NationStates Jolt Archive

Well, folks, I've been slowly tapering off my interaction on the forums. I'm obsessive and it was simply eating up too much of my time. I finally have to simply draw the line and move away from the keyboard. Life is getting in the way and, to be honest, I can't say I'm upset about it.

I suspect some people seeing this are letting out a quiet sigh of relief. To those people, I offer giggles.

NationStates has made more annoyed, more angry, more disappointed than every other aspect of my life combined over the last couple of years. I've loved every minute of it.

In order to speak on many of the threads I've become interested in, I've had to do tons of research and, as a result, NS has driven me to become very educated on a wide variety of subjects. My gratitude for this is boundless.

I have met many people I consider quite dear to me and many who, to be honest, I'll be glad to never encounter again. I wouldn't trade any of it.

I've always been involved in charity but the people here at NS have made me realize I've been treating a symptom of the problem instead of the problem. I'm much more politically motivated and I intend to become active and changing these issues instead of just bitching about them and helping the victims. Again, I'm grateful.

I would like to personally thank Max(x) Barry, but I doubt I'll ever get that opportunity. Changing the world doesn't always require strong political leaders, hunger strikes and a willingness to suffer for change. Sometimes all it takes a weird guy sitting at a computer trying to think of a way to pay his bills without getting out of his chair. The world is lucky to have this particular weird guy. Thanks, Max.

To the mods, thank you for all your hard work making this game and the forums into a place that allows all of us to come here and do what we do. I believe in the rules you all enforce and the way that you enforce them. I have personally seen how your actions help make the forums a cleaner place for the exchange of ideas. The next time I'm out for a beer I'll have one for y'all and giggle because I think about half of you aren't old enough to drink.

I'm going to continue to maintain my nation because I founded a region and need to protect the natives and I'll be around for approximately another week and probably lurking a bit afterward, but for the most part I won't be posting. Keep having intelligent debates, and if not intelligent make them amusing. I'll be reading them and learning.

Thanks, everyone.

Eric

TG me if you'd like to talk outside of NS. I'm quite happy to email, I just can't get involved in general debates anymore.

You'll be back.

What pot said.

Ciao mate.

Take care of yourself &c.

Sad to see you go. You'll undoubtedly be missed in the Moderation Forum :(

Bye.

Yay! NS has spurred you on to fight the good fight as well! I wonder if any of us will truly leave NS forever...I remember making the same declaration as you about six months ago, but anyway! I'll miss you, and I hope you keep yourself inspired in Real Life. If you need a jolt now and again...whether it be anger, lust or giggles, come back for a bit. I'm not going to say good-bye again...when I start Law School I probably won't have much time here, but I bet anything I'll sneak in once in a while, and I'm sure you will too:)

You'll be back.

Well, to be fair, I'm not actually leaving. I just intend to quit posting. And, trust me, if I have the choice between posting and making out with my girlfriend. you guys lose. Work is getting too busy. And I can't stand half participating. I won't post unless I have the time to research my subject or time to read all of the replies and that's the rub. I can't do it. I simply don't have time. So unless my personality changes dramatically, I don't believe I'll be around here posting with any regularity whatsoever. I hope you guys keep having fun, because reading the threads is something I intend to keep doing.

Thanks for calling me a liar though. ;)

Yay! NS has spurred you on to fight the good fight as well! I wonder if any of us will truly leave NS forever...I remember making the same declaration as you about six months ago, but anyway! I'll miss you, and I hope you keep yourself inspired in Real Life. If you need a jolt now and again...whether it be anger, lust or giggles, come back for a bit. I'm not going to say good-bye again...when I start Law School I probably won't have much time here, but I bet anything I'll sneak in once in a while, and I'm sure you will too:)

Sin, you've done a lot to inspire me. You have a gift and I hope that you finish law school and use it. You have a way to continue to correspond with me and I hope you use that too. If nothing else, perhaps you'll make some law contacts that will be able to come bail me out after I get thrown in jail for refusing to obey laws that violate my civil rights.

Uh, I mean, ignore that last sentence.

Surely you don't think you can escape me that easily, do you? Whenever you see mud or someone gets kicked in the groin, you'll think of me. :)

'Bye Joc... it's been fun. The circa-first NS General Election period, especially. Pity none of the rest of us (well, almost none) have the inspiration or motivation to actually leave for a minute or two and do something IRL.

And when... er, if you do get into jail for civil disobedience, I'll use my immense power and influence to either get you out or keep you there in awful tortures for all eternity... depending on the mood. Cheers you up knowing that, doesn't it? :)

Well, believe it or not I'll miss ya, too. You were one of my more favorite people to debate with. Also, your signature made me feel famous.

Happy trails. I'll bet if we'f actually met in real life you'd agree with me on more than you'd like to think.


-Dan

Sin, you've done a lot to inspire me. You have a gift and I hope that you finish law school and use it. You have a way to continue to correspond with me and I hope you use that too. If nothing else, perhaps you'll make some law contacts that will be able to come bail me out after I get thrown in jail for refusing to obey laws that violate my civil rights.

Uh, I mean, ignore that last sentence.
Thanks Joc...(I know all this saccharine lovey dubby stuff is going to make some people gag, so I warn those people to stop reading)...you've helped calm me down a bit, and to think things out more thoroughly. It's been tough, because sometimes I just want to lash out, but you've helped me keep things in perspective, and that has helped me in real life as well. And hey, you're one of the USians on board here that have forever freed me of my blanket hatred of USians, so you've 'saved' your countrypeople from any future blanket wrath on my part.

It's true what you've said about NS...it really pushes you to get your facts...or just come right and admit that you don't actually feel like being factual or rational that day. Some of the conversations here really make my brain twist around, and I can sure get caught up in convoluted semantics and interpretations, but it's good mental exercise. My feminism, my aboriginality, my respect for diversity (especially sexual/gendered issues) has really solidified, and that has helped hone my purpose as well. You've helped in all of that...oh yeah...I'm not as scared of Christians anymore either:)

So yes, I'll keep in touch...if anything, you can at least have my card when I pass the bar and tell people, "Yeah, this is my Canadian lawyer bitch!"

