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NEW YORK - Scientists have caught a fossil fish in the act of adapting toward a life on land, a discovery that sheds new light one of the greatest transformations in the history of animals.

Researchers have long known that fish evolved into the first creatures on land with four legs and backbones more than 365 million years ago, but they’ve had precious little fossil evidence to document how it happened.

The new find of several specimens looks more like a land-dweller than the few other fossil fish known from the transitional period, and researchers speculate that it may have taken brief excursions out of the water.
Link (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12168265/)
:)

*does pushups to celebrate discovery*

Too bad this couldn't have been oil... :(

Too bad this couldn't have been oil... :(
Fish monster liver oil?

'nother link (with other/more pictures) here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4879672.stm

:) awesome. another point for evolution...

That fuckin' mean ass fish will eat your whole feets off your leg. ;)

It's part of God's plan. If God wanted fish to live in the sea, he wouldn't have created Norwegians and Japanese.

Same goes for whales.

That fuckin' mean ass fish will eat your whole feets off your leg. ;)
AHHH Not me feets!

So if you want to catch these fish do you hunt or fish?


It's part of God's plan. If God wanted fish to live in the sea, he wouldn't have created Norwegians and Japanese.

Same goes for whales.And Spanish

That's awesome. It made my day. I love you, Darwin!!!:fluffle:

Damned Spanish! Stealin all our fish monsters!

So if you want to catch these fish do you hunt or fish?
You fish it, but when you put it in the boat you have to hunt it, otherwise it'll run away.

And Spanish
Lo pescas, pero al ponerlo en la lancha lo tienes que cazar, si no se escapa.

Religon 5 Darwin 23.

^-^

I'd like to remind you of a quote from the NEW Bible, "Then God made the platypus, because it had to be the butt of every Darwin joke."

Don't be surprised if this causes cries of terror through the anti-evolutionary world. And home schoolers...

http://wildasia.net/images/380/02_fran_giantSnakehead.JPG

Damned Spanish! Stealin all our fish monsters!
Yeah!

Don't be surprised if this causes cries of terror through the anti-evolutionary world. And home schoolers...
I will be suprised. They have a special knack for ignoring this stuff, when they don't: "God put it there to test us".

Religon 5 Darwin 23.

^-^

I'd like to remind you of a quote from the NEW Bible, "Then God made the platypus, because it had to be the butt of every Darwin joke."
:( :( :( :sniper: :( :D

:( :( :( :sniper: :( :D
excessive use of smilies is illeagal until your 500th post. (J/K)

It's people like you who make me laugh and kick people in the balls. Actually it really is amusing.

...and then I'll go eat dinner like EVERY other day.

Religon 5 Darwin 23.

5 ? What, pray tell, are those 5 ?
And you forgot a few zeros behind 23 ;)

...and then I'll go eat dinner like EVERY other day.
You only eat dinner every other day? Is that a diet or are you just not that hungry?

...and then I'll go eat dinner like EVERY other day.
I recommend the land-fish!

It's people like you who make me laugh and kick people in the balls. Actually it really is amusing.
Why thank you, I'm glad I inspire you to do what you enjoy!

You only eat dinner every other day? Is that a diet or are you just not that hungry?

Haha. I looked at that sentence before I posted it, and that's exactly what I thought. So I tried to rephrase it, but got lazy and figured that no would comment. Way to prove me wrong.

Creationists won't care about this new discovery. They will just say it was a weird species of fish, but not a transitional species between fish and land animals. After all, you didn't physically see the fish evolve into a land animal. Funny thing is nobody ever saw Jeffrey Dahmer kill anyone, but he still got locked up.

Creationists won't care about this new discovery. They will just say it was a weird species of fish, but not a transitional species between fish and land animals. After all, you didn't physically see the fish evolve into a land animal. Funny thing is nobody ever saw Jeffrey Dahmer kill anyone, but he still got locked up.
I think i've also posted about the ambulocetus natans before, so this info is another smilie on my abominable mug.
Now it's time to argue about the hips of the newly-discovered species :rolleyes:

I will be suprised. They have a special knack for ignoring this stuff, when they don't: "God put it there to test us".

i hate that. especially since i think both could be true.

to test you? God spent that much time hiding goodies in the earth so he could test us? why not just, ya know, throw some oppression our way? isn't that easier for God?

i hate that. especially since i think both could be true.

to test you? God spent that much time hiding goodies in the earth so he could test us? why not just, ya know, throw some oppression our way? isn't that easier for God?
Doesn't the record (pardon the pun) speak for itself?

Im sorry to excuse your partying but its only one fossil with a thing that sort of looks like a leg on a fish but hardly, that doesn't mean much

Im sorry to excuse your partying but its only one fossil with a thing that sort of looks like a leg on a fish but hardly, that doesn't mean much
Certainly you're an expert in the field, and are willing to give some context to your statement?

Im sorry to excuse your partying but its only one fossil with a thing that sort of looks like a leg on a fish but hardly, that doesn't mean much

Cuz if it was real, we'd find every single one, because we all know everything fossilizes

Hell yes! Go evolutionary biology! Down with the fundies!

:fluffle: 's all evolutionary scientists.

Im sorry to excuse your partying but its only one fossil with a thing that sort of looks like a leg on a fish but hardly, that doesn't mean much

i mean, come on. one set of dinosaur bones does not make a species.

or an evolution.

