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A friend of mine is considering going to UBC for college because it is way cheaper than college in the states. UBC is in fact a good school (3rd in Canada) and tuition is cheaper than even some of the community colleges here in the states. How come people in the United States want to stay here for college instead of going to a school at a much better value in Canada?

Either they are ignorant, and consider Canadian schools beneath them or too "foreign", or they want to get a degree from somewhere prestigious sounding.

Because Canadians need to have a meeting to think about leaving a burning building. :)

I know. I've been working for Canadians for almost 5 years now.

A friend of mine is considering going to UBC for college because it is way cheaper than college in the states. UBC is in fact a good school (3rd in Canada) and tuition is cheaper than even some of the community colleges here in the states. How come people in the United States want to stay here for college instead of going to a school at a much better value in Canada?
because Boston is in the US.

Probably the logic that if out-of-state is so expensive, out-of-country would be insane

Idk though

because Boston is in the US.

Correct.

UBC as in University of British Columbia

Either they are ignorant, and consider Canadian schools beneath them or too "foreign", or they want to get a degree from somewhere prestigious sounding.
You're right, there are only two possible answers to his question. :rolleyes:
Thanks for stereotyping Americans.

Because Americans are suspicious of anything outside their borders, for the most part, and the other part consists of those who want to go to university (without pressure from parents) and those with tons of pressure from parents wanting to go to "the best", and by "the best", I really mean "an Ivy League school".

Also, not really on topic so much, but you called it college, so I must. There's a major difference between college and university up here in Canada. What is it your friend wants to study? Universities are heavy on the book learning, the 'IQ' courses basically, while colleges are heavy on the manual professions. If you see "University" in the name, it's probably centered around the heavy-duty textbook courses, and if you see "College", it's probably centered around learning-by-doing-after-minimal-book-work courses. There are exceptions, of course, but it's a good thing to know if you're going to Post-Secondary in Canada from outside the country, so that you're making the right choice of school type for you.

You're right, there are only two possible answers to his question. :rolleyes:
Thanks for stereotyping Americans.

Fine, at my American school, thats what people think. Yup. There are only two types of people at my school. *nods*.

A friend of mine is considering going to UBC for college because it is way cheaper than college in the states. UBC is in fact a good school (3rd in Canada) and tuition is cheaper than even some of the community colleges here in the states. How come people in the United States want to stay here for college instead of going to a school at a much better value in Canada?

Because an American going to university in Canada counts as an international student, which automatically makes their tuitions MUCH MUCH higher. It's always the cheapest to go to school in your home nation, because it won't charge you for being its citizen.

A friend of mine is considering going to UBC for college because it is way cheaper than college in the states. UBC is in fact a good school (3rd in Canada) and tuition is cheaper than even some of the community colleges here in the states. How come people in the United States want to stay here for college instead of going to a school at a much better value in Canada?
You have to move across the border. Apply for a student visa. Meet a new group of people. Live in a place with a slightly different lifestyle comparedto backhome, etc.

Can they get a job in the US if they went to a Canadian school or are they at a disadvantage?

because Boston is in the US.

*SMITE WITH THE WRATH OF A SCORNED CANADIAN WOMAN*

Really, now. It does not matter where you attended university in the real world. Trust me. I've been there.

*SMITE WITH THE WRATH OF A SCORNED CANADIAN WOMAN*

Really, now. It does not matter where you attended university in the real world. Trust me. I've been there.

Candian woman again, eh? You're La dame's friend aren't ya?

Can they get a job in the US if they went to a Canadian school or are they at a disadvantage?

they are at a bit of a disadventage. It depends on the school they go to. If you went to U of T or McGill or even Waterloo, then US companies would recognize them as good students. Also, if they want their masters or ph. d. degrees, then they have get their graduates in Canada, then go back to the States for further education.

Candian woman again, eh? You're La dame's friend aren't ya?

Indeed. I'm suprised you know me. I keep myself quiet...except when mocking Bush...and Americans...

