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I have always wanted to do this thread, Fidel Castro for USA President or other.

Post your other and why.

Compare Fidel and your other, if you wish too.

¡La muerte a Fidel Castro!

¡Hacia abajo con Comunismo!

Um, yes. I'd love to have a Soviet-style tyrant who almost started an all out nuclear war between the "east"[aka commies] and "west" deciding the fate of around 300 million people who support ideals he despices. It's much better than any of the MUCH more competent and sane leaders we had before. :rolleyes:

have serious fun with this one, vote for Fidel or Other, post your Others.

I vote Others, Presiden Ronald Reagan.
President Jeb Bush.
President George W Bush.
President George H Bush.

Compare your others to Fidel.

I voted for Mr. Other, because I quite like his policies on what to do about taxes (he would set the rates to a level that no one has ever thought of before), immigration (he plans to do something to immigrants that is, as of yet, unspecified and could range from killing them to giving them free suits), and Iraq (where he is keeping his plans secret until the moment before he strikes).
I also think that his running mate, Ms. Anonymous, is a strong addition to the ticket, as well as offering the position of VP to a woman (you gotta start somewhere with equal rights).

I voted for Mr. Other, because I quite like his policies on what to do about taxes (he would set the rates to a level that no one has ever thought of before), immigration (he plans to do something to immigrants that is, as of yet, unspecified and could range from killing them to giving them free suits), and Iraq (where he is keeping his plans secret until the moment before he strikes).
I also think that his running mate, Ms. Anonymous, is a strong addition to the ticket, as well as offering the position of VP to a woman (you gotta start somewhere with equal rights).

Post your other or others, can compare to Fidel if you like too.

Depend who the other is.

Castro is not the worst leader of the world, but he's far from perfect. I would prefer Castro to any right-wing nut like Bush, but I would prefer a candidate from the real left who is more intro democracy and rights than Castro. Someone like Kucinih (sp ?) maybe. Or an Allende-like president, even if that's rare in USA.

I am very happy that my other thread, Fidel Castro, George W Bush for USA President ? has done so well, no matter what the results. that is your right in a free nation.

Lets see if we can get the votes up on this thread this time around, the choices are Fidel or Other, you can vote for other and post your others, or you can vote for Fidel.

You can compare Fidel with the Others if you wish too.

Notice that I gave Americans, Canadians, Europeans, Australians, and Others thier own place in the poll, I would have included one for the New Zealanders if I had 12 options, since most of us are from these nations, I chose Australians because it has a higher population, no offense ment to the New Zealanders.

Other: Pretty much any competent leftist who doesn't hold to authoritarian statist tendencies.

Depend who the other is.

Castro is not the worst leader of the world, but he's far from perfect. I would prefer Castro to any right-wing nut like Bush, but I would prefer a candidate from the real left who is more intro democracy and rights than Castro. Someone like Kucinih (sp ?) maybe. Or an Allende-like president, even if that's rare in USA.
I agree withthis for the most part, wouldn't particularly like to have either him or Bush.

Other: Pretty much any competent leftist who doesn't hold to authoritarian statist tendencies.

:) Hear, hear.

:) Hear, hear.
Souds good.

There should be a 'hitler' option: for balance.

La Habana Cuba, NS Elections Council updated results observations. Based on a total of 21 NS Citizens voting so far.

The choices you can vote for Fidel or Other, your Other, you can compare your votes to each other if you wish to do so. No matter what the results are, it is your right to vote
in a free nation.

Percent of the votes and diffrences by

Fidelistas ----------------Others
Americans 01-- 09.09 - 10--- 90.91 Percent 81.82
Canadians 02 -- 100.00- 00-- 00.00 Percent 100.00
Europeans 01 -- 33.33 --02--- 66.67 Prercent 33.34
Australians03 -- 75.00 --01-- - 25.00 Percent 50.00
Others ----00-- 00.00 - -01- 100.00 Percent100.00

Over all Fidelistas 07 3.33 ---Others 14 66.67-33.34

Americans 11 52.38
Canadians 02 09.52
Europeans 03 14.29
Australians04 19.05
Others-----01 04.76
Totals -------100.00

Notice that I gave Americans, Canadians, Europeans, Australians and Others thier own place in the poll, I would
have included one for the New Zealanders if I had 12 option, since most of us are from these nations, I choose Australians because it has a higher population, no offense ment to the New Zealanders.

All regions possible got represented and its interesting to see the regional diffrences.

