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Alright, this may sound a bit weird but anyway.....

I want to set up a network of people across my city (I live in England btw). It would basically be a kind of "crimewatch" organisation. I know there are already Community Wardens, but they seem to have very limited powers. The organisation I want to set up:


Would use two-way radios to communicate with each other
Would look out for signs of trouble, eg. attacks on people or known criminals, etc.
Would gather together at the scene of any incident
In the case of known criminals, would place themselves at strategic points so that the criminal can be monitored by more than one person, the monitoring being passed onto each person (eg. FOXTROT FOUR is following Criminal A. He/she speaks into his/her radio: "FOXTROT SEVEN, HE'S COMING YOUR WAY" [pause] "FOXTROT SEVEN, DO YOU HAVE VISUAL YET?" As soon as Foxtrot Seven confirms she/he has visual, she/he follows Criminal A and Foxtrot Four stops following), helping to avoid the criminal discovering the person following him
Would intervene in attack situations, using words only at first (which, depending on the amount of people present who are in the scheme, could stop attacks on its own) or use force if necessary, whilst trying to stay within the limits of the law


There would be an online website with details of the scheme and of when to ask for assistance (and how to), so that people would be able to use the system to the same standard. General self-defence info would be posted on the website. There would be a message board on the website.

The network of people would mostly operate undercover. They wouldn't use weapons.

I'm fine with making websites, but does anyone have any idea how to start up a scheme like this?

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oh yeh forgot to mention, would be cool if this eventually spread across the world (obviously would have to use something else instead of radio though, due to the range limit on radios)

You could start by looking at our neighborhood watch programs.

http://www.nnwi.org/

http://www.lapdonline.org/get_involved/neighborhood_watch/neighborhood_watch_main.htm

http://www.charityguide.org/volunteer/fifteen/neighborhood-watch.htm

We also have a group called the Guardian Angels

http://www.guardianangels.org/

You mean people who follow around "criminals" and harass them? Sounds a lot like well...criminals.

You mean people who follow around "criminals" and harass them? Sounds a lot like well...criminals.
Yay for vigilantes and mob rule!

How do I set up a network of people?

I think its probably best that you don't....

If you are interested in helping the community, why not find out about becoming a policeman or a special constable...

Running about the city talking on radios whilst following criminals is not the best idea....

Alright, this may sound a bit weird but anyway.....

I want to set up a network of people across my city (I live in England btw). It would basically be a kind of "crimewatch" organisation. I know there are already Community Wardens, but they seem to have very limited powers. The organisation I want to set up:


Would use two-way radios to communicate with each other
Would look out for signs of trouble, eg. attacks on people or known criminals, etc.
Would gather together at the scene of any incident
In the case of known criminals, would place themselves at strategic points so that the criminal can be monitored by more than one person, the monitoring being passed onto each person (eg. FOXTROT FOUR is following Criminal A. He/she speaks into his/her radio: "FOXTROT SEVEN, HE'S COMING YOUR WAY" [pause] "FOXTROT SEVEN, DO YOU HAVE VISUAL YET?" As soon as Foxtrot Seven confirms she/he has visual, she/he follows Criminal A and Foxtrot Four stops following), helping to avoid the criminal discovering the person following him
Would intervene in attack situations, using words only at first (which, depending on the amount of people present who are in the scheme, could stop attacks on its own) or use force if necessary, whilst trying to stay within the limits of the law


There would be an online website with details of the scheme and of when to ask for assistance (and how to), so that people would be able to use the system to the same standard. General self-defence info would be posted on the website. There would be a message board on the website.

The network of people would mostly operate undercover. They wouldn't use weapons.

I'm fine with making websites, but does anyone have any idea how to start up a scheme like this?

Don't most countries have something like this already. What are they called again? Oh ya. Police Forces :rolleyes: . You can try and join one, but they won't wan't you bringing around your night vision goggles on duty.

Makes sure you have cool berets and patches on your jackets.

Code names ... don't forget code names ... I'd be "Snake".

First you must pay me 1 million dollars.

Do you not have much of a sense of humour by any chance?

.....They wouldn't use weapons......

You must use weapons. Criminals don't listen unless they've been weaponized a bit.

Liasia']Do you not have much of a sense of humour by any chance?

LMAO! This is the funniest thing I've ever heard on NS! :D

Don't most countries have something like this already. What are they called again? Oh ya. Police Forces :rolleyes: . You can try and join one, but they won't wan't you bringing around your night vision goggles on duty.

yeh but they are often rubbish and if you join you gotta give loadsa DNA and stuff, which will most probably be used for bad purposes. Call me daft, but I don't trust the police. Especially when I see stuff like "police took 5 hours on 999 call" (999 being the UK's Emergency Services number)

I think its probably best that you don't....

If you are interested in helping the community, why not find out about becoming a policeman or a special constable...

Running about the city talking on radios whilst following criminals is not the best idea....

well it's not that much different from the "Guardian Angels" scheme... just more advanced, and more undercover. Kinda like spiderman maybe? :) Or ninjas... hopefully most would be trained in some sorta Martial Art.

P.S. The Black Forrest, I'm in the UK :)
But thanks :)

You mean people who follow around "criminals" and harass them? Sounds a lot like well...criminals.

We wouldn't harass them. And it would only be known criminals - ie. convicted ones who have been convicted for something like assault and battery or more serious crimes. And we would only confront them if they attacked anyone.

Salford does not need more idiots running around trying to make trouble. It has enough already.