Surely you don't think you can escape me that easily, do you? Whenever you see mud or someone gets kicked in the groin, you'll think of me. :)

Ha. I was going to actually say actually whenever I see groins, but you edited your post before I could slip that in there, you bastard. Yes, I'll miss many of the lunatics on general and you are one of them.

Alright, let's work up an equation.

[(Word count of farewell post/10)-Average posts per day]/Years on NS
=
Days until return

Bye.

How many of these have you seen, old man?

Alright, let's work up an equation.

[(Word count of farewell post/10)-Average posts per day]/Years on NS
=
Days until return

Isn't years on NS already part of average posts per day? Your equation sucks, man.

And, trust me, if I have the choice between posting and making out with my girlfriend. you guys lose.

Harsh, man, harsh.

ive not been here long, but you've definitely been my favourite non-crazy NS christian :p .

see ya dude and have fun in the real world :D

Thanks Joc...(I know all this saccharine lovey dubby stuff is going to make some people gag, so I warn those people to stop reading)...you've helped calm me down a bit, and to think things out more thoroughly. It's been tough, because sometimes I just want to lash out, but you've helped me keep things in perspective, and that has helped me in real life as well. And hey, you're one of the USians on board here that have forever freed me of my blanket hatred of USians, so you've 'saved' your countrypeople from any future blanket wrath on my part.

It's true what you've said about NS...it really pushes you to get your facts...or just come right and admit that you don't actually feel like being factual or rational that day. Some of the conversations here really make my brain twist around, and I can sure get caught up in convoluted semantics and interpretations, but it's good mental exercise. My feminism, my aboriginality, my respect for diversity (especially sexual/gendered issues) has really solidified, and that has helped hone my purpose as well. You've helped in all of that...oh yeah...I'm not as scared of Christians anymore either:)

So yes, I'll keep in touch...if anything, you can at least have my card when I pass the bar and tell people, "Yeah, this is my Canadian lawyer bitch!"

Yeah, well, you'll have my card as well. If you ever need to design a really smoking contact manager, let me know.

Well, folks, I've been slowly tapering off my interaction on the forums. I'm obsessive and it was simply eating up too much of my time. I finally have to simply draw the line and move away from the keyboard. Life is getting in the way and, to be honest, I can't say I'm upset about it.


Ah, what the hell?

Nationstates is going to be a poorer place to debate, in your absence, my friend. If for no other reason than it drives some people CRAZY that you and I can agree on so much stuff, despite our 'differences'.

Good luck on the 'doing good works' thing.

I think I've got your email addy around somewhere, so - let's don't lose touch, eh?

(Tg it to me again, just in case?)

Isn't years on NS already part of average posts per day? Your equation sucks, man.

In a round about way, yes.

However, I wanted to account for frequency of posts and the time length of posting, and this is the quickest way to make the equation come out with reasonable results.

EDIT: You got a little over two weeks, Joc.

How many of these have you seen, old man?

I wouldn't be exaggerating if I said dozens. The people who make the threads aren't the ones who end up leaving. The people who stay gone are the people who just suddenly disappear from the forum.

Ah, what the hell?

Nationstates is going to be a poorer place to debate, in your absence, my friend. If for no other reason than it drives some people CRAZY that you and I can agree on so much stuff, despite our 'differences'.

Good luck on the 'doing good works' thing.

I think I've got your email addy around somewhere, so - let's don't lose touch, eh?

(Tg it to me again, just in case?)

I'll email you. By the way, when I was reading Max's books, I kept thinking that you sound a bit like him. Makes for a new conspiracy theory, no?

GnI, you're one of my favorite people on NS and one day we will have a beer.

I doubt NS will be poorer without me. Everytime someone leaves there always seems to be someone drawn into filling the void. You keep fighting the good fight. Maybe one day I'll even inspire you to be saved. That'd be something, huh?

Hey, my dad's name is Eric! Dad? Is that why you've been on the computer all night since 2003?

I wouldn't be exaggerating if I said dozens. The people who make the threads aren't the ones who end up leaving. The people who stay gone are the people who just suddenly disappear from the forum.

Triple Dog Dare me, why don't you? You're right that NS is a bit of an addiction for me so I won't ever stop reading it, I think. However, I wanted to say this, because NS has meant a lot to me and I wanted people like you to know it. I'm not lying when I say I feel lucky to have 'met' so many of the people I have on NS. It's particularly because you all mean so much to me and have changed me so much that I have to go and do something about it.

Blame yourselves.

Blame yourselves.Nah. We have disappointed parents to do that for us.

Hey, my dad's name is Eric! Dad? Is that why you've been on the computer all night since 2003?

My uncle's name is Eric. Perhaps I'm my own uncle. Woah!

Actually, my dad's sister is kind of hot, so...

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

I'll email you. By the way, when I was reading Max's books, I kept thinking that you sound a bit like him. Makes for a new conspiracy theory, no?


That's a ridiculous idea. No one would believe it for a second. Besides, I'm not a writer.

GnI, you're one of my favorite people on NS and one day we will have a beer.


We surely shall. Next time they post you down this way, we'll see if we can't meet up. (Unfortunately, your 'neck of the woods' isn't likely to be on my radar anytime too soon). :(

I doubt NS will be poorer without me. Everytime someone leaves there always seems to be someone drawn into filling the void. You keep fighting the good fight.


Always fight the good fight, here and everywhere else.

Once my status is sorted, I'm actually intending to expand my 'fight the good fight' platform some, so don't be too surprised to see a big, scary, English Viking running for some political office. Maybe not in Georgia, though... I might have to relocate if I actually want to do any good.

Maybe one day I'll even inspire you to be saved. That'd be something, huh?

I told you I'm 'saved' already, right?

On the idea of coming 'back to the flock', however, I'm not going to say a definite 'no', and you are more than welcome to keep trying to save my soul... but I don't think it's likely.

If you have to keep ministering to me, in order to keep in touch, however... then, yes, I'm feeling a crisis of faith. :)

Take a break lad. This place can piss you off especially when things are bad in RL. Three to six months seems to be the time for return!