Just a note: there is a catfish (exists in the U.S.) that walks today http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Gallery/Descript/WalkingCatfish/WalkingCatfish.html. What a way to debunk evolution!!

Just a note: there is a catfish (exists in the U.S.) that walks today http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Gallery/Descript/WalkingCatfish/WalkingCatfish.html. What a way to debunk evolution!!

Uh-huh...sure...Catfish can be tasty.

After all, you didn't physically see the fish evolve into a land animal.

I did, but those fuckers never believe me.

I don't honestly see why this is such a big deal. We all know evolution occured. Just becuase some idiots on the far right want to still beleive the bible literally, doesn't mean that we to post every new story or throw a fricking party for each new discovery.

I don't honestly see why this is such a big idea. We all know evolution occured. Just becuase some idiots on the far right want to still beleive the bible literally, doesn't mean that we to post every new story or throw a fricking party for each new discovery.

Eh, still fun. And who'd deny an excuse for a big party?

Eh, still fun. And who'd deny an excuse for a big party?


Well mainly it pisses me off. I hate when people boast. As a christian that accepts evolution(through the grace of God), i know what the truth is(evolution) and when i see people mocking those that don't believe the same as us, well it just makes me mad.

I don't honestly see why this is such a big deal. We all know evolution occured. Just becuase some idiots on the far right want to still beleive the bible literally, doesn't mean that we to post every new story or throw a fricking party for each new discovery.

It's not some idiots on the far right. It's a sizeable percentage of the United States population. That's why we care.

It's not some idiots on the far right. It's a sizeable percentage of the United States population. That's why we care.


I disagree. You have biased polling and only hear the radicals on this issue. I think far more people accept..except for kansas..but they are like paris hilton; flat, white, easy to enter and no one really cares about them anymore.

Well mainly it pisses me off. I hate when people boast. As a christian that accepts evolution(through the grace of God), i know what the truth is(evolution) and when i see people mocking those that don't believe the same as us, well it just makes me mad.

When I hear of things like ID, it's like they're just begging to be mocked.

I disagree. You have biased polling and only hear the radicals on this issue. I think far more people accept..except for kansas..but they are like paris hilton; flat, white, easy to enter and no one really cares about them anymore.

Right....except for Kansas...:rolleyes: :p

It's not some idiots on the far right. It's a sizeable percentage of the United States population. That's why we care.

What.. 5%? I doubt that is a sizeable percentage.

What.. 5%? I doubt that is a sizeable percentage.

It's like, 15 million.

It's like, 15 million.


Out of 300 million...

What.. 5%? I doubt that is a sizeable percentage.

15 million people?

What.. 5%? I doubt that is a sizeable percentage.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/22/opinion/polls/main657083.shtml

this was in there:
But most would not substitute the teaching of creationism for the teaching of evolution in public schools.

But like i said..most polls are just crap

Said 37% would, bout 111 million. 65% want both, so that's like 195 million. How crappy can a poll be for it note to be a sizable percent? Sides, 15 million would still be too many if you ask me.

Just a note: there is a catfish (exists in the U.S.) that walks today http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Gallery/Descript/WalkingCatfish/WalkingCatfish.html. What a way to debunk evolution!!
How does it debunk it?

Said 37% would, bout 111 million. 65% want both, so that's like 195 million. How crappy can a poll be for it note to be a sizable percent? Sides, 15 million would still be too many if you ask me.


Well in anycase let people beleive what they want. if they don't want to accept fact, then its their own fault.

Well in anycase let people beleive what they want. if they don't want to accept fact, then its their own fault.

Problem comes when they want to stop me, or other kids from accepting fact.

I was just posting it because I thought it was neato. :)

When I hear of things like ID, it's like they're just begging to be mocked.

I hear that! Seriously though, maybe the guy ought to belief in enlightenment by the grace of God instead of Evolution by the grace of God. What can you do about those people ? :rolleyes:

Just a note: there is a catfish (exists in the U.S.) that walks today http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Gallery/Descript/WalkingCatfish/WalkingCatfish.html. What a way to debunk evolution!!

The overland wriggling of Clarias spp. is not "walking" in the terrestrial tetrapod sense:

The walking catfish (Clarias batrachus), recently introduced into southern Florida, uses its pectoral-fin spines as anchors to prevent jackknifing as its body musculature produces snakelike movements and can progress remarkable distances over dry land.

Another odd catfish, the so-called walking catfish, Clarias batrachus, originally occurred in eastern India and Southeast Asia. In 1968, it was discovered near Boca Raton, Florida, following its import by tropical-fish dealers. Its maximum length is 56 cm (22 in). In "walking" to areas of deeper water in dry spells, this catfish moves by a slithering motion combined with a thrashing of its tail. In addition, a stout spine in each pectoral fin digs into the ground to help balance and propel the fish. It is able to breathe air by means of a modified gill arch that forms an air chamber.

Kindly explain how this (or even existence of a genuine "walking fish") "debunk[s] evolution."

Meh, that fish is just a ripoff of the snakehead.

I hear that! Seriously though, maybe the guy ought to belief in enlightenment by the grace of God instead of Evolution by the grace of God. What can you do about those people ? :rolleyes:


Are you talking about me? Because I will have to e-punch you

It's not some idiots on the far right. It's a sizeable percentage of the United States population. That's why we care.
RAmen to that. *bows*