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That's right. Prime Minister Harper states that weed will remain a crime and if you are caught with even a small amount of it, you'll get a criminal record.

Thank you Harper! Keep your citizens healthy!

That's right. Prime Minister Harper states that weed will remain a crime and if you are caught with even a small amount of it, you'll get a criminal record.

Thank you Harper! Keep your citizens healthy!
He's just going that so it is more profitable for the dealers to sell it.

It is a very minor issue. The problem with making it legal is we are slowing making smoking illegal so I don't see why we want to make weed legal now.

It is a very minor issue. The problem with making it legal is we are slowing making smoking illegal so I don't see why we want to make weed legal now.

Well the liberals wanted it legal but apparently they decided not to go ahead with it.

Well the liberals wanted it legal but apparently they decided not to go ahead with it.

Fine, make it legal. But it will have to more restrictions on it then even smoking, and the taxes will have to be very high. Also, criminal charges for those illegally making it will have to become tougher.

Will be interesting to see how long this Mr Harper keeps his job.

Yay, drug tourism in the Netherlands will keep flourishing :D

Will be interesting to see how long this Mr Harper keeps his job.

Hopefully for 6-8 years.

Yay, drug tourism in the Netherlands will keep flourishing :D
I doubt Vancouver really gives a fuck what Harper says....

I doubt Vancouver really gives a fuck what Harper says....

I think Vancouver should go fuck itself.

I think Vancouver should go fuck itself.
Why?

heres an idea, keep making smoking tobacco illegal but legalise weed. I know i dont need to smoke that shit. I prefer my yogurts, brownies and pipes anyway.

Dumb Idea. Doesn't work, has never worked and will never work.

But it might buy him the votes of a few old people. :rolleyes:

Why?

Because they just should.

Dumb Idea. Doesn't work, has never worked and will never work.

But it might buy him the votes of a few old people. :rolleyes:

Yep, the smart thing to do is to legalize drugs. While making smoking illegal of course because weed does no harm to you.....right and 10-20 years after it becomes legal we will discover the truth about it.

Genesis 1:29 "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth ..."

Why do you hate God so much, Corneliu? Why?

Why?


Because he can spam this forum if he gull durn wull pleases, and you're not the boss of him.

Yep, the smart thing to do is to legalize drugs. While making smoking illegal of course because weed does no harm to you.....right and 10-20 years after it becomes legal we will discover the truth about it.
People have been smoking the stuff heavily since the 60's. If anything serious besides munchie related obeisity was out there you would think we would have figured it out in 40 years.

Yep, the smart thing to do is to legalize drugs. While making smoking illegal of course because weed does no harm to you.....right and 10-20 years after it becomes legal we will discover the truth about it.
I think there's a lot of people who have smoked weed for 12-20 years. Any evidence on their health? You seem to be suggesting weed has had a rather bad effect on them.

People have been smoking the stuff heavily since the 60's. If anything serious besides munchie related obeisity was out there you would think we would have figured it out in 40 years.

Right....tell the four mounties that were murdered that weed doesn't kill.

Right....tell the four mounties that were murdered that weed doesn't kill.
Tell the hobo's that mounties dont kill.

I think there's a lot of people who have smoked weed for 12-20 years. Any evidence on their health? You seem to be suggesting weed has had a rather bad effect on them.

They seem to more stupid, i.e. more left wing. Lazy, social problems, should be put to death, etc.

Good.

Tell the hobo's that mounties dont kill.

Tell the hobo's to go to hell and get a job and stop drinking and to stopdoing drugs. Then they wouldn't be killed in sad incidents. Fucking Mountie Hater.

Tell the hobo's to go to hell and get a job and stop drinking and doing drugs. Then they be killed in sad incidents. Fucking Mountie Hater.


Say it:

"I can troll yur form iffa gull durn wurl please"

NOW

Keeping it illegal is a good idea. I really dont see any decent reason why it should be legalized. There are some people out there that feel strongly about having it legalized, but i would be interested in hearing those reasons.

Say it:

"I can troll yur form iffa gull durn wurl please"

NOW

can trolls not pronounce the u in forum?

People have been smoking the stuff heavily since the 60's.

Lot longer than that. It used to be legal and was in everything imaginable. Louis Armstrong and Ray Charles wrote some songs about it.

It's been a celebrated plant in this country since, well, this country began.

It's even mentioned on at least 3 separate occasions in Tanakh, including a Seraphim giving Isaiah a liquid form of cannabis (called kaneh-bosm biblically) to purge his sins. Pot purges sins. Awesome.

Hmmm...so its illegal still. So they're is hope for Canada after all.

can trolls not pronounce the u in forum?


He's pretending to be a canadian hillbilly from alberta, apparently.

Yep, the smart thing to do is to legalize drugs. While making smoking illegal of course because weed does no harm to you.....right and 10-20 years after it becomes legal we will discover the truth about it.
Afterall, we've got all the technology we've had in the Fifties.

I think there's a lot of people who have smoked weed for 12-20 years. Any evidence on their health? You seem to be suggesting weed has had a rather bad effect on them.

When I was going though high school weed was smoked by one group inparticlar, and that was the loser/dumbshits/bogans that really had no future to look forward to due to the fact that they didnt really have the ability to write there own name.

And yes weed is bad for your health, next you'll tell us that smoking makes you live longer.

That's right. Prime Minister Harper states that weed will remain a crime and if you are caught with even a small amount of it, you'll get a criminal record.

Thank you Harper! Keep your citizens healthy!

I disagree with Harper's policies. He's trying to make Canada's law and order system more like the one in the US. That's a pretty dumb thing to do, considering how much higher the murder rate is in the US. Canada doesn't need that old, ineffective system of fear and punishment, which really doesn't seem to work. What we need is a new, fresh system of rehabilitation and education. It's at least worth piloting.

PS: Most people benefiting from the decriminalisation of marijuana are medical patients with severely painful conditions who, under the dicriminalisation act (or whatever the formal term was), were able to grow small marijuana plants to be used for pain relief.

They seem to more stupid, i.e. more left wing. Lazy, social problems, should be put to death, etc.


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He's pretending to be a canadian hillbilly from alberta, apparently.
yes alas, as canadians we try not to acknowledge their existence, but bad relatives can't be hidden away for ever.

oops, now I's flamin troll too durn golly it all tah heck.

Lot longer than that. It used to be legal and was in everything imaginable. Louis Armstrong and Ray Charles wrong some songs about it.

It's been a celebrated plant in this country since, well, this country began.

It's even mentioned on at least 3 separate occasions in Tanakh, including a Seraphim giving Isaiah a liquid form of cannabis (called kaneh-bosm biblically) to purge his sins. Pot purges sins. Awesome.
Well, when it was last legal today's medical equipment was not available. I doubt they could figure out that pot was bad back then. Up until what the early 60's doctors encourage smoking as a way to improve health. Etcetera

That's right. Prime Minister Harper states that weed will remain a crime and if you are caught with even a small amount of it, you'll get a criminal record.

Thank you Harper! Keep your citizens healthy!
3 thoughts come to mind.

1. Do you actually believe for one moment that this will affect consumption of marijuana in any way?
2. Do you honestly believe that this will effect citizens health in any way? Because if your interested in these sort of restrictions to keep citizens healthy... considering the official statistics... Alcohol is a much larger and vast source of health problems than any other kind of drug... By this line of reasoning you would favor outlawing consumption of alcoholic beverages, cigarrettes, fast foot, etc.
3. Canada did not keep weed ilegal. Harper's temporary and brief government did.

When I was going though high school weed was smoked by one group inparticlar, and that was the loser/dumbshits/bogans that really had no future to look forward to due to the fact that they didnt really have the ability to write there own name.
Could that be because they were dumb shits first, and potheads later?

