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Anyway, my experience with Oblivion thus far has been awsome. I beleive I mentioned by Bosmer assassin in the other thread. Who says Hobbits cant work as hitmen? ;)
I know, Wood Elves arent hobbits. Hobbits WISH they were cannibalistic psychos.
Anyway, I have to say, the gem of Oblivions quests is the 'Whodunnit?' quest for the Dark Brotherhood.
Basically, the quest plays like the reality show Big Brother should have been. Five guests who wronged a client of the Brotherhood in some way are invited to a house where they think a chest of gold is hidden. Of course, there is no gold. There is only you ;)
Anyway, your goal is to assassinate all of the guests without them finding out that you are the killer. The house you are in is locked, but the screaming might attract attention.
So, I set about my merry way and arived in Skingrad (the town where the quest is located), made my way to the house and was greeted by what is, quite possibly, the most stereotypical old woman ever. She reminded me of Crassus Curio, only less perverted. At least you dont have to take your pants off for her.
Anyway, her condescending manner earned her the honour of being the first victim.
Problem is, she doesnt leave the bottom floor. Ever.
Theres two other guys down there, a Dark Elf female and an Imperial guy, who are apparently in love. Touching. Anyway, I finnaly managed to get here into a corner facing away from me, whereupon I sliced her open with a katana :P
The reaction amoung the residents was interesting. The Nord fellow upstairs began to horde alchahol and drink more, the Redguard donned his armour and the lovers were glad the old baggage was dead. Apparently she had been harrassing them both.
Next up was the redguard. I waited until he was sleeping to hit him, since that armour would mean I would have to hit him more than once, which means I wouldnt get my bonus.
This was a close call, because just as I finished him off, the dark elf barges into the room.
Since I was freinds with the Imperial, I went to talk to him before finishing off the elf. Much to my suprise, he immidiatly lept to the conclusion that his girlfriend was the assassin, and threw her down the stairs...well...punched her until she fell down the stairs.
I spoke to him again, he made a speech about, 'Thank the Gods, its over!', whereupon I snuck up behind him and decapitated him.
Turned out the bonus wasnt so awsome, but the quest pwned.

Any other stories?

Yeah its a good game im playing a Khajet (mispelled) assassin and also a Imperial Healer. Im playing through it very slowly though visiting every dungeon/cave i come across. But it is a great game! I jsut delivered Martin to the red cloud fort

What's Oblivion?

What's Oblivion?
The Hell of The Elder Scrolls. Sort of.
Its divided up for each of the Daedric (demons, basically) Princes, and the planes vary wildly. The Prince of Destruction's plane (the one you visit) is a bunch of islands surrounded by laval full of mutilated corpses and assorted demons who try to kill you.
The realm of Azura, one of the 'good' Daedric princes, is somewhat like heaven, described in a book as 'a huge field, surrounding a silver city so buetiful that I am half blinded by it.'. One of them is an endless library, one is a sort of void full of ash.

What's Oblivion?

A fun, MSPRPG.

Is this an online game or a console game? And uh, where could I find it?

I have a funny story!

Once upon a time I had this cool friend, who has been dubbed "Mr. Face." (Yes my friends and I call him that.) Mr. Face was just like you and me. He lived, he loved, he just enjoyed life.

But one day, he told me, "I can't believe it! Oblivion comes out the day after Spring Break ends!" "Oblivian?" I scoffed. "I've never even heard of it!" Mr. Face then proceeded to tell me how great it was going to be, with the phsyics engine and the graphics etc.

But then one day, he actually got his hands on the game. Between Friday afternoon and Saturday afternoon, he and his older brother spent all their waking hours on this day, and Mr. Face told me that was about 14 hours for him. In one weekend.

Now I say "Why Mr. Face, it's lovely weather we're having today, would you mind joining me for a cup of tea?" He responds, "No thanks, I think I'll play more Oblivion today."

Alas, his fate is sealed. He shall play this game until he whithers away and dies.

