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Well what do you call it? I call it tomato sauce. But my friends cal it red. And then there's always the class clown who calls it ketchup. And my teacher prefers to think of it as congealed blood (YEUGH!). Will someone please contribute in a helpful way?

Blood m'dear, blood all the way

Ketchup is NOT tomato sauce. They're two very different things. Don't believe me? Try some spaghetti and ketchup. BTW, originally ketchup was made with mushrooms, walnuts or tomato. Only the tomato version is still popular.

Karo brand light corn syrup, loads of red food coloring, a dash of blue food coloring and a little bit of non-dairy creamer to make it more opaque.

Well what do you call it? I call it tomato sauce. But my friends cal it red. And then there's always the class clown who calls it ketchup. And my teacher prefers to think of it as congealed blood (YEUGH!). Will someone please contribute in a helpful way?
i guess it depends on what the hell youre talking about

take a look at the container it comes in. if its labelled as "ketchup" or "catsup" its ketchup

if its in a can labelled "tomato sauce" its tomato sauce.

if its that nasty crap in a generic squeeze bottle and you put it on your frenchfries, its ketchup

Marinara?

although I agree with Ashmoria that there is a difference between tomato sauce and ketchup (mainly the addition of vinegar and sugar to ketchup) around here we call it catsup most of the time, although me being in the younger generation, I say "ketchup".


My kids call it "saucy sauce", but they are preschoolers so I bet that doesn't last long.

tomato...sauce?

...red...?

...It's ketchup for God's sake. Simply ketchup!!!

*stomps on the opinions of other nations*

"dead horse"

Tomato Ketchup.

Tomato sauce in this house, and the houses of my friends too....but we are English and I think that makes a difference....

My lovely Canadian says NOT to him it isn't, to him its Ketchup....

I say what do the ketchup people (Who I am guessing are mainly north American) call brown sauce?

although I agree with Ashmoria that there is a difference between tomato sauce and ketchup (mainly the addition of vinegar and sugar to ketchup) around here we call it catsup most of the time, although me being in the younger generation, I say "ketchup".


My kids call it "saucy sauce", but they are preschoolers so I bet that doesn't last long.

Heinz calls it Ketchup, so it's KETCHUP! hehe


seriously, though, ketchup and tomato sauce are two totally different things... tomato sauce is used to make soup bases, spaaghetti (or other Italian) sauce bases, etc.

Ketchup goes with burgers, hot dogs, brats (etc.) and fries. And for some, it goes on eggs.

Tomato sauce in this house, and the houses of my friends too....but we are English and I think that makes a difference....

My lovely Canadian says NOT to him it isn't, to him its Ketchup....

I say what do the ketchup people (Who I am guessing are mainly north American) call brown sauce?

io have no idea what "brown sauce" is... are you talking about beef gravy or au jus, for instance?

brats

You put tomato sauce on badly bahaved unruly children? And you think the English are eccentric...:rolleyes:

Heinz calls it Ketchup, so it's KETCHUP! hehe


seriously, though, ketchup and tomato sauce are two totally different things... tomato sauce is used to make soup bases, spaaghetti (or other Italian) sauce bases, etc.

Ketchup goes with burgers, hot dogs, brats (etc.) and fries. And for some, it goes on eggs.

What he said...

...Except for the brats part. NEVER should ANYONE put ketchup on hot dogs or sausage.

You put tomato sauce on badly bahaved unruly children? And you think the English are eccentric...:rolleyes:

bratWURST = brat

io have no idea what "brown sauce" is... are you talking about beef gravy or au jus, for instance?

No, gravy is gravy, and it is brown. But its not brown sauce, which is a brown coloured sauce (like HP) with a tangy and stronger taste than tomato sauce (ketchup). It is often used in the most excellent production of a 'full english'

I just googled brown sauce and found this lol http://www.funkypancake.com/blog/archives/002600.html

AND if you wish to try this great delicacy, please visit the local shop..

http://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/britishfood.asp?id=TJ0936

What he said...

...Except for the brats part. NEVER should ANYONE put ketchup on hot dogs or sausage.

What? Of course ketchup goes on hot dogs! (I can't speak for sausage, however)

What? Of course ketchup goes on hot dogs! (I can't speak for sausage, however)

Sausage, egg and chips, has tomato sauce/ketchup on it by law in England...

What? Of course ketchup goes on hot dogs! (I can't speak for sausage, however)

What the fuck? MUSTARD goes on hot dogs, as do kosher dill pickles, relish, tomatoes, peppers, and onions.

Of course, I grew up with the Chicago hot dog (there was an authentic Chicago-style deli in Port Aransas --- best stuff ever), so that's just me.

Sausage, egg and chips, has tomato sauce/ketchup on it by law in England...
eww.

What the fuck? MUSTARD goes on hot dogs, as do kosher dill pickles, relish, tomatoes, peppers, and onions.

Of course, I grew up with the Chicago hot dog (there was an authentic Chicago-style deli in Port Aransas --- best stuff ever), so that's just me.