People shouldn't blame weed for their own inabilities.

And yes weed is bad for your health, next you'll tell us that smoking makes you live longer.
The thing is just that the evidence for that is sparse. And the little evidence there is tells us that it really is more dangerous to walk down a busy street and inhale the cars' exhaust gasses.

Say it:

"I can troll yur form iffa gull durn wurl please"

NOW

I would love to bash your head in right now, but I won't because I don't smoke weed.

2. Do you honestly believe that this will effect citizens health in any way? Because if your interested in these sort of restrictions to keep citizens healthy... considering the official statistics... Alcohol is a much larger and vast source of health problems than any other kind of drug... By this line of reasoning you would favor outlawing consumption of alcoholic beverages, cigarrettes, fast foot, etc.

the alcohol argument is old. you can't ban alcohol, and if you grant that alcohol is bad, then cracking down on marijuana while it is still -mostly- underground, prevents society from accepting another drug.

i agree with whoever posted about the irony of legalising weed while pushing to ban tobacco.

I would love to bash your head in right now, but I won't because I don't smoke weed.
And because you are not six Vancouver Mounties.

I would love to bash your head in right now, but I won't because I don't smoke weed.
For most people, weed would make them less likely to make the effort and bash someone.

Alcohol on the other hand...

I would love to bash your head in right now, but I won't because I don't smoke weed.

i think you won't because you aren't anywhere near to bash his head in. or possibly her head, damn the sexed pronouns.

For most people, weed would make them less likely to make the effort and bash someone.

Alcohol on the other hand...

No, but they would kill to get weed and the money to buy more of it.

the alcohol argument is old. you can't ban alcohol, and if you grant that alcohol is bad, then cracking down on marijuana while it is still -mostly- underground, prevents society from accepting another drug.

Dude, do you not go to parties? Underground my ass.

The reason people keep bringing up th alcohol argument is because it's vaild, and you haven't really countered it, to be honest.

I would love to bash your head in right now

Such hatred and violence. Something never seen in pot smokers.

*tsk tsk*

You need some brownies.

And because you are not six Vancouver Mounties.

Yep, I'm sure you weren't doing anything wrong at them. Besides, a good beating is what some people need every now and then. Beat a few people up and the rest will fall into line, but shooting them would work faster.

Liasia']Dude, do you not go to parties? Underground my ass.

The reason people keep bringing up th alcohol argument is because it's vaild, and you haven't really countered it, to be honest.

well, only underground as compared to smoking in front of a police officer. and while SOMEone on this forum is likely willing to share their story of doing exactly that, i doubt that the majority of smokers would.

No, but they would kill to get weed and the money to buy more of it.

Methinks someone has watched too much Reefer Madness.

Clue: It's not 1950 anymore.

No, but they would kill to get weed and the money to buy more of it.
I've never seen anyone get killed for weed. In fact, it's not that expensive. And it's not addictive enough to make people lose it completely if they hadn't had a dose for a while.

Methamphetamines, Heroine or Crack - yes, definitely. And that's the sort of stuff that shouldn't be traded on the free market (although at the moment it's beiung driven underground which doesn't help).

But stuff like weed is not that sort of drug.

Methinks someone has watched too much Reefer Madness.

Clue: It's not 1950 anymore.

Methinks someone has smoked to much weed and lost touch with the real world.

That's right. Prime Minister Harper states that weed will remain a crime and if you are caught with even a small amount of it, you'll get a criminal record.

Thank you Harper! Keep your citizens healthy!

I hope that wasn't sarcastic(?sorry I'm relatively new, I don't know everyone's political orientation)

I believe Harper is the man for the job.

Marijuana and smoking in general is plain bullsh!t, it's unhealthy, people know that. What's good for Canada is that the number of people who smoke is shrinking, though 3rd world countries should follow the Canadian example and advertise the bad effects of smoking more.

Yep, I'm sure you weren't doing anything wrong at them. Besides, a good beating is what some people need every now and then. Beat a few people up and the rest will fall into line, but shooting them would work faster.What he had coming was a fine or minor jail sentance, not a first class beating.

What he had coming was a fine or minor jail sentance, not a first class beating.

He probably deserved it, little punks often do these days.

well, only underground as compared to smoking in front of a police officer. and while SOMEone on this forum is likely willing to share their story of doing exactly that, i doubt that the majority of smokers would.

By saying it's underground, youre suggesting that most people either don't know what it is, don't acknowledge it etc. Films like 'half baked' and typical cheech+chong sort of stuff show that weed is anything but underground. It may be illegal, but everyone knows what it is.

Out of curiosity, how much does an 1/8 of green cost in the USA or Cananda?

I hope that wasn't sarcastic(?sorry I'm relatively new, I don't know everyone's political orientation)

I believe Harper is the man for the job.

Well welcome to the boards and no, it isn't sarcastic. I also like Harper though I am not a Canadian.

Good for him. I'll continue to smoke weed here, and, if I ever go to Canada, I'll smoke it there, too. And I'll continue to enjoy the very much legal, and very much more hazardous, activities of smoking tobacco, drinking alcohol, eating fast food, and driving a car.

He probably deserved it, little punks often do these days.
He asked a stranger for spare change. How is that deserving of a beating (or even a fine for that manner)?

He probably deserved it, little punks often do these days.

You certainly do.

Liasia']Out of curiosity, how much does an 1/8 of green cost in the USA or Cananda?
Depends on the units being used.

When I was going though high school weed was smoked by one group inparticlar, and that was the loser/dumbshits/bogans that really had no future to look forward to due to the fact that they didnt really have the ability to write there own name.

And yes weed is bad for your health, next you'll tell us that smoking makes you live longer.

Firstly- yes. Weed is of course bad for your health in certain ways. Is that any reason to make it illegal? No! Fatty food, alcohol and cigarettes are legal, so why not drugs.

Secondly- I would doubt that these people smoked weed and became burnouts. More likely they were all friends and got into drugs at the same time because they were in the same social group. If these people were originally stupid/ treated like the "loser/dumbshits/bogans" that you claim they are then it isn't really suprising that they decided to use drugs to cope. Once you've got nothing to lose, you're free to do anything. Weed doesn't make people stupid. It certainly can take your edge off. My brother graduated from oxford university while smoking a lot of weed, but he told me recently (he graduated 5 years ago) that after uni he did weed alot more for a period of 2 years and he certainly feels that it made him feel slower. I smoke a fair bit of weed and when I go through stages of smoking a lot I become very ineloquent and have problems getting my speech patterns right. Though whether this is the short-term effect of a stone-over or a more permanent attack on your brain I don't feel qualified to say.

He asked a stranger for spare change. How is that deserving of a beating (or even a fine for that manner)?

You answered your own question. He asked in a such a way that probably made it seem like if he did not get the money that way he would take it by force. Thus, a beating was in order for the punk.

You certainly do.

Troll

Methinks someone has smoked to much weed and lost touch with the real world.

Hey, I'm not the one who still thinks medical science and knowledge of how psychtropics affect the body didn't go past the 1950s.

Here's real world: I smoke pot. Yes. I do. As often as I possibly can and have since I was around 15.

According to your myths, I:

1] Should be sterile from overuse. I have 5 kids. (myth busted)
2] Should have my growth stunted. I am 6'4. (myth busted)
3] Should be violent. Ask anyone. I am the most passive person you'll ever meet. (myth busted)
4] Should lose all ambition and live at home until 40. I am 33, own my own house, my own land, am a professional musician, and a teacher, a college graduate, and am currently in school for a 2nd degree. (myth busted)
5] Should be incoherent and constantly "in a dream world". This post shows I am not. (myth busted)
6] Should be a criminal. I have one thing on my record and that's for driving without a license around 10 years ago (a class B misdemeanor in TX). Paid a $100 fine. Moving violation. Hardly a criminal. (myth busted)

You got nothin', pal. I, alone, disprove all of the myths you can spew about marijuana and its "harmful" effects.