Ahahaha, threw her down the stairs, ahahahahahaha

Not that domestic violence is funny.

Ahahaha, threw her down the stairs, ahahahahahaha

Not that domestic violence is funny.
She fell, honestly. The massive gashes that appear to be from a katana are actually from the railings.

What's Oblivion?
A fun game. Or at least what would be if my computer could run it.
Well, actually, it can, but the graphics look wrong.

About the most disappointing game I've had "pleasure" to play in the last few years. It would be amusing that all the hype and expectation was so far away from what was actually produced if this wasn't the latest game in a series that actually had a lot of promise once upon a time.

It's an okay game, I suppose, if you ignore the horrendous voice-acting, the terrible animations, the awful, awful console interface, the cliched setting and the boring main story, the unjustifiable spec. requirements for what you get in terms of graphics and performance and you also ignore the fact that it's part of a series and refrain from comparing it to its ancestors. Mediocre, but not totally without merit. So it's okay sandbox game. Crappy RPG, though, if it even the deserves the title "RPG" at all.

About the most disappointing game I've had "pleasure" to play in the last few years. It would be amusing that all the hype and expectation was so far away from what was actually produced if this wasn't the latest game in a series that actually had a lot of promise once upon a time.

It's an okay game, I suppose, if you ignore the horrendous voice-acting, the terrible animations, the awful, awful console interface, the cliched setting and the boring main story, the unjustifiable spec. requirements for what you get in terms of graphics and performance and you also ignore the fact that it's part of a series and refrain from comparing it to its ancestors. Mediocre, but not totally without merit. So it's okay sandbox game. Crappy RPG, though, if it even the deserves the title "RPG" at all.

You're a tiny minority, you know that, right? Oblivion is the awesomest awesome.

About the most disappointing game I've had "pleasure" to play in the last few years. It would be amusing that all the hype and expectation was so far away from what was actually produced if this wasn't the latest game in a series that actually had a lot of promise once upon a time.

It's an okay game, I suppose, if you ignore the horrendous voice-acting, the terrible animations, the awful, awful console interface, the cliched setting and the boring main story, the unjustifiable spec. requirements for what you get in terms of graphics and performance and you also ignore the fact that it's part of a series and refrain from comparing it to its ancestors. Mediocre, but not totally without merit. So it's okay sandbox game. Crappy RPG, though, if it even the deserves the title "RPG" at all.
you have been playig too many of those japenese RPG. Those are the ones that don't deserve tobe called RPGs, because thsir just excessively linear games wher you find yourself with another character with spiky hair and a mysterious past.

When I try to run oblivion, and I am in the jail at the beginning, I cannot see anything except for gray walls and white everywheres.

If you can't run Oblivion I suggest you try Mount & Blade (http://www.taleworlds.com/)...

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If you can't run Oblivion I suggest you try Mount & Blade (http://www.taleworlds.com/)...

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I can run oblivion. it just doesnt look right. also, what is mount and blade?

Making custom spells and enchanting items is fun. Give yourself 100% chameleon on items and you're basically in God Mode, nothing can see you, ever. Made a fire/lightning ball spell that exploded on impact, it's fun to blast a mob's feet and watch them go flying through the air, sometimes they bounce off ceilings indoors, which is extra fun 'cause they rebound into the ground REALLY hard. One oblivion gate I closed, blasted one of the deadroth so hard he flew into the central pit. Also fun to blast them into lava. If you make the explosion blast area large enough you can kill through walls. It's also deeply amusing to me to blast everything off shelves in houses/guildhalls.

The quests are fun, but they end up losing a certain amusement past a certain point, I don't care for the Dark Brotherhood quests once you start getting them from Lucien, theif quests start to suck once you get them from the Grey Fox, Mage quests once you get them from Traven.

Oh, careful with AE spells, accidentally hit my unicorn with one, damn he hit hard! I couldn't yeild to him because he was kickin my ass when I was blocking, had to kill the poor thing.