I love Math, Accounting, Bookeeping, Statistics, Systems, History, Geography, Politics, and I am a Copy Holic.

La Habana Cuba, NS Elections Council President.

Gracias

have serious fun with this one, vote for Fidel or Other, post your Others.

I vote Others, Presiden Ronald Reagan.
President Jeb Bush.
President George W Bush.
President George H Bush.

Compare your others to Fidel.
You appear to have a Bush fetish with a side disorder of Reaganism? :p

pretty dopey overall, but it does remind me I'd like to see that video of castro stumbling off the stage again.
Cuba's Funniest Home Videos- they could win $10,000.00 if the person that took that film submitted it.

You appear to have a Bush fetish with a side disorder of Reaganism? :p

LOL, Viva Bushes and Shrubs, and Viva President Ronald Reagan the greatest President ever, for he loved America his native land, I make this post in honor of the First Lady
Nancy Reagan, for they lovd each other deeply, Viva President Ronald Reagan.

La Habana Cuba, NS Elections Council President
has to go for now, will return tonight to update the results.

Remember no matter what the results are, it is your right to vote in a free nation.

La Habana Cuba, NS Elections Council President.

Gracias

doesnt really fit in with the thread jsut wanted to say

i did a course at uni entitled Marxist and socialist theory, at UEA, nowrich.
turned out that the lecturer had given an economics lecture in havana in front of fidel castro. and to think 20 years ago he worked in a production line in birmingham

Well, we got the voting up from11 to 31 the second time around, very happy and content my thread has done that much.

La Habana Cuba NS Elections Counci President updated observations. Based on 31 NS Citizens voting.

It looks like the thread has preatty much run its course, even though technically its an open time poll as most of my public polls are.

Public election polls in this case are acceptable because this is the NS world after all not the real world were the vote should be private.

I am very happy that my thread had such a good response,
remember that no matter who you vote for and what the results may be, voting is your right in a free nation, with all its faults and virtues.

Of diffrent political partys, offering diffrent economic and social points of views.

No matter how corrupt a party or indivisual member may be, there is always an election process to change it around in free political nations.

If I had had 12 options I would have included a place for the New Zealanders, as most of us come from these nations, I choose Australia because it has a higher population, I know its not fair in that sense, but no offense ment to the New Zealanders.

All regions possible were represented and is interesting to see the regional diffrences in any such polls.

Total voters, percentage and diffrences by.
Fidelistas---------------- Bushes
Americans 02 14.28---- 12 85.71 by 71.43
Canadians 03 100.00 -- 00 00.00 by 100.00
Europeans 05 55.56 --- 04 44.44 by 11.12
Australian 03 75.00 ---- 01 25.00 by50.00
Others---- 00 00.00 ---- 01 100.00 by 100.00

Over all Fidelistas13 41.94 Bushes 18 58.06 by 16.12

Americans - 14 45.16
Canadians - 03 0968
Europeans - 09 29.03
Australians 04 12.90
Others ----- 01 03.23
Totals 31 NS Citizens voters.

Remember the poll is technically an open time poll.

You may now discuss the diffrences and similarities in the results by regions, who is more apart to whom and who is closer to whom and such.

And any other views and comments you may have.

I have enjoyed my RP as NS Elections Council President,
I would like to make it official, LOL and I am not LOL about it, more as in serious.

I love working with Math, Accounting, Bookkeeping, Statistics, Systems, Love History, Geography, Economics, Politics.

I am not an RP er, but I do like short RP type storys, and
an acting RP like this one.

La Habana Cuba, NS Elections Council President

Gracias

pretty dopey overall, but it does remind me I'd like to see that video of castro stumbling off the stage again.
Cuba's Funniest Home Videos- they could win $10,000.00 if the person that took that film submitted it.

yes it would be nice to see that video of Castro stumling off the stage agian.

But if the person that took that film submitted it, he should try to come in a raft, inner tube, floating cars, trucks and taxis across 90 miles of shark infested waters, before Fidel gets to him, LOL, but who is LOL, is serious.

He better make sure he has a quick and safe way out of Cuba fast.

See the diffrences with our nations of origin is we can make fun of our presidents, prime ministers and other main leaders, on the internet, and the media, but not in Cuba.

On the othe hand to be fair, Cubans in Cuba do make jokes about Fidel and such, but among themselves not in the media and not on a site like Nationstates., which would not even be allowed for us to share our diffrent political, economic and social views, jokes and such.

the point I am trying to make and tried to make on my other Fidel, Bush, President thread in a not intentional harch way is.

