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Just a word of encouragement to those among you who are on the verge of dispair, who are depressed, or who are just feeling a bit down.

We were all born without our consent. All of us will surely die. But it's what you do in between that matters. When you feel like things are ganging up against you, dig down deep and find the courage to not only survive, but to live this life the best you possibly can!

Never give up! Never surrender! Never say "die!" And take no mother-frakking prisoners!

A few of my favorite quotes:

"Don’t let anyone steal our dreams." Michael Jordan

"You just can't beat the person who never gives up." Babe Ruth, Legendary Baseball Player

"You have no control over what the other guy does. You only have control over what you do." A J Kitt

"If it weren't for the dark days, we wouldn't know what it is to walk in the light." Earl Campbell - NFL running back

"Do you know what my favorite part of the game is? The opportunity to play. It is as simple as that. God, I love that opportunity." Mike Singletary - NFL Linebacker

"Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goals." - Unknown

"My motto was always to keep swinging. Whether I was in a slump or feeling badly or having trouble off the field, the only thing to do was keep swinging." Hank Aaron

"The funny thing about regret is that it's better to regret something you have done than to regret something you haven't." - Gibby Haynes

"A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." Simon & Garfunkel

"Ain’t no chance if you don’t take it." Guy Clark

"Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do." John Wooden

"We must either find a way or make one." Hannibal

"It's amazing what one can accomplish when one doesn't know what one can't do." -Garfield.

"It's amazing what one can accomplish when one doesn't know what one can't do." -Garfield.
Exactly! A man after my own heart, you are! :D

"A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." Simon & Garfunkel
*prepares to quote this in every religion/abortion/politics thread*

Sends a trans-atlantic :fluffle: to Eutrusca, with a big smile and a wave. :D

*prepares to quote this in every religion/abortion/politics thread*
Kewl. It's a good quote. It's from "The Boxer," one of my favorite songs of theirs:

The Boxer

I am just a poor boy
Though my story's seldom told
I have squandered my existence
For a pocket full of mumbles such are promises
All lies and jests
Still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest

When I left my home and my family
I was no more than a boy
In the company of strangers
In the quiet of the railway station running scared
Laying low, seeking out the poorer quarters
Where the ragged people go
Looking for the places only they would know

Lie la lie ...

Asking only workman's wages
I come looking for a job
But I get no offers,
Just a come-on from the whores on Seventh Avenue
I do declare, there were times when I was so lonesome
I took some comfort there

Lie la lie ...

Then I'm laying out my winter clothes
And wishing I was gone
Going home
Where the New York City winters aren't bleeding me
Bleeding me, going home

In the clearing stands a boxer
And a fighter by his trade
And he carries the reminders
Of ev'ry glove that laid him down
Or cut him till he cried out
In his anger and his shame
"I am leaving, I am leaving"
But the fighter still remains.

Lie la lie, lie la lie lie lie lie lie, lie la lie, lie la lie lie lie la lie lie, lie-lie la lie

Giving up is both realistic and intelligent. Smart monkeys learn.

Sends a trans-atlantic :fluffle: to Eutrusca, with a big smile and a wave. :D
Awww! You ladies on NS General are totally awesome! Thank you, beautiful woman! :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Giving up is both realistic and intelligent. Smart monkeys learn.
Bullshit.

You da man, Gramps! :D

You da man, Gramps! :D
ROFL! Uh ... thanks, I think! :D

Bullshit.

Not really, when you think about it. Giving up one thing allows you to focus on another...

<snip>

You're a fucking legend, you know that? That was exactly what I needed right now.

"I never saw a wild thing
feel sorry for itself
A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
without ever having felt sorry for itself"

~ D.H. Lawrence
Ah, GI Jane. What a terrible film.

all you need is a chip and a chair!






...poker metaphor. if you have one of each, you are still in the game


yes poker IS the proper metaphor for life.

"Vitality shows in not only the ability to persist but the ability to start over." - F. Scott Fitzgerald

"If you're even considering suicide, think of all the ways you could make people much more miserable by staying alive." ~Me

"Never despair. Unless you're out of pie." ~Also Me

"Ignore the homicidal green monkeys; they're habitually on crystal." ~Guess who...

“Oh, you weak, beautiful people who give up with such grace. What you need is someone to take hold of you -- gently, with love, and hand your life back to you.”- Tennessee Williams

may not fit, but I like it.

