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http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/04/10/italy.elections/index.html

What do people got against the right wing, anyway?

Italians change their government as often as some people change their socks. It means nothing. Unless you are CNN or the BBC, in which case you'll read something 'historic' into an election process you only dimly understand.

This could also mean a pull-out of Italian troops from Iraq. Leaving the US and the UK all by their lonesome... Ya know, this scenario (with some permutations, after all a total rip off would just make it look like a rerun) seems to be a repeat of another unpopular war that was fought in southeast asia... One that the GOP keeps insisting there is absolutely no comparison to.

Who wants to start a pool on how long it will take before the US is all alone in Iraq now?

From the article: "Berlusconi said observers were needed to prevent election fraud..."

I would have thought that the only fraud that they might find, would have been committed on behalf of Berlusconi.

i bet you by...10 am CST your title will be changed to something like well, Berlusconi's screwed

This could also mean a pull-out of Italian troops from Iraq. Leaving the US and the UK all by their lonesome... Ya know, this scenario (with some permutations, after all a total rip off would just make it look like a rerun) seems to be a repeat of another unpopular war that was fought in southeast asia... One that the GOP keeps insisting there is absolutely no comparison to.

Who wants to start a pool on how long it will take before the US is all alone in Iraq now?

The US won't be alone while John Howard is in power here.

The US won't be alone while John Howard is in power here.
Or blair here.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/04/10/italy.elections/index.html

What do people got against the right wing, anyway?
There's a difference between the right wing and corruption..

To be fair it looks like Berlusconi is going to control the upper house and if Prodi controls the lower house that means another election so it could be a lot worse for Berlusconi

as gataway driver said...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/italy/story/0,,1751421,00.html

Romano Prodi claims slender margin in the lower house
· Berlusconi clings onto control of upper house, with six seats pending
· 'Grand coalition' a possibility, with legislative deadlock beckoning

Italians are mad.

I blame it on the scooters

Heh-heh (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1727970632202126447&q=Berlusconi+bye+bye&pl=true):D

Heh-heh (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1727970632202126447&q=Berlusconi+bye+bye&pl=true):D
He ate it?!?! :eek:

He ate it?!?! :eek:

Think that's bad? There's a video where he pretends to hump a parking officer! :D can't find it though:(

EDIT: Got it! (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2365936237119418685&q=Berlusconi&pl=true)

Italians eat too many noodles... sad really

This is what happens when your country looks like a shoe :mp5:

Berslusconi is an idiot.

There's a difference between the right wing and corruption..

Not really, no.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/04/10/italy.elections/index.html

What do people got against the right wing, anyway?

First, let me enleighten you a bit:
It is a extremist right wing with fascists in it's goverment and parliaments. Does the the name Allesandra MUSSOLINI rings a bell?
Second, there is no independent press in Italy now, Berlusconi controlls ALL private channels and the small RAI. He fired all independent and even centre right journalists. Only the extreme right is in charge. A bit like the Texans in DC or the Stalin way in the USSR.
Third: Prodi is a (center) right winger that formed a coalition of center parties (DCR aso) and center left parties like the Italian SOC till left parties. Berlusconis parties are a mixed up of really right wingers till fascists, mostly bounded by corupcy and maffia links.

The real democratic right is on Prodi's side. Hell, the classic history is on again: the extreme right wing goverment of Berlusconi, with a absolute majority in both houses promissed to lower taxes and to cut in the number of bureaucrats. Like allways, the extremist right rised taxes, greased the number of bureacrats working for the state and created a worldrecord deficit (this goverment failed the obliged Maastricht standard since it's first year) and greased specially itself in doubling the income of its people in both houses, payed by taxpayers.

A classicTexan way like people say in the US.
Like most Italians say, "the goverment organised the election, so they are responsible for another failure in this long list, they tried to steal their own
election but it did not worked the Florida-way, we feel like liberated in WWII".

So now the new goverment will have to repair the damage done by those incapable persons that only enriched theirselves or their companies and made the taxpayer a more poor person. That is really classic, next time a new fascistoide rightwinger will accuse a centre goverment of being left because it needs taxes (will be on speculation and high incomes that enriched themselves now on the back of the average Italian) to repair the damage done by 5 years of criminal abuse and selfish enrichement on the taxpayers back.
According to the Italians, the worst thing besides all that is the destruction of the Italian culture by Berlusconi and his creation by propaganda of a gap between Italians themselves. Also they feel ashame because of the bad image he gave of Italy, the one of a banana republic.

One can only hope that the laws he created that made him safe for investigations of the Justice departement will be changed and brought back to a normal levell of democracy so that he will face his judges at last for all the corruption just like it has to be in a normal (Western) EU state.

Italians change their government as often as some people change their socks. It means nothing. Unless you are CNN or the BBC, in which case you'll read something 'historic' into an election process you only dimly understand.
Conveniently ignoring the fact that Berlusconi has been in power for 5 years?

Unfortunately.

This could also mean a pull-out of Italian troops from Iraq. Leaving the US and the UK all by their lonesome... Ya know, this scenario (with some permutations, after all a total rip off would just make it look like a rerun) seems to be a repeat of another unpopular war that was fought in southeast asia... One that the GOP keeps insisting there is absolutely no comparison to.

Who wants to start a pool on how long it will take before the US is all alone in Iraq now?

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/2/-/bush_debate_poland.jpg

Conveniently ignoring the fact that Berlusconi has been in power for 5 years?
Make that 12 years.

Make that 12 years.
Yeah, but I meant for the last 5 years...he hasn't been PM for 12 years.