NationStates Jolt Archive

Before you go off on me, think about this:

The Swedes are noted for their diplomacy and tact; the US seems to have some problems in this area, especially of late.

The US has an incredibly strong defense posture; the Swedes have neither the money nor the stomach for it.

We could draw up a treaty that stipulates neither would go to war without the consent of the other. It would stipulate that:

1. The first step would be the Swedes try diplomacy and other means short of war.

2. The US couldn't use the military unless the Swedes said diplomacy or economic sanctions wouldn't work.

3. After the combat phase, the US would withdraw its military, and the Swedes would be in charge of nation-buliding with the US supporting their efforts with personnel, material and bucks.

Your thoughts? :)

Nightmarish. Absolutely nightmarish.

I like our insignificance, thank you very much.

Oh come on, we all know it's just because you fancy Fass.

Oh come on, we all know it's just because you fancy Fass.
Yeah. He roxorz my soxorz! I get off on being insulted! :D

Nightmarish. Absolutely nightmarish.

I agree...we dont want you pussies running our bad ass reputation for always fucking up situations that could easily be dealt with:p

As if!

Nightmarish. Absolutely nightmarish.

I like our insignificance, thank you very much.
What? Sweden isn't concerned about the rest of the world??? :eek:

I agree...we dont want you pussies running our bad ass reputation for always fucking up situations that could easily be dealt with:p

As if!
That's just ... wrong on so many levels I have NO idea where to start! Heh!

I like our insignificance, thank you very much.

:D I was just about to post that the only thing I know about Sweden is that they are Vikings then I realised that maybe we Brits have been spending too much time with the Americans

Before you go off on me, think about this:

The Swedes are noted for their diplomacy and tact; the US seems to have some problems in this area, especially of late.

The US has an incredibly strong defense posture; the Swedes have neither the money nor the stomach for it.

We could draw up a treaty that stipulates neither would go to war without the consent of the other. It would stipulate that:

1. The first step would be the Swedes try diplomacy and other means short of war.

2. The US couldn't use the military unless the Swedes said diplomacy or economic sanctions wouldn't work.

3. After the combat phase, the US would withdraw its military, and the Swedes would be in charge of nation-buliding with the US supporting their efforts with personnel, material and bucks.

Your thoughts? :)

Why not just put the Swedes in charge of everything, cut out the middleman?

:D I was just about to post that the only thing I know about Sweden is that they are Vikings then I realised that maybe we Brits have bin spending too much time with the Americans
Hmmm. Perhaps, but there are some Brits I would love to spend considerably more time with! :D

Why not just put the Swedes in charge of everything, cut out the middleman?
[ points to OP ] "... the Swedes have neither the money nor the stomach for it." :p

Hmmm. Perhaps, but there are some Brits I would love to spend considerably more time with! :D

the sad thing is I have absolutely no idea what that is supposed to mean:(

What? Sweden isn't concerned about the rest of the world??? :eek:

Oh, we're concerned. We are, however, not the right people to fix it. Perish the thought.

the sad thing is I have absolutely no idea what that is supposed to mean:(
Heh! :rolleyes:

There are several female Brits on here I would love to spend more time with.

How's that? Comprende usted?

the sad thing is I have absolutely no idea what that is supposed to mean:(
He wants to spend time with The Queen. She's about his age and all...:p

Oh, we're concerned. We are, however, not the right people to fix it. Perish the thought.
Ah! So you'd rather stand on the margins and scoff at the Bobbitts, I take it?

He wants to spend time with The Queen. She's about his age and all...:p

The Queen is all about class. So, I have a hard time seeing her with Eut. The Duchess of York, on the other hand...

He wants to spend time with The Queen. She's about his age and all...:p
[ trout-slap ]

The Queen is all about class. So, I have a hard time seeing her with Eut. The Duchess of York, on the other hand...
ROFLMAO!

See what I mean? :p

HELLO?!?! You're all reinventing the wheel. But not too well. There are also other, just as competent "peacemakers" than the Swedes.

Think of the Kosovo crisis. A Swedish diplomat attempted to gain some common ground with Milosevic. Americans bombed. President of Finland Ahtisaari got Milosevic to agree to a peace. Or actually surrender.