“Oh, you weak, beautiful people who give up with such grace. What you need is someone to take hold of you -- gently, with love, and hand your life back to you.”- Tennessee Williams

may not fit, but I like it.

It fits all right.... but it should come with a "Subject to availability" label...

*prepares to quote this in every religion/abortion/politics thread*
http://katry.blogspot.com/2006/04/boxer-simon-and-garfunkel.html

We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. – Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere’s Fan

You don't drown by falling in the water; you drown by staying there. - Edwin Louis Cole

Most of the important things in the world have been accomplished by people who have kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all. -Dale Carnegie

Everything will be OK in the end, if it's not OK then it's not the end.

Dream as if you’ll live forever, live as if you’ll die tomorrow – James Dean

and this one, just for being surreal:

"Everything's fine," he said. "They managed to put his leg back together and everyone's very happy.’’ -http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/4388439.stm

"When they told you life was fair, they lied."

Something my dad would always tell me. ;)

Never give up! Never surrender!

isnt that the motto thing they said on galaxy quest?

isnt that the motto thing they said on galaxy quest?
Yes, it sure is! Man, I was just gonna post that with a reference :D
It's up on my wall, right in front of my computer desk... Take a wild guess why!

You're a fucking legend, you know that? That was exactly what I needed right now.

"I never saw a wild thing
feel sorry for itself
A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
without ever having felt sorry for itself"

~ D.H. Lawrence

[SIZE="1"]Ah, GI Jane. What a terrible film.[/COLOR]
LOL! Well, I don't know about being a "legend," but sometimes I get it right. :D Thank you.

Love the D.H. Lawrence quote, btw.

Not really, when you think about it. Giving up one thing allows you to focus on another...
That's not what I got out if what he said.

This sounds a bit harsh, but giving up just sounds like cowardice to me.

That's not what I got out if what he said.

This sounds a bit harsh, but giving up just sounds like cowardice to me.

Call it "rethinking one's stragy", then :p
He did say something about congnitive abilities, implying that you don't give up in the sens of lying down and dying, but rather reconsidering if what you want is worth the effort you ned to get it, or if you can have something similar with a lot less effort...

I dont know if someone said this yet, but Winston Churchill, a man I have a lot of admiration for said:

"When you're going through Hell, keep going".

He has countless brilliant quotes, based on experience.

That's not what I got out if what he said.

This sounds a bit harsh, but giving up just sounds like cowardice to me.

Oh, please, you both know that you're talking about different kinds of "giving up", right? :rolleyes:

Giving up a worthy goal out of weakness, cowardice, laziness, whatever, is, while understandable, not the greatest thing to do.

But giving up something that makes you feel bad about yourself, that you know is unwilling to be obtained, that is, objectively, not a worthy goal, certainly is the right thing to do.


So there.

If this is just a list of quotes then…
…Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. ;)

"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on"

- Franklin Delano Roosevelt & Benjamin Franklin

"Vitality shows in not only the ability to persist but the ability to start over." - F. Scott Fitzgerald
Ah, yes. The inimitable Mr. Fitzgerald.

Rudyard Kipling has a pretty good handle on it too. I first read this poem when I was about eleven years old, and I took it very much to heart:

If

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!


Obviously Kipling was writing to men, but the same things apply to all people, whatever their sex, age or location. It makes me laugh and smile because, looking back over my life, I realize the times when every word of it was true. :)

I dont know if someone said this yet, but Winston Churchill, a man I have a lot of admiration for said:

"When you're going through Hell, keep going".

He has countless brilliant quotes, based on experience.

Churchill may have been a controversial chap at times, but his quotes are some of my all-time favourites; I have a book of the gathered together.

"Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed."

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Are two of my favourites

"NEIN - Nicht Aufgeben!" (NO - Don't Give Up!)
-The postcard I carry around in my backpack.

"If you're even considering suicide, think of all the ways you could make people much more miserable by staying alive." ~Me
LOL! I like this! :D

“Oh, you weak, beautiful people who give up with such grace. What you need is someone to take hold of you -- gently, with love, and hand your life back to you.”- Tennessee Williams

may not fit, but I like it.
I like it too. :)

But sometimes what's needed is someone to tell you the harsh truth rather than an attractive lie, or to kick your ass when you make giving up nosies. :D

It fits all right.... but it should come with a "Subject to availability" label...
True, but you know I'm always here to kick your ass when and as needed! :D

Any advice for some avg joe(aka me) who feels like they are lost in this world, and also who feels like nothing is really worth "it"(whatever it is) anymore?

