NationStates Jolt Archive


How disabled is disabled enough?

Drunk commies deleted
07-04-2006, 16:57
A man with no legs was told that he had to report to a job picking asparagus. Somehow I don't think most asparagus fields are wheelchair-friendly. Also a woman with no arms or legs was denied full benefits for "not being disabled enough".

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1793777.html?menu=
Carisbrooke
07-04-2006, 16:59
It is not the first time the German welfare office has come under fire for its treatment of people with disabilities.

Last year a woman with no arms and no legs was told she could not get full handicapped benefits because she was not disabled enough.
WHAT? Do you need to be in a coma or something? Unreal
Soviet Haaregrad
07-04-2006, 16:59
A man with no legs was told that he had to report to a job picking asparagus. Somehow I don't think most asparagus fields are wheelchair-friendly. Also a woman with no arms or legs was denied full benefits for "not being disabled enough".

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1793777.html?menu=


And here I was hoping they'd pay me for having ADD. :(
Lacadaemon
07-04-2006, 17:01
I'm actually surprised at how far the germans have come.

Really. This is a huge step forward for them. Not so long ago they were putting the disabled into execution camps, now they are just denying them social security.

So a big thumbs up.
Jeruselem
07-04-2006, 17:03
I suppose you'd have to have no arms, no leg, be blind, be deaf and have diabetes to be classified as disabled ...
DrunkenDove
07-04-2006, 17:05
So a big thumbs up.

Oddly, you hear a lot about how the German welfare budget is bloated and needs cutbacks, and then you hear how you have to practically dead before you get on it.

This means either:

A) The world is mad.
B) I'm insane.

Neither is a pleasant option.
Romanar
07-04-2006, 17:08
Oddly, you hear a lot about how the German welfare budget is bloated and needs cutbacks, and then you hear how you have to practically dead before you get on it.



Do you realize what that means?















German Welfare Zombies! :eek: :D
Tarayshia
07-04-2006, 17:12
I'm glad I live in America..
Germany is rediculous..
I'm blind and I get some services such as job development services, public transpertation getting cheaper fairs..etc.
I know that I'm lucky..very lucky
Seosavists
07-04-2006, 17:13
This means either:

A) The world is mad.
B) I'm insane.

Neither is a pleasant option.
Both, you're insane but at least you fit in.:)
Chaotic Doomatic
07-04-2006, 17:14
Germany is recovering from concentration camps and screwing over minorities and handicpes and what not during world war 2. They killed 6 million innocent people, thats a tough habit to break. Give them a break, they will get over theyre filthy bias eventually.
Bitchkitten
07-04-2006, 17:14
I guess it's easier here in the states. I was accepted as disabled the first try. I can actually do some work, as long as an employer is understanding enough to let me have a few months off here and there for periodic meltdowns.
The Nuke Testgrounds
07-04-2006, 17:15
Well, just recently I saw a video taping of a kid skateboarding, doing some amazing trick, failing (why else would it have been aired :rolleyes: ), breaking both arms upon landing and being rushed to a hospital. Before the story continues, I'd like to indicate this happened in the US.

As he got to the hospital he had to fill in some insurance forms. Obviously this was quite impossible since he had broken both his arms. If you have ever had a broken arm you know that using it, while it's broken, hurts. Bad.

Nevertheless the still had to fill in and sign the forms. His friends weren't allowed to do it for him.


As I watched that my mouth fell wide open and my facial expression would've been soething like this. (http://www.orlyowl.com/rutrippin.jpg)
Tarayshia
07-04-2006, 17:16
Believe me, I do try to fit in.. However my way of looking at it: if it can make your life a bit more easy..why the hell not?
You all would do the same; taking advantage of services that are there for you to use if you're disabled.
The Nuke Testgrounds
07-04-2006, 17:17
Germany is recovering from concentration camps and screwing over minorities and handicpes and what not during world war 2. They killed 6 million innocent people, thats a tough habit to break. Give them a break, they will get over theyre filthy bias eventually.

Jews and gypsies are not innocent!

*runs away before the angry mob can catch him*
IL Ruffino
07-04-2006, 17:17
This is sad.. my friend claims he can't work because he is anti-social.. He gets money from the gov. Guess if he had a leg cut off he would work at wal-mart eh?
Romanar
07-04-2006, 17:18
Well, just recently I saw a video taping of a kid skateboarding, doing some amazing trick, failing (why else would it have been aired :rolleyes: ), breaking both arms upon landing and being rushed to a hospital. Before the story continues, I'd like to indicate this happened in the US.

As he got to the hospital he had to fill in some insurance forms. Obviously this was quite impossible since he had broken both his arms. If you have ever had a broken arm you know that using it, while it's broken, hurts. Bad.

Nevertheless the still had to fill in and sign the forms. His friends weren't allowed to do it for him.


As I watched that my mouth fell wide open and my facial expression would've been soething like this. (http://www.orlyowl.com/rutrippin.jpg)

Simple solution. Put the pen in his mouth. ;)
Tarayshia
07-04-2006, 17:18
Damn, that sucks about that kid. However, I'm not surprised given all these privacy laws and such.
Eutrusca
07-04-2006, 17:23
A man with no legs was told that he had to report to a job picking asparagus. Somehow I don't think most asparagus fields are wheelchair-friendly. Also a woman with no arms or legs was denied full benefits for "not being disabled enough".

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1793777.html?menu=
I was thinking it was another anti-America diatribe. Whew! :)
Romanar
07-04-2006, 17:27
I was thinking it was another anti-America diatribe. Whew! :)

It's good info for the next time a European talks about his "superior" welfare system. :)
The Nuke Testgrounds
07-04-2006, 17:29
It's good info for the next time a European talks about his "superior" welfare system. :)

Well, I don't think the Netherlands have much of a welfare system left in any case :rolleyes:
Lacadaemon
07-04-2006, 17:33
Really though, you can't blame the germans for this. It's clearly something they were forced into against their will because Britian had a large navy in 1896.
Myrmidonisia
07-04-2006, 17:38
I was thinking it was another anti-America diatribe. Whew! :)
Pal, you know this is what a lot of folks want in place in the U.S. It's only a matter of time until they get it, too.
Emsharas
07-04-2006, 17:44
Firstly: I live in Germany

Now about our welfare system, it actually is quite bloated. If you are unemployed and get social help, you have nowadays even a right on tv, telefone and a pc with internet. :headbang:

Hell, i know even a bugger who wont work, because he has all he wants without the need working for it (and there are many of those) :headbang:

You just have to know how to exploit the whole system, like living at your parents house for rent, let the state pay for it, since you are poor, and then
share the money with your parents. :headbang:

You hear about those cases mentioned earlier in the thread, because they are exeptions of the rule. If i have the choice of being poor in Germany and being poor in America, i choose Germany all the way, thank you.

A man with no legs was told that he had to report to a job picking asparagus

I also heard about this case. The Arbeitsamt was acting on old data, and after being informed, they of course took the order back.

PS I really like that head bang smilie
Maineiacs
07-04-2006, 17:49
Believe me, I do try to fit in.. However my way of looking at it: if it can make your life a bit more easy..why the hell not?
You all would do the same; taking advantage of services that are there for you to use if you're disabled.


Exactly. I'm only using these services until I've graduated. Then I'll have a job, and get my own money, at which time I'll stop receiving benefits.