56K warning obsolete?
Defiantland
07-04-2006, 03:35
I find it hard to believe there are still a significant amount of people that still use 56K, so I think the whole "warning: 56k" is pointless now. But I need to see how many people actually have that kind of connection...
Forfania Gottesleugner
07-04-2006, 03:37
My supervisor and the people in the outlying towns around here use 56k. Although the phonelines can't even support that in some of the smaller towns. So yes, people do still use it.
Netscape, Netzero and many AOL people still use 56k. Sad but true.
DrunkenDove
07-04-2006, 03:41
I'm running this through my collage network (which stays active even during the night, for some odd reason) which gives acceptable speed but whenever I visit my parents I'm forced to use 56k to communicate.
Dinaverg
07-04-2006, 03:46
Netscape, Netzero and many AOL people still use 56k. Sad but true.
Libel! AOL broadband buddy! :P
Defiantland
07-04-2006, 03:49
Interesting...
Northrop-Grumman
07-04-2006, 04:00
I can use the blessed ethernet (200K+) while I am at college, but at home, I am stuck with the evil 28k dialup...
I've been trying to get wireless broadband but unfortunately there are a few trees in the way between the water tower and my house. Damnit!
Shotagon
07-04-2006, 05:07
You should build a tower (http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8007/sstesttower9vg.jpg). That'd fix them trees.
Potarius
07-04-2006, 05:09
Roadrunner 5.0mbps provided by Earthlink, here.
UpwardThrust
07-04-2006, 05:09
My supervisor and the people in the outlying towns around here use 56k. Although the phonelines can't even support that in some of the smaller towns. So yes, people do still use it.
Before we got wireless out here bout a year ago our top dialup speed was 19.4
UpwardThrust
07-04-2006, 05:13
I can use the blessed ethernet (200K+) while I am at college, but at home, I am stuck with the evil 28k dialup...
I've been trying to get wireless broadband but unfortunately there are a few trees in the way between the water tower and my house. Damnit!
If you have some money there are some directional or high DBi solutions to fix that ... but they are not ... cheep
UpwardThrust
07-04-2006, 05:15
I'm running this through my collage network (which stays active even during the night, for some odd reason) which gives acceptable speed but whenever I visit my parents I'm forced to use 56k to communicate.
Thats because some idiots leave file sharing on 24/7
One day when our packetshaper dropped out our dorms not only ate up all the internet for the entire school but also boiled over and took out the whole upper minnesota area (anything "upstream" of us) just because kazaa (at the time the biggie) is always left on on about 1/3 of our studends computers
Northrop-Grumman
07-04-2006, 05:16
If you have some money there are some directional or high DBi solutions to fix that ... but they are not ... cheepWell, if I had the money I would go for satellite, but I am not willing to pay the $99 a month and $300 setup fee for that so expensive things are not really an option.
I would be the one who mostly foots the bill for it since my family is happy with dialup (except for the whole missed calls thing). And if I could have a tower set up in the backyard, I'd do it but unfortunately my parents have a say in that...
Northrop-Grumman
07-04-2006, 05:19
Thats because some idiots leave file sharing on 24/7
One day when our packetshaper dropped out our dorms not only ate up all the internet for the entire school but also boiled over and took out the whole upper minnesota area (anything "upstream" of us) just because kazaa (at the time the biggie) is always left on on about 1/3 of our studends computersMy university is not too bad with that. We have pretty much unlimited download capabilities and it runs extremely well considering there are 20,000+ students on campus, but the communications dept. has limited uploading to 800Mb per day per two students.
UpwardThrust
07-04-2006, 05:20
Well, if I had the money I would go for satellite, but I am not willing to pay the $99 a month and $300 setup fee for that so expensive things are not really an option.
I would be the one who mostly foots the bill for it since my family is happy with dialup (except for the whole missed calls thing). And if I could have a tower set up in the backyard, I'd do it but unfortunately my parents have a say in that...
DONT DO IT
Sorry we spent a year and a half on satalite ... I hated it (Direcway)
Trust me except for downloading files the speed was worse then 56 k (high latency but high bandwidth)
As for Direcway we only payed 59 a month no setup cost
UpwardThrust
07-04-2006, 05:22
My university is not too bad with that. We have pretty much unlimited download capabilities and it runs extremely well considering there are 20,000+ students on campus, but the communications dept. has limited uploading to 800Mb per day per two students.
