NationStates Jolt Archive

Me and this Polish guy in my history class were explaining to an "Aussie" girl the European ethnicities. We eventually dumbed it down to drawing a line between Germany and Poland. "Everything west of this line is Germanic, everything east is Slavic." Not actually true, but close enough.

>_>

Well done; and the point of this post is what exactly?

...

And? :p

Well done; and the point of this post is what exactly?

...

And? :p

I like mustard.

woop-dee-doo

And your point is? :confused:

And the moral of the story is...?

And the moral of the story is...?
"Thou shalt not spam!"

Actually, I can attempt to make this non-spammy.

KP, explain to me the physical differences between Germanic and Slavic peoples. (ignoring language.)

Because I just thought about it, and I came up empty. Why are they considered a distinct "race"?

I like mustard.

Gulden's Spicy Brown is great mustard. :)

Actually, I can attempt to make this non-spammy.

KP, explain to me the physical differences between Germanic and Slavic peoples. (ignoring language.)

Because I just thought about it, and I came up empty. Why are they considered a distinct "race"?

It's simple:

Slavs eat kielbasa.

Germans build death factories.

Actually, I can attempt to make this non-spammy.

KP, explain to me the physical differences between Germanic and Slavic peoples. (ignoring language.)

Because I just thought about it, and I came up empty. Why are they considered a distinct "race"?

Any differences are purely linguistic.

...and race is a cultural construct anyway

Me and this Polish guy in my history class were explaining to an "Aussie" girl the European ethnicities. We eventually dumbed it down to drawing a line between Germany and Poland. "Everything west of this line is Germanic, everything east is Slavic." Not actually true, but close enough.

>_>Yeah. It completely ignores the Sorbs and Wendish.

It's simple:

Slavs eat kielbasa.

Germans build death factories.

LOL

Yeah. It completely ignores the Sorbs and Wendish.

And Balts and Ugrics and Romani.

Actually, I can attempt to make this non-spammy.

KP, explain to me the physical differences between Germanic and Slavic peoples. (ignoring language.)

Because I just thought about it, and I came up empty. Why are they considered a distinct "race"?

Actually, I'd love to hear this as well. Should be good for a laugh.

And Balts and Ugrics and Romani.

Okay, those are cool names. Why did I have to be born English when I could have been an Ugric (Ugricish?)

Actually, I'd love to hear this as well. Should be good for a laugh.

I wouldnt be surprised if he ended up linking language to genetics... :D

It's simple:

Slavs eat kielbasa.

Germans build death factories.
:p

I wouldnt be surprised if he ended up linking language to genetics... :D

Yeah, and I'm going 5:1 odds he somehow adds in anti-Muslim rhetoric, and 2:1 odds he starts ranting about pure Germans and how they shoud be superior or some other trash.

Anyone in?

Actually, I can attempt to make this non-spammy.

KP, explain to me the physical differences between Germanic and Slavic peoples. (ignoring language.)

Because I just thought about it, and I came up empty. Why are they considered a distinct "race"?
Ehhhh, methinks I shouldn't touch this, just in case it opens a can of racist worms, and I don't even know if Germanic and Slavic are considered a different "race" (we, um, don't really use that word anymore in German, for obvious reasons), but I do know that there is quite often the talk about someone having "Slavic features" (as, I would guess, is the case in Slavic countries with people saying someone has "Germanic features"). I can't really describe what this encompasses (the internet would know, I think, but I don't feel like sorting through all kinds of racist bullshit), but in my head I kind of know what it means.
Basically, just like the Southern Europeans in general have a certain kind of look, and the Northern Europeans, so have the Eastern Europeans. *shrugs*

Yeah, and I'm going 5:1 odds he somehow adds in anti-Muslim rhetoric, and 2:1 odds he starts ranting about pure Germans and how they shoud be superior or some other trash.

Anyone in?

Replace Germans with Allemanni, and you've got yourself a pretty safe bet....

Replace Germans with Allemanni, and you've got yourself a pretty safe bet....

Cool. I did this with US Abassadorship once in one of his history threads. 'Twas quite entertaining for a while.

Where's a can of whoop-ass when you need one? :headbang:

And Balts and Ugrics and Romani.Sorbs and Wendish are west of the German border. In fact, there's street signs here that are in Sorb, and Sorbians are Slavic. Not to mention, I'm rather sure Brandenburg is still part of Germany.

Ehhhh, methinks I shouldn't touch this, just in case it opens a can of racist worms, and I don't even know if Germanic and Slavic are considered a different "race" (we, um, don't really use that word anymore in German, for obvious reasons), but I do know that there is quite often the talk about someone having "Slavic features" (as, I would guess, is the case in Slavic countries with people saying someone has "Germanic features"). I can't really describe what this encompasses (the internet would know, I think, but I don't feel like sorting through all kinds of racist bullshit), but in my head I kind of know what it means.
Basically, just like the Southern Europeans in general have a certain kind of look, and the Northern Europeans, so have the Eastern Europeans. *shrugs*

Yeah, but there were Slavs before Genghis and folks came to Eastern Europe and violently impregnated every single Russian lass they could get their hands on and gave them all those funny Mongolian looking eyes.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Lenin4.jpg

See?