Fidel's nature is a nature of a dictatorship personality.

All I can say to the Fidellista voters is, that would be the last free elections you all would be able to vote in for the rest of your lifes, if fidel could find away to stay in power, he would.

you would live happy under Fidel for life, like it or not.

Yes, unlike anything you may see in Bush as a dictator.

Bush will be gone in a few years, he will step down, leave office when the term expires, if Fidel dosent die by then, he will still be dictator for life, that is a point I am trying to make, Fidel's undermocratic nature.

Yust look at the recent Italian elections, and the 2006 political climate in the USA, were the Republicans may loose control of the house of Representatives and maybe even the senate and compare that to Fidel and Cuba's one party state were our diffrent economic, political and social views would not be allowed to be represented in the Cuban National Assembly or any other level of government.

In Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the EU, coalitions of Socialist, Christian Democrats, Social, Socialist Democrats, Greens, Conservatives, Democrats and Republicans govern.

Somewhere in there my views and your views are represented and respected, that is the diffrence.

Now compare that to Cuba, one leader, one party state.

Just look at his intransigent nature in Cuba on political democratic reforms like we have in our nations of origin
or adopted nation in my case.

Over 47 years and counting as dictator for life.

I hope I have proven at least that much.

La Habana Cuba, are you.. by any chance.. related to.. UNA?

Tito Josip Broz.

La Habana Cuba, are you.. by any chance.. related to.. UNA?

IL Ruffino is offline right now, so can anyone post me what is UNA? Or who is UNA? I really would like to know.

IL Ruffino is offline right now, so can anyone post me what is UNA? Or who is UNA? I really would like to know.
UNA is short for the UN abassadorship, i.e. me, at least thats the most common use of it.

- snip -

Europeans like dictatorships. They have a long track record in that respect.

UNA is short for the UN abassadorship, i.e. me, at least thats the most common use of it.

The point I am trying to make is very simple, If you and I were Cuban Citizens under Fidel, we would not have the right to disagree with any government policy or any means to try do anything about it, we would not even be sharing our diffrent views on it on a site like Nationstates because Fidel would not allow it, because that is Fidel's nature.

Gracias for your Post, now I know its you.
Gracias.

The point I am trying to make is very simple, If you and I were Cuban Citizens under Fidel, we would not have the right to disagree with any government policy or any means to try do anything about it, we would not even be sharing our diffrent views on it on a site like Nationstates because Fidel would not allow it, because that is Fidel's nature.

Gracias for your Post, now I know its you.
Gracias.
De Nada

President Jeb Bush.


Jeb? Haven't the states suffered enough without going for the trifecta?

Other

Fidel is a communist dictator (2 points against him there, Communism being a foolish, unrealistic ideology, and dictatorships being another one of those things that disqualifies you from receiving my vote)

I'd vote for a moderate righty or libertarian, a moderate to extreme non-totalitarian leftist, or hell, a technocrat, before I voted for Fidel.

I voted for Fidel! Yes! For once I did something even crazier than Lunatic Goofballs!

You know who you really need? President Jed Bartlett, thats who.

I have always wanted to do this thread, Fidel Castro for USA President or other.

Post your other and why.

Compare Fidel and your other, if you wish too.
You truly have lost what little mind you seem to have had. WTF, over?? :mad:

Other

Fidel is a communist dictator (2 points against him there, Communism being a foolish, unrealistic ideology, and dictatorships being another one of those things that disqualifies you from receiving my vote)

I'd vote for a moderate righty or libertarian, a moderate to extreme non-totalitarian leftist, or hell, a technocrat, before I voted for Fidel.
Hell! I'd vote for frakking Jeffry Dahmer before I'd vote for Fidel! :p

i'd vote nader before fidel :sniper:

Europeans like dictatorships. They have a long track record in that respect.

So that explains why our Euro friends keep voting for the US to have a dictator for president...

Bush or Castro, that's such a hard choice! :(

Depend who the other is.

Castro is not the worst leader of the world, but he's far from perfect. I would prefer Castro to any right-wing nut like Bush, but I would prefer a candidate from the real left who is more intro democracy and rights than Castro. Someone like Kucinih (sp ?) maybe. Or an Allende-like president, even if that's rare in USA.

That's fucking it!

I am so fucking sick of hearing you spoiled children cry about the religious!

We are just a few years away from being attacked by real religious zealots on 911 and yet you classless fuckwads continue to throw this term around gleefully like the tasteless, moronic asswads you are!