"When they told you life was fair, they lied."

Something my dad would always tell me. ;)
What I use to tell my kids:

You weren't born with some certificate that said, "this little person is entitled to fair." You want "fair?" Then go out and make "fair" for yourself. And if you ever get tired of looking for "fair," come home. I'm here to kick your ass if you need it!

:D

isnt that the motto thing they said on galaxy quest?
Not that I'm aware of. I made that up when I was in Vietnam. :)

I like it too. :)

But sometimes what's needed is someone to tell you the harsh truth rather than an attractive lie, or to kick your ass when you make giving up nosies. :D
yep. I have always tried to be the friend who will come up to you and say "you know you are really screwing up"

it's not a safe role, nor am I well-liked most of the time. I feel that it's necessary though.

Call it "rethinking one's stragy", then :p
He did say something about congnitive abilities, implying that you don't give up in the sens of lying down and dying, but rather reconsidering if what you want is worth the effort you ned to get it, or if you can have something similar with a lot less effort...
I agree then ... sorta. Sometimes it's just wise to back off and take a long, hard look at what you're beating your head against. But don't simply use that as an excuse for cowardice or laziness.

isnt that the motto thing they said on galaxy quest?

I could be mistaken, but it sounds distinctly Churchillian in style.

EDIT: Well, sort of:

"We shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender."

I dont know if someone said this yet, but Winston Churchill, a man I have a lot of admiration for said:

"When you're going through Hell, keep going".

He has countless brilliant quotes, based on experience.
Ah yes, the English bulldog. He certainly would know about overcoming adversity. :)

Oh, please, you both know that you're talking about different kinds of "giving up", right? :rolleyes:

Giving up a worthy goal out of weakness, cowardice, laziness, whatever, is, while understandable, not the greatest thing to do.

But giving up something that makes you feel bad about yourself, that you know is unwilling to be obtained, that is, objectively, not a worthy goal, certainly is the right thing to do.

So there.
Ohh-kayy. I didn't think we were talking about anything you said, though. :)

If this is just a list of quotes then…
…Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. ;)
Heh! Ok, except that a tomato is a berry, not a fruit! :p

"NEIN - Nicht Aufgeben!" (NO - Don't Give Up!)
-The postcard I carry around in my backpack.
Good man! Read it periodically until it becomes part of who you are. :)

Any advice for some avg joe(aka me) who feels like they are lost in this world, and also who feels like nothing is really worth "it"(whatever it is) anymore?
Yes. Make 100% sure that's not just fear or laziness talking. Then, if you still feel like nothing's worth it anymore, pay me a visit so I can kick your ass! :D

"Nuts."
That American General at Bastogne durring the Battle of the Bulge when asked to surrender.

Yes. Make 100% sure that's not just fear or laziness talking. Then, if you still feel like nothing's worth it anymore, pay me a visit so I can kick your ass! :D


Aww...you'd kick my ass for me?? you get a totally straight, man to man, fluffle...:fluffle:

Not that I'm aware of. I made that up when I was in Vietnam. :)
Well, maybe you should claim ownership of that quote, then? ;)

http://imdb.com/title/tt0177789/quotes

LOL! I like this! :D
Of course you do. I said it after all. :)

{Damn, there should be a way to double-capitalise I.}

Heh! Ok, except that a tomato is a berry, not a fruit! :p
Yes, but berries are always classified as fruit anyway. :p

yep. I have always tried to be the friend who will come up to you and say "you know you are really screwing up"

it's not a safe role, nor am I well-liked most of the time. I feel that it's necessary though.
Good! I use to tell my kids: I love you so much that I'm willing to risk having you hate me because I won't lie to you, or blow sunshine up your ass! :D

"Nuts."
That American General at Bastogne durring the Battle of the Bulge when asked to surrender.
"Any man that eleqouent deserves to have his ass saved!" - Gen. George S. Patton

:D

Aww...you'd kick my ass for me?? you get a totally straight, man to man, fluffle...:fluffle:
LOL! Yup! Sometimes that can have a rather salutory effect. It's also sometimes the kindest thing you can do for someone.

