NationStates Jolt Archive


I hate Bush, but...

Rotovia-
11-04-2006, 15:15
I've noticed Bush-bashing has become an instituition of intellectuals.

I'm not sure if it's my Propositional Logic Proffessor using "There are terrorist in Iraq, therefore we must drop bombs on Iraq" as a fault conclusion for every second example.

Or if it's my Philosophy proffessor daring us to come up with a reason not to kill Bush.

Or my Law and Ethics proffessor detailing the fundemental flaws in pro-Gitmo arguement, in a lecture on immigration law.

Or the "FUCK BUSH" t-shirt on my English Lit proffessor.

I'm really not sure what has lead me to think Bush-bashing has replaced pot as the number one past-time for intellectuals
Khadgar
11-04-2006, 15:20
Psuedo-intellectuals.

Intellectuals can argue the merits of his policy without mindlessly attacking him.
Bottle
11-04-2006, 15:22
*gasp* Wow, somebody is bashing intellectuals? Somebody is portraying intellectuals as mindless sheep who hate on Bush?! What a novel thread topic!

Hey, here's another new idea: intellectuals think they're better than everybody, and want to turn your children into homosexual abortion doctors!
Dude111
11-04-2006, 15:27
intellectuals think they're better than everybody, and want to turn your children into homosexual abortion doctors!
Yes, no.
Rotovia-
11-04-2006, 15:31
*gasp* Wow, somebody is bashing intellectuals? Somebody is portraying intellectuals as mindless sheep who hate on Bush?! What a novel thread topic!

Hey, here's another new idea: intellectuals think they're better than everybody, and want to turn your children into homosexual abortion doctors!
Nice try. But I'm afraid you've stumbled into a thread started by the world's biggest, pinko-liberal student, bush-bashing, Labour lover.

I've oversimplified their points for humour.

I was hoping we could all enjoy some nive laughes over the general anti-Bush sentiment growing the West. But alas, Bottle has to be the dick of the party
Aust
11-04-2006, 15:40
You should see our English teacher, very lession ends in a pro-socalist lecture, not hard when where reading Pullman....

But then I'm a socalist, so i agree with him.
Dubya 1000
11-04-2006, 15:42
You should see our English teacher, very lession ends in a pro-socalist lecture, not hard when where reading Pullman....

But then I'm a socalist, so i agree with him.
Consider yourself lucky. My drivers ed teacher would rave about how they should tear down the UN building and build a tennis court instead.
Rotovia-
11-04-2006, 15:43
You should see our English teacher, very lession ends in a pro-socalist lecture, not hard when where reading Pullman....

But then I'm a socalist, so i agree with him.
Well yeah. The good part is it clears the hall of the like 0.5 conservatives who bitch and moan anyway.
Aust
11-04-2006, 15:44
Well yeah. The good part is it clears the hall of the like 0.5 conservatives who bitch and moan anyway.
thig is this is Wharfedale, at the student election 300 votes where polled and my party (The lib dems) got 16 votes, we where the 2nd highest after the Conservatives (Who got the rest)
Rotovia-
11-04-2006, 15:55
thig is this is Wharfedale, at the student election 300 votes where polled and my party (The lib dems) got 16 votes, we where the 2nd highest after the Conservatives (Who got the rest)
Nice. Don't worry, the LibDems will split the left at next election and loose government to the Conservatives. They'll fuck up royally and people will voe back in Labour and the LibDems will make loyal opposition...

One can only hope...
BogMarsh
11-04-2006, 15:57
Nice. Don't worry, the LibDems will split the left at next election and loose government to the Conservatives. They'll fuck up royally and people will voe back in Labour and the LibDems will make loyal opposition...

One can only hope...


Of course, no reasonable human being could be expected to choose a Party which is involved in such scandalous things as sticking huge ( deleted ) in the wrong place, while Lab and Tory are busy sticking huge sacks of cash in the wrong place ( followed by handing out appointments to the House of Lords ), eh?
UpwardThrust
11-04-2006, 16:06
I've noticed Bush-bashing has become an instituition of intellectuals.

