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Yes, yet another fucking one of these. Oh well. Peoples music tastes change over time! Just post your favorite bands/singers! Oh, and for those of you who went with me on that last little "thread adventure", just forget about it, ok?

Mine: Coldplay, Modest Mouse, Death Cab For Cutie, The Postal Service, System Of A Down, Interpol, Nightwish, She Wants Revenge, Evanesence (SP?)

Come on people, post!

People who frequent these sorts of threads know what I'm going to say, so I might as well not bother.

You've not got such a bad list yourself. If you take Coldplay out, I'd say it was good.

Should mention:
Secret Machines, Oceansize, Capdown, Muse, Radiohead, VNV Nation, Tool, A Perfect Circle, Pure Reason Revolution, Sigur Rós.

Muse, Radiohead, A Perfect Circle,
Listen to them all. They just aren't my "favorites".

I would post but I V Stalin insults me. :confused:

I would post but I V Stalin insults me. :confused:
How?

I would post but I V Stalin insults me. :confused:
Not directly. I was just saying that Morning Runner are shit in another thread.

Let's see... Pantera (RIP Dime etc. yadda-yadda), Slayer, Black Label Society, Tiamat, Velvet Revolver...
And i don't have favorite singers, just favorite screamers :p

Cohizzle and Cambizzle.

Nick Carter and JC Sachez!

Iron Maiden, Epica, Nightwish, After Forever, Evanesence, Shakira, Meat Loaf and random stuff.

Radiohead, Sigur Rós, Broken Social Scene, Oceansize, Gomez, Foo Fighters, Weezer, the Smashing Pumpkins, Mogwai, Nirvana, QOTSA, Snow Patrol, The White Stripes....

There's a selection, anyway.

Radiohead, Sigur Rós, Broken Social Scene, Oceansize, Gomez, Foo Fighters, Weezer, the Smashing Pumpkins, Mogwai, Nirvana, QOTSA, Snow Patrol, The White Stripes....

There's a selection, anyway.
You didn't mention -you know who- on purpose! :p

You didn't mention -you know who- on purpose! :p

Hehe, yeah, I thought I should probably mention a few other bands I like for a change :p

Not directly. I was just saying that Morning Runner are shit in another thread.
But they're brilliant! :O

But they're brilliant! :O
:rolleyes:

Go listen to something the radio hasn't told you to listen to.

Well, I've already made my opinion on the matter pretty clear elsewhere.

A random selection

Within Temptation, Nightwish, Leaves Eyes, Our Lady Peace, 30 seconds to Mars, Helloween and other things of that general sound

Cohizzle and Cambizzle.
I would have never have pegged you for a coheed fan...

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:rolleyes:

Go listen to something the radio hasn't told you to listen to.

But I don't even listen to the radio or watch the hits...


...my cousin told me to listen to them and I think they're fantastic.

In no partcular order, some of my faves:
Aerosmith, Garbage, Alice In Chains, Greenwich Meantime, Depeche Mode

and this was back in February. I'm just wondering why there's a problem with listening to music on the radio though... seeing as you clearly do.

Emperor
Dimmu Borgir
Old Man's Child

Those be the top three.

These are mine in no purposeful order:

AC/DC
Badly Drawn Boy
Blur
Boston
The Clash
The Cure
The Sex Pistols
The Ramones
David Bowie
Rancid
Green Day
Good Charlotte
R.E.M.
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Kaiser Chiefs
Linkin Park
The Pixies
We Are Scientists
Slipknot
The Proclaimers
The Counting Crows

I think that's about it...

and this was back in February. I'm just wondering why there's a problem with listening to music on the radio though... seeing as you clearly do.
Because most of it's crap, and those who listen to it will generally only listen to what they hear there. Sheep, the lot of them. They're the reason Jame Blunt managed to sell 5 million of his sodding album, not because he's actually got any talent.

I would have never have pegged you for a coheed fan...

HUGE fan. I was just at their show in Providence on Saturday.

Because most of it's crap, and those who listen to it will generally only listen to what they hear there. Sheep, the lot of them. They're the reason Jame Blunt managed to sell 5 million of his sodding album, not because he's actually got any talent.
Here's my question: Why do people get so excited about what music they listen to, and why are they so quick to put down other people's music? Does it really matter in the scheme of things what music we listen to? How does someone else's music affect you, that warrants this outburst of anger?

Me, I like Black Flag, Minor Threat, the Dead Kennedys, the Meat Puppets...and some Beatles(60% of their output is crap)

Because most of it's crap, and those who listen to it will generally only listen to what they hear there. Sheep, the lot of them. They're the reason Jame Blunt managed to sell 5 million of his sodding album, not because he's actually got any talent.

I agree with you on that front, James Blunt is a piece of crap.

Because most of it's crap, and those who listen to it will generally only listen to what they hear there. Sheep, the lot of them. They're the reason Jame Blunt managed to sell 5 million of his sodding album, not because he's actually got any talent.
http://www.aol.de/content/Contentview_Artikel/121324417_1125671749525.jpg

he looks like a twat and all...

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Not really my top, but what I've listened to in terms of non-downloaded music lately.

Otherwise Bad Religion, Pennywise, Protest the Hero, Inside Out, and others would be joining them.

Well, I've already made my opinion on the matter pretty clear elsewhere.

Not to poke holes in your protest of modern music or anything, but I'd guess you'd probably like most progressive, progressive metal, and symphonic metal (if you could ever get past a mental block), as most of it is even more complex than non solo classical work.

Here's my question: Why do people get so excited about what music they listen to, and why are they so quick to put down other people's music? Does it really matter in the scheme of things what music we listen to? How does someone else's music affect you, that warrants this outburst of anger?

Me, I like Black Flag, Minor Threat, the Dead Kennedys, the Meat Puppets...and some Beatles(60% of their output is crap)
Ok, the music that I'm putting down here (Morning Runner) isn't actually crap. It's technically proficient. However, it's also very little different to dozens if not hundreds of other bands out there, some who do it better, some who do it worse.