Well, I've eaten 'em with ketchup, or ketchup and mustard. Unless you're eating it plain, there's no reason not to have ketchup.

Well, I've eaten 'em with ketchup, or ketchup and mustard. Unless you're eating it plain, there's no reason not to have ketchup.

When I went to public school, they had hot dogs, but the only condiment they had was ketchup. I really had no choice, as the hot dogs were terrible. I used as much ketchup as I could to cover up the disgusting taste of the low-quality meat (I'm guessing it was Chihuaha).

However, when the meat is half-decent, I either make it Chicago-style (when I have the stuff to do so), Cincinnati-style (chili and cheese, damnit), just with mustard, or plain.

I'm not a big fan of New York-style. Sauerkraut isn't my thing.

It's Ketchup, dammit, and if you don't like it, we're not going to send you any of the good stuff and you'll be forced to eat the generic kind.

For the record, mustard is an abomination and shouldn't be used on anything.

No, gravy is gravy, and it is brown. But its not brown sauce, which is a brown coloured sauce (like HP) with a tangy and stronger taste than tomato sauce (ketchup). It is often used in the most excellent production of a 'full english'We don't have that here, the closest thing would be Worchestershire sauce. (I know this because I asked a British person on this forum what it was, otherwise I've never heard of it.)

What the fuck? MUSTARD goes on hot dogs, as do kosher dill pickles, relish, tomatoes, peppers, and onions.

Of course, I grew up with the Chicago hot dog (there was an authentic Chicago-style deli in Port Aransas --- best stuff ever), so that's just me.

BIGOT!

Ketchup balances the SOUR-ASS flavor of mustard.

;)

It's Ketchup, dammit, and if you don't like it, we're not going to send you any of the good stuff and you'll be forced to eat the generic kind.

For the record, mustard is an abomination and shouldn't be used on anything.

I hate you.

BIGOT!

Ketchup balances the SOUR-ASS flavor of mustard.

;)

I can taste puke in my mouth now. Thanks.

What? Of course ketchup goes on hot dogs! (I can't speak for sausage, however)
No it doesn't. Mustard and relish do.

I hate you.Lol. Sorry, but I think anything with "turd" as one of its syllables should usually be avoided.

At least you recognize the superiority of kosher pickles over the nasty sweet kind, though.

No it doesn't. Mustard and relish do.

*high fives*

Ketchup goes on hamburgers. Not hot dogs.

well it goes on mine... i leave that bitter stuff called mustard off... well maybe just a little bit of mustard.

and lots of relish.

seriously...

are there places where what we know as ketchup... is referred to as tomato sauce?

seriously...

are there places where what we know as ketchup... is referred to as tomato sauce?
I sincerely hope not. I shudder to think what their version of Italian food tastes like.

I sincerely hope not. I shudder to think what their version of Italian food tastes like.

Funny you should mention that. I got some pizza at the local hospital's cafeteria, and my first bite was horrid.

First of all, they used American cheese. As for the sauce, it was ketchup mixed with salsa (GAG). And I still don't know what the fuck they used for the crust.

Funny you should mention that. I got some pizza at the local hospital's cafeteria, and my first bite was horrid.

First of all, they used American cheese. As for the sauce, it was ketchup mixed with salsa (GAG). And I still don't know what the fuck they used for the crust.Crackers?

Crackers?

I'll say this...

...Crackers for crust would've tasted better. Saltines, even.

Funny you should mention that. I got some pizza at the local hospital's cafeteria, and my first bite was horrid.

First of all, they used American cheese. As for the sauce, it was ketchup mixed with salsa (GAG). And I still don't know what the fuck they used for the crust.

american cheese as the base cheese on pizza? That's just wrong. In fact, American probably shouldn't be used at all.

I had pizza in Italy... that had a combination of cheeses on it (mozzarella and ricotta, for sure, and i actually think there was some blue cheese... gave it a bit of zip) and it was great. Combination cheese on pizza doesn't have to be bad, but including American must be disastrous and I empathize with your dining experience.

and ketchup as sauce... is comical. if the crust was made of crushed-up crackers, that would doubtlessly be the clusterf*** of all pizzas, or at least the worst-built pizza I've ever read about (or seen... never seen one so messed up).

Funny you should mention that. I got some pizza at the local hospital's cafeteria, and my first bite was horrid.

First of all, they used American cheese. As for the sauce, it was ketchup mixed with salsa (GAG). And I still don't know what the fuck they used for the crust.
Where was this? What city?

I sincerely hope not. I shudder to think what their version of Italian food tastes like.

no kidding...

Today, sir, our sauces are ketchup Bolognese and Ketchinara sauce.

Where was this? What city?

if it was an abortion clinic, it might be the first time that the bombing of one was met with sincere applause.

hehe

Where was this? What city?

Tomball, where I currently live. It's 30 miles north of Houston.

I honestly don't know what the hell they were trying to pull. Their food's always been really good (especially their bacon cheeseburgers). That was the one bad thing I had there, and man, was it bad.

Tomball, where I currently live. It's 30 miles north of Houston.