Name someone who died from smoking weed.

Depends on the units being used.

In the Uk its always ounces :confused: dunno. About £25 over here gets you a decent amount, about 1/8 ounce of standard green. If your'e desperate hash costs about half that.

Liasia']
Out of curiosity, how much does an 1/8 of green cost in the USA or Cananda?

I've heard $35 in the US but I'm also told that it varies on the strain a lot more than in Britain (where I live)

You answered your own question. He asked in a such a way that probably made it seem like if he did not get the money that way he would take it by force. Thus, a beating was in order for the punk.
No, asking someone for change is illegal here. If he used force the beating probably wouldn't of happened. The mounty would know the victim would call the station demanding justice and the mounties boss would find out. If he showed up with no hobo he would have been disiplined.

Liasia']By saying it's underground, youre suggesting that most people either don't know what it is, don't acknowledge it etc. Films like 'half baked' and typical cheech+chong sort of stuff show that weed is anything but underground. It may be illegal, but everyone knows what it is.

Out of curiosity, how much does an 1/8 of green cost in the USA or Cananda?

ok fine not underground. bad word, you're absolutely right. and i still doubt that you would walk up to a police officer with a joint in your hand.

i'm going to go with 30$, but i only mooch, if i smoke at all. i hope that number is good for your test.

Troll
O the irony.

Hey, I'm not the one who still thinks medical science and knowledge of how psychtropics affect the body didn't go past the 1950s.

Here's real world: I smoke pot. Yes. I do. As often as I possibly can and have since I was around 15.

According to your myths, I:

1] Should be sterile from overuse. I have 5 kids. (myth busted)
2] Should have my growth stunted. I am 6'4. (myth busted)
3] Should be violent. Ask anyone. I am the most passive person you'll ever meet. (myth busted)
4] Should lose all ambition and live at home until 40. I am 33, own my own house, my own land, am a professional musician, and a teacher, a college graduate, and am currently in school for a 2nd degree. (myth busted)
5] Should be incoherent and constantly "in a dream world". This post shows I am not. (myth busted)
6] Should be a criminal. I have one thing on my record and that's for driving without a license around 10 years ago (a class B misdemeanor in TX). Paid a $100 fine. Moving violation. Hardly a criminal. (myth busted)

You got nothin', pal. I, alone, disprove all of the myths you can spew about marijuana and its "harmful" effects.

I'm sorry, but you are a criminal because you smoke pot. It would wise for the government to take you're children away for their safety.

I'm sorry, but you are a criminal because you smoke pot. It would wise for the government to take you're children away for their safety.

There's really no other way to say this-

Shut up.

I've heard $35 in the US but I'm also told that it varies on the strain a lot more than in Britain (where I live)

Skunk's worth the extra money though. $35? I need to move to America. England's too expensive for my tastes:p

Troll

If I'm a troll, I'm a damn sight better at it than you are, to have been here over three years and 18,000 posts.

I'm sorry, but you are a criminal because you smoke pot. It would wise for the government to take you're children away for their safety.

Because we should implicitly trust the government and everything they say without question, Mr. Orwell.

I'm sorry, but you are a criminal because you smoke pot. It would wise for the government to take you're children away for their safety.

It's only a crime if you get caught. Conservatives have proven that consistently with oxycotin, money laundering, electioneering, and bribe taking.

I notice that's the only thing you were able to come up with, though. Cute how you even threw in the taking away of my children to try to fan some sort of flame. You're shaping up to be a nice troll/puppet, but I warn you: I am really, really hard to bait.

Liasia']Skunk's worth the extra money though. $35? I need to move to America. England's too expensive for my tastes:p

£10 for enough to get fucked on is an alright price by my book. But getting it lowered would be awesome, so let's legalise now.

It's only a crime if you get caught. Conservatives have proven that consistently with oxycotin, money laundering, electioneering, and bribe taking.

I notice that's the only thing you were able to come up with, though. Cute how you even threw in the taking away of my children to try to fan some sort of flame. You're shaping up to be a nice troll/puppet, but I warn you: I am really, really hard to bait.

Hilarity. You win this thread.

ok fine not underground. bad word, you're absolutely right. and i still doubt that you would walk up to a police officer with a joint in your hand.

i'm going to go with 30$, but i only mooch, if i smoke at all. i hope that number is good for your test.

There are quite a few (sensible) police officers who truly don't give a shit. They will come over if you have a joint and take a toke. That, my friend, is reasonable use of force.

Hilarity. You win this thread.

Heh ... I couldn't resist. ;)

There's really no other way to say this-

Shut up.

I have a right, even more seeing as I am not a criminal like the majority here.

Liasia']There are quite a few (sensible) police officers who truly don't give a shit. They will come over if you have a joint and take a toke. That, my friend, is reasonable use of force.

Eurgh. As if I'd want some dirty coppers lips all over my roach. I think being arrested would be more humane.

Liasia']In the Uk its always ounces :confused: dunno. About £25 over here gets you a decent amount, about 1/8 ounce of standard green. If your'e desperate hash costs about half that.
Here it has been grams. So lets see, an full ounce is $200. That an ounce is 26 grams seedless/28 grams with seeds. That works out to about $7.69/$7.14 a gram. five grams goes for about $30-$35, so it is slightly less, but still comparable.

Liasia']There are quite a few (sensible) police officers who truly don't give a shit. They will come over if you have a joint and take a toke. That, my friend, is reasonable use of force.

Those police officers deserve a beating as much as any young punk teen pot smoker.

Well the liberals wanted it legal but apparently they decided not to go ahead with it.

the liberals wanted it decriminalized so that smoking when you're 16 doesn't prevent you from entering the US when you're 50. i don't think it was ever destined to be legal. that's just vancouver wishful thinking.

I have a right, even more seeing as I am not a criminal like the majority here.

Hate to tear apart your fantasy world but we're the majority pretty much everywhere. Most people have tried drugs at some point in their life.

I have a right, even more seeing as I am not a criminal like the majority here.

You are a criminal ... you've stolen my heart.

Marijuana is not bad! It has tons of medical benefits! I have done a report on it, my parents have researched it. We know the facts and it is not harmless but it is definitely not all that dangerous. Some good sites:
www.NORML.com
www.stopthedrugwar.org
http://www.americanmarijuana.org/
www.jackherer.com/chapter15.html

Those are just the few I could find at the moment.

Eurgh. As if I'd want some dirty coppers lips all over my roach. I think being arrested would be more humane.

:p so true. As long as it doesn't get but-licked, i'm ok with not being arrested.

Because we should implicitly trust the government and everything they say without question, Mr. Orwell.
Hey, Orwell was a total anarco-commie. How could you diss him like that?

I have a right, even more seeing as I am not a criminal like the majority here.

Ah, like the majority. Now you understand why perhaps it shouldn't be illegal, if the majority of people choose to break said law? And no retarded comparisons to murder or rape or anything here.

Hey, Orwell was a total anarco-commie. How could you diss him like that?

I didn't diss him. I invoked his name as a reference for what he is best known for.

Those police officers deserve a beating as much as any young punk teen pot smoker.

Whaaat? I've lost you, i'm afraid. So taking a substance into your body with no major damadge to yourself or others deserves a beating? Sure dude, sure.