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of bands out there that produce different, innovative, music. My problem is that people listen to what they are fed rather than going out to find other music. By doing this, they are stunting the proliferation of many bands that deserve to be successful. It may not affect me personally, but it affects bands that I like, as well as bands that I've not even heard of.

I'm sick of the way the music industry has turned into a massive production line of 'talent'. Yes, there is talent, but talent alone should not be enough. Any halfwit can pick up a guitar and play it adequately enough to be in a successful band, but if there's nothing new being done, why bother? Why would I want to listen to Oasis, for example, when their song structures, chords, etc, have been done before, in many cases better, over 30 years ago?

If I wanted talent, I could go to the nearest town centre, and I'm sure I could find a half-decent busker.

Ok, the music that I'm putting down here (Morning Runner) isn't actually crap. It's technically proficient. However, it's also very little different to dozens if not hundreds of other bands out there, some who do it better, some who do it worse.

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of bands out there that produce different, innovative, music. My problem is that people listen to what they are fed rather than going out to find other music. By doing this, they are stunting the proliferation of many bands that deserve to be successful. It may not affect me personally, but it affects bands that I like, as well as bands that I've not even heard of.

I'm sick of the way the music industry has turned into a massive production line of 'talent'. Yes, there is talent, but talent alone should not be enough. Any halfwit can pick up a guitar and play it adequately enough to be in a successful band, but if there's nothing new being done, why bother? Why would I want to listen to Oasis, for example, when their song structures, chords, etc, have been done before, in many cases better, over 30 years ago?

If I wanted talent, I could go to the nearest town centre, and I'm sure I could find a half-decent busker.
Oh, now I see where you're coming from. So just take it upon yourself to spread the word of your fave bands, if those people are too lazy to find them.

Oh, now I see where you're coming from. So just take it upon yourself to spread the word of your fave bands, if those people are too lazy to find them.
That's what I use this forum for. Check the link in my sig.

Gogol Bordello, Laibach, Nick Cave, Trabant, Lhasa, Gorillaz, etc...

That's what I use this forum for. Check the link in my sig.
Either way you look at it, I don't think that insulting people about their music is the best way to convert them. Gentle prodding seems like a better way to me.

Well, I like "dance with me" by Adam Green and "over my shoulder" by I am Kloot. Anything by Regina Spektor, she is fantastic. Those are a few, but I'm not a great music lover.

Either way you look at it, I don't think that insulting people about their music is the best way to convert them. Gentle prodding seems like a better way to me.
I prefer the insulting method. Makes me feel superior. ;)

"over my shoulder" by I am Kloot.
There's hope! :p
I Am Kloot are great. :)

Queen, The Beatles, Bob Dylan, Bon-Jovi, The Goo Goo Dolls, Aerosmith

I prefer the insulting method. Makes me feel superior. ;)
Yeah, I know what that feels like. I used to do it too, but then I saw the err of my ways.

There's hope! :p
I Am Kloot are great. :)
;)

jack johnson, ben harper, dave matthews band, john mayer, the eagles, g love and special sauce, matt costa, pink floyd, led zeppelin...mostly mellow stuff, acoustic rock :p

jack johnson, ben harper, dave matthews band, john mayer, the eagles, g love and special sauce, matt costa, pink floyd, led zeppelin...mostly mellow stuff, acoustic rock :p

They used to be my favorite band. You're probably the first person I've ever seen mention them on this forum besides myself.

Nirvana, The Smashing Pumpkins, Local H, Metallica, Therapy? Motörhead, the Melvins, Mudhoney, Ministry, Sebadoh, Screaming Trees, Babes In Toyland, Cradle of Filth, Napalm Death, Death, Husker Du, R.E.M., Cathedral...

...that's enough for now.

Nirvana, The Smashing Pumpkins, Local H, Metallica, Therapy? Motörhead, the Melvins, Mudhoney, Ministry, Sebadoh, Screaming Trees, Babes In Toyland, Cradle of Filth, Napalm Death, Death, Husker Du, R.E.M., Cathedral...

...that's enough for now.

Dead Kennedys?

Nirvana, The Smashing Pumpkins, Local H, Metallica, Therapy? Motörhead, the Melvins, Mudhoney, Ministry, Sebadoh, Screaming Trees, Babes In Toyland, Cradle of Filth, Napalm Death, Death, Husker Du, R.E.M., Cathedral...

...that's enough for now.

*nods*

Nothing sounds like Bob Mould's ferocious guitar on vinyl. It's good.

Dead Kennedys?
I like the Dead Kennedys, but they wouldn't make my top 25.

*nods*

Nothing sounds like Bob Mould's ferocious guitar on vinyl. It's good.Can't say I've ever heard it on vinyl.

I like the Dead Kennedys, but they wouldn't make my top 25.

Ah. I just assumed, you know?

Ah. I just assumed, you know?Understandable. It is possible I could've forgotten something, so it's good to be reminded. ;)

Can't say I've ever heard it on vinyl.

That's a shame, because I have an original pressing of Warehouse: Songs And Stories, and it sounds like it's live, whereas the CD sounds like it's in a box.

That's a shame, because I have an original pressing of Warehouse: Songs And Stories, and it sounds like it's live, whereas the CD sounds like it's in a box.Eh. It's okay, I like earlier Husker Du better...though that probably sounds like it's in a box, too.

Understandable. It is possible I could've forgotten something, so it's good to be reminded. ;)

Your name sort of lends itself to the assumption that you're a Dead Kennedys fan.

Your name sort of lends itself to the assumption that you're a Dead Kennedys fan.Oh, I know. To be fair, he has done other things than the Dead Kennedys, though most people don't know it.

Eh. It's okay, I like earlier Husker Du better...though that probably sounds like it's in a box, too.

Funny you should mention that. I have a very good vinyl rip of their In A Free Land 7" on this hard drive, and it sounds like you're actually in the studio with them. The CD version of Everything Falls Apart doesn't come close.