The ones before that probably didn't look all that different to their Viking ancestors. :p

(hows that for squashing political correctness?)

So eh. I find that the difference is a lot less marked when it comes to Poles and Germans, though. It's just an arbitrary construct in that instance, except for the language thing.

Sorbs and Wendish are west of the German border. In fact, there's street signs here that are in Sorb, and Sorbians are Slavic. Not to mention, I'm rather sure Brandenburg is still part of Germany.
At least it was last time I checked! *checks again* Yup, still is!

Sorbs and Wendish are west of the German border. In fact, there's street signs here that are in Sorb, and Sorbians are Slavic. Not to mention, I'm rather sure Brandenburg is still part of Germany.

Yeah, I know that. I was just pointing out non-Slavic peoples from the East.

Yeah, I know that. I was just pointing out non-Slavic peoples from the East.We're so complementary :D

Sorbs and Wendish are west of the German border. In fact, there's street signs here that are in Sorb, and Sorbians are Slavic. Not to mention, I'm rather sure Brandenburg is still part of Germany.

You make it way too complex.

The Bavarian worldview is a whole lot simpler: you either are Bavarian or you are not. If you are not Bavarian then you must be a Prussian. And Prussians cannot be trusted.

;)

You make it way too complex.

The Bavarian worldview is a whole lot simpler: you either are Bavarian or you are not. If you are not Bavarian then you must be a Prussian. And Prussians cannot be trusted.

;)The feeling is mutual :D

The feeling is mutual :D

I just wanted to add that I'm not Bavarian. I'm Frankonian. I'm not quite sure wether there is something like a "Frankonian worldview". Maybe there's only a "Frankonian Fankoniaview"...

So eh. I find that the difference is a lot less marked when it comes to Poles and Germans, though. It's just an arbitrary construct in that instance, except for the language thing.
Um, well, no. IMHO, many Poles look actually pretty Slavic. In fact, I had specifically mentioned Poles and Russians in my post above but then decided to go with the more general Eastern European. *shrug*

Oh, but just to be sure - I don't see why this should have any effect on anything, really.

I just wanted to add that I'm not Bavarian. I'm Frankonian. I'm not quite sure wether there is something like a "Frankonian worldview". Maybe there's only a "Frankonian Fankoniaview"... Well, there's definitely a "Terrible Frankonian Dialect", which is more than enough, thank you very much. :p

Um, well, no. IMHO, many Poles look actually pretty Slavic. In fact, I had specifically mentioned Poles and Russians in my post above but then decided to go with the more general Eastern European. *shrug*

Oh, but just to be sure - I don't see why this should have any effect on anything, really.

Do you think so? I guess your location would give you a better idea, but I meet a lot of blonde-haired blue-eyed people of Polish descent, and they don't look too different from the Germans i've met. Eh, you're right though, it doesn't really matter. :p

(Heh, let's put this in practice though - out of curiousity, do I look more German or Slav?)

Do you think so? I guess your location would give you a better idea, but I meet a lot of blonde-haired blue-eyed people of Polish descent, and they don't look too different from the Germans i've met. Eh, you're right though, it doesn't really matter. :p

(Heh, let's put this in practice though - out of curiousity, do I look more German or Slav?)
poles tend to have a very distinct face...I almost want to say rounder, but that isn't exactly right...

you look German to me...mostly because you look like my german friend

Do you think so? I guess your location would give you a better idea, but I meet a lot of blonde-haired blue-eyed people of Polish descent, and they don't look too different from the Germans i've met. Eh, you're right though, it doesn't really matter. :p

(Heh, let's put this in practice though - out of curiousity, do I look more German or Slav?)
What kind of stupid-ass question is that?
First of all, I thought your ancestors were mixed.
Second of all, it's just a stupid-ass question - do I look German?
Third of all (can you even say that?), you haven't even put up a decent picture.

Go look in a mirror and you tell me.

Do you think so? I guess your location would give you a better idea, but I meet a lot of blonde-haired blue-eyed people of Polish descent, and they don't look too different from the Germans i've met. Eh, you're right though, it doesn't really matter. :p

(Heh, let's put this in practice though - out of curiousity, do I look more German or Slav?)
If that picture didn't read "commie" I'd say very German... ;)
http://img45.echo.cx/img45/7504/commie8gw.jpg

You all look the same. :)

I just wanted to add that I'm not Bavarian. I'm Frankonian. That's ok. Nobody's perfect :)

Actually, I'd love to hear this as well. Should be good for a laugh.

cheekbones

I have heard (no idea if it's valid) that Slavs tend to have less pronounced cheek bones than do those of Germanic lineage.

might be complete bullshit, of course.

Two spam threads in one day? I am disappointed.