I have a right, even more seeing as I am not a criminal like the majority here.
You have that privilage as long as the mods decide you do. And seeing as you are calling some of them criminals....

the liberals wanted it decriminalized so that smoking when you're 16 doesn't prevent you from entering the US when you're 50. i don't think it was ever destined to be legal. that's just vancouver wishful thinking.
Fuck that, it is more profittable when it is illegal.

Liasia']Whaaat? I've lost you, i'm afraid. So taking a substance into your body with no major damadge to yourself or others deserves a beating? Sure dude, sure.

Yes, your difficulty to understand language is a side effect of your reefer madness. It would be wise for you to ask the next Policer Officer you see to beat the shit out of you.

Firstly- yes. Weed is of course bad for your health in certain ways. Is that any reason to make it illegal? No! Fatty food, alcohol and cigarettes are legal, so why not drugs.

Secondly- I would doubt that these people smoked weed and became burnouts. More likely they were all friends and got into drugs at the same time because they were in the same social group. If these people were originally stupid/ treated like the "loser/dumbshits/bogans" that you claim they are then it isn't really suprising that they decided to use drugs to cope. Once you've got nothing to lose, you're free to do anything. Weed doesn't make people stupid. It certainly can take your edge off. My brother graduated from oxford university while smoking a lot of weed, but he told me recently (he graduated 5 years ago) that after uni he did weed alot more for a period of 2 years and he certainly feels that it made him feel slower. I smoke a fair bit of weed and when I go through stages of smoking a lot I become very ineloquent and have problems getting my speech patterns right. Though whether this is the short-term effect of a stone-over or a more permanent attack on your brain I don't feel qualified to say.

Hmm...that never happens to my parents. Then again they grow their own and maybe you get weed from somewhere where the tweak it? Anyway it doesn't matter I guess.

Hmm...that never happens to my parents. Then again they grow their own and maybe you get weed from somewhere where the tweak it? Anyway it doesn't matter I guess.
It can cause some damage. It fills up space in your blood that oxygen could be filling up which can starve your brain.

Hmm...that never happens to my parents. Then again they grow their own and maybe you get weed from somewhere where the tweak it? Anyway it doesn't matter I guess.

I somehow doubt that weed will have the same effects on every single person. Same with smokers. Some people smoke 60 a day and never get cancer. Some people smoke 2 a day and do get it.

I would love to bash your head in right now, but I won't because I don't smoke weed.
I see the exit gate opening. :D

Come back real soon...NOT!!

Firstly- yes. Weed is of course bad for your health in certain ways. Is that any reason to make it illegal? No! Fatty food, alcohol and cigarettes are legal, so why not drugs.

<snip>

Well to be honest, if it was up to me I would ban cigarettes as well
raise the alcohol legal drinking age
and put restrictions on fatty food(or at least try to make them healthier)

Here's a nice fact

Smoking has killed more people in the last 6 years than the entire Holocaust TWICE over

Yes, your difficulty to understand language is a side effect of your reefer madness. It would be wise for you to ask the next Policer Officer you see to beat the shit out of you.

Reefer madness, woooo!:rolleyes: Getting stoned makes you relaxed, maybe a little fuzzy. I can still type when stoned, and i can understand language perfectly. Unfortunately you don't seem to have an argument- hence the:confused:

I see the exit gate opening. :D

Come back real soon...NOT!!

Sorry to see you go.

Well to be honest, if it was up to me I would ban cigarettes as well
raise the alcohol legal drinking age
and put restrictions on fatty food(or at least try to make them healthier)

Here's a nice fact

Smoking has killed more people in the last 6 years than the entire Holocaust TWICE over

In the end it's down to personal choice, though. If somebody wants to destroy their body then its up to them, if you don't want to then you don't have to.

Sorry to see you go.
That was aimed at you. :) Don't worrie we all make mistakes.

Liasia']Reefer madness, woooo!:rolleyes: Getting stoned makes you relaxed, maybe a little fuzzy. I can still type when stoned, and i can understand language perfectly. Unfortunately you don't seem to have an argument- hence the:confused:

I'm sorry but you deserve a harsh beating as soon as possible. You might even have to go beat yourself, yes go beat yourself off.

Now excuse me while I go enjoy a large cuban cigar and several bottles of Cognac.

I'm sorry, but you are a criminal because you smoke pot. It would wise for the government to take you're children away for their safety.

My parents have smoked Marijuana a long time and raised their 5 children just fine no matter the circumstances. My friends parents don't use pot, they get drunk instead and hit their kids now and then and treat them like shit. My mother is a medical marijuana patient if the marijuana does anything to either of my parents it mellows them, numbs pain, and soothes depression. And I bet the guy you were talking to probably is a good father, maybe not perfect no one is after all, but not bad.

Now excuse me while I go enjoy a large cuban cigar and several bottles of Cognac.


*snicker*

I'm sorry but you deserve a harsh beating as soon as possible. You might even have to go beat yourself, yes go beat yourself off.

Now excuse me while I go enjoy a large cuban cigar and several bottles of Cognac.
That Cuban's going to do alot more bad than that beating will (unless it kills him).

Right....tell the four mounties that were murdered that weed doesn't kill.
If it was legal there would be no organized crime surrounding it. The only reason the mafia ever existed was the prohibition of Alcohol and as we know that never worked.

In the end it's down to personal choice, though. If somebody wants to destroy their body then its up to them, if you don't want to then you don't have to.

If somebody wants to rape a child, take photographs of them nude, and distribute it on the internet, then its up to them, if you don't want to then you don't have to

People, sometimes too much personal choice is a bad choice

That Cuban's going to do alot more bad than that beating will (unless it kills him).

Well if he's in the US, the cops must now beat him. Cubans are illegal here.

Beatings all around! Hooray!

Now excuse me while I go enjoy a large cuban cigar and several bottles of Cognac.

"Some people say alcohol is a drug. It's not, it's a drink."

I'm sorry but you deserve a harsh beating as soon as possible. You might even have to go beat yourself, yes go beat yourself off.

Now excuse me while I go enjoy a large cuban cigar and several bottles of Cognac.

Was that supposed to be an insult? I masturbate, and it hasn't really ashamed me to say it since i was oh, 13. Foster's kicks cognac's ass.

If somebody wants to rape a child, take photographs of them nude, and distribute it on the internet, then its up to them, if you don't want to then you don't have to

People, sometimes too much personal choice is a bad choice
They are not doing something to themselves, but to someone else against their will. There is very distinct difference between the two.

If somebody wants to rape a child, take photographs of them nude, and distribute it on the internet, then its up to them, if you don't want to then you don't have to

People, sometimes too much personal choice is a bad choice

Wow that's a terrible argument.

See, if I decided to have a ciggy would I be hurting anyone but myself? No. If I raped a child I would be ruining another human life that is not mine to fuck about with.

Oh, and way to go. You completely trivialised the horror of rape with your argument. I hope you're happy.

Liasia']Was that supposed to be an insult? I masturbate, and it hasn't really ashamed me to say it since i was oh, 13. Foster's kicks cognac's ass.

It was supposed to be clue. A clue for the fact that all my posts have been sarcastic. Gee, maybe you do smoke too much unlike me.

Oh, and way to go. You completely trivialised the horror of rape with your argument. I hope you're happy.
Shit! How'd I miss that.

My governor is a Jewish cowboy.

You're a good man, Keruvalia. Vote Kinky!

It can cause some damage. It fills up space in your blood that oxygen could be filling up which can starve your brain.

If smoke does that then...doesn't ciggarettes?

Anyway an interesting thing I found out. A new study showed that cannabinoids are naturally in your body (What you get from marijuana). Interesting, eh?

It was supposed to be clue. A clue for the fact that all my posts have been sarcastic. Gee, maybe you do smoke too much unlike me.
Most of us have known since page two or three.