Sorry if I'm annoying anyone with all of this talk about analogue records, but the fact is, they just plain sound better than CD's.

Sonata Arctica, Ayreon, Radiohead, Alice Cooper....

Funny you should mention that. I have a very good vinyl rip of their In A Free Land 7" on this hard drive, and it sounds like you're actually in the studio with them. The CD version of Everything Falls Apart doesn't come close.

Sorry if I'm annoying anyone with all of this talk about analogue records, but the fact is, they just plain sound better than CD's.Hm. Maybe I'll have to check and see if I can get the record player here to work, and perhaps start buying vinyl after all.

HUGE fan. I was just at their show in Providence on Saturday.
are you kidding? I was supposed to go to that and my ride fell through. How was it?

I've had the suffering in my head all day and can't figure out why

Hm. Maybe I'll have to check and see if I can get the record player here to work, and perhaps start buying vinyl after all.

That would be a good idea. Audio-Technica sent a replacement for my damaged turntable without me knowing about it, and I got it earlier today.

I decided to listen to Moving Pictures all the way through "Red Barchetta" to test the sound quality, and even on my tinny "ghetto" speakers, it far surpasses the CD version. During the interlude, Geddy's vocals get really wide stereo separation to make an echo/reverb effect. On the CD version (even the recent remaster), the separation isn't even noticeable.

I love my records. Can't beat a near-mint original pressing of a classic album.

That would be a good idea. Audio-Technica sent a replacement for my damaged turntable without me knowing about it, and I got it earlier today.

I decided to listen to Moving Pictures all the way through "Red Barchetta" to test the sound quality, and even on my tinny "ghetto" speakers, it far surpasses the CD version. During the interlude, Geddy's vocals get really wide stereo separation to make an echo/reverb effect. On the CD version (even the recent remaster), the separation isn't even noticeable.

I love my records. Can't beat a near-mint original pressing of a classic album.Ah. Well, this turntable that I'm talking about is at least 25 years old, which makes it older than I am, so I wouldn't be getting any replacement for it if it doesn't work properly...lol.

Agalloch, American Analogue Set, Amorphis, Amortis, Anathema, Animal Collective, A Perfect Circle, Apocalyptica, Arcade Fire, Arcturus, Asmegin, Axamenta, Black Sabbath, Black Field, Blind Guardian, Bloodbath, Boards of Canada, Borknagar, Bush, Caribou, Children of Bodom, Circulatory System, cLOUDDEAD, Cutleaf, Dark Tranquility, Dead Can Dance, Dead Soul Tribe, Demons & Wizards, Dream Evil, Dream Theater, Edguy, Einherjer, Ensiferum, Falkenbach, Finntroll, Glass Hammer, Green Carnation, Guns n Roses, Hammerfall, Iced Earth, In Flames, Iron & Wine, Isis, Jethro Tull, Kalmah, Kamelot, Kansas, Katatonia, Korpiklaani, Lords of Acid, Manegarm, Mastodon, Menhir, Metallica, Motus, Neurosis, Neutral Milk Hotel, Nick Drake, November's Doom, Of Montreal, Opeth, Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree, Primordial, Psychotic Waltz, Queen, Rammstein, Rhapsody, Riverside, Rotting Christ, Rush, Samael, Sentenced, Shadows Fall, Silly Wizard, Soilwork, Sonata Arctica, Spiral Architect, The Tangent, Thergothon, Therion, Tiamat, Tool, Transatlantic, Tristania, Vehemence, Vintersorg, Vivaldi, Vox Vulgaris, Winds.

Nirvana, Kyuss, Queens of the Stone Age, Led Zeppelin, Rage Against the Machine, Black Sabbath, Placebo, The Doors, The Smashing Pumpkins, Tool, Dead Kennedys, Monster Magnet, Fu Manchu, Soundgarden, Mudhoney, Alice in Chains, The Melvins, Boris, Electric Wizard, Sleep, Candlemass, Cathedral, the Pixies, Screaming Trees, 65daysofstatic, The Velvet Underground, Sonic Youth, Butthole Surfers, Sepultura, Spiderbait, Faith No More, Public Enemy, Refused, Machine Head, Corporate Avenger, Pantera, Down, The Black Keys, TISM.

Eh, I could go on, and in fact I did, but I chopped out some 20+ bands. It's probably overboard as it is. I'll bet nobody really reads these anyway.

Nirvana, The Smashing Pumpkins, Local H, Metallica, Therapy? Motörhead, the Melvins, Mudhoney, Ministry, Sebadoh, Screaming Trees, Babes In Toyland, Cradle of Filth, Napalm Death, Death, Husker Du, R.E.M., Cathedral...

...that's enough for now.

Heh. *bows and worships yet again* :D


Oh, I know. To be fair, he has done other things than the Dead Kennedys, though most people don't know it.

Speaking of which, in your opinion are Lard worth getting into? I saw one of their albums at a second hand store the other day but picked up a Mudhoney EP instead. (i'd guess so considering you mentioned Ministry, but eh.)

Heh. *bows and worships yet again* :DThanks. I shall be getting a Kyuss album next week, if one is still there at the store while they have their sale. I believe you said Welcome To Sky Valley was their best. I also should check out 65daysofstatic. Are they fairly big overseas? I ask because the only place I hear about them is on here from non-US residents.

Speaking of which, in your opinion are Lard worth getting into? I saw one of their albums at a second hand store the other day but picked up a Mudhoney EP instead. (i'd guess so considering you mentioned Ministry, but eh.)Yes, I would say so, particularly if you like Ministry. (Lard doesn't sound exactly like Ministry, but it's more similar to Ministry than the Dead Kennedys.) I'd say get any of their releases except for The Power of Lard, get that one last. Which Mudhoney EP did you get, Five Dollar Bob's Mock Cooter Stew?