One of us one of us one of us one of us one us!

;)

oh fie. Another person leaving. Admittedly, I've been gone, but I doubt anybody noticed, really. Erm. enough of looking like I'm clamouring for attention. This is your thread :P

You'll be missed. Now there won't be anyone to mistake me with. Have fun with whatever you endeavour.

That's a ridiculous idea. No one would believe it for a second. Besides, I'm not a writer.

I know that to be untrue. Do you not remember our discussions on the subject? Have you not written for your children?

We surely shall. Next time they post you down this way, we'll see if we can't meet up. (Unfortunately, your 'neck of the woods' isn't likely to be on my radar anytime too soon). :(

I don't think it will be long. And once I'm back to work fully, I'm not against making a special trip. It's not very expensive as trips go.

Always fight the good fight, here and everywhere else.

Once my status is sorted, I'm actually intending to expand my 'fight the good fight' platform some, so don't be too surprised to see a big, scary, English Viking running for some political office. Maybe not in Georgia, though... I might have to relocate if I actually want to do any good.

I'm considering doing the same, though I worry that it might expose some of the skeletons my family keeps in the closet. I've been struggling with that lately.

I told you I'm 'saved' already, right?

On the idea of coming 'back to the flock', however, I'm not going to say a definite 'no', and you are more than welcome to keep trying to save my soul... but I don't think it's likely.

If you have to keep ministering to me, in order to keep in touch, however... then, yes, I'm feeling a crisis of faith. :)
I don't minister. My goal is and always been to soften the hearts of everyone that I can so that the scripture and our Lord may speak to them. Unfortunately, there are so many that let their pride and arrogance drive them to harden the hearts of those who might hear. When has hurling accusations about how everyone who disagrees with you is destroying the world ever managed to do anything other than harden hearts.

*cough* I mean, thanks. I'm not going to start a debate here... on purpose.

oh fie. Another person leaving. Admittedly, I've been gone, but I doubt anybody noticed, really. Erm. enough of looking like I'm clamouring for attention. This is your thread :P
I noticed you were gone until PM et al. took up the white text... :p

Take a break lad. This place can piss you off especially when things are bad in RL. Three to six months seems to be the time for return!

One of us one of us one of us one of us one us!

;)

I'm not angry. I just feel like there are things I need to do and debating here isn't high on that list. I owe a debt to this place and I will always visit, I think, but I can't debate here anymore. I simply don't have time.

I know that to be untrue. Do you not remember our discussions on the subject? Have you not written for your children?


Shhhh!


I don't think it will be long. And once I'm back to work fully, I'm not against making a special trip. It's not very expensive as trips go.


If we meet up in Atlanta, or some nearby town, we might even be able to make a small NS gathering... I know Dempublicents and Peech are both (fairly) local... and I believe Vittos is now somewhere in the state... but I don't know which end...


I'm considering doing the same, though I worry that it might expose some of the skeletons my family keeps in the closet. I've been struggling with that lately.


It's a risk... and, from what I can tell... they WILL LOOK for any kind of dirt they can find.

Of course, Clinton is a classic example that if you just say 'SO?' confidently enough, a hsitory of scandal is not automatically bad...

But - If I really want to influence people, and make changes for the better, I'm going to have to get my hands dirty, and devil-take-the-hindmost.


I don't minister. My goal is and always been to soften the hearts of everyone that I can so that the scripture and our Lord may speak to them. Unfortunately, there are so many that let their pride and arrogance drive them to harden the hearts of those who might hear. When has hurling accusations about how everyone who disagrees with you is destroying the world ever managed to do anything other than harden hearts.

*cough* I mean, thanks. I'm not going to start a debate here... on purpose.

:D

Well, I'm not going to be swayed by those 'You are a SEENN-AH and you must REPEY-ENT' arguments... that's just snake-oil, and I'm surprised that still works on anyone these days... ah, but you just can't underestimate people enough, sometimes.

If anything would reach me, it WOULD be the example of Christians living Christlike lives... but, heathen though I am... I live a sight more 'christlike' a life, than MOST of the 'christians' I know...

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Well I have to say that I will miss your presence, but will be happy to know that you are lurking and possibly getting worked up enough about a subject to jump in and crush the opposition :D

Good wishes for your good fight and thanks for being awesomeness. Don't forget... if you are ever in Vegas lemme know and perhaps we can hang out and have a beer and talk about how much we want Sinuhue.

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Well I have to say that I will miss your presence, but will be happy to know that you are lurking and possibly getting worked up enough about a subject to jump in and crush the opposition :D

Good wishes for your good fight and thanks for being awesomeness. Don't forget... if you are ever in Vegas lemme know and perhaps we can hang out and have a beer and talk about how much we want Sinuhue.

I'm quite certain I'll be in Vegas in the near future, actually. Don't worry. I'm still going to be involved in LGBTS army (in fact, that is one of the things I'm looking to focus on). It's time to stop whining and make a change.

Well, folks, I've been slowly tapering off my interaction on the forums. I'm obsessive and it was simply eating up too much of my time. I finally have to simply draw the line and move away from the keyboard. Life is getting in the way and, to be honest, I can't say I'm upset about it.

I definitely understand that. I expect that I might have to make the same decision fairly soon. =( But not yet!

I have met many people I consider quite dear to me and many who, to be honest, I'll be glad to never encounter again. I wouldn't trade any of it.

Can't help but wonder which of these categories I fall into, if either. I'd like to think maybe a little bit of both? =p

Seriously though, you'll be missed. You have been one of the people on here who has made me the most annoyed and angry during debate at times, but also someone I know I have quite a bit in common with. You remind me of some of my friends in that regard. While I don't tend to change much on an issue during a given discussion, much of what you have said has given me food for thought, and eventually modified my position on some issues. I still say that the reason we argued so much was that we tended to agree on the big things, but the devil is in the details. =)

Good luck with your girlfriend and your work - and attempting to stay out of NS General. ((Can't remember if I ever said congratulations in the thread where you told us about your big event at work)).

If you're ever going to be in the Atlanta area, send me a TG. Maybe we could have lunch or something (unless, of course, I'm in the second category =).