If you can't run Oblivion I suggest you try Mount & Blade (http://www.taleworlds.com/)...

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Mount and Blade is great. I wish Oblivion had the same combat system. Then it'd be the best game ever, bar nothing.

Mmmh, horse archery.

You're a tiny minority, you know that, right? Oblivion is the awesomest awesome.

The sophisticated and intelligent in any population are always going to be in the minority. We wouldn't be the elite, otherwise. :p

We old school TES fans who still remember Daggerfall are in the minority of TES players these days as well. Most of us seem to have given up on the series in disgust with Morrowind.

you have been playig too many of those japenese RPG. Those are the ones that don't deserve tobe called RPGs, because thsir just excessively linear games wher you find yourself with another character with spiky hair and a mysterious past.

I don't play J-RPGs. In fact, I don't play post-SNES-era console games at all. I'm a PC snob, these days. You're right, I don't think J-RPGs are really RPGs either, they're adventure games. But just because I don't think adventure games like J-RPGs are true RPGs doesn't mean I regard twitchy FP sandbox games like the latest TES game as RPGs either.

If you want a decent cRPG, try Fallout, Planescape: Torment, Darklands, Prelude to Darkness or Ultima 7. Even Daggerfall or Avernum and to a lesser extent, the PC Baldur's Gate games and Fallout 2.

Edit: Don't mind me, though, I'm just a cynical cRPGer disappointed with the Hollywood mentally of the industry and the mass-audience garbage being pawned off as RPGs these days.

Thank the gaming gods for indy developers.

The sophisticated and intelligent in any population are always going to be in the minority. We wouldn't be the elite, otherwise. :p

We old school TES fans who still remember Daggerfall are in the minority of TES players these days as well. Most of us seem to have given up on the series in disgust with Morrowind.

I do...

...still wish I could get it running on this machine...

I still enjoy Oblivion though...probably more so than Morrowind, but definitely not as much as Daggerfall. Come to think of it, scratch my earlier post - a modern day Daggerfall with Mount and Blade's combat system would be the best ever.

If you want a decent cRPG, try Fallout, Planescape: Torment, Darklands, Prelude to Darkness or Ultima 7. Even Daggerfall or Avernum and to a lesser extent, the PC Baldur's Gate games and Fallout 2.

Awesome list! (Yay - another Ultima fan.)

And add to that list Ultima Underworld, ADOM and Nethack.

edit - And Arcanum wasn't bad either.

I do...

...still wish I could get it running on this machine...

I still enjoy Oblivion though...probably more so than Morrowind, but definitely not as much as Daggerfall. Come to think of it, scratch my earlier post - a modern day Daggerfall with Mount and Blade's combat system would be the best ever.


I dunno. Ive never played Daggerfall.

I do...

...still wish I could get it running on this machine...

I still enjoy Oblivion though...probably more so than Morrowind, but definitely not as much as Daggerfall. Come to think of it, scratch my earlier post - a modern day Daggerfall with Mount and Blade's combat system would be the best ever.

There are a whole lot of hoops to jump through to get Daggerfall running on a modern machine. managed it after a fair amount of screwing around. It's not the most stable game, but it was never exactly the most stable of games to begin with.

There were certain things that they improved from Morrowind to Oblivion, but there were things that went backwards too. Neither of them come close to Daggerfall, though. There was true ambition and risk-taking in that game, the Bethesda team of the day really aimed high. They didn't always make it, but you can tell when you play it that they really poured their hearts into trying. The current team is seemingly content with the status quo of gaming even sacrificing mainstay TES gameplay for the sake of gimmicks and sales. But this is what happens when you have the bean counters and executive suits dictating content to the developers. Having Microsoft with its fingers so deep in the pie doesn't help either.