I'm not sure if it's my Propositional Logic Proffessor using "There are terrorist in Iraq, therefore we must drop bombs on Iraq" as a fault conclusion for every second example.

Or if it's my Philosophy proffessor daring us to come up with a reason not to kill Bush.

Or my Law and Ethics proffessor detailing the fundemental flaws in pro-Gitmo arguement, in a lecture on immigration law.

Or the "FUCK BUSH" t-shirt on my English Lit proffessor.

I'm really not sure what has lead me to think Bush-bashing has replaced pot as the number one past-time for intellectuals


Wow what univ did you go to? I could count the amount of times he has been mentioned in any context in the last 5 years on my hands alone
Gataway_Driver
11-04-2006, 16:12
My European Integration Professor has commented frequently about the "special relationship" between the US and the UK not being that special due to the fact that "Trade of inteligence with the US is not something to write home about". General US basher rather than Bush per se
Rotovia-
11-04-2006, 16:35
Wow what univ did you go to? I could count the amount of times he has been mentioned in any context in the last 5 years on my hands alone
Australia. Unfortunately, you'll go without a name. Because there's no way in hell I'm becoming "That conservative snitch". My friends are angry liberals, mostly stired by me, but they'd turn on me... *suspicously eyes doorway*
Mariehamn
11-04-2006, 16:50
Back in my High School, its forbidden to bash Bush. That's when the nuns and the fathers bring out the rope and leather whips.
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:00
You are all idiots. Your anarchist ideals shall send you to the inferno. Mindless bush-bashers have been deluded by our damned media. THe media is 99.9% liberal, so everything it says is a lie! They ignore the VAST AMOUNTS OF GOOD we have done for Iraq, and focus only on the CASUALTY REPORTS, which might I add, more Americans died in 10 minutes on D-Day trying to depose a ruler JUST AS CRAZY as Saddam then in 3 YEARS in Iraq. They ignore the love of the people, and focus only on the deaths. Big surprise, PEOPLE DIE IN WAR!!! This democracy will be the end of us, 1 God, 1 State, 1 Ruler!!!
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:03
Back in my High School, its forbidden to bash Bush. That's when the nuns and the fathers bring out the rope and leather whips.
You shall burn for your heresy! Why is your @$$ in a cathloic school if you are an anarchist liberal fool???
Dubya 1000
11-04-2006, 17:03
You are all idiots. Your anarchist ideals shall send you to the inferno. Mindless bush-bashers have been deluded by our damned media. THe media is 99.9% liberal, so everything it says is a lie! They ignore the VAST AMOUNTS OF GOOD we have done for Iraq, and focus only on the CASUALTY REPORTS, which might I add, more Americans died in 10 minutes on D-Day trying to depose a ruler JUST AS CRAZY as Saddam then in 3 YEARS in Iraq. They ignore the love of the people, and focus only on the deaths. Big surprise, PEOPLE DIE IN WAR!!! This democracy will be the end of us, 1 God, 1 State, 1 Ruler!!!
Go rant somewhere else. :rolleyes:
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:04
Well, then prove to me 1 good change liberals have made. You can't as they are all idiots
Mariehamn
11-04-2006, 17:06
You shall burn for your heresy! Why is your @$$ in a cathloic school if you are an anarchist liberal fool???
L - L- Lucifer! H - He te - tempted me! Forgive me, please - please - forgive me! Wwwrrrraaaagggghhhh!!!
*head spins around and shoots green vomit everywhere out of mouth*
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:07
Th power of Christ Compels you!
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:09
I take your silence as a surrender to the truth of Reactionary policy.
Mariehamn
11-04-2006, 17:11
I take your silence as a surrender to the truth of Reactionary policy.
I surrender to the five pillars of society: the Church, the King, the military, the class system, and the family!
*is cured*
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:12
Exactly! Your sarcasm speaks the truth! God comes first, then loyalty to your country, then the grand army, your role in society, and your family!
Dubya 1000
11-04-2006, 17:12
I take your silence as a surrender to the truth of Reactionary policy.
If you're joking, stop it. If you're not joking, you are the epitome of what's wrong with America.
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:13
I never joke
Dubya 1000
11-04-2006, 17:14
I never joke
I just ate some delicious chicken noodle soup.
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:14
And, to be precise, YOU are the epitome of what is wrong with america! Your demands for anarchy and total chaos cause divisions in this nation! People have the right to life, security, and Christianity!
Unabashed Greed
11-04-2006, 17:15
I never joke


So, you're just a jerk?
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:16
Niccolo Machiaveli speaks the truth! Read his writing, The Prince it sums up my political beliefs.
Khadgar
11-04-2006, 17:16
What good have liberals caused? Well that free speech you're exercising so dramatically is a liberal bastion. Unfortunately we say you have a right to rant as incoherently and stupidly as you like.