All of these people from the Atlanta area. How did I not know Dempublicents and GNI were around Atlanta.

I live in Acworth, ~30 minutes north of Atlanta.

Where are you guys at?

And Jocabia, are you nearby as well?

Once my status is sorted, I'm actually intending to expand my 'fight the good fight' platform some, so don't be too surprised to see a big, scary, English Viking running for some political office. Maybe not in Georgia, though... I might have to relocate if I actually want to do any good.

Come to Paulding County! I'd vote for you at least. =)


I'm quite certain I'll be in Vegas in the near future, actually. Don't worry. I'm still going to be involved in LGBTS army (in fact, that is one of the things I'm looking to focus on). It's time to stop whining and make a change.

What is this "LGBTS army"? I am intrigued. =)

I definitely understand that. I expect that I might have to make the same decision fairly soon. =( But not yet!



Can't help but wonder which of these categories I fall into, if either. I'd like to think maybe a little bit of both? =p

Seriously though, you'll be missed. You have been one of the people on here who has made me the most annoyed and angry during debate at times, but also someone I know I have quite a bit in common with. You remind me of some of my friends in that regard. While I don't tend to change much on an issue during a given discussion, much of what you have said has given me food for thought, and eventually modified my position on some issues. I still say that the reason we argued so much was that we tended to agree on the big things, but the devil is in the details. =)

Good luck with your girlfriend and your work - and attempting to stay out of NS General. ((Can't remember if I ever said congratulations in the thread where you told us about your big event at work)).

If you're ever going to be in the Atlanta area, send me a TG. Maybe we could have lunch or something (unless, of course, I'm in the second category =).

You're in the first, and I've noticed that you tend to hold a position for the duration of the debate and then modify it to a stronger position for the next debate. It's frustrating at times, but I understand why you do it and I respect that you drink these debates in and use them to form your opinions and beliefs. Very respectable.

You are definitely in the first category and I'll try to make sure that I give enough warning when I end up in Atlanta so we can all get together and have lunch or dinner or a drink or do cartwheels or something like that.

All of these people from the Atlanta area. How did I not know Dempublicents and GNI were around Atlanta.

I live in Acworth, ~30 minutes north of Atlanta.

Where are you guys at?

And Jocabia, are you nearby as well?

That's ok - I didn't know you were in GA at all, and it turns out you're quite close to where I live - Dallas. Grave is in the state, I believe, but further north-east of Atlanta.

I'm quite certain I'll be in Vegas in the near future, actually. Don't worry. I'm still going to be involved in LGBTS army (in fact, that is one of the things I'm looking to focus on). It's time to stop whining and make a change.

Would be great to hang out with ya!

Yeah I've had the Army on my mind lately and I plan on putting a lot more focus on it too. It's like a giant boulder sitting on top of a hill... hard to get rolling but once it's moving it's going to cause a lot of havoc! :D

All of these people from the Atlanta area. How did I not know Dempublicents and GNI were around Atlanta.

I live in Acworth, ~30 minutes north of Atlanta.

Where are you guys at?

And Jocabia, are you nearby as well?

Going for the big 1000 posts, there... ;)

I'm about an hour and a half north-north-east of you. That crappy little bit where Jawja collides with BOTH Carolinas.

Think "Deliverance". Really, it was filmed here.

What is this "LGBTS army"? I am intrigued. =)

Check out my sig :)

edit: it's composed of two links btw

All of these people from the Atlanta area. How did I not know Dempublicents and GNI were around Atlanta.

I live in Acworth, ~30 minutes north of Atlanta.

Where are you guys at?

And Jocabia, are you nearby as well?

Jocabia is a wild world traveler who jets around the country saving the world one large integrated system at a time. Currently, I'm stationed on the U of Illinois campus, but I do work all over.

Come to Paulding County! I'd vote for you at least. =)



What is this "LGBTS army"? I am intrigued. =)

We'd love to have you. SB and I both admin there so we can hook you up right away with the good threads and whatnot.

That's ok - I didn't know you were in GA at all, and it turns out you're quite close to where I live - Dallas. Grave is in the state, I believe, but further north-east of Atlanta.

I haven't been down here long, but I have been to Dallas many times. My aunt and uncle live there.

In fact I may be even closer than you think as I live in the Paulding County part of Acworth.

You'll be back. We all come back eventually, sometimes with different names, but we all come back. Nationstates General is like a black hole, or herpes. :D

Come to Paulding County! I'd vote for you at least. =)


You don't even know what platform I'd be running on! :D

Ah well, that's one vote.... how many do I need to 'take' Paulding County, I wonder...?

You'll be back. We all come back eventually, sometimes with different names, but we all come back. Nationstates General is like a black hole, or herpes. :D

Yes, but I've had fewer and fewer outbreaks and I think I'm about to go into remission. All I have to do is eat healthy and keep my stress levels down and it may never come back. ;)

(I used to write medical classes. No, I don't have herpes.)

We'd love to have you. SB and I both admin there so we can hook you up right away with the good threads and whatnot.

Indeed... Jocabia can give you a link to spectacular essay he did on there a while back...

You don't even know what platform I'd be running on! :D

Ah well, that's one vote.... how many do I need to 'take' Paulding County, I wonder...?

I think we should all get together and take over a county. We could spread like a virus, or perhaps a cure.

Going for the big 1000 posts, there... ;)

Yeah, it only gives me about 10,000 total.

I'm about an hour and a half north-north-east of you. That crappy little bit where Jawja collides with BOTH Carolinas.

Think "Deliverance". Really, it was filmed here.

Fitting for an atheist lefty like you.

Hell, I'm an agnostic libertarian and I'm a lefty when I get into political discussions.

Jocabia is a wild world traveler who jets around the country saving the world one large integrated system at a time. Currently, I'm stationed on the U of Illinois campus, but I do work all over.

The Illinois to Georgia trip is not hard. I-24 all of the way.

You don't even know what platform I'd be running on! :D

Ah well, that's one vote.... how many do I need to 'take' Paulding County, I wonder...?

Make it two.

I think we should all get together and take over a county. We could spread like a virus, or perhaps a cure.