I would like one of to list how the religious right has denied you anything in life. The only thing the Christian right is involved in is Abortion. and OOOOOHHHH excuse me for that!

1/4 the world is screaming Die for Islam, setting off car bombs, Killing people for converting to Christianity and not to mention the way they treat women. And there you sit calling names for political advantage. You ave no shame, pride, class or apparent reasoning skills.

Just keep on choking down that Far left mantra and look around and see who your are aligned with. radical Islamists, Communists, A United Nations full of corrupt, backslapping dictators and genocidal freaks. You are so clouded by hate that you can't even see the truth in front of your faces.

Grow the fuck up.

. You are so clouded by hate that you can't even see the truth in front of your faces.

oh the irony

I have always wanted to do this thread, Fidel Castro for USA President or other.

Post your other and why.

Compare Fidel and your other, if you wish too.

Fidel can't be president of the US unless he was born in the US.

oh the irony
It's not "ironic" at all. There are a great number of people who feel much the same way.

I'd rather have a woman as a president than Fidel.:eek:

Other.

Collectivists need to die.

Now.

Not American, not Canadian, and not fitting into any of those options, because: I'd vote for Castro over many others (including Bush), but I'd rather not, and I still think many American candidates and possible candidates are better than him.

No, I am not a communist. But given neocons, I take an all-in-all benign caudillo.

To answer this question the best, let me pose you this question:

How many Americans have risked their lives to flee to Cuba?

How many Cubans have risked their lives to flee to the USA?

We NEED communism in America! I say good ol' Fidel should run for President! He has my vote!

We NEED communism in America! I say good ol' Fidel should run for President! He has my vote!
So you want an ideology that has killed at least 150,000,000 people living in the countries that have gone with Communism, you my friend needd a brain transplant

So you want an ideology that has killed at least 150,000,000 people living in the countries that have gone with Communism, you my friend needd a brain transplant
Why I want a communist president? He will reward all of us loyal communists when he comes into power. That's what Stalin did! And then he killed them all. Ahh well. I'll kill him first.

To answer this question the best, let me pose you this question:

How many Americans have risked their lives to flee to Cuba?

How many Cubans have risked their lives to flee to the USA?
Yes, and Mexico too is a bloody dictatorship. And so is every country where people dream of going to the Western World because they are poor. And, as we all know, an embargo should improve a nation's economy, and not offer an excuse to the countries which fall into that definition, but actually have a dirigiste system etc etc.

Hurrah for American logic. Hurrah for propaganda.

Fidel Castro is the LAST person I'd want to be my president. Well, maybe second-to-last because of Adolt Hitler, or, even worse... DICK CHENEY! I'd vote for Jello Biafra for President in a heartbeat though. Just take a look at my nation's flag. My nation is Marxxeville.

So you want an ideology that has killed at least 150,000,000 people living in the countries that have gone with Communism, you my friend needd a brain transplant
It is extremely risque and highly sophistic to add numbers for things that have very little in common. Not a fan of communism, but my education tells me that the Khmer Rouges together with Todor Zhivkov just doesn't make sense. Hell, even "Khmer Rouges and Stalin" doesn't work in the same sentence!

The logic of an "Evil Empire". Seems it still works.

As a private NS Citizen, with the right to vote, all I can say is,

Well, I let both my similar threads die the last time around so you all cant blame me for this time around the forums.

I guess the honor goes to UNA, Megaloria or other not too sure.

How did you find it?. I guess you must have gone into my profile and post it on it, anyway, I am honored.

Actually, I am very happy with the reposnse of both threads, doing as well as they have done.

I get to RP my NS Elections Council President elections results report by regions, once or twice or so again.

Again all I can say to the Fidelista voters is if Fidel were to be able to become President of the USA, he would try to become a dictator for life, as that is his nature.

This would be the last free election you all would ever vote on for the rest of your lifes'.

And live happy ever after under Fidel for life, like it or not.

Like in Cuba, 47 years and counting, dictator for life.

For those who would say the same thing about President Bush, Bush would not even come close in this nature to Fidel.

President Bush will leave office when the term expires
in about two years.


Quote:
Originally Posted by La Habana Cuba
The point I am trying to make is very simple, If you and I were Cuban Citizens under Fidel, we would not have the right to disagree with any government policy or any means to try do anything about it, we would not even be sharing our diffrent views on it on a site like Nationstates because Fidel would not allow it, because that is Fidel's nature.

As NS Elections Council President, my job is to report the election results fairly and honestly.

Remember, no matter what the results in any elections, it is your right to vote that counts.