Ohh-kayy. I didn't think we were talking about anything you said, though. :)
Ha, touché. Guess that rolleye smiley was a bit over the top after all? ;) Nah, sorry, I just really thought that was going to develop into a fight about the wisdom of "giving up" when it was so obvious that you were thinking about different things.
Serves me right. Never try to defuse potential "situations" when in a bit of a pissy mood, least of all when there doesn't even seem to be a "situation". :p

Well, maybe you should claim ownership of that quote, then? ;)

http://imdb.com/title/tt0177789/quotes
I was speaking of the entire thing: "Never give up, never surrender, never say 'die,' and take no mother-frakking prisoners!" :p

Of course you do. I said it after all. :)

{Damn, there should be a way to double-capitalise I.}

Yes, but berries are always classified as fruit anyway. :p
ROFL! You're a frakking "berry," you twit! :D

Ha, touché. Guess that rolleye smiley was a bit over the top after all? ;) Nah, sorry, I just really thought that was going to develop into a fight about the wisdom of "giving up" when it was so obvious that you were thinking about different things.
Serves me right. Never try to defuse potential "situations" when in a bit of a pissy mood, least of all when there doesn't even seem to be a "situation". :p
Oh, that last line is sooo sigged! :D

It wasn't the smilie that was "over the top," sweetheart. You're the one who's "over the top!" [ grin ]

Oh, that last line is sooo sigged! :D

It wasn't the smilie that was "over the top," sweetheart. You're the one whose "over the top!" [ grin ]
:rolleyes:

ROFL! You're a frakking "berry," you twit! :D
No, I'm not. I'm only 5% homosexual. :)

Oh, that last line is sooo sigged!

It wasn't the smilie that was "over the top," sweetheart. You're the one whose "over the top!" [ grin ]

:rolleyes:
Um, I didn't even get what he meant, but I'm guessing I better ask him to take it back?

Good! I use to tell my kids: I love you so much that I'm willing to risk having you hate me because I won't lie to you, or blow sunshine up your ass! :D
yep. My husband is the same way (that's probably why we get along so well) people don't understand our communication process they think we are mean to eachother, but really we love eachother and that's why we are the way we are. If you truely love someone you don't lie to them, and you surely want them to grow as a person, and don't want them to go through unneeded pain, so if you can help them by saying "geez, you whine a lot, maybe less whining and more doing and life wouldn't suck so much" then you gotta do it right?

No, I'm not. I'm only 5% homosexual. :)
LOL! Well GOOD for you! :D

yep. My husband is the same way (that's probably why we get along so well) people don't understand our communication process they think we are mean to eachother, but really we love eachother and that's why we are the way we are. If you truely love someone you don't lie to them, and you surely want them to grow as a person, and don't want them to go through unneeded pain, so if you can help them by saying "geez, you whine a lot, maybe less whining and more doing and life wouldn't suck so much" then you gotta do it right?
Yup! Gotta luv dat "tough love" thang! :D

Just a word of encouragement to those among you who are on the verge of dispair, who are depressed, or who are just feeling a bit down.

We were all born without our consent. All of us will surely die. But it's what you do in between that matters. When you feel like things are ganging up against you, dig down deep and find the courage to not only survive, but to live this life the best you possibly can!

Never give up! Never surrender! Never say "die!" And take no mother-frakking prisoners!

A few of my favorite quotes:

"Don’t let anyone steal our dreams." Michael Jordan

"You just can't beat the person who never gives up." Babe Ruth, Legendary Baseball Player

"You have no control over what the other guy does. You only have control over what you do." A J Kitt

"If it weren't for the dark days, we wouldn't know what it is to walk in the light." Earl Campbell - NFL running back

"Do you know what my favorite part of the game is? The opportunity to play. It is as simple as that. God, I love that opportunity." Mike Singletary - NFL Linebacker

"Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goals." - Unknown

"My motto was always to keep swinging. Whether I was in a slump or feeling badly or having trouble off the field, the only thing to do was keep swinging." Hank Aaron

"The funny thing about regret is that it's better to regret something you have done than to regret something you haven't." - Gibby Haynes

"A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." Simon & Garfunkel

"Ain’t no chance if you don’t take it." Guy Clark

"Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do." John Wooden

"We must either find a way or make one." Hannibal
or just get hammered.

or just get hammered.
"When in doubt, drink your troubles out?" Hmmm. Might work for an evening. :p

Yup! Gotta luv dat "tough love" thang! :D
seems to work out well for my kids.