Strangely, I've had a similar thought, myself... although I was think it might have to be somewhere like Wyoming, to get a low enough population to push it.

But, the reason that idea occured... you only NEED to get one 'representative' elected to actually start having some official 'weight', at which point you can start pushing issues like religious tolerance, and sexual freedom into the public eye.

And, you stand on a 'controversial' platform like that... the more 'fascistic' elements actually do half your work for you, in their attacks on your platform.

Yeah, it only gives me about 10,000 total.


I was thinking, I'm sure I've actuall READ more than a thousand of your posts... most must have been prior 'incarnations'. :)


Fitting for an atheist lefty like you.

Hell, I'm an agnostic libertarian and I'm a lefty when I get into political discussions.

Maybe Jocabia IS right... maybe we are 'civilising' Georgia... like a benevolent cancer... :)

Make it two.

I'm just sick of the bullshit, you know? The powers-thay-be being ALL corporate-sponsored advocates and lobbyists, in effect... and NO ONE (well, not many) politicians actually STANDING for... or even against... anything.

"And, though I stand for nothing, I will fall for anything"...

Okay... that's two votes... I probably only need another... 18,000 or something. :D

(Oh, and I'd probably have to relocate, too... I imagine).

aw man...

despite the fact that I never actually conversed with you on these forums or otherwise, your posts were always good. I'll miss reading them

I'm just sick of the bullshit, you know? The powers-thay-be being ALL corporate-sponsored advocates and lobbyists, in effect... and NO ONE (well, not many) politicians actually STANDING for... or even against... anything.

"And, though I stand for nothing, I will fall for anything"...

Okay... that's two votes... I probably only need another... 18,000 or something. :D

(Oh, and I'd probably have to relocate, too... I imagine).

That's exactly how I feel. Seriously, I want to talk to you about this, because I'm not willing to be satisfied with just complaining about it.

That's exactly how I feel. Seriously, I want to talk to you about this, because I'm not willing to be satisfied with just complaining about it.

I'm willing to talk about it, Hell, ask my wife... I'm not willing to shut up about it, apparently. :)

So - you see, another reason you gotta stay in touch. :)

Indeed... Jocabia can give you a link to spectacular essay he did on there a while back...

I'm not unwilling to self-promote. Here it is - http://s13.invisionfree.com/LGTBS_Army/index.php?showtopic=21

At least, I like that essay so I hope it's what you're talking about.

I was thinking, I'm sure I've actuall READ more than a thousand of your posts... most must have been prior 'incarnations'. :)

The first VO had 30 posts per day at one point, and it was active for over a year.

Maybe Jocabia IS right... maybe we are 'civilising' Georgia... like a benevolent cancer... :)

We have a lot of work to do.

I'm willing to talk about it, Hell, ask my wife... I'm not willing to shut up about it, apparently. :)

So - you see, another reason you gotta stay in touch. :)

Yes, well, Cathy is about to pop a blood vessel if I don't stop telling her about all the things that rile me up.

I'm not unwilling to self-promote. Here it is - http://s13.invisionfree.com/LGTBS_Army/index.php?showtopic=21

At least, I like that essay so I hope it's what you're talking about.

Yes, that's the one.

Awesome.

I was thinking, I'm sure I've actuall READ more than a thousand of your posts... most must have been prior 'incarnations'. :)

I bet I've read a few thousand of your posts. I'd actually bet I've read more of your posts than any other poster, though Dem and Sin are probably pretty high up there.

Maybe Jocabia IS right... maybe we are 'civilising' Georgia... like a benevolent cancer... :)

Maybe? I'm ALWAYS right. Didn't you know?

Yes, well, Cathy is about to pop a blood vessel if I don't stop telling her about all the things that rile me up.

So... what you're saying is... we NEED to get political, just to save the sanity of our better halves?

Oh - and that 'improving the world for all humanity' thing, to...

I bet I've read a few thousand of your posts. I'd actually bet I've read more of your posts than any other poster, though Dem and Sin are probably pretty high up there.


I might well have RESPONDED to more of your posts, than any other single poster...


Maybe? I'm ALWAYS right. Didn't you know?

I'm noticing a trend. :)

So... what you're saying is... we NEED to get political, just to save the sanity of our better halves?

Oh - and that 'improving the world for all humanity' thing, to...

I think changing the world is easy. Improving the world is the hard part. I figure I've got such a beguiling smile anyway, I might as well use it for something other than making men swoon. Women, on the other hand, tend to look for something sharp to poke me with.

sorry to hear that... :(
but you'll be back! at least, you better be! ;)

Well, folks, I've been slowly tapering off my interaction on the forums. I'm obsessive and it was simply eating up too much of my time. I finally have to simply draw the line and move away from the keyboard. Life is getting in the way and, to be honest, I can't say I'm upset about it.

I suspect some people seeing this are letting out a quiet sigh of relief. To those people, I offer giggles.

NationStates has made more annoyed, more angry, more disappointed than every other aspect of my life combined over the last couple of years. I've loved every minute of it.

In order to speak on many of the threads I've become interested in, I've had to do tons of research and, as a result, NS has driven me to become very educated on a wide variety of subjects. My gratitude for this is boundless.

I have met many people I consider quite dear to me and many who, to be honest, I'll be glad to never encounter again. I wouldn't trade any of it.

I've always been involved in charity but the people here at NS have made me realize I've been treating a symptom of the problem instead of the problem. I'm much more politically motivated and I intend to become active and changing these issues instead of just bitching about them and helping the victims. Again, I'm grateful.

I would like to personally thank Max(x) Barry, but I doubt I'll ever get that opportunity. Changing the world doesn't always require strong political leaders, hunger strikes and a willingness to suffer for change. Sometimes all it takes a weird guy sitting at a computer trying to think of a way to pay his bills without getting out of his chair. The world is lucky to have this particular weird guy. Thanks, Max.

To the mods, thank you for all your hard work making this game and the forums into a place that allows all of us to come here and do what we do. I believe in the rules you all enforce and the way that you enforce them. I have personally seen how your actions help make the forums a cleaner place for the exchange of ideas. The next time I'm out for a beer I'll have one for y'all and giggle because I think about half of you aren't old enough to drink.