All regions possible have been represented, as it is interesting to see the diffrences by regions.

I love Math, Accounting, Bookkeeping, Statistics, Systems,
History, Geography, Economics, Politics, and I am a Copy Holic.

La Habana Cuba,

NS Elections Council President

Gracias

have serious fun with this one, vote for Fidel or Other, post your Others.

I vote Others, Presiden Ronald Reagan.
President Jeb Bush.
President George W Bush.
President George H Bush.

Compare your others to Fidel.Besides Reagan. You must be the biggest Bush fan aren't you? :p

Btw for "others", it would be somebody who isn't a Jesus freak, don't go around fucking up other countries, and is 100x smarter than Bush. Doesn't matter if he's a Democrat or a Republican.

Besides Reagan. You must be the biggest Bush fan aren't you? :p

Btw for "others", it would be somebody who isn't a Jesus freak, don't go around fucking up other countries, and is 100x smarter than Bush. Doesn't matter if he's a Democrat or a Republican.

The only President I really love is President Ronald Reagan the greatest President ever, LOL, and I am not LOL about it, I am serious, for he loved America, his native land.

Rest in Peace, President Ronald Reagan.

I make this post in honor of the First Lady, Nancy Reagan, for they loved and love each other deeply.

La Habana Cuba

Honestly, I would like to see someone in office that is pro-freedoms rather than pro-whatever I think is right. Seriously, I dispise the left for it's Mother-knows-best authoritarian attitudes and I dispise the right for it's pro-fundamentalist authoritarian attitudes. How about getting someone in who is pro- as free a country as we can attitude. Isn't this the framework the US was built on? Besides that, I am sick of constantly having my rights in limbo because there are those out there who are more than happy to tell me what I can and cannot do! If you do not like it DON'T F$%KING DO IT!!!

As the host of this thread, I dont care if anyone else votes or posts on it, that is up to you.

I am very very happy that both of my similar threads have done as good as they have.

Alot of persons on this forum, seemed to like Fidel before my thread.

I wanted to see who would vote for Fidel, and who would vote for Bush.

its up to you to determine thier nature.

On this thread, who would vote for Fidel, what you really think of Fidel.

You all know my views.

I let both threads die the last time, and someone let them out, LOL.

Perhaps this thread should have been called "Fidel for President of the Universe."

Perhaps this thread should have been called "Fidel for President of the Universe."

I was thinking for NS President of the world.

But NS President of the USA sounded better, more interesting.

I have to admit, I really lost my mind, I out did myself this time, this one is going to be hard to top, LOL.

Well update this post, later with a new post.

I have to go for now, more later.

The last official report.

Fidelistas ------------- Others ----- Diffrences By
Americans 07 17.95 - 32 82.05 --- 32 64.10
Canadians 06 75.00 - 02 25.00 --- 02 50.00
Europeans 16 59.26 - 11 40.74 --- 11 18.52
Australians03 75.00 - 01 25.00 --- 01 50.00
----Others 00 00.00 - 01 100.00 -- 01 100.00

Fidelistas 32 40.51 - Others 47 59.49 -- 18.98

Americans 39 49.37
Canadians 08 10.13
Europeans 27 34.18
Australians04 05.06
----Others 01 01.26

79 NS Citizens

All regions possible have been represented in the polls,
as it is interesting to see the diffrences by regions.

Please remember that no matter what the results,
what matters is your right to vote in a free nation.

I have enjoyed this RP,
as your NS Elections Council President.

I love Math, Accounting, Bookkeeping, Statistics, Systems,
History, Geography, Economics, Politics,
and I am a Copy holic.

La Habana Cuba, NS Elections Council President.

Gracias

Last Official Report.

the 'loyal fortress' is a remarkable survivor, but he's also an old man and i doubt very much that he's totaly immortal.

i'll take any street person choosen by lotery over bush though, or the intrests that actualy control him and that he represents.

=^^=
.../\...

As a private NS Citizen all I can say
to all the Fidelista voters is,
you have just voted for,

Fidel the one that would take your right to vote and choose, the one that would not respect your right to disagree with any government policy, and would not give you the means to challenge, or change any government policy.

And would not allow a site like Nationstates to exist for you to share your economic, political and social points of views with others, if he could find a way.

Because that is Fidel's nature.

In this nature, Bush dosent come anywhere near Fidel.

As I have posted this is the last Official Report,
and I will let this thread die,
this is an open time poll.

Gracias

La Habana Cuba

NS Elections Council President