I was keeping abreast of Oblivion during development, so I wasn't really expecting it to be a much of an RPG, but what put the last nail in its coffin, for me at least, was that when I played it, it wasn't even the wondrous technical masterpiece it was declared to be. Most of the whiz-bang wicked-cool technical features the PR department was ranting about pre-release were either simply disappointing and meaningless, or so haphazardly put together that they became an irritation. And then there's the travesty of the interface. That is all the evidence you need to show you that "multi-platform development" is a farce; it's a console port.



Awesome list! (Yay - another Ultima fan.)

And add to that list Ultima Underworld, ADOM and Nethack.

Mmmm, yeah, I like Underworld as well. I would also put Ultima's 5 and 6 on the list, but 7 is the cream of the Ultima crop. The top-level roguelikes go without saying, I think.

There are a whole lot of hoops to jump through to get Daggerfall running on a modern machine. managed it after a fair amount of screwing around. It's not the most stable game, but it was never exactly the most stable of games to begin with.

I'm pretty confident that I would be able to get it running in Dosbox - that's how I play Darklands and the Ultima games. Problem is, I need to install it, and Dosbox won't let me write to the hard drive - and the installer won't even run without dosbox on a 64 bit processor.

Although I just realised, I have an old Celeron machine stored away in the closet. I guess i'll give that a run with Windows 98 later.

There were certain things that they improved from Morrowind to Oblivion, but there were things that went backwards too. Neither of them come close to Daggerfall, though. There was true ambition and risk-taking in that game, the Bethesda team of the day really aimed high. They didn't always make it, but you can tell when you play it that they really poured their hearts into trying. The current team is seemingly content with the status quo of gaming even sacrificing mainstay TES gameplay for the sake of gimmicks and sales. But this is what happens when you have the bean counters and executive suits dictating content to the developers. Having Microsoft with its fingers so deep in the pie doesn't help either.

That's true enough - the pay-for-plugins idea annoyed me a lot. Who knows, though - some disgruntled Bethseda employees might break away and form their own company and make a true sequel, if not in name. I'm not sure if you're into strategy games, but if you are, look what Sid Meier did with Alpha Centauri. Failing that, there might be some free plugins developed in the future that let it shine a bit more.

Mmmm, yeah, I like Underworld as well. I would also put Ultima's 5 and 6 on the list, but 7 is the cream of the Ultima crop. The top-level roguelikes go without saying, I think.

I like pretty much all of the Ultima games - 4, 5, and 6 were good fun, and I even liked no.8...although it wasn't much of an RPG, it wasn't a bad game taken on its own. (Haven't played no. 9) Ultima VII (plus Serpent Isle) stands as one of the best games ever created for PC though, and it's a shame that it now seems to be fairly obscure. :(


(Oh, and i'd encourage anyone posting into this thread to head here (www.adom.de) and download ADOM. It's a masterpiece of gameplay, and freeware to boot.)

Oblivion is awesome.

I'm somewhat disappointed that hand-to-hand combat was nerfed, and that all the special abilities you gain by leveling up blade/h2h/blunt/etc are all the same. Not just that, but they completely removed unarmored alltogether. I like the combat, though - way improved from Morrowind.

I became giddy when I heard there was an arena, as I always do when I hear there's an arena in an rpg game. I'm not sure what I was expecting, though, because the difficulty was slightly less than "normal", though I saw no reason to make it harder than needed (to the point of annoyance and nothing more) if I'm not gonna get more exp or anything for fighting harder monsters. It's simply a case of how many times I use a skill, not so much what I use it on. That's something I disliked about Morrowind, and I try not to think about it on Oblivion.

I kind of dislike the fact that there's thieves guild and dark brotherhood on the darkness side, the fighter and mages guilds for specialization, yet there's no "good" or "holy" guild/side thing you can join and do an assload of quests for. It's either be metiocre and stay on the main quest line and do fighter/mage quests, or be an evil person while stealing and killing. Seems off-balance.

I kind of dislike the fact that there's thieves guild and dark brotherhood on the darkness side, the fighter and mages guilds for specialization, yet there's no "good" or "holy" guild/side thing you can join and do an assload of quests for. It's either be metiocre and stay on the main quest line and do fighter/mage quests, or be an evil person while stealing and killing. Seems off-balance.