Thanks. I shall be getting a Kyuss album next week, if one is still there at the store while they have their sale. I believe you said Welcome To Sky Valley was their best. I also should check out 65daysofstatic. Are they fairly big overseas? I ask because the only place I hear about them is on here from non-US residents.
Not really. They sell out tours in the UK when they play venues with 500-1000 capacity, they're touring Europe soon, and they seem to be fairly big in Japan. I'm a regular on the messageboard on their site, and there's very few Americans on there. Obviously the majority of people are British, but there are some Canadians, Belgians, Dutch, Germans and Italians as well. You'd probably struggle to find any of their cds in America.

Not really. They sell out tours in the UK when they play venues with 500-1000 capacity, they're touring Europe soon, and they seem to be fairly big in Japan. I'm a regular on the messageboard on their site, and there's very few Americans on there. Obviously the majority of people are British, but there are some Canadians, Belgians, Dutch, Germans and Italians as well. You'd probably struggle to find any of their cds in America.Ah, thank you. I don't usually pay that much attention to new music coming out, but I didn't think I was that much out of the loop. At the worst, I'll have to order their CDs from amazon (shudder).

Edit: Ha, amazon has them only as import versions.

Ah, thank you. I don't usually pay that much attention to new music coming out, but I didn't think I was that much out of the loop. At the worst, I'll have to order their CDs from amazon (shudder).

Edit: Ha, amazon has them only as import versions.
You can buy them from their website, though you'd probably have to pay more than the usual £1 postage. I think they're fairly well available on bittorrent as well.

You can buy them from their website, though you'd probably have to pay more than the usual £1 postage. I think they're fairly well available on bittorrent as well.Hm. I don't usually download music, but I was thinking of starting to, and this case would especially be a good reason to as the songs aren't commercially available here. I'll check their website first, though.

Thanks. I shall be getting a Kyuss album next week, if one is still there at the store while they have their sale. I believe you said Welcome To Sky Valley was their best. I also should check out 65daysofstatic. Are they fairly big overseas? I ask because the only place I hear about them is on here from non-US residents.

Yeah, Welcome to Sky Valley or Blues for the Red Sun are their two best.

I only got into 65daysofstatic through Stalin here. Nobody else seems to have heard of them down here.

Yes, I would say so, particularly if you like Ministry. (Lard doesn't sound exactly like Ministry, but it's more similar to Ministry than the Dead Kennedys.) I'd say get any of their releases except for The Power of Lard, get that one last. Which Mudhoney EP did you get, Five Dollar Bob's Mock Cooter Stew?

Hmm, i'll pick it up next time i'm there. It was only $10 or something.

And yeah, that was indeed the EP I got. :)

Yeah, Welcome to Sky Valley or Blues for the Red Sun are their two best.

I only got into 65daysofstatic through Stalin here. Nobody else seems to have heard of them down here.Ah, his propaganda is effective. I'll have to push Local H more heavily.

Hmm, i'll pick it up next time i'm there. It was only $10 or something.No, don't get that one, get one of the other 3 releases.

And yeah, that was indeed the EP I got. :)Figured as much. Not my favorite Mudhoney release, but I enjoyed it, naturally.

Ah, his propaganda is effective. I'll have to push Local H more heavily.

Fair enough - i'll get an album off soulseek now (yes, downloading is naughty, but i'm the impatient type :p). Which would you recommend?

No, don't get that one, get one of the other 3 releases.

Oh, I meant i'll pick up the one I saw in the store...

Which, after looking it up, is Pure Chewing Satisfaction.

Figured as much. Not my favorite Mudhoney release, but I enjoyed it, naturally.

Yeah, it's not bad. My favourite song on there would have to be "Make it Now Again".

Fair enough - i'll get an album off soulseek now (yes, downloading is naughty, but i'm the impatient type :p)I'll suggest As Good As Dead, I'd say it's their best, by a slight margin, and it's also their most successful.
If you want to go to their website, it plays their most recent album, which was a live album, which is good, because it has songs from all of their albums, but bad, because it's a live album.

Oh, I meant i'll pick up the one I saw in the store...

Which, after looking it up, is Pure Chewing Satisfaction.Oh, good. That one's fine. The one I was talking about is also fine, but it's the worst of the four.

Yeah, it's not bad. My favourite song on there would have to be "Make it Now Again".Yes, I'd have to say that, or "Deception Pass".

I'll suggest As Good As Dead, I'd say it's their best, by a slight margin, and it's also their most successful.
If you want to go to their website, it plays their most recent album, which was a live album, which is good, because it has songs from all of their albums, but bad, because it's a live album.

Hmm, i'll just download it for now, and if I like it, i'll hunt around for it. (I'm a bit wary about buying albums I haven't heard...)

Oh, and another band I have a feeling that you would probably like (if you haven't checked them out already) is Monster Magnet... :)

Oh, good. That one's fine. The one I was talking about is also fine, but it's the worst of the four.

It's probably harder to find than the other stuff, anyway.

Yes, I'd have to say that, or "Deception Pass".

Heh, yep. We think alike. :p

Sorry if I'm annoying anyone with all of this talk about analogue records, but the fact is, they just plain sound better than CD's.

Having been listening to some Clash CDs recently I currently want to punch whoever was responsible for transfering them from the masters. All of Sandinista just sounds wrong with the EQ they have put on it, and the fact that Koka Kola off London Calling quite clearly starts off playing at something like 150% off the correct speed is just laughable.

Hmm, i'll just download it for now, and if I like it, i'll hunt around for it. (I'm a bit wary about buying albums I haven't heard...)Oh, that's fine, I was just suggesting if you download, start with that one...although if you pick one randomly, that would work, too.
Oh, and another band I have a feeling that you would probably like (if you haven't checked them out already) is Monster Magnet... :)I like Monster Magnet, but don't have as much of their stuff as I should. I was really really really (really really) annoyed by the "Space Lord" song, and I'm afraid that if I buy another album by them that it will sound like that even though it probably won't.

