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Do you know items made in sweatshops in Saipan not only are sold in the US tafiff free but get to display that coveted "Made in the USA" label?

And do you know Tom Delays connection with this continueing injustice?

One more reason to hate the man and the story (http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/09/real.delay/index.html) is almost a year old...

DeLay fully approved of the working and living conditions. The Texan's salute to the owners and Abramoff's government clients was recorded by ABC-TV News: "You are a shining light for what is happening to the Republican Party, and you represent everything that is good about what we are trying to do in America and leading the world in the free-market system"

Later, DeLay would tell The Washington Post's Juliet Eilperin that the low-wage, anti-union conditions of the Marianas constituted "a perfect petri dish of capitalism. It's like my Galapagos Island."
Sometimes you don't know if you should cry or throw something or deck somebody or find out if it'd be possible to get far enough away...

h, that's not the half of it. (http://www.texasobserver.org/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=1743)
Many of these people had not seen any of the world beyond their villages. Several Bangladeshi men, hired to work in security, were told and believed they could ride the train from Saipan to Los Angeles. Chinese workers who became pregnant were forced to return to China to have an abortion or else have it performed at a clinic on Saipan....

On arrival in Saipan some workers found that their contracts were worthless. They were told their employer had gone bankrupt. Day laborers who had thought they were going to be security guards piled on top of each other at night in one-room hovels and explored ideas like selling their kidneys to raise enough money to go home. Saipan became a fixture of the booming global sex trade. Young Chinese women recruited for restaurant jobs were ordered to work in karaoke and topless bars where managers told them they had to drink and have sex with customers. They received no pay for this coerced prostitution. The so-called bar fines for their services went to their employers....

Meanwhile, Representative George Miller and his chief of staff accepted the new governor’s invitation to come to Saipan for his inauguration. This, too, was a fact-finding mission, but they were looking for a different kind of fact. The Californians were taken on tours of a garment factory in which women labored placidly and appeared to relax over dinner in a cafeteria. “At the hotel nobody would come near us,” said Miller. “They were terrified. But when we got back people were literally slipping notes under our doors. One of the cleaning ladies handed us a message from a relative who worked in this place where we’d been. It said that as soon as we were gone, they had to drop their food and get back to work—they had been off the clock while we were there. The relative said, “Tell the congressmen they’ve been had.”

“So we sent word that at eight o’clock we’d be at this church way back in the island. At midnight people were still crowding in the church to tell us what their lives were like. It was incredible. The economy and immigration were so skewed that Marianas islanders had houses full of servants and were living on food stamps. Workers were being abused in so many ways. They had no rights, young women were being forced into prostitution, yet here’s Mr. Conservative Morality, Tom DeLay, telling the world that this is a good system.”
Yeah, pardon me while I puke at Delay's hypocrisy. I guess abortion and prostitution are only sins when white people get them. Or is it just that, to DeLay, Marianas Islanders aren't really people?

Figures. Sickening, but I can't say I'm overly suprised.

Isn't "made in ____" just where it was pakaged?

*walks off*

Sickening. But not surprising.

Sometimes you don't know if you should cry or throw something or deck somebody or find out if it'd be possible to get far enough away...
It's easy to like a hierarchy when you're at the top of it.

It's easy to like a hierarchy when you're at the top of it.
And if you have no soul.

And if you have no soul.
What has this fictional "soul" got to do with anything?

And if you have no soul.
Souls are overrated and pointless.
All the same, even dismissing the moral element, you have to be a very new and exciting kind of stupid to let yourself be caught out cheerleading for this sort of business. It seems that malapropism isn't dead after all.

lol, it says comething similar on converses. "made in vietnam - an all american shoe". mwahahaha

a very new and exciting kind of stupid

That is potentially the greatest phrase I have ever heard.

a perfect petri dish of capitalism. It's like my Galapagos Island.
Does this mean that he agrees with evolution now?

lol, it says comething similar on converses. "made in vietnam - an all american shoe". mwahahaha
I had cuisine de france, American style, made in Ireland doughnuts before.

I had cuisine de france, American style, made in Ireland doughnuts before.
LOL:eek:

Do you know items made in sweatshops in Saipan not only are sold in the US tafiff free but get to display that coveted "Made in the USA" label?

well, it is technically part of the u.s.

but yeah, merkans really need to pay more attention to what goes on in their colonies.