Fortunately our nation is founded based upon freedom, which means I don't have to listen to it. Have a nice day.
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:17
So, you're just a jerk?
If demanding security and order makes me a jerk, then so be it! You liberals cry every time you are forced into a debate, name 1 good thing a modern-day liberal has done and I will shut up!
Bejerot
11-04-2006, 17:17
I used to go to Bennington College in southern Vermont and it was extremely liberal. Most of my teachers didn't push their ideas onto the class, but one professor did. He actually ended up failing me even though I did all of the work, so I decided to leave Bennington.

Heh, I was the one Republican on campus.

Now I go to Wittenberg University in Ohio and things are much more fair and balanced. You can easily hear both sides :D.
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:18
What good have liberals caused? Well that free speech you're exercising so dramatically is a liberal bastion. Unfortunately we say you have a right to rant as incoherently and stupidly as you like.

Fortunately our nation is founded based upon freedom, which means I don't have to listen to it. Have a nice day.
So you assume conservatives detest freedom of speech? Modern-day liberals actually are against freedom of speech, because we have to be politically correct EVERYONE
Unabashed Greed
11-04-2006, 17:18
Niccolo Machiaveli speaks the truth! Read his writing, The Prince it sums up my political beliefs.

You are the most frightening person I've ever seen here. You have to be a puppet. People like you don't own computers, they hang out alone in secluded forest cabins, mailing bombs to Gary Hart.
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:20
No I am not, and there are many who oppose your anarchist ideals! Power to the Chruch! Actually READ his work, it makes much more sense then John Locke's incoherent babbling about human rights.
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:20
You are the most frightening person I've ever seen here. You have to be a puppet. People like you don't own computers, they hang out alone in secluded forest cabins, mailing bombs to Gary Hart.
Actually, I have a very nice computer
Unabashed Greed
11-04-2006, 17:21
If demanding security and order makes me a jerk, then so be it! You liberals cry every time you are forced into a debate, name 1 good thing a modern-day liberal has done and I will shut up!

Well, by your standards, CLinton was a liberal, and he was able to balance the budget after 12 years of conservative "fiscal resposibility". You know, that whols paying down the debt thing that Bush completely sundered in less than a year?
Khadgar
11-04-2006, 17:22
So you assume conservatives detest freedom of speech? Modern-day liberals actually are against freedom of speech, because we have to be politically correct EVERYONE


Political correctness has nothing to do with freedom, and quite a lot to do with simple courtesy. There are those who take it to an extreme, but they're in an obnoxious minority.

Bush et al like to have thier little town meetings and such where they screen the crowds, so that only the supporters can make their voices known. Then there's the wiretaps that watch what I say on my phone. So yeah, they're anti-free speech.

Not conservatives in general, just the present batch of neo-nazis.. erm, neo-conservatives. Sorry.


What ever happened to small government and fiscal responsibility?
Unabashed Greed
11-04-2006, 17:28
I guess he kept his promise to shut up :eek: :D
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:31
First off, only large gov'ts can govern large states. Simple. As for the wiretapping, I have nothing to hide. AS long as my information is not released to the public, I have no problen with the NSA hearing what I say on the phone. As for only conservatives being able to voice their opinion, have you ever watched 10 minutes of TV in your life? TV is anti-bush, and pro anarchy. Get your historical facts right too, the Nazis would be considered liberals by today's standards. Clinton got by on luck, besides, Hitler lowered debt in Germany as well
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:32
I guess he kept his promise to shut up :eek: :D
Just needed time to type
Delator
11-04-2006, 17:33
Well, then prove to me 1 good change liberals have made. You can't as they are all idiots

Sometimes, my faith is shaken, and I wonder what will become of us...