Having been listening to some Clash CDs recently I currently want to punch whoever was responsible for transfering them from the masters. All of Sandinista just sounds wrong with the EQ they have put on it, and the fact that Koka Kola off London Calling quite clearly starts off playing at something like 150% off the correct speed is just laughable.

Y'know, that might be my problem - I thought London Calling wasn't that special...but I haven't heard it on vinyl.

I like the first album and "The Essential Clash" compilation, though.

Oh, that's fine, I was just suggesting if you download, start with that one...although if you pick one randomly, that would work, too.
I like Monster Magnet, but don't have as much of their stuff as I should. I was really really really (really really) annoyed by the "Space Lord" song, and I'm afraid that if I buy another album by them that it will sound like that even though it probably won't.

Yeah. That's what a lot of people have to say...i'm glad i heard Superjudge first. Get anything before Powertrip and you'll probably be happy. (actually the rest of that album is okay, apart from Space Lord, but I like their other stuff heaps more. It's a lot more "spacey".)

Y'know, that might be my problem - I thought London Calling wasn't that special...but I haven't heard it on vinyl.

It ain't my favourite LP by them, that's for sure - I think it still is laden with baggage from being Rolling Stones best LP of the 1980s (regardless of the fact it was released in 1979). It has a great selection of songs on it, but they work a lot better live, whereas the whole LP has something of an AOR-feel to it, something I attribute to Guy Steven's production work.

Then again, I think their triple LP Sandinista! is their best album, so please shoot me.

Y'know, that might be my problem - I thought London Calling wasn't that special...but I haven't heard it on vinyl.

I like the first album and "The Essential Clash" compilation, though.That might be my problem, too. I like their music, but wouldn't even put them on my top 100 of all time. Perhaps everything sounds that that much better on vinyl?

Yeah. That's what a lot of people have to say...i'm glad i heard Superjudge first. Get anything before Powertrip and you'll probably be happy. (actually the rest of that album is okay, apart from Space Lord, but I like their other stuff heaps more. It's a lot more "spacey".)Oh, good, that's a relief. I'll bump one of their early albums, or Powertrip to the top of my mental to-get list, then, thanks. I really did like Dopes To Infinity.

I'm glad this thread has evolved into a Clash discussion. As well it should have. They are the only band that matters.

Lately, I have discovered Joe strummer's last three albums and I highly recommend them.

To get back on topic, my favorite bands in no particular order are The Clash, The Clash, Joe Strummer and the Mescaleros, The Clash, BAD, The Clash and finally, The Clash.

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Perhaps everything sounds that that much better on vinyl?


For the most part I'm of the opinion that recordings originally recorded, produced, mixed and mastered for vinyl sound better on vinyl (barring incompetence at any stage of the chain), whereas CD re-releases always seem to bugger something up along the way. A classic example of this is Black Sabbath's Paranoid LP which sheds its murky, woody, sludgy qualities on CD and once again just sounds plain wrong - all tin and chrome with no soul.

Of course albums created specifically for release on CD are a different matter, but I still haven't grown accustomed to the irritating presence that the high end sheen off hi-hats has in music as a result.

Lately, I have discovered Joe strummer's last three albums and I highly recommend them.

The third one doesn't stand up as well as the first two, but then it was only really half-finished, so that is hardly a surprise.

Most of the material from his wilderness years between the Clash and the Mescaleros is also worth a listen or two, but there are some distinct failures in that batch. If nothing else the Walker soundtrack is a shock to the system the first time you hear it, and the Permanent Record soundtrack also has a good batch of tunes recorded with the Latino-Rockabilly War which are essentially the proto-sound of the Mescaleros.

For the most part I'm of the opinion that recordings originally recorded, produced, mixed and mastered for vinyl sound better on vinyl (barring incompetence at any stage of the chain), whereas CD re-releases always seem to bugger something up along the way. A classic example of this is Black Sabbath's Paranoid LP which sheds its murky, woody, sludgy qualities on CD and once again just sounds plain wrong - all tin and chrome with no soul.

Of course albums created specifically for release on CD are a different matter, but I still haven't grown accustomed to the irritating presence that the high end sheen off hi-hats has in music as a result.Oh, well that's good to know. I won't necessarily have to put my CD collection onto vinyl even if I do like the way it sounds better, that's a relief.

It ain't my favourite LP by them, that's for sure - I think it still is laden with baggage from being Rolling Stones best LP of the 1980s (regardless of the fact it was released in 1979). It has a great selection of songs on it, but they work a lot better live, whereas the whole LP has something of an AOR-feel to it, something I attribute to Guy Steven's production work.

Then again, I think their triple LP Sandinista! is their best album, so please shoot me.

Heh, that's the confusing thing as well - every Clash fan has a different opinion on what their best album is....their best loved albums seem to be equally hated. The only one I know to definitely avoid is Cut the Crap. I guess I should get into them more, but what i've heard from Oi! and Irish punk bands (like the Stiff Little Fingers) from the same era (which, admittedly, isn't a lot) i'd say I like that stuff more than the Clash. Meh.

That might be my problem, too. I like their music, but wouldn't even put them on my top 100 of all time. Perhaps everything sounds that that much better on vinyl?

So some people say, but I think it's more an issue of dodgy transfers than any superiority vinyl has over CD. The Dead Kennedys albums I have on CD don't sound any different to the vinyl, but I had an extremely bad quality Black Sabbath one that was *definitely* noticeable - but I bought a newer pressing of the same album, and it's fine.


Oh, good, that's a relief. I'll bump one of their early albums, or Powertrip to the top of my mental to-get list, then, thanks. I really did like Dopes To Infinity.

Dopes to Infinity is probably my favourite, though I haven't heard 25...Tab yet.

...and Irish punk bands (like the Stiff Little Fingers) from the same era (which, admittedly, isn't a lot)...

Ooooh... what other Irish punk* have you been listened to?


* and by that I don't mean the fucking Dropkick Murphys.

A classic example of this is Black Sabbath's Paranoid LP which sheds its murky, woody, sludgy qualities on CD and once again just sounds plain wrong - all tin and chrome with no soul.