Hm, well, I always saw the Fighters and Mages guilds as "good", so eh.

I haven't really played far into the Thieves guild quests, but they seem to be more of a "robin hood" type organisation rather than "evil".

Hm, well, I always saw the Fighters and Mages guilds as "good", so eh.

I haven't really played far into the Thieves guild quests, but they seem to be more of a "robin hood" type organisation rather than "evil".


Yeah, that's true. Though there's really no "Hi, we're angels! We save people and everything around here is good and holy-looking. If you do enough missions we can turn you into a saint (good equivalent of vampire or something along those lines)!" guild.

There's fighters and mages which are slightly above neutral, and thieves which are, as you said, the robin hoods, which could be classified best as "chaotic good". It's not holy by any means, they're just well-meaning people looking to equal out the system a bit.

Then there's the dark brotherhood, which is incredibly evil. You kill people and worship some kind of dark lord, and eventually you can become a vampire. It's about as evil as you can possibly get without becoming the dark lord himself (which you probably can't do in this game).

Point is, there's no equivalent to the dark brotherhood.

There's no reason to think the vampires in the game are evil per se either. Look at the count of Skingrad, he's not exactly a saint, but he seems quite defensive of his people. Hell vamps don't even kill people, I've been a vampire, you can't kill people by biting.

They're still, by default of worshipping a dark lord, evil.

Yeah, that's true. Though there's really no "Hi, we're angels! We save people and everything around here is good and holy-looking. If you do enough missions we can turn you into a saint (good equivalent of vampire or something along those lines)!" guild.

There's fighters and mages which are slightly above neutral, and thieves which are, as you said, the robin hoods, which could be classified best as "chaotic good". It's not holy by any means, they're just well-meaning people looking to equal out the system a bit.

Then there's the dark brotherhood, which is incredibly evil. You kill people and worship some kind of dark lord, and eventually you can become a vampire. It's about as evil as you can possibly get without becoming the dark lord himself (which you probably can't do in this game).

Point is, there's no equivalent to the dark brotherhood.

Meh, i've never been one for paladin type characters anyway. Boring, IMO. :p

Basically, if you wanted to be a crusader for good, you probably wouldn't do it for profit anyway, and you'd run around helping little old ladies with all of their menial quests. You wouldn't really need a guild, unless like you said, you get some sort of special bonus, like holy powers or something.

All of the Elder Scroll games are awesome. Even Arena, which may seem sucky now, for it's day 'twas pretty awesome. Daggerfall is the best of the series (Maybe if they re-made it with modern day technology it would be the greatest game of all time), Morrowind was pretty good, and Oblivion is better than Morrowind but not as great as Daggerfall.

Meh, i've never been one for paladin type characters anyway. Boring, IMO. :p

Yeah, in an MMO paladins are crap. I'm not talking about MMO's, and I'm not talking about paladins.

I'm talking about, essentially, a warrior or rogue or barbarian, with his armor and weapons blessed and adding holy damage with badass special effects when he hits something evil (mostly everything in the game).

I'm talking about someone who gets stronger during the day and weaker during the night (to equivalate vampires) and the more people he heals from wounds not inflicted by his own actions, the stronger he becomes.

If need be then go ahead and make an even more evil version of a vampire - be, like, a Daedra warrior or something. I dunno.

All of the Elder Scroll games are awesome. Even Arena, which may seem sucky now, for it's day 'twas pretty awesome. Daggerfall is the best of the series (Maybe if they re-made it with modern day technology it would be the greatest game of all time), Morrowind was pretty good, and Oblivion is better than Morrowind but not as great as Daggerfall.
I think they should try to make one thats better then daggerfall.

Yeah, in an MMO paladins are crap. I'm not talking about MMO's, and I'm not talking about paladins.

I'm talking about, essentially, a warrior or rogue or barbarian, with his armor and weapons blessed and adding holy damage with badass special effects when he hits something evil (mostly everything in the game).