The fact is, in the modern post-11.9. world, that the US goes to war and other countries get to clean up the mess.

Ah! So you'd rather stand on the margins and scoff at the Bobbitts, I take it?

Bobbitts? I'd rather we mind our own business and offer help, instead of force it, and only do so when we can be certain that we won't fuck up even more.

[ points to OP ] "... the Swedes have neither the money nor the stomach for it." :p

Well, get the Americans to take over the world and then the Swedes to run it for them. Works for the English football team and Sven Goran Eriksson. Hire in swedish consultants!

ROFLMAO!

See what I mean? :p

I'm sorry, but you are not Queen material. You simply don't hold a candle to the Duke of Edinburgh.

Bobbitts? I'd rather we mind our own business and offer help, instead of force it, and only do so when we can be certain that we won't fuck up even more.
What a radical concept! Hmm. Perhaps the US would be wise to adopt it. :D

HELLO?!?! You're all reinventing the wheel. But not too well. There are also other, just as competent "peacemakers" than the Swedes.

Think of the Kosovo crisis. A Swedish diplomat attempted to gain some common ground with Milosevic. Americans bombed. President of Finland Ahtisaari got Milosevic to agree to a peace. Or actually surrender.

The fact is, in the modern post-11.9. world, that the US goes to war and other countries get to clean up the mess.

As an American, I'm gonna have to admit to the going to war part, but what messes that we have made have other countries had to clean up?

Well, get the Americans to take over the world and then the Swedes to run it for them. Works for the English football team and Sven Goran Eriksson. Hire in swedish consultants!
Good idea! I'll talk to my Congresswoman about it. :)

I'm sorry, but you are not Queen material.
And I'm suppose to complain about that? NOT! Heh!

What a radical concept! Hmm. Perhaps the US would be wise to adopt it. :D

Wouldn't want to hamper your empire-building.

Wouldn't want to hamper your empire-building.

Hey! You guys had your chance as Vikings, now were gonna have our chance as "freedom spreaders"!:p

Hey! You guys had your chance as Vikings, now were gonna have our chance as "freedom spreaders"!:p

Wouldn't it be great if you could spread freedom to yourselves?

Wouldn't it be great if you could spread freedom to yourselves?

That makes almost as much sense as you guys raiding yourself....pfft:rolleyes: :p

Hey! You guys had your chance as Vikings, now were gonna have our chance as "freedom spreaders"!:p

I think i'd prefer the Vikings myself...

As an American, I'm gonna have to admit to the going to war part, but what messes that we have made have other countries had to clean up?
Uh, have you lived inside a barrel since 2001? In Afghanistan and Iraq, the actual nationbuilding has been done by the allies, not by the Americans themselves.

Uh, have you lived inside a barrel since 2001? In Afghanistan and Iraq, the actual nationbuilding has been done by the allies, not by the Americans themselves.

Uh...have you lived in a constant barrage of pro arab anti American propaganda!!!

Our military has been rebuilding the infustructure in the countries we have invaded...building schools and government buildings...ect...Eutrusca...help me out here...you know tons about your military.

Wouldn't it be great if you could spread freedom to yourselves?
Strange, I don't feel any way other than free. Hmm. Perhaps I missed something. [ worried look ]

I think i'd prefer the Vikings myself...

Yeah...I wouldnt mind being a Viking.....pillage villages...rape women of the north....raid Englands coast...ahhh the good old days.

Strange, I don't feel any way other than free. Hmm. Perhaps I missed something. [ worried look ]

Indeed you did.

Uh, have you lived inside a barrel since 2001? In Afghanistan and Iraq, the actual nationbuilding has been done by the allies, not by the Americans themselves.
I have no idea where you've been getting your news, but that is most assuredly untrue. Would you like me to find a news report on the things American military personnel have been doing in the area of nation-buliding? Or, for that matter, other American governmental and non-governmental organizations?

Indeed you did.
Care to enlighted me, oh Great One?

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Ack, bindestreck. Blir lite ledsen i ögat.

Care to enlighted me, oh Great One?