Haha! *points above*

Haha! *points above*

Remastering it again in order to try and recapture the vinyl sound is all very well, but I wonder if Vertigo would be willing to exchange copies of the first CD release for the second - they obviously know that they fucked up somewhere along the line.

Ooooh... what other Irish punk* have you been listened to?


* and by that I don't mean the fucking Dropkick Murphys.

I don't care for the Dropkick Murphys either. But I love Ash!

...kidding. Hehe.

Are The Angelic Upstarts and the Partisans Irish? Come to think of it, i'm not sure they are.

Are The Angelic Upstarts and the Partisans Irish? Come to think of it, i'm not sure they are.

English and Welsh, respectively.

Remastering it again in order to try and recapture the vinyl sound is all very well, but I wonder if Vertigo would be willing to exchange copies of the first CD release for the second - they obviously know that they fucked up somewhere along the line.

Hmm. Well, the CD I was having trouble with was Master of Reality - everything was wrong. The low end was so badly done that it distorted into a terrible buzz on my stereo, some songs were too fast, some were too slow, and it was in general a disgusting mess.

My current pressings aren't done by Vertigo, though - they're by a "Sanctuary Records", which appear to be UK based. I have no idea who was in charge of the first one I bought...i've lost it somewhere, but it was second hand, so it might not have been the same company. I have a vague feeling it *may* have been Vertigo, though.

English and Welsh, respectively.

Heh. Any Irish bands you'd care to suggest then?

Heh. Any Irish bands you'd care to suggest then?

Radiators From Space, The Dagda, Pink Turds In Space, FUAL, Bleeding Rectum, Stalag 17, Toxic Waste, Rudi, Undertones, Outcasts, Blood Or Whiskey, Easpa Measa, Knifed, We Are Knives, Paranoid Visions, The Dangerfields, Puget Sound, Bastard Youth, Scientific Bong, Control, Jackbeast, Stomach, Bambi, Crude & Snide, Debt, Runnin' Riot, Jobbykrust, Scared Shitless, Slomatics, Monkhouse, The Kabinboy, La Faro, The Naut, 1000 Drunken Nights, Complan, Kid Blunt, My Name Is Satan, Serpents, De Novissimus, Mr Nipples, Redneck Manifesto, Wheel, Pocket Billiards... my mind isn't ticking over too well this morning, but that should get you started.

my mind isn't ticking over too well this morning, but that should get you started.

And how. :p

I'll check out whichever ones I can find. (some of those band names are awesome.)

And how.

Fuck me... how can I have forgotten Scald, Somedays Better, Circle Again, TVP and Brawl?

So some people say, but I think it's more an issue of dodgy transfers than any superiority vinyl has over CD. The Dead Kennedys albums I have on CD don't sound any different to the vinyl, but I had an extremely bad quality Black Sabbath one that was *definitely* noticeable - but I bought a newer pressing of the same album, and it's fine.
I found that Fresh Fruit... is much better on vinyl than it is on CD. Most Led Zep stuff I have on both vinyl and CD sounds better on the vinyl too.

Any opinions on Lacuna Coil? I've not listened to them, but they've been recommended.

Any opinions on Lacuna Coil? I've not listened to them, but they've been recommended.
Brilliant band - listen to the albums Unleashed Memories and Comalies first. I'll be seeing them in June. :D

Using search I see this has been said already :(. Well, I shall give them a go.

are you kidding? I was supposed to go to that and my ride fell through. How was it?

I've had the suffering in my head all day and can't figure out why

Spectacular. Avenged Sevenfold was great, but I was really there to see Coheed. They put on a great show. They had a giant projector screen behind them on stage showing images from the comic books. It was rather funny when they played "Everything Evil" how many people sung along versus when they played "The Suffering". I get the feeling not a lot of fans know about Second Stage Turbine Blade.

Brilliant band - listen to the albums Unleashed Memories and Comalies first. I'll be seeing them in June. :D

Have you ever seen them live before?

Have you ever seen them live before?
Nope. And it'll be at a festival in June, so it won't be a 'proper' live show. They're a band that I probably couldn't justify paying as much as the ticket would cost to go and see.

Edit: I'll be seeing A7X and Coheed & Cambria at the same festival, so long as they don't clash with a band I want to see more.

Any opinions on Lacuna Coil? I've not listened to them, but they've been recommended.

The band that should have been famous instead of Evanesence. (sp? that looks wrong to me. Eh.)

Christina Scabbia is hot, too.

I found that Fresh Fruit... is much better on vinyl than it is on CD. Most Led Zep stuff I have on both vinyl and CD sounds better on the vinyl too.

Funny...I have Fresh Fruit on vinyl, but the others on CD, so I can't compare. :p

I'd agree with Led Zep too. I have every one of their major studio albums, but the couple on vinyl I have (III, IV, and the Whole Lotta Love EP) I prefer the vinyl versions. They just aren't much good for listening to on the train, y'know?

I think BWO is right - albums originally pressed for vinyl probably will sound better on vinyl. It doesn't matter so much for albums pressed for CD.

The band that should have been famous instead of Evanesence. (sp? that looks wrong to me. Eh.)

Christina Scabbia is hot, too.

So's Amy Lee. Though CS is hotter.


Funny...I have Fresh Fruit on vinyl, but the others on CD, so I can't compare. :p

I'd agree with Led Zep too. I have every one of their major studio albums, but the couple on vinyl I have (III, IV, and the Whole Lotta Love EP) I prefer the vinyl versions. They just aren't much good for listening to on the train, y'know?
I've got FFFRV and the Holiday in Cambodia single (not as good as the album version) on vinyl, and FFFRV and the other albums on CD, so I can only compare FFFRV. But it's better on vinyl.

I only have II, IV, Physical Graffiti and In Through The Out Door on CD as well as vinyl. ITTOD isn't so great on vinyl as it is on CD, but the rest, CDs don't compare.
I think BWO is right - albums originally pressed for vinyl probably will sound better on vinyl. It doesn't matter so much for albums pressed for CD.
Yup.