I'm going to continue to maintain my nation because I founded a region and need to protect the natives and I'll be around for approximately another week and probably lurking a bit afterward, but for the most part I won't be posting. Keep having intelligent debates, and if not intelligent make them amusing. I'll be reading them and learning.

Thanks, everyone.

Eric

TG me if you'd like to talk outside of NS. I'm quite happy to email, I just can't get involved in general debates anymore.
Seems quite egotistical of you to start a thread about yourself. :rolleyes:

Seems quite egotistical of you to start a thread about yourself. :rolleyes:

Ha. I agree. At the same time, I've been here for several years. If you'd been working at a company or part of any other group for several years, wouldn't you send around an email or make some effort to say goodbye?

Ha. I agree. At the same time, I've been here for several years. If you'd been working at a company or part of any other group for several years, wouldn't you send around an email or make some effort to say goodbye?
Several years? Yeah, I guess that it is kinda long. Ok, then, good luck to you and your future endeavors. aa

Several years? Yeah, I guess that it is kinda long. Ok, then, good luck to you and your future endeavors. aa

For the record, the way threads work when you put the topic in the title is that people who are not interested in discussing the topic can just skip over it. The topic of this thread is clear so it should only attract people who want to actually say goodbye.

I've never in all of my years here figured out why people find it so important to go into a thread to tell us why they don't want to discuss the topic.

Pfft, Jocabia isn't really leaving. He'll be back. None of us can really leave NS.

Seems quite egotistical of you to start a thread about yourself. :rolleyes:
Surely you've been on NS long enough to realise that ego powers this forum?

I've never in all of my years here figured out why people find it so important to go into a thread to tell us why they don't want to discuss the topic.
That is, and shall remain, one of the unsolved mysteries of the universe.

Surely you've been on NS long enough to realise that ego powers this forum?

I'd be happy to use a group TG. Just program that into the game and I'm all over it. I'll wait.

Surely you've been on NS long enough to realise that ego powers this forum?
I don't know why you would say that. And now, I I'll go back to advocating my self-righteous ideas and do my best to humiliate and discredit anyone who dares disagree with me.

Grave, Jacobia, you two ever run for office, you have my votes (is it really sad that both of you probably have only had mild debates with me, if that, yet I've read your posts more than most others on this forum?)


oh, and I thought this forum was fueled by the Id.

Grave, Jacobia, you two ever run for office, you have my votes (is it really sad that both of you probably have only had mild debates with me, if that, yet I've read your posts more than most others on this forum?)


oh, and I thought this forum was fueled by the Id.

Thanks. I really do plan to run for office once I get everything figured out.

I'm glad I've had a chance to get to know you a little bit beyond the persona on General. Please don't change who you are for anyone and I hope you continue to be active for the causes you've chosen to support. It's a pleasure to know you.

Mike, the player behind Sarzonia

This forum is one of the better black holes encountered in the course of life.
Congratulations on your newly found lurker status. I remember enjoying sleep better back in those days.

Pfft, Jocabia isn't really leaving. He'll be back. None of us can really leave NS.

He said he no longer has time for research on topics. That doesn't mean he cannot slum with many of us on what amounts to spam threads. :)

I'm glad I've had a chance to get to know you a little bit beyond the persona on General. Please don't change who you are for anyone and I hope you continue to be active for the causes you've chosen to support. It's a pleasure to know you.

Mike, the player behind Sarzonia

Thanks. I've liked getting to know you too. I'll make GnI come on all the time and tell about how we're conquering, I mean, um, yeah, saving the world.

This forum is one of the better black holes encountered in the course of life.
Congratulations on your newly found lurker status. I remember enjoying sleep better back in those days.

Yes, exactly. I actually founded a nation almost a year earlier than the foundation of this one. Then I LURKED for some time before posting. Ah, the good old days when I still found time to work out and pick up chicks.

Thanks. I've liked getting to know you too. I'll make GnI come on all the time and tell about how we're conquering, I mean, um, yeah, saving the world.


it's all good, surely. Unless the whole nice guy thing is a ruse. OH NO! It's a trap!

*drinks juice*

*dies*

Well, folks, I've been slowly tapering off my interaction on the forums. I'm obsessive and it was simply eating up too much of my time. I finally have to simply draw the line and move away from the keyboard. Life is getting in the way and, to be honest, I can't say I'm upset about it.

I suspect some people seeing this are letting out a quiet sigh of relief. To those people, I offer giggles.

NationStates has made more annoyed, more angry, more disappointed than every other aspect of my life combined over the last couple of years. I've loved every minute of it.

In order to speak on many of the threads I've become interested in, I've had to do tons of research and, as a result, NS has driven me to become very educated on a wide variety of subjects. My gratitude for this is boundless.

I have met many people I consider quite dear to me and many who, to be honest, I'll be glad to never encounter again. I wouldn't trade any of it.

I've always been involved in charity but the people here at NS have made me realize I've been treating a symptom of the problem instead of the problem. I'm much more politically motivated and I intend to become active and changing these issues instead of just bitching about them and helping the victims. Again, I'm grateful.

I would like to personally thank Max(x) Barry, but I doubt I'll ever get that opportunity. Changing the world doesn't always require strong political leaders, hunger strikes and a willingness to suffer for change. Sometimes all it takes a weird guy sitting at a computer trying to think of a way to pay his bills without getting out of his chair. The world is lucky to have this particular weird guy. Thanks, Max.

To the mods, thank you for all your hard work making this game and the forums into a place that allows all of us to come here and do what we do. I believe in the rules you all enforce and the way that you enforce them. I have personally seen how your actions help make the forums a cleaner place for the exchange of ideas. The next time I'm out for a beer I'll have one for y'all and giggle because I think about half of you aren't old enough to drink.

I'm going to continue to maintain my nation because I founded a region and need to protect the natives and I'll be around for approximately another week and probably lurking a bit afterward, but for the most part I won't be posting. Keep having intelligent debates, and if not intelligent make them amusing. I'll be reading them and learning.

