

video of the new system http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=-yVdwvodPo8

a page explainig the new system http://www.defense-update.com/products/t/trophy.htm

lets see, we need...stealth rpg. Multifaceted surface, no problem. I will alter the production lines at once...
Ifreann
13-04-2006, 21:20
I'll call our guy in Iraq and tell them we'll need more money for this shipment. Mwahahahaha[/evil]
Quagmus
13-04-2006, 21:22
I'll call our guy in Iraq and tell them we'll need more money for this shipment. Mwahahahaha[/evil]
*dances to song from fiddler on the roof, If I was a Rich man, dada di di dum di dada daradum....*
Quaon
13-04-2006, 21:36
The US and Israel have developed a system that may make the threat from RPGs to military vehicles a thing of the past.

video of the new system http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=-yVdwvodPo8

a page explainig the new system http://www.defense-update.com/products/t/trophy.htm
Amazing. I see a day when they'll be able to do this with bullets.
[NS]Liasia
13-04-2006, 21:37
Amazing. I see a day when they'll be able to do this with bullets.
26th january, 2156
Gargantua City State
13-04-2006, 21:44
Wow, was I ever disappointed with that... how can they even ATTEMPT to compare THAT with a force field?
Seriously, Fox is on glue... perhaps something stronger.
Targetting, tracking, and diffusing an RPG is NOT the same as having a force field. Someone needs to teach those Fox News writers something about science fiction...
Kalmykhia
13-04-2006, 21:49
And yet another military technology comes out, to be ruthlessly plundered by the NS Design Community and used in our future wars.

*Cackles*
Think folk already have... If not, then why, this has been in the public domain for YONKS... Stealth RPG is a good idea, though, but Quagmus is helping the enemy by giving them that idea!
Quaon
13-04-2006, 22:03
Wow, was I ever disappointed with that... how can they even ATTEMPT to compare THAT with a force field?
Seriously, Fox is on glue... perhaps something stronger.
Targetting, tracking, and diffusing an RPG is NOT the same as having a force field. Someone needs to teach those Fox News writers something about science fiction...
Though if they did have a real forcefield that could be used on a personal level, they'd get a lot more recruits. People would join just to experience something they think is cool: see foriegn places, meet new people, and blow shit up.
Sileetris
13-04-2006, 22:10
The earlier thing you guys are thinking about is Electric Reactive Armor which uses two conductive plates to form a powerful capacitor; when the jet of molten metal penetrates and connects the two plates, the massive charge built up runs through the jet and causes it to vaporize. http://www.dstl.gov.uk/news_events/press/pr2002/01-07-02.php

The media calls anything like this a force field because either A: They are idiots, or B: They realize they are talking to idiots.
Luporum
13-04-2006, 22:12
I was expecting something from War of the Worlds were it would detonate prematurely, but noooooooooo.
Quagmus
13-04-2006, 22:56
Think folk already have... If not, then why, this has been in the public domain for YONKS... Stealth RPG is a good idea, though, but Quagmus is helping the enemy by giving them that idea!
Who is the enemy? Besides, one should always root for the little guy.
Drunk commies deleted
13-04-2006, 22:59
Who is the enemy? Besides, one should always root for the little guy.
What about when the little guy is just a complete asshole?
Quagmus
13-04-2006, 23:03
What about when the little guy is just a complete asshole?
Then he should only receive moderate beating.
Fascist Emirates
13-04-2006, 23:04
I've seen this before.
Kalmykhia
13-04-2006, 23:04
What about when the little guy is just a complete asshole?
What about when he's only an asshole cos everyone else is bigger and more assholey than him and he has to fight really dirty to have the slightest of chances?
Drunk commies deleted
13-04-2006, 23:07
Then he should only receive moderate beating.
Moderate meaning that he loses all his teeth and walks with a limp for the rest of his life, but doesn't lose sight in one or both eyes or suffers severe brain damage?
Drunk commies deleted
13-04-2006, 23:07
What about when he's only an asshole cos everyone else is bigger and more assholey than him and he has to fight really dirty to have the slightest of chances?
Fighting dirty doesn't make you an asshole, acting like an asshole makes you an asshole.
Quagmus
13-04-2006, 23:08
Moderate meaning that he loses all his teeth and walks with a limp for the rest of his life, but doesn't lose sight in one or both eyes or suffers severe brain damage?
Depends on many factors, especially level of assholity, compared to assholiness of agressor.
Kalmykhia
13-04-2006, 23:18
Fighting dirty doesn't make you an asshole, acting like an asshole makes you an asshole.
Makes you more of an asshole, though...
Drunk commies deleted
13-04-2006, 23:20
Makes you more of an asshole, though...
No it doesn't. Just makes you smarter and/or more ruthless.
Kalmykhia
13-04-2006, 23:21
No it doesn't. Just makes you smarter and/or more ruthless.
So any kind of fighting dirty is OK?
Drunk commies deleted
13-04-2006, 23:26
So any kind of fighting dirty is OK?
I guess so. Not war fighting, they've got rules for that sort of thing, just for stomping people who need it.
Kalmykhia
13-04-2006, 23:29
I guess so. Not war fighting, they've got rules for that sort of thing, just for stomping people who need it.
Jolly good. Mind if I use this in court?




joking, of course!
Saige Dragon
13-04-2006, 23:55
The US and Israel have developed a system that may make the threat from RPGs to military vehicles a thing of the past.

video of the new system http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=-yVdwvodPo8

a page explainig the new system http://www.defense-update.com/products/t/trophy.htm

So now instead of an explosive charge flying at you there is a large amount of 'harmless' shrapnel? Sounds like this sytem accomplishes much.:)