Nope. And it'll be at a festival in June, so it won't be a 'proper' live show. They're a band that I probably couldn't justify paying as much as the ticket would cost to go and see.

Edit: I'll be seeing A7X and Coheed & Cambria at the same festival, so long as they don't clash with a band I want to see more.

Hopefully you're luckier than I am when I saw them. I swear their sound crew was drunk. They sounded awful.

So's Amy Lee. Though CS is hotter.

*Way* hotter, IMO. I don't find Amy Lee all that attractive.

Amy Lee (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/AmyLee2003BillboardAwards.jpg)

Christina Scabbia (http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v86/ObsidianDragon/Lacuna%20Coil/Lacunacoil.jpg)

No contest. :p

I've got FFFRV and the Holiday in Cambodia single (not as good as the album version) on vinyl, and FFFRV and the other albums on CD, so I can only compare FFFRV. But it's better on vinyl.

Yeah, the single version is a bit meh - good, but pales in comparison. I have it on Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death.

I've heard Plastic Surgery Disasters and Frankenchrist on vinyl though, and I didn't think there was much of a difference to my CD versions.

I only have II, IV, Physical Graffiti and In Through The Out Door on CD as well as vinyl. ITTOD isn't so great on vinyl as it is on CD, but the rest, CDs don't compare.

Yeah. I should look into getting more on vinyl, but eh. I really want to hear the vinyl version of Zeppelin I and compare that, though.

*Way* hotter, IMO. I don't find Amy Lee all that attractive.

Amy Lee (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/AmyLee2003BillboardAwards.jpg)

Christina Scabbia (http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v86/ObsidianDragon/Lacuna%20Coil/Lacunacoil.jpg)

No contest. :p
Hey, if you're going to get an awesome picture of Cristina, and an unflattering one of Amy, that's a bit of an unfair comparison...

Amy Lee (http://template01.weblogger.terra.com.br/img/layoutmeu.gif)

Cristina Scabbia (http://www.mattymo.com/albums/lacunacoil/lacunacoil20.sized.jpg)

Hey, if you're going to get an awesome picture of Cristina, and an unflattering one of Amy, that's a bit of an unfair comparison...

Amy Lee (http://template01.weblogger.terra.com.br/img/layoutmeu.gif)

Cristina Scabbia (http://www.mattymo.com/albums/lacunacoil/lacunacoil20.sized.jpg)

I never claimed to play fair. :p

Actually, I still don't think Amy Lee is all that attractive in that picture anyway. I still prefer Cristina. Even with that pic, which isn't really that bad.

(oh, and it's Cristina minus the h, is it? My bad.)

I never claimed to play fair. :p

Actually, I still don't think Amy Lee is all that attractive in that picture anyway. I still prefer Cristina.

(oh, and it's Cristina minus the h, is it? My bad.)
And nor did I ;)
Ok, we'll disagree...or in other words, you're wrong :p

And nor did I ;)
Ok, we'll disagree...or in other words, you're wrong :p

Heh.

I just look at that picture of Amy Lee and I think...well...maybe "butch" is too strong a word to use here, but it's hard to explain...there's something there that says "no" to me. Eh.

Having been listening to some Clash CDs recently I currently want to punch whoever was responsible for transfering them from the masters. All of Sandinista just sounds wrong with the EQ they have put on it, and the fact that Koka Kola off London Calling quite clearly starts off playing at something like 150% off the correct speed is just laughable.

Ugh. The remasters of Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols are like that. All but the latest remasters have been really tinny 'n' brittle, and even the latest one's overall sound quality doesn't compare to the original vinyl (the drums sound "digitised", if you know what I mean).

On top of that, they did half-speed remastering, which is INSANE. "God Save The Queen" sounds like Grunge at that speed, and John's voice is really low.

Spectacular. Avenged Sevenfold was great, but I was really there to see Coheed. They put on a great show. They had a giant projector screen behind them on stage showing images from the comic books. It was rather funny when they played "Everything Evil" how many people sung along versus when they played "The Suffering". I get the feeling not a lot of fans know about Second Stage Turbine Blade.
haha...kinda like how when I went to see Jimmy Eat World...they played Sweetness and The Middle, everyone was singing. They play Bleed American (title track of the same exact album) and most people are silent.

Avenged Sevenfold usually does a good show.

And I am eternally jealous of you. I've yet to see Coheed live

On top of that, they did half-speed remastering, which is INSANE. "God Save The Queen" sounds like Grunge at that speed, and John's voice is really low.

Huh? I think you may have misunderstood the concept of half-speed mastering.

The Doors, Santana, Jefferson Airplane, and Crosby, Stills, & Nash.

Huh? I think you may have misunderstood the concept of half-speed mastering.

Oh. Well, however they did it, it sounds terrible. You can take a listen for yourself on Amazon. It's the Sex Pistols Collection.

Radiators From Space, The Dagda, Pink Turds In Space, FUAL, Bleeding Rectum, Stalag 17, Toxic Waste, Rudi, Undertones, Outcasts, Blood Or Whiskey, Easpa Measa, Knifed, We Are Knives, Paranoid Visions, The Dangerfields, Puget Sound, Bastard Youth, Scientific Bong, Control, Jackbeast, Stomach, Bambi, Crude & Snide, Debt, Runnin' Riot, Jobbykrust, Scared Shitless, Slomatics, Monkhouse, The Kabinboy, La Faro, The Naut, 1000 Drunken Nights, Complan, Kid Blunt, My Name Is Satan, Serpents, De Novissimus, Mr Nipples, Redneck Manifesto, Wheel, Pocket Billiards... my mind isn't ticking over too well this morning, but that should get you started.I see a befuddling lack of Therapy? on this list.

haha...kinda like how when I went to see Jimmy Eat World...they played Sweetness and The Middle, everyone was singing. They play Bleed American (title track of the same exact album) and most people are silent.