"mom, I'm hungry"
"didn't you eat dinner?"
"no"
"why not?"
"I didn't like it"
"oh, well, we don't eat again until tomorrow"

she eats dinner now, most of the time, when she doesn't she realizes it's her own fault that she is hungry.

I like it too. :)

But sometimes what's needed is someone to tell you the harsh truth rather than an attractive lie, or to kick your ass when you make giving up nosies. :D


And sometimes, it's the worst thing you can do. I understand what you're saying, Eut, and I appreciate it, but sometimes words just don't help. Sometimes "tough love" is a bad idea.

A favourite of mine:

"Any idiot can face a crisis - It's this day to day living that wears you out." ~Anton Chekhov

Gets me off my arse when I collapse under pressure

seems to work out well for my kids.

"mom, I'm hungry"
"didn't you eat dinner?"
"no"
"why not?"
"I didn't like it"
"oh, well, we don't eat again until tomorrow"

she eats dinner now, most of the time, when she doesn't she realizes it's her own fault that she is hungry.
Heh! We did the same thing, although my wife would have weakened if I hadn't insisted. I told them that what their mother fixed for them to eat was what they had to eat. Don't wanna eat? Fine. Just don't expect a meal just for you. :D

And sometimes, it's the worst thing you can do. I understand what you're saying, Eut, and I appreciate it, but sometimes words just don't help. Sometimes "tough love" is a bad idea.
It always worked for me. Perhaps because I always tried my damndest to practice what I preached to my kids.

A favourite of mine:

"Any idiot can face a crisis - It's this day to day living that wears you out." ~Anton Chekhov

Gets me off my arse when I collapse under pressure
I like that quote. The sheer drudgery of day-to-day living even gets me down at times. I just try to focus on the next "good thing" that's going to happen in my life, and remind myself that the only way to that is through the drudgery.

"When in doubt, drink your troubles out?" Hmmm. Might work for an evening. :pNah, something I'm extremely proud of is that in all my time of being depressed, I never tried to drown the pain in alcohol. I've made a habit of only drinking when around friends :)

Nah, something I'm extremely proud of is that in all my time of being depressed, I never tried to drown the pain in alcohol. I've made a habit of only drinking when around friends :)
Don'tcha just love those times when you're with a group of people you like and you're all a bit tipsy, and someone tells a joke that someone else picks up on and remembers another one, and soon you're all just laughing your asses off? :D

I like that quote. The sheer drudgery of day-to-day living even gets me down at times. I just try to focus on the next "good thing" that's going to happen in my life, and remind myself that the only way to that is through the drudgery.


In disciplinig your kids, yes, it works. In encouraging someone with depression, not so much.

Nah, something I'm extremely proud of is that in all my time of being depressed, I never tried to drown the pain in alcohol. I've made a habit of only drinking when around friends :)


Drinking your problems away? - All too often, you wind up with a really bad hangover and find that not only havent your problems gone away, but they usually have invited some of their friends along to join in the gang-bang.

In disciplinig your kids, yes, it works. In encouraging someone with depression, not so much.
That's true, especially if they're clinically depressed. Telling someone who's depressed to "snap out of it" isn't just unworkable, it can actually make things worse.

In disciplinig your kids, yes, it works. In encouraging someone with depression, not so much.
there are 2 reasons someone would be depressed

1) they want to be, then tough love works
2) they have a medical problem, then all the encouragment in the world won't "fix" anything, they need to go to the doctor.

I have never seen a depressed person benifit from someone lying to them.