Not really, no. That thing I mentioned about minding our own business? It applies. "The land of the free" may keep its nowadays ironic moniker. I've really stopped caring, seeing as you're only USians.

Yeah...I wouldnt mind being a Viking.....pillage villages...rape women of the north....raid Englands coast...ahhh the good old days.

Spreading that red-headed Neanderthal gene down the centurys so that today Pantygraigwen sits in front of his PC typing a response, and ruffling his hand through his now thinning ginger hair...

Strange, I don't feel any way other than free. Hmm. Perhaps I missed something. [ worried look ]
Yes, but you're a straight white male.

Spreading that red-headed Neanderthal gene down the centurys so that today Pantygraigwen sits in front of his PC typing a response, and ruffling his hand through his now thinning ginger hair...

Ginger? I'm so sorry.

Yes, but you're a straight white male.
And that has significance how???

And that has significance how???
I would imagine it is alot easier to get the feeling of being "free" if you are a straight white male, than it would be if you were a gay native woman.

As an American, I'm gonna have to admit to the going to war part, but what messes that we have made have other countries had to clean up?
What messes have you cleaned up yourselves?

Ginger? I'm so sorry.

You know, we've made homophobia, sexism, racism, heightism, ageism and every other ism socially unacceptable, but people still bang on with the anti-ginger jokes.

Fact: Being ginger has got me laid more times than i can shake a stick at (although what i would be shaking a stick at, and why i would be doing that when i could get laid, i don't know)

Fact: Ginger people are - according to recent scientific studies - more impervious to physical pain, and extremes of temperature.

Fact: Jimmy Cagney was ginger.

This all adds up, in my eyes, to us being the master race.

Especially the Cagney bit, he ruled.

I always thought we should make an alliance with Ur anus :D

Fact: Ginger people are - according to recent scientific studies - more impervious to physical pain, and extremes of temperature.

Well, that explains why you don't feel your head being on fire all the time.





I'm sorry. So very sorry...

You know, we've made homophobia, sexism, racism, heightism, ageism and every other ism socially unacceptable, but people still bang on with the anti-ginger jokes.

Ginger pubes are just hilarious, and that's all I can think of when I see someone ginger, nowadays.

Fact: Being ginger has got me laid more times than i can shake a stick at (although what i would be shaking a stick at, and why i would be doing that when i could get laid, i don't know)

Some people like the freak factor.

Fact: Ginger people are - according to recent scientific studies - more impervious to physical pain, and extremes of temperature.

Just shield your pasty bum from the sun, ok?

Fact: Jimmy Cagney was ginger.

This all adds up, in my eyes, to us being the master race.

Especially the Cagney bit, he ruled.

Aww, it thinks it's people.

Well, that explains why you don't feel your head being on fire all the time.





I'm sorry. So very sorry...

In the words of Edmund Blackadder, i feel glad that i wore my corset, else i am afraid my sides would have split :p

Well, that explains why you don't feel your head being on fire all the time.

I'm sorry. So very sorry...

I miss kindergarten cruelty...

I always thought we should make an alliance with Ur anus :D

Some of us already have.

Ginger pubes are just hilarious, and that's all I can think of when I see someone ginger, nowadays.

Actually, thats the only part of me that remains ginger nowadays, i'm going more and more auburn with advancing age. And i'm actually trying, and failing, to think of pubic hair that isn't funny, or indeed, any sexual organ or part appertaining to sexual organs that aren't funny. Thats half the fun dammit.


Some people like the freak factor.

Now now. Thats just mean and tetchy.

Just shield your pasty bum from the sun, ok?

Anti Ginger propaganda, i go a very fetching nut brown in the sun.

Aww, it thinks it's people.

Thats just nasty. Especially after i advocated the Swedes taking over the world.

Spreading that red-headed Neanderthal gene down the centurys so that today Pantygraigwen sits in front of his PC typing a response, and ruffling his hand through his now thinning ginger hair...

Well I can thank the vikings for spreading that blonde haired neanderthal gene down to me:)

I would imagine it is alot easier to get the feeling of being "free" if you are a straight white male, than it would be if you were a gay native woman.
Perhaps, but all the freedoms in the Constitution are guaranteed to everyone.