...then people like this guy come along, and remind me that we're all doomed.

*sigh*
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:34
Sometimes, my faith is shaken, and I wonder what will become of us...

...then people like this guy come along, and remind me that we're all doomed.

*sigh*
If you can't prove it, then don't sday anything as you are only supporting my argument
Unabashed Greed
11-04-2006, 17:34
First off, only large gov'ts can govern large states. Simple. As for the wiretapping, I have nothing to hide. AS long as my information is not released to the public, I have no problen with the NSA hearing what I say on the phone. As for only conservatives being able to voice their opinion, have you ever watched 10 minutes of TV in your life? TV is anti-bush, and pro anarchy. Get your historical facts right too, the Nazis would be considered liberals by today's standards. Clinton got by on luck, besides, Hitler lowered debt in Germany as well

You promised to shut up when someone pointed out a good thing done by a "liberal". You broke your promise. You are a liar! Like the rest of the CONservatives :p
UpwardThrust
11-04-2006, 17:35
First off, only large gov'ts can govern large states. Simple. As for the wiretapping, I have nothing to hide. AS long as my information is not released to the public, I have no problen with the NSA hearing what I say on the phone. As for only conservatives being able to voice their opinion, have you ever watched 10 minutes of TV in your life? TV is anti-bush, and pro anarchy. Get your historical facts right too, the Nazis would be considered liberals by today's standards. Clinton got by on luck, besides, Hitler lowered debt in Germany as well
Ok after this poorly thought out statement I do have to ask how old you are?
Khadgar
11-04-2006, 17:36
First off, only large gov'ts can govern large states.

Interesting, so since the number of government employees has massively jumped over the last 5 years our population must of jumped too eh? Explain to me why it's anyone's business what I look up on the internet, who I marry? The government, run by the conservatives appears to be deeply concerned. I think they should stop fretting about what is none of their concern and fire some folk so they can cut the defecit some.
Simple. As for the wiretapping, I have nothing to hide. AS long as my information is not released to the public, I have no problen with the NSA hearing what I say on the phone.So if the liberals were listening in on say, the RNC and tapping their phones to get champaign strategy information, that'd be alright? I mean, that's what you're saying

As for only conservatives being able to voice their opinion, have you ever watched 10 minutes of TV in your life? TV is anti-bush, and pro anarchy. No it's not, TV is driven by that great conservative dogma, anything for a buck. They sell the headlines that will get viewers.

Get your historical facts right too, the Nazis would be considered liberals by today's standards. Clinton got by on luck, besides, Hitler lowered debt in Germany as well Ah, Hitler, the raving anti-semite, anti-minority, anti-gay, compulsary military service, was a liberal. I never knew that.
Unabashed Greed
11-04-2006, 17:37
Ok after this poorly thought out statement I do have to ask how old you are?

My bet is that he's either 12 and on spring break, pissed off that he can't get any girls. Or, he 35 living in his mother's basement, pissed off that he can't get any girls.
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:38
First off, reducing debt is not an acomplishment, FDR saved the US by driving us INTO debt.
UpwardThrust
11-04-2006, 17:38
If you can't prove it, then don't sday anything as you are only supporting my argument
Not really ... he/she is only giving you the response your posts deserve

Post a joke ... we reply with jokes
UpwardThrust
11-04-2006, 17:39
First off, reducing debt is not an acomplishment, FDR saved the US by driving us INTO debt.
Please explain how?
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:39
Interesting, so since the number of government employees has massively jumped over the last 5 years our population must of jumped too eh? Explain to me why it's anyone's business what I look up on the internet, who I marry? The government, run by the conservatives appears to be deeply concerned. I think they should stop fretting about what is none of their concern and fire some folk so they can cut the defecit some.
So if the liberals were listening in on say, the RNC and tapping their phones to get champaign strategy information, that'd be alright? I mean, that's what you're saying

No it's not, TV is driven by that great conservative dogma, anything for a buck. They sell the headlines that will get viewers.