Don'tcha just love those times when you're with a group of people you like and you're all a bit tipsy, and someone tells a joke that someone else picks up on and remembers another one, and soon you're all just laughing your asses off? :DThe secret to getting roaring drunk together is drinking games. One of my favorites:

King's Corner (also known as King's Cup)
Get a pack of 52 cards and everyone takes a turn drawing one. Each card has a different meaning. Deuces through 4's represent "fingers", which are passed out at will by the person that drew the card. People receiving "fingers" drink that many finger-widths of their drink. I'm rather confused as to the order of the other rules, but they include rhyming (one person makes a rhyme and the first person to fail in a reasonable amount of time has to drink), topics (one person names a topic [movies, cars] and all others name something from that topic; first person to fail drinks), Drinking Fountain (the person that drew the card starts drinking- as soon as he/she does, the next person starts to drink and so on until everyone's drinking- then the card drawer stops drinking, and so on [some wicked people take their time when drinking]), and making up rules (usually the ace, you get to make up a rule that everyone has to follow, such as "whenever you swear, you drink").
Game ends when the fourth King is drawn, and the person to do that usually either drinks the cup that was being filled every time a King got drawn or everything on the table.

there are 2 reasons someone would be depressed

1) they want to be, then tough love works
2) they have a medical problem, then all the encouragment in the world won't "fix" anything, they need to go to the doctor.

I have never seen a depressed person benifit from someone lying to them.
I love you. *fixes a depressed Smunkee*

We're all born survivors, it's just a pity so few of us seem to know it.

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<snip>I find the friend that I have that directs me to despair.com helps a lot, too :D

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We're all born survivors, it's just a pity so few of us seem to know it.

You mean like survival as in making tents out of leaves and eating bugs? :D

You mean like survival as in making tents out of leaves and eating bugs? :D
You have to do whatever it takes, man. You already ate the other survivors.

The secret to getting roaring drunk together is drinking games. One of my favorites:

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Game ends when the fourth King is drawn, and the person to do that usually either drinks the cup that was being filled every time a King got drawn or everything on the table.
LOL! Gotta love it! :D

One particularly vivid scene from the movie "Patton" was when the war was over and he and his staff were guests of the Russians.

When the time came for toasts, the Russian general toasted Patton, then waited for the translation. Patton replied to the translator:

"Tell the general that I will not drink with him or with any other Russian son-of-a-bitch."

The translator reluctantly translated, whereupon the Russian general replied:

"You too are a son-of-a-bitch!"

To which Patton responded by laughing and said:

"I'll drink to that ... one son-of-a-bitch to another son-of-a-bitch!"

Whereupon, they linked arms in the Russian manner and proceeded to drink, almost eyeball to eyeball.

To me, that became metaphor for the entire Cold War relationship between the US and the USSR. :)

Hawt piss. (http://www.perfect-petals.co.uk/Old%20Fashioned%20Peach%20Rose%20Cake%20Large.jpg)

I wondered what that last one was going to show:eek:

I wondered what that last one was going to show:eek:

I could've linked it to Weebl 'n Bob too.

http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/failure.jpg
I'll die first.


http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/sacrifice.jpg
What I've done for my children and grandchildren. They're far, far better people than I am. :)

You mean like survival as in making tents out of leaves and eating bugs? :D
That too. Whatever it takes. :)

That too. Whatever it takes. :)

That's me out then...:p

That's me out then...:p
Cluck. Cluck. :p

Cluck. Cluck. :p
http://www.saskschools.ca/~gregory/thanks/graphics/whtky.jpg?

http://www.saskschools.ca/~gregory/thanks/graphics/whtky.jpg?
LOL! Nahh. Turkeys go "a-gobble-gobble-gobble!" Not "Cluck. Cluck" you doof! :D

Boy, I thought this thread might be helpful. Czardas is the only one who got it right, and he's a raving psychotic.

there are 2 reasons someone would be depressed

1) they want to be, then tough love works
2) they have a medical problem, then all the encouragment in the world won't "fix" anything, they need to go to the doctor.
I have never seen a depressed person benifit from someone lying to them.


Been to the doctor. Heavily medicated. Still feel like crap.

I find the friend that I have that directs me to despair.com helps a lot, too :D


I'll check it out.

Been to the doctor. Heavily medicated. Still feel like crap.
then you have to examine why you feel like crap, meds alone won't fix you. They can only help you a little bit.

it's like if you broke your own finger, pain pills may help with the pain, but it won't stop you from snapping it in two again.

Been to the doctor. Heavily medicated. Still feel like crap.Me too. Nothing helps. Though my roommates dying might give me a short lift in mood.

Me too. Nothing helps. Though my roommates dying might give me a short lift in mood.

*grabs popcorn*

I'll check it out.