I'm talking about someone who gets stronger during the day and weaker during the night (to equivalate vampires) and the more people he heals from wounds not inflicted by his own actions, the stronger he becomes.

If need be then go ahead and make an even more evil version of a vampire - be, like, a Daedra warrior or something. I dunno.

That's an interesting idea. I like that.

That's an interesting idea. I like that.

That's what Modding is for!

That's what Modding is for!

Yeah, but ideas like that are great until you realise that you have no practical skill to bring them to fruition. :p

Yeah, but ideas like that are great until you realise that you have no practical skill to bring them to fruition. :p

There are loads of people with too much time on their hands :D Just look at the abundance of nude patches everywhere and you'll get the idea.

There are loads of people with too much time on their hands :D Just look at the abundance of nude patches everywhere and you'll get the idea.

True that. :D

(actually, I heard that Bethseda actually include the nude models in the original code, but leave it for people to "unlock")

True that. :D

(actually, I heard that Bethseda actually include the nude models in the original code, but leave it for people to "unlock")

Olol. "Hot Coffee" Oblivion.


Seriously, though, is it possible to mod to the point to where you could add in an entirely new character class like I described?

You can already make completely custom classes, though the other stuff would take some doin.

Olol. "Hot Coffee" Oblivion.


Seriously, though, is it possible to mod to the point to where you could add in an entirely new character class like I described?

Sure, I don't see why not - i imagine that the files containing that data are seperate and easily accessed. I don't know for sure, though. You'd probably need a buddy that knows programming.

I'm pretty confident that I would be able to get it running in Dosbox - that's how I play Darklands and the Ultima games. Problem is, I need to install it, and Dosbox won't let me write to the hard drive - and the installer won't even run without dosbox on a 64 bit processor.

Although I just realised, I have an old Celeron machine stored away in the closet. I guess i'll give that a run with Windows 98 later.

Yeah, it's much easier to just use an old rig than try to get DOSBox or VDMSound running old games on a modern machine. I've got an old 500Mhz K6-2 box with Win98 that runs Daggerfall natively like a dream. The main reason I set it up on my primary machine was to prove I could do it without DOSBox :p


That's true enough - the pay-for-plugins idea annoyed me a lot. Who knows, though - some disgruntled Bethseda employees might break away and form their own company and make a true sequel, if not in name. I'm not sure if you're into strategy games, but if you are, look what Sid Meier did with Alpha Centauri. Failing that, there might be some free plugins developed in the future that let it shine a bit more.

Pay-to-play is the way of the future, apparently, even for single player games. It starts with little gimmicky plug-ins, but give it a few years and we'll have full episodic content, where you buy a boxed retail client for the game, then have to pay to download the actual game content. OMG, what a cliffhanger! Will your generic knight guy survive the horrible demon attack? JUST $15 TO FIND OUT!!! Mark my prophetic words! It shall come to pass!

A Troika-esque (is Tim Cain possibly a demi-god of some kind?) break away company would be nice, but almost none of the Daggerfall team are still at Bethesda. Still, it'd nice if they all got together and formed a company of their own, though. They'd be hard pressed to find a VC for the sort of games I imagine they'd want to produce, however.



I like pretty much all of the Ultima games - 4, 5, and 6 were good fun, and I even liked no.8...although it wasn't much of an RPG, it wasn't a bad game taken on its own. (Haven't played no. 9) Ultima VII (plus Serpent Isle) stands as one of the best games ever created for PC though, and it's a shame that it now seems to be fairly obscure. :(


I agree with you on Ultima 8. It wasn't bad exactly, but it was a pretty substantial step down from Ultima 7. Ultima 9 is the disgusting, loathsome pond scum floating upon the pure, clean water of the previous Ultima series (with some of it's loathsomeness seeping into it's immediate predecessor, it seems). I suggest you forget it was ever made and resist any profane urge to play it that you might have.