Some people don't want to go to college that far from home. Also, many of the colleges, or at least all the ones I've heard of in Canada, are really hard to get into. The biggest reason though, is that most people can only really name one or two colleges in Canada.

Indeed. I'm suprised you know me. I keep myself quiet...except when mocking Bush...and Americans...

He's the creepy dude who somehow found my picture. Smite him for me, I say!

He's the creepy dude who somehow found my picture. Smite him for me, I say!

Oh, well then.

*SMITE WITH THE WRATH OF TWO SCORNED CANADIAN WOMEN*

I think that should do it for now.

And whoever said that there are only two Canadian unis known, really...I fail to find a flaw in that statement. Many Americans don't seem to even know Canada exists...

*SMITE WITH THE WRATH OF A SCORNED CANADIAN WOMAN*

Really, now. It does not matter where you attended university in the real world. Trust me. I've been there.

You've been to Boston? Nice.

Oh, well then.

*SMITE WITH THE WRATH OF TWO SCORNED CANADIAN WOMEN*

I think that should do it for now.

And whoever said that there are only two Canadian unis known, really...I fail to find a flaw in that statement. Many Americans don't seem to even know Canada exists...

Thank ye. But seriously, to Americans, we are known as the thing "north of them, where people play hockey, ice fish, live in igloos, and say 'eh' a lot."

Thank ye. But seriously, to Americans, we are known as the thing "north of them, where people play hockey, ice fish, live in igloos, and say 'eh' a lot."

Don't forget the beer. We have the best keggers on Earth.

You've been to Boston? Nice.

You win.

Don't forget the beer. We have the best keggers on
Earth.

no, according to the Americans, they do.

You've been to Boston? Nice.

she's been to everywhere. Name a place, and chances are, she's been there or planning to go there.

You win.

Thank you.

*SMITE WITH THE WRATH OF A SCORNED CANADIAN WOMAN*

Really, now. It does not matter where you attended university in the real world. Trust me. I've been there.
my first reaction was "you have got to be kidding"...but I think I might be interpreting you wrong.

if you mean the whole "what's in a name" argument, as in there isn't a huge difference between a degree from Harvard and a degree from, lets say, UBC...then I agree.

But I think the experience of where the college is is very important. I can honestly say that going to school in Storrs, CT (ie Cow Country) would be hugely different from going to school in Boston.

Don't get me wrong, Toronto, Quebec, Montreal...nice cities (hate their fans, but nice cities none the less). Just...they aren't Boston:)

she's been to everywhere. Name a place, and chances are, she's been there or planning to go there.

Do you two know each other or something?

she's been to everywhere. Name a place, and chances are, she's been there or planning to go there.

Too true. In fact, I'd be interested to find out what some people's real names are. If they are my contemporaries, then I may well know them, depending on the country.

Do you two know each other or something?

Read the thread. Might answer some things for ya. :rolleyes:

Do you two know each other or something?

she's only my bestest sarcasm-loving bush-hating soongistic rednecked hippie friend. :D

Oh, well then.

*SMITE WITH THE WRATH OF TWO SCORNED CANADIAN WOMEN*

I think that should do it for now.

And whoever said that there are only two Canadian unis known, really...I fail to find a flaw in that statement. Many Americans don't seem to even know Canada exists...

It's not that Canadian universities are bad; it's just that off the top of my head I can only really name one. Canada doesn't really publicize thier colleges in the U.S.

Also, whoever said that it costs more for international students to go to college in Canada, I went to UBC's web site and did some calculations.

The estimated total cost for a domestic engineering student is $16,649.
For an international engineering student: $32,691

Too true. In fact, I'd be interested to find out what some people's real names are. If they are my contemporaries, then I may well know them, depending on the country.

well, we DO have a couple of Aussies here, but don't think they're online right now.

Read the thread. Might answer some things for ya. :rolleyes:

No need to roll your eyes.

It's not that Canadian universities are bad; it's just that off the top of my head I can only really name one. Canada doesn't really publicize thier colleges in the U.S.

Also, whoever said that it costs more for international students to go to college in Canada, I went to UBC's web site and did some calculations.