That's funny, in a sick sort of way.

then you have to examine why you feel like crap, meds alone won't fix you. They can only help you a little bit.

it's like if you broke your own finger, pain pills may help with the pain, but it won't stop you from snapping it in two again.


Smunkee, I already know why I feel this way, but I won't give my life story here. It's not like I'm doing nothing. Intensive therapy, heavy medication. It's not that simple.

Smunkee, I already know why I feel this way, but I won't give my life story here. It's not like I'm doing nothing. Intensive therapy, heavy medication. It's not that simple.
I didn't say it would be simple, nor did I say you were doing nothing. It's hard to get out of depression once you are in it, and even harder to stay out once you get better, but I hear too often from people "well, I took those pills and life still sucks" and it annoys me, of course life sucks, I don't need to be reminded of it, I try to do things to lessen the blow.

Just think about chocolate. :fluffle:

Boy, I thought this thread might be helpful. Czardas is the only one who got it right, and he's a raving psychotic.
Oh? So just how did Czardas "get it right?" :p

Me too. Nothing helps. Though my roommates dying might give me a short lift in mood.
:rolleyes:

Been to the doctor. Heavily medicated. Still feel like crap.
One more time:

Do ... you ... exercise?

:rolleyes:LOL
Okay, just one of them really.
And exercise does help, it's just really hard to get up the gumption to start when you're depressed. Hence my walk to the library today. But it hasn't helped my Bitchiness.

One more time:

Do ... you ... exercise?


Only if you count hauling my ass around campus as exercise. No, I don't I have neither the time nor the energy.

Only if you count hauling my ass around campus as exercise. No, I don't I have neither the time nor the energy.
It really can help. It's the best thing your shrink can prescribe. Take it from someone who's been there too many times. Nothing makes it all better, but along with meds, exercise is one of the best things you can do for it.

It really can help. It's the best thing your shrink can prescribe. Take it from someone who's been there too many times. Nothing makes it all better, but along with meds, exercise is one of the best things you can do for it.


Jogging and rock climbing aren't really options for me.

LOL
Okay, just one of them really.
And exercise does help, it's just really hard to get up the gumption to start when you're depressed. Hence my walk to the library today. But it hasn't helped my Bitchiness.
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Jogging and rock climbing aren't really options for me.
And exercise would be limited to those two options? Riiiight! :rolleyes:

ANY sort of strenuous exercise will do the trick, dude. :)

Even not so strenuous exercise. Every little bit helps. Walk a bit. Swim. Just do something. Not only does it release endorphins, but a bit of distraction from your mood is always a plus.

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:Thanks, dude. Fluffles always help too. Depression can be temporarily fluffled away.

Even not so strenuous exercise. Every little bit helps. Walk a bit. Swim. Just do something. Not only does it release endorphins, but a bit of distraction from your mood is always a plus.


Also not an option.:) And before anyone says it, no the disability is not the source of the depression. If I could walk, I'd still be depressed.

Depression can be temporarily fluffled away.
Words to live by. :eek:

Thanks, dude. Fluffles always help too. Depression can be temporarily fluffled away.
I'd fluffle you, but I'm currently having a crush on Ilie. :D

Also not an option.:) And before anyone says it, no the disability is not the source of the depression. If I could walk, I'd still be depressed.Swimming?
Ya know, I notice you're mentioned as a possible match for the Peach. (me)
Does that mean any sort of dancing is out?
Me, my disability is my moods. I'm bipolar, and it makes people nuts.:eek:

Swimming?
Ya know, I notice you're mentioned as a possible match for the Peach. (me)
Does that mean any sort of dancing is out?
Me, my disability is my moods. I'm bipolar, and it makes people nuts.:eek:
Hey, i'm also matched up with you! :p

I'd fluffle you, but I'm currently having a crush on Ilie. :DFickle, aren't we? Surely she wouldn't mind a few thrown my way.

Fickle, aren't we? Surely she wouldn't mind a few thrown my way.
Fine fine, you win. :p

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

happy? ;)

Swimming?
Ya know, I notice you're mentioned as a possible match for the Peach. (me)
Does that mean any sort of dancing is out?
Me, my disability is my moods. I'm bipolar, and it makes people nuts.:eek:


Hell, no, I'm actually quite the dancer. What sort of dancing do you do?