Actually, thats the only part of me that remains ginger nowadays, i'm going more and more auburn with advancing age. And i'm actually trying, and failing, to think of pubic hair that isn't funny, or indeed, any sexual organ or part appertaining to sexual organs that aren't funny. Thats half the fun dammit.

There are genitals that make you want to lick them. And then there are genitals that make you want to shave them.

Now now. Thats just mean and tetchy.

And I'm usually a really pleasant converser.

Anti Ginger propaganda, i go a very fetching nut brown in the sun.

I can just imagine the freckling.

Thats just nasty. Especially after i advocated the Swedes taking over the world.

You were under the impression we were not a cold and haughty people?

Perhaps, but all the freedoms in the Constitution are guaranteed to everyone.

That must be why they needed all those amendmends that went, "oh, okay, the blacks and women are men, too, we suppose..."

Perhaps, but all the freedoms in the Constitution are guaranteed to everyone.
And "freedoms" (and I use the term in its loosest sense) not in the Constitution are guaranteed to everyone?

There are genitals that make you want to lick them. And then there are genitals that make you want to shave them.

Ah bless. And then there's genitals that are amusing. Oh, no, wait, thats all of them!


And I'm usually a really pleasant converser.

Of course you are, i can see you know driving in your volvo to the sauna, chatting away merrily in that funny little language of yours.

I can just imagine the freckling.

Not since i was nine, ta.

You were under the impression we were not a cold and haughty people?

I was under the impression you were a pleasant and affable race, and had got all that nasty aggression out of your system around the time of Gustavus Adolphus.

Before you go off on me, think about this:

The Swedes are noted for their diplomacy and tact; the US seems to have some problems in this area, especially of late.

The US has an incredibly strong defense posture; the Swedes have neither the money nor the stomach for it.

We could draw up a treaty that stipulates neither would go to war without the consent of the other. It would stipulate that:

1. The first step would be the Swedes try diplomacy and other means short of war.

2. The US couldn't use the military unless the Swedes said diplomacy or economic sanctions wouldn't work.

3. After the combat phase, the US would withdraw its military, and the Swedes would be in charge of nation-buliding with the US supporting their efforts with personnel, material and bucks.

Your thoughts? :)

Sorry E, I've gotta disagree with you on this one. The Swedes are not to be trusted: just like the Bosh, they invaded Poland.

Poland is our ally! We can't trust the beligerants arrayed against her!
We must remain vigilant regarding the Swedes, Germans, Russians, Germans, French, Germans, Austrians, Germans, Hungarians, Germans, Mongols, and Germans! Not to mention the Germans! However, the important thing to remember is that unlike today's Germans, the Swedes actually have a viable military! Indeed, they are much more dangerous than the Bosh.

Sorry, just a little Bosh bashing to balance out the regularly scheduled America bashing. ;)

Ah bless. And then there's genitals that are amusing. Oh, no, wait, thats all of them!

You must not have licked enough of them.

Of course you are, i can see you know driving in your volvo to the sauna, chatting away merrily in that funny little language of yours.

Drive? As in, not take public transportation? How utterly anti-socialist.

Not since i was nine, ta.

The thing is, ginger people kind of stay in that pre-pubescent age, appearance-wise, often.

I was under the impression you were a pleasant and affable race, and had got all that nasty aggression out of your system around the time of Gustavus Adolphus.

I guess we had you fooled.

That must be why they needed all those amendmends that went, "oh, okay, the blacks and women are men, too, we suppose..."
Good nations evolve and correct past errors. Bad nations continue to make the same mistakes, over and over and over. :p

Sorry, just a little Bosh bashing to balance out the regularly scheduled America bashing. ;)

Did you mean boche? (http://www.bartleby.com/61/8/B0360800.html)

Good nations evolve and correct past errors. Bad nations continue to make the same mistakes, over and over and over. :p

That's ends up reflecting poorly.

That's ends up reflecting poorly.
That would depend upon one's prespective, I suppose. Granted, we've made some real lulus of mistakes, but I tend to see those as not grevious.