I think they should try to make one thats better then daggerfall.

Looking at the general direction of the gaming industry and, in particular, at the direction TES, that's just not going to happen.

Barring some kind of Night of the Long Knives at Bethesda followed by a violent secession from Zenimax, anyway.

Looking at the general direction of the gaming industry and, in particular, at the direction TES, that's just not going to happen.

Barring some kind of Night of the Long Knives at Bethesda followed by a violent secession from Zenimax, anyway.

So it's a Nacht der langen Messer you want, eh? I'm sure I can think of some way for that to happen...

So it's a Nacht der langen Messer you want, eh? I'm sure I can think of some way for that to happen...

Yeah, I think Todd Howard is an ideal candidate for the role of Ernst Roehm.

We old school TES fans who still remember Daggerfall are in the minority of TES players these days as well. Most of us seem to have given up on the series in disgust with Morrowind.

Oh please. Daggerfall's only claim to fame was that it's world was twice the size of Great Britain.

The shop I preordered a copy 3 weeks ago, on the promise it'll be there within the week, from finally got it in this week.
I got my hot little hands on it and have taken it home. Where it'll stay in it's box for the next two weeks, as I'm now going off to Tibet for that time.
Arghhh! Am I ever going to get to play this game!?!

The shop I preordered a copy 3 weeks ago, on the promise it'll be there within the week, from finally got it in this week.
I got my hot little hands on it and have taken it home. Where it'll stay in it's box for the next two weeks, as I'm now going off to Tibet for that time.
Arghhh! Am I ever going to get to play this game!?!

I'm sure someone in Tibet has an extreme gaming rig that you could play Oblivion on :D

Oh please. Daggerfall's only claim to fame was that it's world was twice the size of Great Britain.

Ahhh, so you've never played it, then.

I'm sure someone in Tibet has an extreme gaming rig that you could play Oblivion on :D
Did think about taking it, but the village I'm going to, there's not even a toilet, let alone power so it's prob unlikely.
So all I can say is: Damn!
When I come back, I'll start playing, get hooked but when I mention it to anyone all I'll get is rolleyeyes and "huh, Oblivion? That's so passe. It was cool a month ago. Where have you been?"

Okay, I excepted a quest from this woman in Bravil. She said her husband was missing and it was because of a gambling problem and he kept borrowing money from an ork. So I went to see the ork and he told me that if I found his family heirloom he'd return her husband. The family heirloom was located on Fort Greif. I arrived (found out her husband was there and that the whole thing was a trap set up by the ork so that he could get money from people who wanted to hunt humans) and beat all the human-hunters inside the fort. I go back to the beginning to get her husband and the second I exit the fort I cannot move. I can look around, but I cannot access my inventory, wave my sword around, or take a single step. I wanted to know if this was supposed to happen or if I missed something or if this was just a glitch. Thanks!

Speaking of glitches, why take them out? They were fun to use, but some need to be fixed. I was playing the ending of the main quest and Martin died, so I had to start over at the last save point. I did it again, and he died again only this time, the moment he died, I walked through the door and it auto saved. Meaning that I cannot complete the main quest now.:(

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Pushed her down the stairs? Pfft. I took 'em all with the good 'ole bow. Got the elf chick to go up and wait for someone, shot her, waited 'til the soldier went to bed, shot him, hid behind a corner 'til the old woman showed up, shot her, made the Norse guy (you know whom I'm talking about, forget the race name) to kill the brat then shot the norse guy. No pushing what-so-ever.

I bought Daggerfall when it first came out. I was hooked and played it for months. When Morrowind came out I upgraded my PC in order to play it. I was initially disappointed as, graphics apart, there seemed to be so much less depth to your characters life and the world around him.

You could no longer get a bank account (no banks) or buy a house (no banks). Many guilds had disappeared (no Knights guilds while the various Mage guilds and Temples had been narrowed down to one of each). Apart from lighting effects there was no difference between the world at night and day (I liked the different opening and closing times for shops and guilds ... it added a bit of realism while giving the opportunity for some decent thieving). Dungeons were huge compared to Morrowind and there seemed to be more of them.