Thanks, everyone.

Eric

TG me if you'd like to talk outside of NS. I'm quite happy to email, I just can't get involved in general debates anymore.Well said, sir, well said. Go get 'em, soldier.

Goddamn it. Well, good night but not goodbye.

it's all good, surely. Unless the whole nice guy thing is a ruse. OH NO! It's a trap!

*drinks juice*

*dies*

There are a few people I've hospitalized in my lifetime who would argue that it is a ruse. That aside, being kind is very important to me. I've got a lot to make up for in my life and I would be wronging the people that saved me by not living up to my potential on that end.

Even beyond that, I want the world to encourage the people who are like the people who saved me and currently it doesn't. It's because of those people I'm here with the power to make a difference instead of a statistic.

I intend to use my presence to make the world better for them, for people like them and for myself. I believe that starts first and foremost by being kind.

Unfortunately, I'm flawed and I often find myself being kind of an arse. I've admitted as much in many threads and I admit it here as well. I argue with a lot of passion, but even a player whose ideas I've attacked vehemently and viciously in one or many threads would get a lift from me if they tripped, a meal if they were hungry, a strong back if their load was too heavy or a shoulder if they needed to shed a tear.

I do it because I believe attitudes really are contagious and I know that these are all things I've needed in the past and will need in the future, as will my family, my friends, all of you. Among the plethora of reasons I am who I am, I do it because somebody is going to and it might as well be me.

There are a few people I've hospitalized in my lifetime who would argue that it is a ruse. That aside, being kind is very important to me. I've got a lot to make up for in my life and I would be wronging the people that saved me by not living up to my potential on that end.

Even beyond that, I want the world to encourage the people who are like the people who saved me and currently it doesn't. It's because of those people I'm here with the power to make a difference instead of a statistic.

I intend to use my presence to make the world better for them, for people like them and for myself. I believe that starts first and foremost by being kind.

Unfortunately, I'm flawed and I often find myself being kind of an arse. I've admitted as much in many threads and I admit it here as well. I argue with a lot of passion, but even a player whose ideas I've attacked vehemently and viciously in one or many threads would get a lift from me if they tripped, a meal if they were hungry, a strong back if their load was too heavy or a shoulder if they needed to shed a tear.

I do it because I believe attitudes really are contagious and I know that these are all things I've needed in the past and will need in the future, as will my family, my friends, all of you. Among the plethora of reasons I am who I am, I do it because somebody is going to and it might as well be me.
Ever thought about hitting the 10,000 post mark before you leave?

Thanks. I really do plan to run for office once I get everything figured out.
hit me up if you ever do. Hell, hit me up anyway if you care to...you keep me entertained and informed. not an easy task. Just ask my profs.

Ever thought about hitting the 10,000 post mark before you leave?

Um, no. There's a chance that I will slowly get there through my small contribution on the UN forum, but I don't really care about post count. I suspect talking less and listening more will do me some good.

I think you'll be back, and I certainly hope that you will. I have always enjoyed your intelligent, well thought-out posts and your passionate commitment to your principles. NS needs more people like you. I'll also be very curious to know how you get involved in the real world to make positive changes. Please keep NSG in the loop on any news.

Good luck and happiness in everything you do, and don't be a stranger,

Jen. :)

Its been a privilege, hope you come back some day.

I'm not unwilling to self-promote. Here it is - http://s13.invisionfree.com/LGTBS_Army/index.php?showtopic=21

At least, I like that essay so I hope it's what you're talking about.
Outstanding essay. If you and GnI need votes, I know people here in equal-marriage-rights-battle Massachusetts would be happy to temporarily relocate to your counties to vote in your elections. Some of us did that in the last presidential election. Not enough of us, though. :(

Seriously, if you guys are getting active about this, I want updates. And if you need campaign promo graphics, TG me. I can hook you up.

I'll be around for approximately another week and probably lurking a bit afterward, but for the most part I won't be posting.
Nooooooo! [ hopes he's not one of those you'll be happy to miss! ] :(

..if I have the choice between posting and making out with my girlfriend..(in a way)..A couple of times I have managed to do both simultaneously
:D :D :eek: :D

Aw man, no way...

You were always really nice, and you made sense (and fought the 'good fight')...

Sad to see you leave :( .

(Although you'll be back :p )

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!

Fine ... leave .... we don't need you here anyway.

*sigh*

Everyone I started with on these forums has either died, gone republican, or left.

Keruvalia stands alone!

Keruvalia stands alone!
'Swhat you get for refusing to bathe on a regular schedule.
*nods*

'Swhat you get for refusing to bathe on a regular schedule.
*nods*

But I bathe with other people!

I refuse to bathe alone ... it's beneath me.

But I bathe with other people!

I refuse to bathe alone ... it's beneath me.
The problem is, the longer you go without a bath, the less likely that people will want to bathe with you. Maybe if you didn't also refuse to use deoderant it wouldn't get so bad until around Day #15 of your search, but as it stands now . . . eh, you're not making your position on anything look all that appealing.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!

Fine ... leave .... we don't need you here anyway.

*sigh*

Everyone I started with on these forums has either died, gone republican, or left.hmmm.. fascinating

What if one morning I wake up "republican"..

hmmm.. fascinating

What if one morning I wake up "republican"..

Then you'd be among the lost.

Well, folks, I've been slowly tapering off my interaction on the forums. I'm obsessive and it was simply eating up too much of my time. I finally have to simply draw the line and move away from the keyboard. Life is getting in the way and, to be honest, I can't say I'm upset about it.

I suspect some people seeing this are letting out a quiet sigh of relief. To those people, I offer giggles.

NationStates has made more annoyed, more angry, more disappointed than every other aspect of my life combined over the last couple of years. I've loved every minute of it.

In order to speak on many of the threads I've become interested in, I've had to do tons of research and, as a result, NS has driven me to become very educated on a wide variety of subjects. My gratitude for this is boundless.

I have met many people I consider quite dear to me and many who, to be honest, I'll be glad to never encounter again. I wouldn't trade any of it.