Salford does not need more idiots running around trying to make trouble. It has enough already.

when did I say it would be in Salford?

when did I say it would be in Salford?

Well

I want to set up a network of people across my city (I live in England btw).
and various facts from your Blog lead to this conclusion. The other possibilities are Manchester - which just makes you megalomaniac as well as psychotic, or Southampton in which case you ought to deal with the MP anyway.

yeh but they are often rubbish and if you join you gotta give loadsa DNA and stuff, which will most probably be used for bad purposes. Call me daft, but I don't trust the police. Especially when I see stuff like "police took 5 hours on 999 call" (999 being the UK's Emergency Services number)

What kind of 'bad' things do you think the police are going to do with your DNA? In all seriousness you can't actually be thinking of starting a vigilante group to follow convicted criminals around, just in case they do something? What kind of person has that much time to waste?

What kind of 'bad' things do you think the police are going to do with your DNA? In all seriousness you can't actually be thinking of starting a vigilante group to follow convicted criminals around, just in case they do something? What kind of person has that much time to waste?

A UK university student.

A UK university student.

:)

Is MP short for Metropolitan Police?

Anyway we don't work 24/7 you know :P

But maybe I'll cut the following people around bit out :)

:)

Is MP short for Metropolitan Police?

Anyway we don't work 24/7 you know :P

But maybe I'll cut the following people around bit out :)

MP = Military Police.

The following people around would just collect ASBOs and waste the court's time.

A UK university student.

Yes, but shouldn't all that spare time be spent on useful things, like drinking and trying to attract the opposite sex?

Yes, but shouldn't all that spare time be spent on useful things, like drinking and trying to attract the opposite sex?

I don't drink (usually). As for attracting the opposite sex, I can still manage that - I'm very good at managing my time....

Mary on Mondays, Tara on Tuesdays, Wendy on Wednesdays.... :)

The following people around would just collect ASBOs and waste the court's time.

Also, ex-cons can get a bit annoyed about people stalking them.

Actually, that would piss me off, nevermind them.

We wouldn't harass them. And it would only be known criminals - ie. convicted ones who have been convicted for something like assault and battery or more serious crimes. And we would only confront them if they attacked anyone.

I don't think that a criminal record justifies you stalking them. If you do stalk them, they should have you arrested and put in jail.

Your scheme is one of the sillier things I have heard around here recently.

Never shall innocent blood be shed, yet the blood of the wicked shall flow like a river. The Three shall spread their blackened wings and be the vengeful striking hammer of God.

:)

Is MP short for Metropolitan Police?

Anyway we don't work 24/7 you know :P

But maybe I'll cut the following people around bit out :)

So what is your super group of uni students going to do if not stalk convicted criminals? Meet weekly and discuss how to waste your time in the least constructive way?

Never shall innocent blood be shed, yet the blood of the wicked shall flow like a river. The Three shall spread their blackened wings and be the vengeful striking hammer of God.
When I raise my flashing sword, and my hand takes hold on judgment, I will take vengeance upon mine enemies, and I will repay those who haze me. Oh, Lord, raise me to Thy right hand and count me among Thy saints.

So what is your super group of uni students going to do if not stalk convicted criminals? Meet weekly and discuss how to waste your time in the least constructive way?

EXACTLY!

Nah, we would just lookout for attacks and use the radios to get assistance when required, then intervene - kinda like Community Wardens, but more advanced, plus if there was enough people, we could work at nights too :D

Never shall innocent blood be shed, yet the blood of the wicked shall flow like a river. The Three shall spread their blackened wings and be the vengeful striking hammer of God.

Now that's what I call an obscure reference.

EXACTLY!

Nah, we would just lookout for attacks and use the radios to get assistance when required, then intervene - kinda like Community Wardens, but more advanced, plus if there was enough people, we could work at nights too :D

Vigilantism, how wonderful. So you are going to wander around with a radio in case somebody gets attacked? When you get charged with assault, please trade your phone call for a few minutes on the net and tell us. :)

Now that's what I call an obscure reference.
Google to the rescue!

Huzzah for vigilanties, protecting the weak/innocent/defenceless in the big city. I think it's a bad idea... but beyond that...


Isn't there any laws against stalking, or privacy laws, or something, to prevent this kinda stuff?

Huzzah for vigilanties, protecting the weak/innocent/defenceless in the big city. I think it's a bad idea... but beyond that...


Isn't there any laws against stalking, or privacy laws, or something, to prevent this kinda stuff?

Shhhh, it'll be funny when he gets arrested for trying to save the city from teh 3vil eX-conz.

How do I set up a network of people?
Offer applicants tight fitting uniforms, shiny stun guns, a wealth of nifty comm devices to choose from, an elaborate conspiracy theory about your police force or government, and a well-developed lingo which allows them to blurt out uselessly encrypted imperatives or requests such as
"FOXTROT SEVEN, HE'S COMING YOUR WAY" [pause] "FOXTROT SEVEN, DO YOU HAVE VISUAL YET?"
Then all you'd need is a logo showing your cool sounding group acronym and stars for dots.

I changed my mind about the following them :P

PEOPLE READ PEOPLE READ!

As for the intervening, it would be within the limits of the law.

As for the uselessly encrypted comment, it would be to distinguish us from other people who may occassionally manage to interfere on whatever channel we're using (I have two-way radios at the moment and occassionally get people interfering when they are used, though they are only 8-channel ones)