I honestly don't know what the hell they were trying to pull. Their food's always been really good (especially their bacon cheeseburgers). That was the one bad thing I had there, and man, was it bad.
I've always believed that outside of New York and Northern New Jersey you can't find good pizza.

We call it tomato sauce, or just sauce. If you just ask for sauce, everyone knows it's tomato sauce you want.

Or as Kanabia said, "dead horse".

Heinz calls it Ketchup, so it's KETCHUP! hehe


seriously, though, ketchup and tomato sauce are two totally different things... tomato sauce is used to make soup bases, spaaghetti (or other Italian) sauce bases, etc.

Ketchup goes with burgers, hot dogs, brats (etc.) and fries. And for some, it goes on eggs.

This sounds like what we call tomato paste.

Tomato Paste, is different from Tomato Sauce, which is different from Ketchup.

Tomato Paste is thicker in consistency and is a puree that is used for sauces.
Ketchup is a condiment and is only used as such.
Tomato Sauce is tomato paste with other vegetables and spices mixed in for flavor.

Those are the definitions in Italy anyways.


I've always believed that outside of New York and Northern New Jersey you can't find good pizza. There is a place in Virginia Beach with great pizza and of course there is always Italy.

Well what do you call it? I call it tomato sauce. But my friends cal it red. And then there's always the class clown who calls it ketchup. And my teacher prefers to think of it as congealed blood (YEUGH!). Will someone please contribute in a helpful way?

i call it spaghetti sause....when i was little i called it sgetti sause

my older relatives call it gravy?

Ketchup all the way. Tomato sauce is what I use for pizza and/or pasta. Anyone here ever tried banana ketchup?

What? Of course ketchup goes on hot dogs! (I can't speak for sausage, however)

If the sausage is in a bun, it's valid.

Ketchup all the way. Tomato sauce is what I use for pizza and/or pasta.

When I make pizza, I use that heinz chili sauce instead of tomato sauce. Try it if you ever want a pizza that bites back.

No, gravy is gravy, and it is brown. But its not brown sauce, which is a brown coloured sauce (like HP) with a tangy and stronger taste than tomato sauce (ketchup). It is often used in the most excellent production of a 'full english'


steak sauce?

Well what do you call it? I call it tomato sauce. But my friends cal it red. And then there's always the class clown who calls it ketchup. And my teacher prefers to think of it as congealed blood (YEUGH!). Will someone please contribute in a helpful way?

Tomato sauce is a sauce - made of tomatoes, just tomatoes - it's about the consistency of gravy and is used as a base for other things.

Ketchup is a condiment made with tomatoes, vinegar, sugar and some spices.

Red sauce is a sauce for meat, pasta etc. made with a tomato sauce as a base.

Blood is, well, blood.

What the fuck? MUSTARD goes on hot dogs, as do kosher dill pickles, relish, tomatoes, peppers, and onions.

Of course, I grew up with the Chicago hot dog (there was an authentic Chicago-style deli in Port Aransas --- best stuff ever), so that's just me.
Your right only barbarians put ketchup on Hot Dogs, at least thats what my New Yorker dad always tells my moms family at reunions:p I use it ocasionally, but only if it is a crappy generic brand type Hot Dog, not on any of the beter quality stuff, unless I want to screw whit pops;)

When I went to public school, they had hot dogs, but the only condiment they had was ketchup. I really had no choice, as the hot dogs were terrible. I used as much ketchup as I could to cover up the disgusting taste of the low-quality meat (I'm guessing it was Chihuaha).

However, when the meat is half-decent, I either make it Chicago-style (when I have the stuff to do so), Cincinnati-style (chili and cheese, damnit), just with mustard, or plain.

I'm not a big fan of New York-style. Sauerkraut isn't my thing.
AH:eek: and here I just agreed with your tastes how can you not like, good, saurkraut on Hot Dog.

well it goes on mine... i leave that bitter stuff called mustard off... well maybe just a little bit of mustard.

and lots of relish.
Fiend:eek:

Well what do you call it? I call it tomato sauce. But my friends cal it red. And then there's always the class clown who calls it ketchup. And my teacher prefers to think of it as congealed blood (YEUGH!). Will someone please contribute in a helpful way?
Well, we all call it tomato sauce, but Heinz Ketchup apparently tastes different from Watties Tomato Sacue. Heinz owns Watties. WTF? Following hte logic of them just using a different name for the same recipe...:confused:

Oh, and this (http://www.thesavanna.co.uk/images/allgoldsmll.jpg) is the best ketchup ever. It actually tastes like tomatoes!

Just for the Americans and others who seem unable to understand...

In England Heinz Tomato Ketchup (its the same stuff that you get) is CALLED tomato sauce...its NOT different, the product is the same..we just CALL it that...

We don't put spaggetti sauce on chips and use it like ketchup...the thread is asking what I call it, and I answered...we use the exact same stuff (the red sauce in a bottle with Heinz Ketchup on the label and everything) but I call it Tomato Sauce...as do many English people....its not DIFFERENT stuff, its just a different NAME....now do you get it?