Ahh by room
What we do is called packet shaping ... we have a device that looks in each packet ... determines where it is from where it is going and what type of traffic it is ... then ranks them by priority
So we just slow down the bad things like p2p and allow web and ftp and other more normal traffic to eat up way more of our pipe
I mean pulling a linux distro (fedora) last week I was geting 1 mbps actual download speed the whole time.
Northrop-Grumman
07-04-2006, 05:26
DONT DO IT
Sorry we spent a year and a half on satalite ... I hated it (Direcway)
Trust me except for downloading files the speed was worse then 56 k (high latency but high bandwidth)
As for Direcway we only payed 59 a month no setup costOk, thanks for the input. As a matter of fact, Direcway was the service I was looking at since we have DirecTV and its fairly decent.
Perhaps I read something different. I just remember there being the usual $300 setup fee and $99 a month.
UpwardThrust
07-04-2006, 05:28
Ok, thanks for the input. As a matter of fact, Direcway was the service I was looking at since we have DirecTV and its fairly decent.
Perhaps I read something different. I just remember there being the usual $300 setup fee and $99 a month.
Yeah we use dish network
I love the TV dont get me wrong I love satalte tv but internet had an average latency of 1200 ms! There was not a game on the planet you could play online with performance like that
We lucked out and ClearWire entered the area ... they have awsome wireless service
Northrop-Grumman
07-04-2006, 05:35
Yeah we use dish network
I love the TV dont get me wrong I love satalte tv but internet had an average latency of 1200 ms! There was not a game on the planet you could play online with performance like that
We lucked out and ClearWire entered the area ... they have awsome wireless serviceAs of now, there are only 3 ISPs in the area and only 1 has the capability to reach our house, which is 11 miles out of town. We are pretty far out into the rural area but our house sits on top of a hill and there are few trees on our property so we have a nice clear view of the northern sky.
Now I had a technician from the ISP out at our house setting up equipment to test the signal strength. He had told me that we are in an excellent location for the service but there is a small ridge with trees between us and the tower. That is all thats in our way...
Ravenshrike
07-04-2006, 05:42
Libel! AOL broadband buddy! :P
So let me get this straight. You have broadband, but still you choose to use AOL? :headbang:
Shotagon
07-04-2006, 05:45
Ahh by room
What we do is called packet shaping ... we have a device that looks in each packet ... determines where it is from where it is going and what type of traffic it is ... then ranks them by priority How is that working with the newer versions of many filesharing apps using encryption?
UpwardThrust
07-04-2006, 05:52
How is that working with the newer versions of many filesharing apps using encryption?
Intresting ... for the most part
It takes too much processing to un encrypt it and re encrypt it
But then we fail over from data reading to type priority (they cant encrypt the packet headers and such otherwise it would not arive where nessisary) so we just prioritize by information we can find there
There is all kinds of things we can do
There is also the old failover "If ya cant read it throw it in a bucket with a lower priority"
The other encrypted traffic is so low it would not really effect them (well unless they were doing tunneling or something ... then maybe)
UpwardThrust
07-04-2006, 05:54
As of now, there are only 3 ISPs in the area and only 1 has the capability to reach our house, which is 11 miles out of town. We are pretty far out into the rural area but our house sits on top of a hill and there are few trees on our property so we have a nice clear view of the northern sky.
Now I had a technician from the ISP out at our house setting up equipment to test the signal strength. He had told me that we are in an excellent location for the service but there is a small ridge with trees between us and the tower. That is all thats in our way...
See we are a simmilar situation ... we are not high up but we are about 5 miles from the tower. I went with a larger Cisco Directional antenai and I was able to push it solidly
I remember when 56k was the good stuff and my dad had it.
Then we got cable, he got DSL, and I got spoiled.
Now he uses cell phone minutes. He tells me it's about 150kbps and I think it's slow.
UpwardThrust
07-04-2006, 07:00
I remember when 56k was the good stuff and my dad had it.
Then we got cable, he got DSL, and I got spoiled.
Now he uses cell phone minutes. He tells me it's about 150kbps and I think it's slow.
Intresting ... some sort of special pcmcia card? I mean I use my cell to dial up when I work security but I have never seen a cell phone that will break 24 k and only seen the cards to 56