Do you know items made in sweatshops in Saipan not only are sold in the US tafiff free but get to display that coveted "Made in the USA" label?

And do you know Tom Delays connection with this continueing injustice?

One more reason to hate the man and the story (http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/09/real.delay/index.html) is almost a year old...

This is sickening; although, you have to realise, that Saipan is a U.S. Commonwealth, so it is technically made in the U.S.A.

Sickening... but indeed an example of capitalism unregulated in a petri dish. Lassez faire invites such abuses.

This is sickening; although, you have to realise, that Saipan is a U.S. Commonwealth, so it is technically made in the U.S.A.
Hang On! You mean to tell me that Commonwealth can affix "Made In ..." labels now? Why the hell does Canada not affix "Made In Britain" on his product. I'm sure it could save us some nice tariff fines when shipping some places.

Hang On! You mean to tell me that Commonwealth can affix "Made In ..." labels now?

the u.s. uses 'commonwealth' to mean 'wholly owned subsidiary'. except when it means the same thing as 'state'. and sometimes it translates 'estado libre asociado' as 'commonwealth'. really, we've got a bit of a terminology problem down here.

the u.s. uses 'commonwealth' to mean 'wholly owned subsidiary'. except when it means the same thing as 'state'. and sometimes it translates 'estado libre asociado' as 'commonwealth'. really, we've got a bit of a terminology problem down here.
ah, I see. Somewhat.

Carry on, then...

Why is Saipan not subject to US Labour laws?

Why is Saipan not subject to US Labour laws?

Because the Supreme Ct. Struck down the notion that the constitution and labour laws follow the flag. The constitution and all US law only apply to those in the UNITED STATES or U.S. citizens abroad, not our colonies. A lot of the same type of stuff happens in Puerto Rico, also, just not as much, because they actually have a bit of representation in government, just not much.

Can anyone on the NS Right explain how Saipan is anything like an ideal economy or society?

Can anyone on the NS Right explain how Saipan is anything like an ideal economy or society?

Are you questioning the righteousness of capitalism? Are you aware that God reserves the hottest places in hell for traitors like you? The Good Lord has divinely ordained capitalism as the only valid economic system, and one that rewards his chosen few with the wealth and happiness they have earned by fearing and serving him. I suggest you repent while you still have a chance.

Are you questioning the righteousness of capitalism? Are you aware that God reserves the hottest places in hell for traitors like you? The Good Lord has divinely ordained capitalism as the only valid economic system, and one that rewards his chosen few with the wealth and happiness they have earned by fearing and serving him. I suggest you repent while you still have a chance.
Looks like hes one o' dem commie terrorists.

Why is Saipan not subject to US Labour laws?

well what's the point of having a bunch of far-flung colonies if not to ruthlessly exploit them?

Are you questioning the righteousness of capitalism? Are you aware that God reserves the hottest places in hell for traitors like you? The Good Lord has divinely ordained capitalism as the only valid economic system, and one that rewards his chosen few with the wealth and happiness they have earned by fearing and serving him. I suggest you repent while you still have a chance.
In capitalism, you are rewarded for serving yourself, not God. :cool:

Can anyone on the NS Right explain how Saipan is anything like an ideal economy or society?

I'd say it's probably pretty ideal for the people making buttloads of money off of the activities in Saipan.

Souls are overrated and pointless.
All the same, even dismissing the moral element, you have to be a very new and exciting kind of stupid to let yourself be caught out cheerleading for this sort of business. It seems that malapropism isn't dead after all.

Yet I'm sure Ayn Rand would love it.

Later, DeLay would tell The Washington Post's Juliet Eilperin that the low-wage, anti-union conditions of the Marianas constituted "a perfect petri dish of capitalism. It's like my Galapagos Island."

wait, since when does delay believe in evolution or science in general?

I'd say it's probably pretty ideal for the people making buttloads of money off of the activities in Saipan.
As I said
It's easy to like a hierarchy when you're at the top of it.

Later, DeLay would tell The Washington Post's Juliet Eilperin that the low-wage, anti-union conditions of the Marianas constituted "a perfect petri dish of capitalism. It's like my Galapagos Island."

wait, since when does delay believe in evolution or science in general?
Yeah
Does this mean that he agrees with evolution now?

As I said

sorry about that, i apparently didn't read the bottom of the first page