As for brown sauce, take a look at the link I posted and it will help...its not like Worcester Sauce, but its like a cross between that and KETCHUP (tomato sauce)

Why is it so hard to grasp that other countries use different words for the same thing....I know that you call a toilet a bathroom...and a bath a tub and a tap is called a fawcet and the pavement is the sidewalk and the road is the pavement and the bonnet is the hood and the boot in the trunk....I don't think that all american cars have big wooden trunks on the back of them when I hear it called that....:headbang:

Ketchup is the same stuff here, some of us just call it something different...OK?

Oh, and this is the best ketchup ever. It actually tastes like tomatoes! btw..take a look at what it says on the label of that best ever ketchup...I think you will find it says TOMATO SAUCE

"dead horse"

Yes! That's exactly what it is! (Is that an Australian thing, btw?) :D

Yes! That's exactly what it is! (Is that an Australian thing, btw?) :D

Yes. Do you want some dead horse (sauce) on your dog's eye (pie)?

Yes. Do you want some dead horse (sauce) on your dog's eye (pie)?

Ooh, yes please! :D
Then I might have some cat meat (I'm not sure if this is common or not, we used to call dim sims this) :D

Ooh, yes please! :D
Then I might have some cat meat (I'm not sure if this is common or not, we used to call dim sims this) :D

We just call them dimmies.

Well what do you call it? I call it tomato sauce. But my friends cal it red. And then there's always the class clown who calls it ketchup. And my teacher prefers to think of it as congealed blood (YEUGH!). Will someone please contribute in a helpful way?I'm confused. Why would anybody call tomato sauce ketchup or ketchup tomato sauce?

We just call them dimmies.

Ok, must just have been my strange family then lol :D

I'm confused. Why would anybody call tomato sauce ketchup or ketchup tomato sauce?

without wishing to repeat myself......I will anyway...

Just for the Americans and others who seem unable to understand...

In England Heinz Tomato Ketchup (its the same stuff that you get) is CALLED tomato sauce...its NOT different, the product is the same..we just CALL it that...

We don't put spaggetti sauce on chips and use it like ketchup...the thread is asking what I call it, and I answered...we use the exact same stuff (the red sauce in a bottle with Heinz Ketchup on the label and everything) but I call it Tomato Sauce...as do many English people....its not DIFFERENT stuff, its just a different NAME....now do you get it?

As for brown sauce, take a look at the link I posted and it will help...its not like Worcester Sauce, but its like a cross between that and KETCHUP (tomato sauce)

Why is it so hard to grasp that other countries use different words for the same thing....I know that you call a toilet a bathroom...and a bath a tub and a tap is called a fawcet and the pavement is the sidewalk and the road is the pavement and the bonnet is the hood and the boot in the trunk....I don't think that all american cars have big wooden trunks on the back of them when I hear it called that....

Ketchup is the same stuff here, some of us just call it something different...OK?


Quote:
Oh, and this is the best ketchup ever. It actually tastes like tomatoes!

btw..take a look at what it says on the label of that best ever ketchup...I think you will find it says TOMATO SAUCE

Ketchup is the same stuff here, some of us just call it something different...OK?Good grief! That's just like the American obsession with calling football soccer!

The stuff you put on pizzas or mix with spaghetti is called tomato sauce in German too, and the funny stuff in bottles is ketchup.
(Please forgive me for not having the patience to read through 60+ posts on red semi-liquid substances, even if it makes you repeat yourself ;) )

Good grief! That's just like the American obsession with calling football soccer!

The stuff you put on pizzas or mix with spaghetti is called tomato sauce in German too, and the funny stuff in bottles is ketchup.
(Please forgive me for not having the patience to read through 60+ posts on red semi-liquid substances, even if it makes you repeat yourself ;) )

I do, I love you and am sorry that I shouted.....

It is not the Official name, it actually says Tomato Ketchup on the bottle, its just the name many English (not all, by any means) use....

*goes and :headbang: for a while)

I do, I love you and am sorry that I shouted.....

It is not the Official name, it actually says Tomato Ketchup on the bottle, its just the name many English (not all, by any means) use....

*goes and :headbang: for a while)That's ok. Like I said, the two native dialects I have both agree that it's ketchup and tomato sauce.

But I'm also someone that loves getting into nonsensical fights about what to call food items. It happens all the time, since there's zounds of different names for common things in the different parts of Germany. I know of at least three different names for what I'd refer to as a "Berliner" and two different names for pancakes...

*puts a soft, fluffy pillow in between Carisbrooke's head and the wall*

-snip the big long rant-:p
I'm English and I call it ketchup. Don't use it that much, because HP goes with everything so much better.
This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Sauce) is the best brown sauce there is.

That's ok. Like I said, the two native dialects I have both agree that it's ketchup and tomato sauce.

But I'm also someone that loves getting into nonsensical fights about what to call food items. It happens all the time, since there's zounds of different names for common things in the different parts of Germany. I know of at least three different names for what I'd refer to as a "Berliner" and two different names for pancakes...