Ah, Hitler, the raving anti-semite, anti-minority, anti-gay, compulsary military service, was a liberal. I never knew that.
I believe there is a thread on this subject...
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:40
My bet is that he's either 12 and on spring break, pissed off that he can't get any girls. Or, he 35 living in his mother's basement, pissed off that he can't get any girls.
And that makes you...
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:41
Please explain how?
He created gov't agencies that we didn't really need, to provide jobs, increased military spending vastly, again to provide jobs, and subsidized many industries.
Unabashed Greed
11-04-2006, 17:42
And that makes you...

More witty than you ;)
Sol Giuldor
11-04-2006, 17:43
More witty than you ;)
My bet is that your either a Mc Donalds employee, or a burden on the welfare system
Khadgar
11-04-2006, 17:43
He created gov't agencies that we didn't really need, to provide jobs, increased military spending vastly, again to provide jobs, and subsidized many industries.
Because you know conservatives hate government handouts! Well, if they're not getting them.
Khadgar
11-04-2006, 17:45
Ad hominem attacks, the last bastion of the truely outgunned in a battle of wits.
Lolhandia
11-04-2006, 17:45
"I hate Bush, but..."

BUT?!! THERE ARE NO BUTS!! BUSH IS THE DEVIL! HE'S PURE EVIL! HE WANTS TO EAT THE HEARTS OF INFANT MINORITY CHILDREN AND ENSLAVE BLACKS AND SET MUSLIMS ON FIRE AND FORCE THEM TO LOOK AT UNCLOTHED FEMALE ANKLES AND DUMP TOXIC NUCLEAR SEWAGE IN OUR PRISTINE WATERWAYS AND TURN THE EARTH INTO A GIANT FESTERING POLLUTED SMOKING BALL OF USED GARBAGE AND TAKE AWAY A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO MURDER HER CHILD AND FORCE US ALL TO WORSHIP DEAD WHITE MALES AND FORCE MEXICANS TO CARRY LEGAL IDENTIFICATION AND CASTRATE GAYS AND IMPRISON THEM AND FORCE THEM TO WATCH ANDY SIDARIS MOVIES UNTIL THEIR EYEBALLS EXPLODE FROM ALL THE BOOBIES, AND HE'S EVIL! EEEEEEEEEEVIL! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVILLLLLLL!!!!!!!

*snap*

Woah! Dayum. I was temporarily possessed by the spirit of a DailyKos blogger. Wow, that was scary. Sorry about that, gang.
UpwardThrust
11-04-2006, 17:47
He created gov't agencies that we didn't really need, to provide jobs, increased military spending vastly, again to provide jobs, and subsidized many industries.
How is this good?

I mean I can understand how it was needed ... depending on the situation ... but unless we are in a simmilar situation how is it good


I mean in certian circumstances a hammer is good but that does not mean it is good for everything
Unabashed Greed
11-04-2006, 17:47
My bet is that your either a Mc Donalds employee, or a burden on the welfare system

Actually I'm a chef at a Zagat rated restaurant. You're in the right industry, just at the wrong end.

Right now, it's my day off, and I'm sitting at my computer, laughing at your ass.

Now it's your turn ;)
UpwardThrust
11-04-2006, 17:48
My bet is that your either a Mc Donalds employee, or a burden on the welfare system
Too specific ... might have been better going for fast food in general

Keep praticing ... that wit will sharpen over time
Delator
11-04-2006, 17:49
If you can't prove it, then don't sday anything as you are only supporting my argument

I didn't say anything regarding the views you have expressed...and saying nothing neither supports nor refutes your argument.

I was simply noting that you have reaffirmed my lack of faith in humanity

But thanks for playing...
Rotovia-
12-04-2006, 02:08
Back in my High School, its forbidden to bash Bush. That's when the nuns and the fathers bring out the rope and leather whips.
What Catholic supports Bush...?
Rotovia-
12-04-2006, 02:11
Well, then prove to me 1 good change liberals have made. You can't as they are all idiots
American Independence, emancipation, suffrage, civil rights movement, need I go on?
New Granada
12-04-2006, 02:54
I've noticed Bush-bashing has become an instituition of intellectuals.