The estimated total cost for a domestic engineering student is $16,649.
For an international engineering student: $32,691

Is that still cheaper than the States?

No need to roll your eyes.

You're right. I'm in Canada, the only thing above me is Santa.

And yes, international students suffer. But remember, the Looney is still lower than the US Dollar...

the biggest reasons are location related.

My friend is at McGill. She comes home for the summer and christmas, if that.
I go to school in Boston. When I want to, I go home. Its an hour and a half away. While I rarely take that option, it is still a nice option to have.

If I was concerned about money, believe me, I would not be at BU.

there are also tons of universities in the US that fill every level.

The reasons of Americans being "afraid" to leave the country is complete bull. We have study abroads and other programs. Most of us leave the country for our spring breaks, and no, not just to Cancun.

Price is an issue for many. Yes, the university is cheaper. But traveling isn't. I live in CT, which is a state pretty far north. To get to Montreal, it is 8 hours. Or a flight. Neither is cheap.

It is a pain to go visit a college in another state, let alone another country. And not visiting the campus atleast once is just a bad idea.

Yes, Canada has great colleges and universities. So does America, and those are almost always closer to home, reasonably priced, and offer great programs.

Is that still cheaper than the States?
that is in line with some of the pricer universities. You would also have to factor in travel/moving fees.

You're right. I'm in Canada, the only thing above me is Santa.

And yes, international students suffer. But remember, the Looney is still lower than the US Dollar...

well, there ARE Inuits above you as well...:p

well, there ARE Inuits above you as well...:p

I'm related to them in some fashion...so family doesn't count :P

that is in line with some of the pricer universities. You would also have to factor in travel/moving fees.

exactly, so it's actually not cheaper to go to university in Canada.

Is that still cheaper than the States?

Not really, most people who pay that much are going to small liberal arts schools, where the class sizes are smaller. Most people won't pay that much to go to a public university. Also, in-state tuition is much cheaper at a public school. At the University of Maryland, total cost for a resident is about $19,871.

I'm related to them in some fashion...so family doesn't count :P

don't get me started on my you've been everywhere and related to everything rant.

don't get me started on my you've been everywhere and related to everything rant.

Teehee. Puts a whole new perspective on 'worldly'.

Teehee. Puts a whole new perspective on 'worldly'.

nah! Get to South America, and Antartica before making that claim. :p

nah! Get to South America, and Antartica before making that claim. :p

Indeed, I fail....

Indeed, I fail....

repent, and you might not be doomed! First line of business, go to a Peru pyramid and find an Aztec priest. :p

repent, and you might not be doomed! First line of business, go to a Peru pyramid and find an Aztec priest. :p

When I repent is the day Bush is elected for a third term.

Oo, that's an all new kind of crazy Lady. But perhaps the Commie would entertain the idea?

When I repent is the day Bush is elected for a third term.

Oo, that's an all new kind of crazy Lady. But perhaps the Commie would entertain the idea?

Then it shall be very soon. Bush is going to run for a 3rd term, and then become the supreme dictator of the US. That means you'll have to repent, right? I'm keeping this as future blackmail material then.

Well, if you actually end up in Peru with an Aztec priest, then I might take the commie with me for speculation...:p

It's a case of less publicized and international student tuition, as many posters here have pointed out.

However, some posters have pointed out the lack of US accreditation and the distance you have to travel. In some instances, however, neither of these is a factor.

Athabasca University (based in Athabasca, Alberta, Canada) is accredited both in Canada and in the US by the Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools in the US. The difference is that it is an institution based fully on distance education.

Your courses get sent to you, you get weekly telephone contact with a "tutor" (usually a professor) to help you along and you basically can do your full Bachelor's and Master's degrees from your home or work.

Don't think it's a cake-walk though. If you can't handle working on your own to a deadline, or you need the structure of a class-room setting, you will fail. This isn't a correspondence school, it's a university and they expect university level performance from their students (at least. Some might say that some of the courses are even tougher as they don't want one of their graduates perpetuating the stigma typically attached to distance ed.)

Of course, I'm biased, but it's worked well for me so far.