*puts a soft, fluffy pillow in between Carisbrooke's head and the wall*

Thank you :fluffle: I have learned different names for everyday items since I became enamoured with the Canadian.....

Where I live we call the high hills 'Downs' and gorges 'Chines' and lunch is sometimes called dinner, and the meal you eat at around 5 is called Tea, and so it goes on...

this pillow is lovely!....*goes and has a nap

I'm English and I call it ketchup. Don't use it that much, because HP goes with everything so much better.
This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Sauce) is the best brown sauce there is.

I did say that not EVERYONE calls it tomato sauce......and Brown sauce is going to cause you difficulty....I already raised that, and noone from America knew what I was talking about.....

HP is the best, but Daddies is also good.

I did say that not EVERYONE calls it tomato sauce......and Brown sauce is going to cause you difficulty....I already raised that, and noone from America knew what I was talking about.....

HP is the best, but Daddies is also good.
I know. I remember a thread not so long ago where I was trying to explain what brown sauce is, but I gave up after a few pages as it seemed nobody could grasp the concept.

I usually call the icky sweet stuff "catsup", but have been internationally "domesticated" enough that I no longer get confused when John Bull calls it tomaahto sauce.


"dead horse"

I picked that up from a mate and use it on occassion. Sure gets me strange looks back home in the US....

However, I cannot abide by this UNHOLY abomination:

What? Of course ketchup goes on hot dogs! (I can't speak for sausage, however)


May the Gods of the Holy and Sacred Iconic Hot Dog strike your tastebuds dead, sinning heathen!!!!! ;)

However, you may actually want an actual reasoned argument against using ketchu on a hot dog. Here you go:

Why is there no ketchup on a properly made hot dog?

Dear Cecil:

I was sitting at the Montreal Pool Room eating my all-dressed hot dog and suddenly the question hit me: why is there no ketchup in an all-dressed? Is ketchup not as respectable a condiment as relish or mustard? Is there a conspiracy? Does Dirty Harry's remark about ketchup in a hot dog have anything to do with it? I would be so thankful if you could shine a light on this obscure bit of knowledge for a passionate and perplexed user of ketchup. --Paul Macneil, Dorval, Quebec

Cecil replies:

Paul, I know you don't mean to act like an alfalfa-chewing barbarian, but this is like asking why Leonardo didn't paint the Mona Lisa on black velvet. Ketchup is destructive of all that is right and just about a properly assembled hot dog (and we're talking about a pure beef hot dog, not one of those things you could serve with dressing on Thanksgiving).

Ketchup smothers the flavor of the hot dog because ketchup makers add sugar to their products. That takes the edge off the highly acidic tomatoes, but it takes the edge off everything else, too. Which is exactly why a lot of parents like it, according to Mel Plotsky, sales manager for the David Berg hot dog company in Chicago. (Chicago is one of the hot dog's holy cities.) Put ketchup on it and a kid will swallow anything--and from there it's a straight shot to Velveeta cheese, Franco-American spaghetti, and Deborah Norville.

For that matter, you want to watch the mustard, too. Plotsky says your mainstream brands like French's put in too much turmeric and whatnot. What you want is some unpretentious mustard like Plochman's that enhances rather than competes with the flavor of the beef. You should also steam or grill rather than boil your hot dogs--water leaches away the flavor and softens the wiener till it becomes non-tooth-resistant mush.

But--getting back to the original question--you say you like the taste of tomatoes. Fine, then eat tomatoes, as God meant them to be eaten--fresh sliced and piled on top of the hot dog. The recommended ingredients of a hot dog with everything, in order of application, are mustard, relish, chopped onion, sliced tomato, kosher pickle spear, optional peppers, and celery salt. (Many think you have to get kraut in there too, but Cecil wants a hot dog, not Oktoberfest.)

People get pretty emotional over the ketchup question. Mel Plotsky opened our discussion by describing the condiment as a "catchall of garbage." Over at crosstown rival Vienna Sausage, they refer to ketchup as the "K-word." If you go into an authentic hot dog joint and ask for ketchup on your hot dog, the counterman will pause and look you in the eye. He may or may not say, "Ketchup?" with a tone of disbelief. But you may be certain what he's thinking: "Behold this creature that walks like a man. It wants ketchup on its hot dog."

But hey, if you want ketchup, by all means get it.

--CECIL ADAMS
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_095.html

Even the National Hot Dog and Sausage Council's article "Hot Dog Etiquette
Dos and Don'ts: Everyday guidance for eating America's sacred food" says:
Don't use ketchup on your hot dog after the age of 18.
http://www.hot-dog.org/facts/hd_etiquette.htm

enough of this arguement, anyone for a flapjack?

enough of this arguement, anyone for a flapjack?

Hehehehe - out of the frying pan into the fire, eh?

enough of this arguement, anyone for a flapjack?

I prefer pikelets, or drop scones.

I quite fancy a Jaffa Cake....

I quite fancy a Jaffa Cake....

Mmmm, Jaffa Cakes. I haven't had one of them for ages.