I'm not sure if it's my Propositional Logic Proffessor using "There are terrorist in Iraq, therefore we must drop bombs on Iraq" as a fault conclusion for every second example.

Or if it's my Philosophy proffessor daring us to come up with a reason not to kill Bush.

Or my Law and Ethics proffessor detailing the fundemental flaws in pro-Gitmo arguement, in a lecture on immigration law.

Or the "FUCK BUSH" t-shirt on my English Lit proffessor.

I'm really not sure what has lead me to think Bush-bashing has replaced pot as the number one past-time for intellectuals


Well, bush represents the venomous anti-academic and anti-intellectual movement in the US, so its natural that intellectuals (the term used loosely, not every professor is really an intellectual, or at least not a worthwhile one) and academics loathe him.

It's actually very good that professors ground their ethics and logic courses in some of the most egregious and destructive violations of those fields in public policy today.
Marrakech II
12-04-2006, 03:20
You know I do find it funny that many more intelligencia hate Bush in the west than in the Muslim world itself. I read Arabic somewhat well. Actually take part in discussions in Arabic rooms on Paltalk to better my spoken Arabic other than from the wifey. I find that the Bush bashing is far far less than in the media of the westren world. Many like Bush rather alot. The media would label these people Republicans in the west. I wonder if the same shoe fits in the middle east? It is rather amazing you would think that Arabic people would hate him more than the so called intellectuals of the west. Maybe they know something they don't? Anyway that is just my observations.
Marrakech II
12-04-2006, 03:23
American Independence, emancipation, suffrage, civil rights movement, need I go on?

These were all with the help of so called Republicans. I would also say that the civil rights movement was a Republican victory. Rotovia just so you know that the left in America today is not the "left" of yesteryear. The left is really the far left in my opinion. Many are radicals at the least.
Marrakech II
12-04-2006, 03:25
Actually I'm a chef at a Zagat rated restaurant. You're in the right industry, just at the wrong end.

Right now, it's my day off, and I'm sitting at my computer, laughing at your ass.

Now it's your turn ;)
You a blue, yellow or red scarf kind of guy? Anyway I know these chefs can be paid very well.
Kinda Sensible people
12-04-2006, 04:30
These were all with the help of so called Republicans. I would also say that the civil rights movement was a Republican victory. Rotovia just so you know that the left in America today is not the "left" of yesteryear. The left is really the far left in my opinion. Many are radicals at the least.

You, sir, are suffering from dellusions. Anyone who lives under the foolish impression that America's left is at all like the far left is living in a fantasy world, or so far off to the right that all versions of left are out of perspective.

And Republicans earned the South by having less support for civil rights than the Dems. :rolleyes:
Aust
12-04-2006, 10:05
First off FDR pumped masses into public funding to restart the US econermy, organisations like the CCC, NRA and the TVA where all vital. You live in the Tensee vally? You have electricity? Thank FDR and the TVA for that. Before he came in the Vally was a dustbowl, no electricity, people scratching out a living on regually flooded land. Roosevelt tamed the river, created electricty, brought in lesure facilitys and now the regions thriving. It cost a lot of money but within 15 years it had cancelled that debt and was in the blue.

You went to schoolk, thank the CCC for that, most schools iN America-in fact almost everything-was buiolt by the CCC. using things like the CCC and the NRA Roosevelt cut unemployment by 12 million and got the econermy back to pre-depression levels.

So there one good thing a liberal didsaved America from Facism and communism. (Hyey Long, 'The radio Prest')

Being British I know what the liberals did for us-The NHS, Pensions, The Liberal reforms, The peoples budget, the welfare state, Unions. I also know what the conservatives did for us:

Thatcher.

Now which did better the Liberals, that introduced the reforms and helped this coutnry become a power, or the conservatives that ruined this country led by Mrs 'There is no Society' 'I know, lets ruin the coutnry' 'Civil rights, who cares about civil rights' Thatcher?

(Only 2 of those quotes are correct/)
Mariehamn
12-04-2006, 10:13
What Catholics supports Bush...?
"Moral" Catholics support Bush.
Real Catholics vote Democrat, or not at all. *nods*