Wow that's a terrible argument.

See, if I decided to have a ciggy would I be hurting anyone but myself? No. If I raped a child I would be ruining another human life that is not mine to fuck about with.

Oh, and way to go. You completely trivialised the horror of rape with your argument. I hope you're happy.

Well you see, Second hand smoking has killed over 12,000 Americans and 1000 Canadians just last year

That IS affecting them, is it not?

In Canada, we have Public healthcare. Meaning I am technically paying for the treatment of others through my tax dollars. I don't mind paying for someone's treatment if it was accidental or not in their control. But smoking IS in your control. You started, you got lung cancer, perhaps you deserve to die from it(not actually meaning that)

Tobacco companies deforest hundreds of thousands of Ha a year for tobacco farming. That's affecting the environment, and therefore affecting me

Here's another fact

If all tobacco farms were transformed into food crops, there would be enough food to feed 20 million starving people

You could SAVE 20 million a year instead of killing 5 million a year

But hey, I guess that "high" is more important

If all tobacco farms were transformed into food crops, there would be enough food to feed 20 million starving people
Here is another fact. There is enough food grown each year to feed everybody. It is just more profitable to let it rot than it is to sell it to the starving people of the world.

I don't use weed but it should be ok to use it in your own home. I mean it your body so f the govermentI also want to shhot all but the green party leaders!:sniper:

Here is another fact. There is enough food grown each year to feed everybody. It is just more profitable to let it rot than it is to sell it to the starving people of the world.

I agree with you, that's wrong

But does your point justify smoking?

I've never seen anyone get killed for weed. In fact, it's not that expensive. And it's not addictive enough to make people lose it completely if they hadn't had a dose for a while.

Methamphetamines, Heroine or Crack - yes, definitely. And that's the sort of stuff that shouldn't be traded on the free market (although at the moment it's beiung driven underground which doesn't help).

But stuff like weed is not that sort of drug.

Yeah though I know someone who used meth years ago and didn't get hooked, maybe their just weird though. With the addictiveness true. And hey what are we gonna do make anything addictive illegal? Well let's start with alcohol (pretty addictive...), ciggarettes, computers and computer related things, music, shopping, chocolate (my mother would kill if that happened...I might too. :D), the list goes on. :)

I agree with you, that's wrong

But does your point justify smoking?
It wasn't meant to.

Well you see, Second hand smoking has killed over 12,000 Americans and 1000 Canadians just last year

That IS affecting them, is it not?

There is a difference between smoking around other people and smoking by yourself/with other smokers. I'm not going to deny that second hand smoke can kill people, which is why I have recently come around to the idea of a smoking ban in pubs and restaurants. I don't want to affect other people's health.


In Canada, we have Public healthcare. Meaning I am technically paying for the treatment of others through my tax dollars. I don't mind paying for someone's treatment if it was accidental or not in their control. But smoking IS in your control. You started, you got lung cancer, perhaps you deserve to die from it(not actually meaning that)


Funny thing is, most smokers tend to die before they get too old. The irony of this is that most non-smokers tend to grow old before they die. What do old people need? Medication. Visits to the doctors. Flu shots. Operations. Because smokers have a tendency for dying early we tend to cost Public healthcare less money in the long run.


Tobacco companies deforest hundreds of thousands of Ha a year for tobacco farming. That's affecting the environment, and therefore affecting me


I'm not going to argue that tobacco companies aren't immoral. If it is true that they are causing deforestation then action should be taken against it.


Here's another fact

If all tobacco farms were transformed into food crops, there would be enough food to feed 20 million starving people

You could SAVE 20 million a year instead of killing 5 million a year

But hey, I guess that "high" is more important

Firstly, you don't get high off a cigarette. I thought most people realised that. But then when you're dealing with somebody who compares smoking and child molestation this is what you expect.

Secondly, the world has enough food to feed everyone at the minute. That's the difference between the famines of feudalism and capitalism. Under feudalism we didn't have enough food. Now under capitalism we do have enough food. It's just that so many people are so ridiculously poor they literally can't afford to survive.

Hate to tear apart your fantasy world but we're the majority pretty much everywhere. Most people have tried drugs at some point in their life.

Not to mention that in any good legal system the population has to generally support the laws. If a majority of people could careless about smoking weed then laws banning it really have no weight.

I wont smoke because i want to play pro football and need good lungs but I have a friend who's mom is a chain smoker, his dad a smoker, and his grandpa is a hevy smoker. None of them are deads but they will be soon. I dont think that its bad but if some one wants to die use coke or speed. Duuuu:headbang:

sarcastic posters are stupid. You need a tone of vloice to be sarcastic. duuu:headbang:

Not to mention that in any good legal system the population has to generally support the laws. If a majority of people could careless about smoking weed then laws banning it really have no weight.
A good legal system does what's best for its citizens even if it is unpopular.

I've been thinking about trying weed for the 1st time, but ultimatly I decided not to since just wanting to try it is a crappy reason. Besided I hear most don't get stoned on there first try.

I'm not saying that smoking is good for anyone, but the arguments about 2nd hand smoke are drasticly overstated.

By the way, is there anything that isn't known to the state of California to cause cancer?

Besided I hear most don't get stoned on there first try.

Generally because they're either non-smokers (don't inhale properly) or are really pissed (you'd still feel drunk and not stoned).

It was supposed to be clue. A clue for the fact that all my posts have been sarcastic. Gee, maybe you do smoke too much unlike me.

*sigh* i hate the internet:p

I've been thinking about trying weed for the 1st time, but ultimatly I decided not to since just wanting to try it is a crappy reason. Besided I hear most don't get stoned on there first try.

Just take it properly, and you'll be ok. Don't do anything more than a spliff dude, or it'll rip your head off. Bongs and buckets are not fun if you don't smoke.

I've been thinking about trying weed for the 1st time, but ultimatly I decided not to since just wanting to try it is a crappy reason. Besided I hear most don't get stoned on there first try.
curiosity is not a bad reason to try it. A lot better than those who wanted to do it to escape whatever emo problems they think they have. And I didn't get stoned the first time I tried it, but the second was the funnest time. Oh well, you make your own decisions. At least it's not like crystal meth or something like that.

Liasia']Just take it properly, and you'll be ok. Don't do anything more than a spliff dude, or it'll rip your head off. Bongs and buckets are not fun if you don't smoke.

how about NOT giving advice on how to smoke weed properly

and instead give advice on how to get a job, do well in school, and raise a family properly

how about NOT giving advice on how to smoke weed properly

and instead give advice on how to get a job, do well in school, and raise a family properly

So you think it's better to try it without advice? Fuck that, its just scary if you don't know what you should be feeling. Besides i do have a job and am doing well in school.

So if you use that idea then weed should be legalized becuase it prohibiting its use causes organized crime.
If it was enforce properly, maybe it wouldn't.

Not to mention the fact that it can screw over a young person he is presured into trying. Should a petty think like pot make you a crimminal?
Yes, it should.

how about NOT giving advice on how to smoke weed properly


Because chances are people will do it no matter what they're told. It's better that they do it in a safe environment and have access to all the facts about what they should expect.

Liasia']So you think it's better to try it without advice? Fuck that, its just scary if you don't know what you should be feeling. Besides i do have a job and am doing well in school.

I think people shouldn't try it at all

how about NOT giving advice on how to smoke weed properly

and instead give advice on how to get a job, do well in school, and raise a family properly
Dude, what is your problem? There is nothing wrong with smoking a bit of weed.

I think people shouldn't try it at all

How do you know it's bad if you don't try it? It's good to try new stuff occasionally- variety being the spice of life and all.

Dude, what is your problem? There is nothing wrong with smoking a bit of weed.
If it is legal.