Yes. Do you want some dead horse (sauce) on your dog's eye (pie)?

:D

Mmmm, Jaffa Cakes. I haven't had one of them for ages.

trouble is...you can never eat ONE.....the others throw themselves at you...I dare not open a packet, for fear of EATING them all...........

*hides face in shame*

trouble is...you can never eat ONE.....the others throw themselves at you...I dare not open a packet, for fear of EATING them all...........

*hides face in shame*

Do they still have the raspberry ones? I love them.

Do they still have the raspberry ones? I love them.

Raspberry JAFFA cakes? Oh thats blasphemy...I know only of orange...

I have a special way to eat them...I nibble all around the raised bit in the middle, then I lick the chocolate off the top, then slowly peel away the spongey base and lastly put the orangey bit on my tongue and let it melt in my mouth.....

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I need chocolate

Tomato Sauce Watties of course, too bad it is owned by Heinz.

What are these Jaffa Cakes you speak of? They sound like something I must have.

What are these Jaffa Cakes you speak of? They sound like something I must have.

An English biscuit. Quite the delicacy.

http://www.123healthybalance.com/i/products/jaffa-cakes.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A185104

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_Cakes

As a connoisseur of condiments, I’ve always been in the habit of buying one new sauce every time I do a major shopping trip, so my fridge has more condiments than a chef would have. For the last six months I’ve been using this stuff called “Sweet Chilli Sauce for Chicken” (yes I realize they spelled Chili wrong) made by Cock Brand and imported from Thailand. It’s better than any salsa I’ve ever had. I use it on eggs, sausage, or for dipping vegetables. It comes in a really tall bottle, 24 fl oz, and I couldn’t imagine how I got by without it. I get this sauce at my local big grocery store.

I used to use a really nice Oriental sauce called Portuguese Sauce, but since Portugal gave back their colony to China I haven’t been able to find it anywhere in China Town.

The Bruce

As a connoisseur of condiments, I’ve always been in the habit of buying one new sauce every time I do a major shopping trip, so my fridge has more condiments than a chef would have. For the last six months I’ve been using this stuff called “Sweet Chilli Sauce for Chicken” (yes I realize they spelled Chili wrong) made by Cock Brand and imported from Thailand. It’s better than any salsa I’ve ever had. I use it on eggs, sausage, or for dipping vegetables. It comes in a really tall bottle, 24 fl oz, and I couldn’t imagine how I got by without it. I get this sauce at my local big grocery store.

I used to use a really nice Oriental sauce called Portuguese Sauce, but since Portugal gave back their colony to China I haven’t been able to find it anywhere in China Town.

The Bruce

Heh. I have too many sauces as well - especially of hot sauces and different brands and styles of chili pastes.

Heh. I have too many sauces as well - especially of hot sauces and different brands and styles of chili pastes.

Just remember that they'res no such thing as too many condiments and that yes you can have a meal made up of just condiments. :)

I find that if dinner is taking too long and I have hungry guests I can easily mollify them by offering fresh mushrooms dipped in oyster sauce. Those little dipping jars for sushi are really handy some times.

May the Gods of the Holy and Sacred Iconic Hot Dog strike your tastebuds dead, sinning heathen!!!!! ;) Well, I must be a great big sinner, even more so than the person you quoted, because ketchup is quite frequently the only condiment I'll use - including on a hot dog.

Well, I must be a great big sinner, even more so than the person you quoted, because ketchup is quite frequently the only condiment I'll use - including on a hot dog.

*cries*

*cries*Yep, if I can't find dill pickles/relish, and have no lettuce, tomato, or cheese (debatable of the latter three are condiments, anyway) then ketchup is it.

Well, I must be a great big sinner, even more so than the person you quoted, because ketchup is quite frequently the only condiment I'll use - including on a hot dog.

Yes, you are.

The ecclesiastical court of the Gods of the Holy and Sacred Iconic Hot Dog has met and passed sentence. You are to spend all of eternity listening only to Britney Spears' "music". Thus is the eternal damnation for such horrible sacrilege and blasphemy.

And now for a sermon from Father Harry Callahan:
Nah, this stuff isn't getting to me — the shootings, the knifings, the beatings... old ladies being bashed in the head for their social security checks[.] [...] Nah, that doesn't bother me. But you know what does bother me? You know what makes me really sick to my stomach? It's watching you stuff your face with those hot dogs. Nobody... I mean nobody puts ketchup on a hot dog.

Yes, you are.

The ecclesiastical court of the Gods of the Holy and Sacred Iconic Hot Dog has met and passed sentence. You are to spend all of eternity listening only to Britney Spears' "music". Thus is the eternal damnation for such horrible sacrilege and blasphemy.

And now for a sermon from Father Harry Callahan:Oh, dear. I suppose we'll have to cut off the supply of all Heinz and Heinz-owned products to the Gods of the Holy and Sacred Iconic Hot Dog.