Avenged Sevenfold usually does a good show.

And I am eternally jealous of you. I've yet to see Coheed live

Neener neener, I've seen them twice. :D Back in November when they played the Palladium in Worcester, and just now in Providence. They're playing in Lowell in May. I'm thinking of going to that show, too.

I see a befuddling lack of Therapy? on this list.

I thought them too obvious to list, and was sure that Kanabia would have some familiarity with them. I did include the Undertones, despite their incredible obviousness, as K had failed to list any other Irish bands than SLF earlier. For the most part that list is also focused on those with a DIY ethic.

I thought them too obvious to list, and was sure that Kanabia would have some familiarity with them. I did include the Undertones, despite their incredible obviousness, as K had failed to list any other Irish bands than SLF earlier. For the most part that list is also focused on those with a DIY ethic.Ah, I see. Well, that's good then. I will also have to study this list as all the Irish bands I can name I could count on less than two hands. (And they aren't necessarily good ones, either.)

i like cortney love

.. what? i like her voice... no she did not drug me.. stop looking at me like tha... hey put that pitch fork down!

i like cortney love

.. what? i like her voice... no she did not drug me.. stop looking at me like tha... hey put that pitch fork down!
Why wouldn't you?

Why wouldn't you?
ahh i have a fellow pa-anite to back me here :fluffle:

Neener neener, I've seen them twice. :D Back in November when they played the Palladium in Worcester, and just now in Providence. They're playing in Lowell in May. I'm thinking of going to that show, too.
haha...I don't know if I'm more bitter that you've seen them twice, or the fact that I had tickets to both shows and both of them got messed up.

But May you say? hmm...I'll have to check that out. Lowell is a bitch of a drive for me, but hell, it might just be worth it...

ahh i have a fellow pa-anite to back me here :fluffle:I wouldn't say that Courtney Love is the best musician ever, or even close, but she's written some good songs (or someone else wrote them for her, whoever you choose to believe.)

haha...I don't know if I'm more bitter that you've seen them twice, or the fact that I had tickets to both shows and both of them got messed up.

But May you say? hmm...I'll have to check that out. Lowell is a bitch of a drive for me, but hell, it might just be worth it...

Aye. The Tsongas Arena, the 27th I think. Where would you be driving from?

Aye. The Tsongas Arena, the 27th I think. Where would you be driving from?
I'd be back in Berlin by then (20 minutes south of hartford). Still, might be worth it, and if I needed, I think some friends are staying in the city this summer, so I could always just crash with them.

I'd be back in Berlin by then (20 minutes south of hartford). Still, might be worth it, and if I needed, I think some friends are staying in the city this summer, so I could always just crash with them.

Well, if that's the case, they're playing NYC on 05/20. That's probably just as far away for you.

Well, if that's the case, they're playing NYC on 05/20. That's probably just as far away for you.
yeah, thats about equal. I'd rather conquor Boston traffic than NYC traffic. So I guess see ya in Lowell...haha

yeah, thats about equal. I'd rather conquor Boston traffic than NYC traffic. So I guess see ya in Lowell...haha

I haven't bought tickets yet. I'm not sure if I'm going to go or not. It's going to be the same set as the one I just saw. Not sure I can justify another concert if it's going to be the same exact show.

I haven't bought tickets yet. I'm not sure if I'm going to go or not. It's going to be the same set as the one I just saw. Not sure I can justify another concert if it's going to be the same exact show.
True...granted I'm the one who has seen ozzfest three times in one year (I got tickets for Hartford, my friend got me tickets for Boston for my birthday, and someone couldn't go, so sold me their ticket for NYC)

Why can't Hartford attract good shows :(

They used to be my favorite band. You're probably the first person I've ever seen mention them on this forum besides myself.

why the used to? what's your favorite band now?

why the used to? what's your favorite band now?

Used to because they've made six albums and they haven't done anything new. They could re-release Coast to Coast Motel and some people would think it's their new album. A band should grow and mature over the course of almost 10 years, and they haven't. Favorite band of the moment is Coheed and Cambria.

True...granted I'm the one who has seen ozzfest three times in one year (I got tickets for Hartford, my friend got me tickets for Boston for my birthday, and someone couldn't go, so sold me their ticket for NYC)

Why can't Hartford attract good shows :(

Not sure. Hartford is kind of dumpy, but no worse than Worcester or Providence.

Acid Bath
Metallica
Guns N' Roses
Testament
The Eagles
Pink Floyd
Queen
Lynard Skynard

Not sure. Hartford is kind of dumpy, but no worse than Worcester or Providence.
I'd say providence is slightly nicer...hartford, despite all their effort, is still just gross. I hate going to the Webster because it is in one of the worst parts of the city. Considering the rest of the city, that is pretty bad.

Worcester, on the other hand...well, do I need to say more than "Dead Hookers Pond"?

I'd say providence is slightly nicer...hartford, despite all their effort, is still just gross. I hate going to the Webster because it is in one of the worst parts of the city. Considering the rest of the city, that is pretty bad.

Worcester, on the other hand...well, do I need to say more than "Dead Hookers Pond"?

I don't know. Providence is on the upswing, but it still looks like they're rebuilding the city after a war. Worcester is falling fast, but it's still a decent city and probably will be for another 5 years or so at it's current rate of decay.

I don't know. Providence is on the upswing, but it still looks like they're rebuilding the city after a war. Worcester is falling fast, but it's still a decent city and probably will be for another 5 years or so at it's current rate of decay.
and then there is hartford..."New Englands Rising Star" (who the hell came up with that?). Take where providence started before the upswing, thrown in worcesters decaying quality, and viola! Hartford.


have you heard that they are planning on bringing a hockey team back to hartford? I can't help but laugh. And cry a little. But mostly laugh

Oh dear, I heard Coheed and Cambria broke up. just kidding.

Oh dear, I heard Coheed and Cambria broke up. just kidding.

Oh noes!

Bon Jovi, G n' R, The Darkness, Oasis, Queen and U2.