I think people shouldn't try it at all
the people shouldn't smoke cigarrets, drink alcohol, or even drink coffee. They're all more addictive than pot is. You're just subjected to the censorship society has for marijuana, thinking it's so bad.

If it is legal.
Well, good for me then. I can smokeit legally.

the people shouldn't smoke cigarrets, drink alcohol, or even drink coffee. They're all more addictive than pot is. You're just subjected to the censorship society has for marijuana, thinking it's so bad.

I agree that people shouldn't smoke cigarettes; alcohol drinking age should be raised, and coffee should be restrictive.

You also have to remember that coffee doesn't kill 5 million people a year

I agree that people shouldn't smoke cigarettes; alcohol drinking age should be raised, and coffee should be restrictive.

You also have to remember that coffee doesn't kill 5 million people a year

Everything will kill you now a days, depending on who you believe.

I agree that people shouldn't smoke cigarettes; alcohol drinking age should be raised, and coffee should be restrictive.

You also have to remember that coffee doesn't kill 5 million people a year

When are you going to reply to my argument?

Should I assume that you don't want to or that you simply can't?

how about NOT giving advice on how to smoke weed properly

and instead give advice on how to get a job, do well in school, and raise a family properly

Just a point. My grandfather is European Manager of a major company. He smoked pot. One of the kids his raised is head of social services. Have I proven my point, or do you want his school records? I know he got the cane a few times, but I'm fairly certain that was before the marijuanna...

As for whoever wanted to smoke for the first time, just give it real thought. I'm all for it myself, but its silly to pretend there aren't any consequences at all.

:(

It's a sad day for Canadian loving potheads

When are you going to reply to my argument?

Should I assume that you don't want to or that you simply can't?

Which one is yours?

Which one is yours?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10693828&postcount=127

I agree that people shouldn't smoke cigarettes; alcohol drinking age should be raised, and coffee should be restrictive.

You also have to remember that coffee doesn't kill 5 million people a year

neither does marijuana. Have you ever heard of someone OD'ing on it?

:(

It's a sad day for Canadian loving potheads

It's a sadder day for the Canadian potheads. (I'm not one, but lots of my friends are...)

That's right. Prime Minister Harper states that weed will remain a crime and if you are caught with even a small amount of it, you'll get a criminal record.

Thank you Harper! Keep your citizens healthy!

Remind me to stab Steven Harper. :mad:

Remind me to stab Steven Harper. :mad:

get in line. We all want to.

Remind me to stab Steven Harper. :mad:
In about a year or so from now... you won't have to... This guy is our next real Prime Minister. http://people.brandeis.edu/~teuber/ignatieff.jpg

1)There is a difference between smoking around other people and smoking by yourself/with other smokers. I'm not going to deny that second hand smoke can kill people, which is why I have recently come around to the idea of a smoking ban in pubs and restaurants. I don't want to affect other people's health.

2)Funny thing is, most smokers tend to die before they get too old. The irony of this is that most non-smokers tend to grow old before they die. What do old people need? Medication. Visits to the doctors. Flu shots. Operations. Because smokers have a tendency for dying early we tend to cost Public healthcare less money in the long run.

3)I'm not going to argue that tobacco companies aren't immoral. If it is true that they are causing deforestation then action should be taken against it.

4)Firstly, you don't get high off a cigarette. I thought most people realised that. But then when you're dealing with somebody who compares smoking and child molestation this is what you expect.

5)Secondly, the world has enough food to feed everyone at the minute. That's the difference between the famines of feudalism and capitalism. Under feudalism we didn't have enough food. Now under capitalism we do have enough food. It's just that so many people are so ridiculously poor they literally can't afford to survive.

1)A smoking ban in public areas is a start, and to me, that is better than nothing done at all. In Canada, they have ads on Cigarette boxes which tell the user of the effects of Tobacco and tries to discourage them from using it further(these must be put on by law). And because of this(and the relative increase in knowledge of smoking effects in the average Canadian), the number of smokers is shrinking(which is good)

2) Smokers don't just go BANG dead. It's a gradual process, and will probably be many many visits to the doctor. How do you think they find out about their lung cancer? Not everyone's magic. And these visits, and medication, cost us(the taxpayer) money. Money that could be spent on people who deserve medication.

3) 1 in 8 trees cut down are for Tobacco curing and growing. That was just a fact. Since you agree, then there's no argument here.

4) Well no you don't, but you certainly get a sudden sense of "calming and relaxation". Why else would people smoke? Weed does get you high, but that's a diff story

5) If you read my comment above that one(responding to someone else) I agree that it is wrong right now that we have enough food to feed all people and refuse the oppurtunity to do it. But considering most of these Tobacco farms are in Third World countries(where food is low) then perhaps transforming these farms into food crops would help them out(it would be a lot less expensive then Americans or Canadians shipping the food over)

There is a difference between smoking around other people and smoking by yourself/with other smokers. I'm not going to deny that second hand smoke can kill people, which is why I have recently come around to the idea of a smoking ban in pubs and restaurants. I don't want to affect other people's health.
In Ontario, that ban is already in place.

Funny thing is, most smokers tend to die before they get too old. The irony of this is that most non-smokers tend to grow old before they die. What do old people need? Medication. Visits to the doctors. Flu shots. Operations. Because smokers have a tendency for dying early we tend to cost Public healthcare less money in the long run.
Good points, but there are others to consider. Since smokers tend to die earlier, they also don't collect the old age security, and Canada Pension that they could have. This saves the goverment big time!!

I'm not going to argue that tobacco companies aren't immoral. If it is true that they are causing deforestation then action should be taken against it.
Yup.

Secondly, the world has enough food to feed everyone at the minute. That's the difference between the famines of feudalism and capitalism. Under feudalism we didn't have enough food. Now under capitalism we do have enough food. It's just that so many people are so ridiculously poor they literally can't afford to survive.
That is a sad fact!!

1)A smoking ban in public areas is a start, and to me, that is better than nothing done at all. In Canada, they have ads on Cigarette boxes which tell the user of the effects of Tobacco and tries to discourage them from using it further(these must be put on by law). And because of this(and the relative increase in knowledge of smoking effects in the average Canadian), the number of smokers is shrinking(which is good)

2) Smokers don't just go BANG dead. It's a gradual process, and will probably be many many visits to the doctor. How do you think they find out about their lung cancer? Not everyone's magic. And these visits, and medication, cost us(the taxpayer) money. Money that could be spent on people who deserve medication.

3) 1 in 8 trees cut down are for Tobacco curing and growing. That was just a fact. Since you agree, then there's no argument here.

4) Well no you don't, but you certainly get a sudden sense of "calming and relaxation". Why else would people smoke? Weed does get you high, but that's a diff story

5) If you read my comment above that one(responding to someone else) I agree that it is wrong right now that we have enough food to feed all people and refuse the oppurtunity to do it. But considering most of these Tobacco farms are in Third World countries(where food is low) then perhaps transforming these farms into food crops would help them out(it would be a lot less expensive then Americans or Canadians shipping the food over)

1)I really doubt that the number of smokers is dropping due to the fact that there is some info on the side of the box. Funnily enough most people actually know that smoking is bad for them. Being told that repeatedly won't stop them.

2) I do realise that, but generally they don't linger about for 10-20 years before dying while being treated by the NHS. When smokers get it, they're gonna die in a few years, while old people have the enjoyment of a long degenerative process.

3) Cutting down trees isn't a bad thing. Cutting down trees then not replacing them is.

4) Why do people smoke? Because it's addictive. Yeah, it does help with stress. For about 30 seconds afterwards. And generally the stress that they're alleviating is caused by the nicotine levels in your system dropping.