Just remember that they'res no such thing as too many condiments and that yes you can have a meal made up of just condiments. :)


:::goes up stairs, looks in fridge and on shelf, counts:::

1 jar of my SIL's homemade habanero jelly (jam)
6 bottles of assorted hot sauces
5 different brands of Korean chili paste
3 brands of Chinese chili paste
2 brands of Japanese chili paste
1 most excellent jar of yuzu chili paste
1 jar of ume boshi sauce
2 bottles of commercial Korean style yakiniku sauce
2 bottles of homemade Korean style yakiniku sauce
1 bottle of Tonkatsu sauce (prolly similar to that Portugese sauce)
1 bag of chopped onions
1 bag of chopped chives
2 bags of commercial fried onion toppings
1 bottle of "real" bacon bits
1 bottle of fake bacon bits
2 bottles of dried grated parmesan cheese
2 jars of garlic paste
1 jar of Polish dill pickles
1 jar of my SIL's homemade pickles
1 ginger root
1 bag of 10-12 bulbs of garlic
3 brands of soy sauce
2 brands of miso paste (notes to self: need to buy more)
4 bottles of salad dressing (shiso/vinegar, ceasar, sesame, and a homemade vinegarette)
1 big bag of sea salt
1 smaller bag of table salt
1 big bag of rock salt
1 tub of sour cream
1 tub of plain yogurt
2 sticks of butter
1 bottle apple vinegar
1 bottle basalmic vinegar
1 bottle white wine vinegar
1 small bottle of homemade pepper vodka (storebought vodka, my friends habaneros)
Plus a spice rack full of the usual, plus assorted "oddities" (lemongrass, saffron, shiso, and that sort of thing)

*raids Daistallia's kitchen*

Oh, dear. I suppose we'll have to cut off the supply of all Heinz and Heinz-owned products to the Gods of the Holy and Sacred Iconic Hot Dog.

:D

Can't say that I've bought anything Heinz in a long time. Not unless they own a bunch of Japanese, Chinese, and Korean companies...

*raids Daistallia's kitchen*

:::waves homemade habanero laced kim chi at Potarius:::

:D

Can't say that I've bought anything Heinz in a long time. Not unless they own a bunch of Japanese, Chinese, and Korean companies...I dunno, though Harlesburg said they owned Watties in England, and I didn't know that, so it's possible, but unlikely.

I dunno, though Harlesburg said they owned Watties in England, and I didn't know that, so it's possible, but unlikely.

Funnily enough, when I went to look up Kagome (major sauce company here), I found this:

Kagome, Heinz call off alliance

Monday, September 9, 2002 at 17:30 JST
TOKYO — Kagome Co, Japan's largest manufacturer of tomato processed foods, said Monday it has abandoned its plan to form a capital alliance with U.S. food giant H.J. Heinz Co because they were unable to agree on the financial details.

As part of the alliance, announced in July last year, Kagome was to take a 51% stake in Heinz Japan's Japan Ltd, the Japanese unit of Heinz. But Kagome had to back out as it could not agree with Heinz on how much it would pay for the share deal, it said. (Kyodo News)
link (http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:wJncSyp5EXEJ:www.japantoday.com/gidx/news229596.html+kagome+heinz&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1)

Funnily enough, when I went to look up Kagome (major sauce company here), I found this:


link (http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:wJncSyp5EXEJ:www.japantoday.com/gidx/news229596.html+kagome+heinz&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1)Ah, good. Heinz isn't spreading to take over the Kagome company, but it they are in contact with one another, so it's only a matter of time...

:::waves homemade habanero laced kim chi at Potarius:::

I'll have it if he doesn't want it.

I got interesting looks from some Japanese people some time ago when I ate a whole tub of Wasabi by dipping Doritos in it. :D

I'll have it if he doesn't want it.

I got interesting looks from some Japanese people some time ago when I ate a whole tub of Wasabi by dipping Doritos in it. :D

That's just wrong...




























why'd you waste good wasabi with Doritos?

Ah, good. Heinz isn't spreading to take over the Kagome company, but it they are in contact with one another, so it's only a matter of time...

Kikkoman's not Heinz. Nor are the others, AFAIK.

I think I just feel the need to mention Jaffa cakes again.....

Oh the joy that is Jaffa Cake....

Well, I must be a great big sinner, even more so than the person you quoted, because ketchup is quite frequently the only condiment I'll use - including on a hot dog.Damn straight! I can't stand relish and most of the other gunk, and ketchup beats mustard and mayonnaise any day.

Damn straight! I can't stand relish and most of the other gunk, and ketchup beats mustard and mayonnaise any day.

Be warned, the ecclesiatic court's not in a forgiuving mood. You too can be sentenced to an eternity of listening only to..... the anti-hot-dog's "music".

Be warned, the ecclesiatic court's not in a forgiuving mood. You too can be sentenced to an eternity of listening only to..... the anti-hot-dog's "music".It hath no jurisdiction where I'm at :D

It hath no jurisdiction where I'm at :D

We're talking about the afterlife.... Repent now or forever burn in the pits of "Brit-pop"....

Just for the Americans and others who seem unable to understand...