Most importantly, you got all that depth in a game but ONLY needed 8MB of RAM and P60 chip to run it all. I upgraded to 16MB and it ran like a dream. I couldn't understand why the developers of Morrowind had created a game which offered so much less than Daggerfall but required a far more powerful machine to run it. Obviously graphics accounted for most if not all of it, but I would have accepted much lower graphics if it meant the depth of Daggerfall was retained.

Having said that, I got majorly into Morrowind, completed the main quest, the Nord Bloodmoon quest and got a fair way through the Tribunal add-on before getting stuck in some room that kept turning out lizard creatures from a door (most frustrating).

Disappointingly, Oblivion has carried on the dumbing down process. The graphics are incredible but, as I implied before, so what? No doubt I will get into as much as I did Morrowind though.

PS What a load of sh*te Battlespire was. Sold under false pretenses as far as I was concerned.

About the most disappointing game I've had "pleasure" to play in the last few years. It would be amusing that all the hype and expectation was so far away from what was actually produced if this wasn't the latest game in a series that actually had a lot of promise once upon a time.

It's an okay game, I suppose, if you ignore the horrendous voice-acting, the terrible animations, the awful, awful console interface, the cliched setting and the boring main story, the unjustifiable spec. requirements for what you get in terms of graphics and performance and you also ignore the fact that it's part of a series and refrain from comparing it to its ancestors. Mediocre, but not totally without merit. So it's okay sandbox game. Crappy RPG, though, if it even the deserves the title "RPG" at all.
The answer is mods, my friend. Just like it was in Morrowind.

You can:
- get rid of the console-like interface
- get a more PC-friendly inventory and map
- get rid of the 'persuasion' mini-game (wich really spoils the RP part of persuasion)
- get darker nights and dungeons
- have your character be fatigued by running
- have your character require food and sleep
- get the unarmored skill
- adjust the screwy leveling up of both yourself and your foes
- change the speed time pass in the world
- remove the RP spoiling quest markers and compass notifications
- disable fast travel (in several ways)
- get mods that enrich the enviroment with both NPC's and creatures both malicious and neutral
- get access to banks

...and so on and so forth.

You can also get a program called Tweaper to help with the graphics adjustment so you can get the most out of what your computer can handle.


I suggest starting to look at this page.
http://users.adelphia.net/~amito/Oblivion/OB-mods.htm

If you guys want more tips on good mods, I can list some more. :)

Olol. "Hot Coffee" Oblivion.

The naked textures were put in with all the other, oh, about 1,000,000 textures, which you had to unzip individually in order to fing the skin, and I don't beleive it showed nipples, just greenish diamonds where they would be. The purpose of these textures, and yes, they did have a purpose, was so that when a female character put on a shirt the bra texture wouldn't stick out. The ESRB said the rating change (from T to M) wasn't because of the nudity, but becauuse Bethesda didn't reveal their full product. Which of course, they did, but the ESRB just scanned the game and didn't see anything questionable. Then some 28 year old computer nerd living in his parent's house got caught looking at fake boobies on a game by his parents, who yelled at the ESRB. and you have to go on the internet for instructions for unlocking the titties, and guess what? If you're on the internet anyways...... well..... there's actual titties there......

Not as Good as Morrowind, the Elder Scrolls III. That game had a creepy and weird atmosphere and a wonderful modding community. I had a character with over a thousand hours of play on it.
The dumbed down Oblivion for mass consumption me thinks. The setting is just a typical fantasy realm, there are less skills, and after a certain point there’s no challenge anymore.
My character in Oblivion could pretty much go from one end of the continant to the next and kill everything in site. I could never do that in Morrowind.

Not to mention, the main quest sucks in Oblivion compared to Morrowind.

This thread almost wants to make me reinstall Morrowind, the expansions and go hunt down all my favorite mods... almost.