5) Not really, becase people still won't have enough money to buy the food. If we start producing more food we'll end up destroying more food which can't be sold.

In the United States, 500,000 people are in prison for a non-violent crime. People who call for stronger penalties of marijuana users are out of their mind.

Wait... 30,000 in the United States.

Nader Urges Bush to Grant Clemency for Non-Violent Drug Offenders
Describes Drug War as Three Decade, Unjust Failure
Washington, DC: Independent Presidential candidate Ralph Nader today wrote President Bush urging that he grant clemency to 30,000 non-violent drug offenders. Nader’s letter highlighted the three decade long failed, and unjust, drug war. His call for clemency highlighted a similar request made by 400 clergy members to President Bill Clinton in 2000.

Nader’s letter recalled President Bush’s substance abuse problems and noted that if he had been incarcerated for cocaine use he “probably would not have gone on to have the career you have had.” The letter also highlighted the rapid expansion of the prison system in the United States which now houses more than 2.1 million people – one-quarter of the world’s prison population. Clemency for non-violent drug offenders would save more than $1 billion annually.

“It is urgent that the U.S. reverse the incarceration binge. The U.S. Department of Justice estimates that if incarceration rates remain unchanged an estimated 1 of every 20 Americans and greater than 1 in 4 African Americans can be expected to serve time in prison during their lifetime,” said Nader. “It is time to make the failed war on drugs a central issue in the American political dialogue. For too long we have let this injustice continue to grow unhindered. Taking action on clemency at the federal level will set an example for the states and begin the process of reversing this failed policy.”

http://www.votenader.org/media_press/index.php?cid=317

Hey man weeed never didd no harmn to no ones, uh, man. I have to go clear my head now...:confused:

In about a year or so from now... you won't have to... This guy is our next real Prime Minister. http://people.brandeis.edu/~teuber/ignatieff.jpg

Maybe you were referring to this guy...

http://www.usask.ca/communications/ocn/05-feb-18/images/rae_bob-bw.jpg

If he wins the Liberal leadership, Harper's not going anywhere.

Maybe you were referring to this guy...

http://www.usask.ca/communications/ocn/05-feb-18/images/rae_bob-bw.jpg

If he wins the Liberal leadership, Harper's not going anywhere.

All Liberal candidates suck ass right now. Hopefully, one of them will emerge and change public opinions.

Well the liberals wanted it legal but apparently they decided not to go ahead with it.

The Liberals had introduced a government bill to decriminalize small amounts of marijuana but the bill died when the election was called.

Mr Harper can eat me. He talks out of his ass and doesn't speak for Canadians. We want legalized weed; we don't want to be paying dealers the $10 a gram that we could be paying the government. We will continue to smoke weed anyway, so like wtf?
My town is the old home of Marc Emery, and is currently home to three popular stores selling paraphanalia for smoking marihuana (that I can think of off the top of my head). In a society where no one really objects to having a store name "High Times" on mainstreet... Keeping weed illegal is ridiculous.
Our government does not speak for the people, and something needs to be done about it.

In about a year or so from now... you won't have to... This guy is our next real Prime Minister. http://people.brandeis.edu/~teuber/ignatieff.jpg
:eek: My god, he makes Harper look exciting.

Mr Harper can eat me. He talks out of his ass and doesn't speak for Canadians. We want legalized weed; we don't want to be paying dealers the $10 a gram that we could be paying the government. We will continue to smoke weed anyway, so like wtf?
My town is the old home of Marc Emery, and is currently home to three popular stores selling paraphanalia for smoking marihuana (that I can think of off the top of my head). In a society where no one really objects to having a store name "High Times" on mainstreet... Keeping weed illegal is ridiculous.
Our government does not speak for the people, and something needs to be done about it.
ZOMG! So good to see you post

We have a store called "the Hemp Cafe" At 4:20 each day they all get roasted in a back room. Everyone knows it happens but no-one gives a rat's ass.

:eek: My god, he makes Harper look exciting.


ZOMG! So good to see you post

We have a store called "the Hemp Cafe" At 4:30 each day they all get roasted in a back room. Everyone knows it happens but no-one gives a rat's ass.

that's because it's vancouver. Nobody gives a rat's ass about anything in Vancouver.

Because chances are people will do it no matter what they're told. It's better that they do it in a safe environment and have access to all the facts about what they should expect.

I'm with you.

that's because it's vancouver. Nobody gives a rat's ass about anything in Vancouver.
Well, about an hour out of Vancouver, which is about 25 minutes for most Canadian cities. Either way, you're right.

We have a store called "the Hemp Cafe" At 4:30 each day they all get roasted in a back room. Everyone knows it happens but no-one gives a rat's ass.At my highschool, people blaze on school property all the time. It's on the DL, but basically, if you still show up to class and aren't disruptive, admin doesn't care. And if you do get busted, it's like, "Dude, why are you coming to class like this? Go home." If you're really young, they have to call your parents, but its up to them what they do with you...
And at work, a lot of us blaze out back every so often. If you're still getting all your work done, basically, it's no big deal.
The Hippie Cafe got shut down in my town, but that was back during a crackdown a couple years back. When it was decriminalized for a few months (just in time for the fall semester) my friends and I would sit out on the steps of the school and toke. It was awesome. Best time in my life. It was so chill... Felt like we lived in Utopia.
and it's good to be back. thanks

At my highschool, people blaze on school property all the time. It's on the DL, but basically, if you still show up to class and aren't disruptive, admin doesn't care. And if you do get busted, it's like, "Dude, why are you coming to class like this? Go home." If you're really young, they have to call your parents, but its up to them what they do with you...
And at work, a lot of us blaze out back every so often. If you're still getting all your work done, basically, it's no big deal.
The Hippie Cafe got shut down in my town, but that was back during a crackdown a couple years back. When it was decriminalized for a few months (just in time for the fall semester) my friends and I would sit out on the steps of the school and toke. It was awesome. Best time in my life. It was so chill... Felt like we lived in Utopia.
and it's good to be back. thanks


Compared to Jesusland down here, you do.

At my highschool, people blaze on school property all the time. It's on the DL, but basically, if you still show up to class and aren't disruptive, admin doesn't care. And if you do get busted, it's like, "Dude, why are you coming to class like this? Go home." If you're really young, they have to call your parents, but its up to them what they do with you...
And at work, a lot of us blaze out back every so often. If you're still getting all your work done, basically, it's no big deal.
The Hippie Cafe got shut down in my town, but that was back during a crackdown a couple years back. When it was decriminalized for a few months (just in time for the fall semester) my friends and I would sit out on the steps of the school and toke. It was awesome. Best time in my life. It was so chill... Felt like we lived in Utopia.
That's basically what is going to continue happening. Three cheers for Western Alienation! Some people were a little worried about you after how you left your thread

That's basically what is going to continue happening. Three cheers for Western Alienation! Some people were a little worried about you after how you left your thread

3 cheers for Hippieville alienation! If Quebec doesn't need the rest of Canada, neither does BC.

3 cheers for Hippieville alienation! If Quebec doesn't need the rest of Canada, neither does BC.
That's much better than any name that I could think of for if we seperate.

That's much better than any name that I could think of for if we seperate.

and it describes BC so perfectly too. We'd get so much money from tourism with that name! :eek:

and it describes BC so perfectly too. We'd get so much money from tourism with that name! :eek:
We should inform all four of our seperatist parties of this.