In England Heinz Tomato Ketchup (its the same stuff that you get) is CALLED tomato sauce...its NOT different, the product is the same..we just CALL it that...

We don't put spaggetti sauce on chips and use it like ketchup...the thread is asking what I call it, and I answered...we use the exact same stuff (the red sauce in a bottle with Heinz Ketchup on the label and everything) but I call it Tomato Sauce...as do many English people....its not DIFFERENT stuff, its just a different NAME....now do you get it?

As for brown sauce, take a look at the link I posted and it will help...its not like Worcester Sauce, but its like a cross between that and KETCHUP (tomato sauce)

Why is it so hard to grasp that other countries use different words for the same thing....I know that you call a toilet a bathroom...and a bath a tub and a tap is called a fawcet and the pavement is the sidewalk and the road is the pavement and the bonnet is the hood and the boot in the trunk....I don't think that all american cars have big wooden trunks on the back of them when I hear it called that....:headbang:

Ketchup is the same stuff here, some of us just call it something different...OK?

btw..take a look at what it says on the label of that best ever ketchup...I think you will find it says TOMATO SAUCE

*runs and cowers in a corner*

I know that tomato sauce is the same as ketchup. In saying that I call it ketchup, and the stuff that goes on pizza/pasta tomato sauce, I was just trying to answer the OP... :(

*didnt want to repost your rant

we know the English are backaward savages that drive on the wrong side of the road, and i have accepted that you use weird words for normal everyday things

but do you really have to have ketchup flavored chips "crisps"?

I dunno, though Harlesburg said they owned Watties in England, and I didn't know that, so it's possible, but unlikely.
Well i was talking about Watties in NZ, but one can only assume we owned Britains as well.
*Assumes*
To perfectly honest people are always stealing our stuff and mmost of the time it is australia.

Well i was talking about Watties in NZ, but one can only assume we owned Britains as well.
*Assumes*
To perfectly honest people are always stealing our stuff and mmost of the time it is australia.Ah, looks like we're both doing some assuming. I believe someone from England mentioned Watties, so I assumed it was the same...lol.

I call it tomato ketchup

I think I just feel the need to mention Jaffa cakes again.....

Oh the joy that is Jaffa Cake....
With ketchup or tomato sauce?

Ah, looks like we're both doing some assuming. I believe someone from England mentioned Watties, so I assumed it was the same...lol.
The Poms also have Marmite and it is different to ours but that doesn't really help the situation.

The Poms also have Marmite and it is different to ours but that doesn't really help the situation.

A girl in our class had her aunt in Australia send her Vegemite by post, not realising it was available in the local supermarket. Oh, how we mocked her. :p

A girl in our class had her aunt in Australia send her Vegemite by post, not realising it was available in the local supermarket. Oh, how we mocked her. :p
:p
Did you give her a nickname?

I know. I remember a thread not so long ago where I was trying to explain what brown sauce is, but I gave up after a few pages as it seemed nobody could grasp the concept.
I know what it is, Watties (Heinz) sells it in my local supermarket! :)

Ah, looks like we're both doing some assuming. I believe someone from England mentioned Watties, so I assumed it was the same...lol.
I mentioned it. But I am from NZ...

:p
Did you give her a nickname?
It would've been cruel not to :)

I really don't know how to vote, because tomato sauce and ketchup are two distinct things... and I'm not sure which one you're talking about, and am too lazy to read through all the threads to see if there was clarification. :p

I really don't know how to vote, because tomato sauce and ketchup are two distinct things... and I'm not sure which one you're talking about, and am too lazy to read through all the threads to see if there was clarification. :p
Tomato sauce = pasta sauce or the stuff you find baked beans in.
Ketchup = the thick gooey stuff made by Heinz.

The argument is whether it's acceptable to call ketchup (the stuff that goes on burgers etc.) tomato sauce.

I really don't know how to vote, because tomato sauce and ketchup are two distinct things... and I'm not sure which one you're talking about, and am too lazy to read through all the threads to see if there was clarification. :p

Repeated clarifications have been made . To make it short, it's a dialect difference between US and British English.

In the US tomato sauce is a savory tomato based cooking sauce, often associated with Italian cuisine. And ketcheup/catsup is a horrible mixture of sugar, tomatoes, sugar, and sugar, which some poor unfortunates befoul their hot dogs with.

In the UK, the foul "ketchup" is called "tomato sauce", and pronounced as "tomahto". In Australia it's called tomato sauce or "dead horse" (dervived from rhyming slange - sauce being prononced in a similar way to horse.)

Repeated clarifications have been made . To make it short, it's a dialect difference between US and British English.

In the US tomato sauce is a savory tomato based cooking sauce, often associated with Italian cuisine. And ketcheup/catsup is a horrible mixture of sugar, tomatoes, sugar, and sugar, which some poor unfortunates befoul their hot dogs with.

In the UK, the foul "ketchup" is called "tomato sauce", and pronounced as "tomahto". In Australia it's called tomato sauce or "dead horse" (dervived from rhyming slange - sauce being prononced in a similar way to horse.)

An excellent summary! :)