I've always been involved in charity but the people here at NS have made me realize I've been treating a symptom of the problem instead of the problem. I'm much more politically motivated and I intend to become active and changing these issues instead of just bitching about them and helping the victims. Again, I'm grateful.

I would like to personally thank Max(x) Barry, but I doubt I'll ever get that opportunity. Changing the world doesn't always require strong political leaders, hunger strikes and a willingness to suffer for change. Sometimes all it takes a weird guy sitting at a computer trying to think of a way to pay his bills without getting out of his chair. The world is lucky to have this particular weird guy. Thanks, Max.

To the mods, thank you for all your hard work making this game and the forums into a place that allows all of us to come here and do what we do. I believe in the rules you all enforce and the way that you enforce them. I have personally seen how your actions help make the forums a cleaner place for the exchange of ideas. The next time I'm out for a beer I'll have one for y'all and giggle because I think about half of you aren't old enough to drink.

I'm going to continue to maintain my nation because I founded a region and need to protect the natives and I'll be around for approximately another week and probably lurking a bit afterward, but for the most part I won't be posting. Keep having intelligent debates, and if not intelligent make them amusing. I'll be reading them and learning.

Thanks, everyone.

Eric

TG me if you'd like to talk outside of NS. I'm quite happy to email, I just can't get involved in general debates anymore.
that sucks, my condolances

Thanks. I really do plan to run for office once I get everything figured out.

As do I... if I can manage to convince Georgians to vote for a Limey. :)

I'm not sure how Sarkhaan can vote for BOTH of us, though... unless he's registered to vote in two different areas.... ;)

I'll be sorry to see you go. Intelligent debate here is a rare commodity, and those who can make their points without resorting to name calling even rarer still. And you have always been a class act for the most part. Thank you for all your contributions. This forum is a better place for your having been here.

Then you'd be among the lost.

Not really. There are always liberals around to tell you where to go.

Not really. There are always liberals around to tell you where to go.
And, of course, your own party, given its joined-at-the-hip (*nudge*) status with the apocalyptic fundamentalists. :D

Farewell Jocabia, I hardly knew ye.

Don't even know how you feel about penguins...

:fluffle: (Because the Fluffle is back! :D )

Hey Jocabia- I havent run into you much lately, but remember some laughs we had a while back.

Best wishes to you in your real life plans & dreams. Hope you find hapiness and success. :D

You'll be back.

We'd love to have you. SB and I both admin there so we can hook you up right away with the good threads and whatnot.

Joined... =)

Don't know how much time I'll have to spend there today, but I'll be checking it out as time goes on.

As do I... if I can manage to convince Georgians to vote for a Limey. :)

I'm not sure how Sarkhaan can vote for BOTH of us, though... unless he's registered to vote in two different areas.... ;)

I'll just register in Chicago. There my great, great, great grandparents still vote. ;-)

Joined... =)

Don't know how much time I'll have to spend there today, but I'll be checking it out as time goes on.

I bumped a couple of good threads, but in my very BIASED opinion there are very few threads there not worth taking a look at.

I bumped a couple of good threads, but in my very BIASED opinion there are very few threads there not worth taking a look at.

Joined also. Enough with the lurking alrady. :)

I noticed. I'm Tienji there, in case you didn't figure it out.

By the way, this thread has shown exactly why I don't feel arrogant in creating it. I suspected I would get all the usual suspects saying goodbye and pretty much no one else. I'm not Tink and I know it. I didn't think creating a thread would actually make people come out of the woodwork crying about the loss of Jocabia.

I noticed. I'm Tienji there, in case you didn't figure it out.


I figured. :) I'm the one pimping your work, remember?


By the way, this thread has shown exactly why I don't feel arrogant in creating it. I suspected I would get all the usual suspects saying goodbye and pretty much no one else. I'm not Tink and I know it. I didn't think creating a thread would actually make people come out of the woodwork crying about the loss of Jocabia.

I cried. :(

I figured. :) I'm the one pimping your work, remember?



I cried. :(

Ha. I'm sure you did. I'll still be reading threads. I've very much enjoyed NS. It's a great game and the forums are truly run well. Despite the objections of my some people who don't like me much, I think the mods do an excellent job of keeping it relatively clean and civil.

TG.

Ha. I'm sure you did. I'll still be reading threads. I've very much enjoyed NS. It's a great game and the forums are truly run well. Despite the objections of my some people who don't like me much, I think the mods do an excellent job of keeping it relatively clean and civil.

TG.

TG revenge.

I've been on a few forums... and NS Gen has been one of the very highest quality I've seen, with (perhaps not coincidentally), some of the very worthiest adherents. It shall be a shame to see you go. The Army of Light will be that much poorer in our conflicts, from now on.

Don't go! Obsession is good. I like lurking about and reading your posts.

TG revenge.

I've been on a few forums... and NS Gen has been one of the very highest quality I've seen, with (perhaps not coincidentally), some of the very worthiest adherents. It shall be a shame to see you go. The Army of Light will be that much poorer in our conflicts, from now on.

I'm sure you'll be fine and I would argue the same about NS. I think they did an excellent job of creating a playground for a varied group of people looking to interact with others in very real way. I can't say enough about the efforts of Max Barry and the mods at creating and enforcing the rules.

Don't go! Obsession is good. I like lurking about and reading your posts.

Well, now I intend to do the same to you. Nyah!

hmmm.. fascinating

What if one morning I wake up "republican"..Then you'd be among the lost.Thats what Philadelphia said when the Cowboys signed up T.O. :D :D :cool: :D

Nooooooo! [ hopes he's not one of those you'll be happy to miss! ] :(

Eut, you are one of the few personalities I actually talk about to REAL people. I will be happy to miss you, but only because it means I have sense enough to miss you. I don't always agree with you, but I do respect you. You make think of some of the Master Sergeants that used to annoy me with their views but who I think about all the time now that I'm no longer in their unit. Given the opportunity, I'd serve under those guys or you anytime (hopefully to hand out food to the hungry or help put out sandbags or something).

Okay, week's up. Thanks, everybody.

"The End" is playing in my head and I thought it was repeating until I realized it's just that long and I'm obsessive enough that I have to actually let the entire thing play.