We should inform all four of our seperatist parties of this.

we have four? I know we've got the Millionaire's party who wants to sell BC to the americans, and a commie party, and a sex party, and a pretty strong marijuana party...but separatist parties? and four? :eek:

we have four? I know we've got the Millionaire's party who wants to sell BC to the americans, and a commie party, and a sex party, and a pretty strong marijuana party...but separatist parties? and four? :eek:
We got one that wants us to join the US (annexation), create our own country with Alberta, Saskatchewan, and possibly the Yukon (Western Concept), a copy of the Bloc Quebequois (Bloc British Columbia), and I counted the Millionaire's party. The Confederation Party sounds like it could be a sepratist party, but I haven't gotten to their site yet(no linky).

We got one that wants us to join the US (annexation), create our own country with Alberta, Saskatchewan, and possibly the Yukon (Western Concept), a copy of the Bloc Quebequois (Bloc British Columbia), and I counted the Millionaire's party. The Confederation Party sounds like it could be a sepratist party, but I haven't gotten to their site yet(no linky).

All I can say is that we've got some pretty radical people in BC.

All I can say is that we've got some pretty radical people in BC.
No kidding. We got a Sex Party, two parties want to bring Suise style direct democracy, a few Libertarian Parties.

No kidding. We got a Sex Party, two parties want to bring Suise style direct democracy, a few Libertarian Parties.

don't forget the commies. we're probably the only province who still have a sizable commie party left.

don't forget the commies. we're probably the only province who still have a sizable commie party left.
Ontario might too. The national commie party gets a great deal of votes in Toronto.

Ontario might too. The national commie party gets a great deal of votes in Toronto.

every party gets lots of votes in Ontario.

Cincinnati has their priorities straight by toughening penalties for majiuana possession. City Council has nothing more important to do? :rolleyes:

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060330/NEWS01/603300353/-1/all

every party gets lots of votes in Ontario.
True enough.

That's right. Prime Minister Harper states that weed will remain a crime and if you are caught with even a small amount of it, you'll get a criminal record.

Thank you Harper! Keep your citizens healthy!

Hooray status quo. [sarcasm]

Hooray status quo. [sarcasm]
More like status quotient!

Stupid boring forum.

Keeping it illegal is a good idea. I really dont see any decent reason why it should be legalized. There are some people out there that feel strongly about having it legalized, but i would be interested in hearing those reasons.
Freedom isnt a good enough reason? People willingly give their lives for freedom, seems like a pretty strong reason to me.
In actuality any society that calls itself free should never have a discussion about why something should be legalised. Such a discussion should only take place in unfree societies. In free societies discussions of such issues should begin at the premise that the society is laying claim to, aka freedom. That being the case the discussion ought to be framed as 'should X be made illegal' or 'should X remain illegal'. In any society that calls itself free the onus of justification should always be on those who would restrict the freedom of others, not those who wish to exercise freedom.
Further any such justification (of the illegality of an act or ommision) should be consistent with other laws and principals widely accepted by the society. That certainly is not the case with this issue. The only justifications that I have ever heard offered are utterly inconsistent with the concept of a 'free society' and if the principals offered as justification for the illegality of 'weed' were to be applied consistently throughout a society, the result would be intrusive and unacceptably totilitarian.
The fact is laws against drug consumption is just the modern version of a witch hunt. We had a lovely young lady, law abiding, tax paying and studying to further herself, extremely attractive and a part-time model ring the police stating she desperately needed their help. They were so short of resources they sent a friggin taxi - which evidently went to the wrong place. That girl has never been seen or heard from again. The night this story broke on the national news it shared headlines with a drug bust. Great a wonderful young girl full of potential, a law abiding tax payer who asked for police assistance and we didnt have the resources to help because we are too busy 'saving' drug takers, (by locking them up in prison at our expense) who dont want to be saved from themselves. You give me one single reason why this is a good thing. It's my tax money that is funding this modern day witch hunt and frankly I'm sick of paying for the whole pointless, expensive exercise.

Well you see, Second hand smoking has killed over 12,000 Americans and 1000 Canadians just last year

That IS affecting them, is it not?
Yes it is, which is why it makes sense to ensure that people have a right to not be smoked around in public places. Frankly if someone wants to smoke in the privacy of their own home, then let them. I personally dont drive a motor car but I dont expect everyone else to abstain just so I can have better air quality.

In Canada, we have Public healthcare. Meaning I am technically paying for the treatment of others through my tax dollars. I don't mind paying for someone's treatment if it was accidental or not in their control. But smoking IS in your control. You started, you got lung cancer, perhaps you deserve to die from it(not actually meaning that)
I wont believe it unless you prove it. I know that my government makes a profit out of tobacco sale taxes and if yours doesnt then it would make sense to insist that they at least break even. If people want to destroy their own health at their own cost, that's fine - but it ought to be at their cost and this justifies the government taxing the sale of harmful goods at a rate that covers any such costs.

Tobacco companies deforest hundreds of thousands of Ha a year for tobacco farming. That's affecting the environment, and therefore affecting me
So do McDonalds. This is an utterly disengenious argument given that legalising 'weed' would 'mainstream' hemp a totally renewable resource that can be used for everything from fuel, to paper to clothes. It's also a very silly argument given the damage done by economic activities throughout the world. What about the harm of livestock, agriculture, manufacturing....or going to the toilet...

Here's another fact

If all tobacco farms were transformed into food crops, there would be enough food to feed 20 million starving people
People are not starving as a result of insufficient capacity to feed them.

You could SAVE 20 million a year instead of killing 5 million a year

But hey, I guess that "high" is more important
Tobacco doesnt get people high...your argument makes as much sense as pointing out how much food could be grown on the land taken up by movie theatres world wide and using this as an excuse to ban DVDs....

In Canada, we have Public healthcare. Meaning I am technically paying for the treatment of others through my tax dollars. I don't mind paying for someone's treatment if it was accidental or not in their control. But smoking IS in your control. You started, you got lung cancer, perhaps you deserve to die from it(not actually meaning that)

You assume that the taxes on tobacco don't go to pay for healthcare... :rolleyes:

A good legal system does what's best for its citizens even if it is unpopular.
Whats best as decided by who? Tell me who is this magical fount of wisdom that knows what is best for every person in any single society.

What exactly do people have against freedom and why on earth does it get so much lip service given the clear level of antipathy towards it...?:confused:

There is no one "What's best" for everyone. The only way you can get something close is to repeal whatever unpopular law it is, assuming it's a democracy. If it isn't then the crazed dictator does what he(she?) wants to do. But we're talking about Canada here, so go with the first option.

Maybe you were referring to this guy...

http://www.usask.ca/communications/ocn/05-feb-18/images/rae_bob-bw.jpg

If he wins the Liberal leadership, Harper's not going anywhere.
Rae will never win the liberal leadership. He has no solid ground to build on within the party. Ignatieff will win it and Bob Rae will probably end up as a minister of a future liberal government.

Rae will never win the liberal leadership. He has no solid ground to build on within the party. Ignatieff will win it and Bob Rae will probably end up as a minister of a future liberal government.
I cannot fathom Bob Rae as leader of the federal Liberals at all. I would like to think that Belinda Stronach would have a good chance. It certainly would be interesting watching Harpo and Stronach going at each other hammer and tong!!

I'd prefer Scott Brison over Stronach every day of the week.

that means i cant go to canada

Keeping it illegal is a good idea. I really dont see any decent reason why it should be legalized. There are some people out there that feel strongly about having it legalized, but i would be interested in hearing those reasons.

I'll tell you why.

We have cigarettes and beer. One gives you cancer, one causes accidents on the highway. Yet they are still legal.

Having police going around harassing people over something like weed, which isn't even as harmful as the two above, is a waste of money.

I don't smoke weed, and I don't like the stuff. But I rather see our boys in blue and red to going after real crime instead of harassing kids or young adults who have a craving for chips.

So can someone explain to me why cigarettes and beer is legal, while you suggest that weed should be illegal? My Canadian logic doesn't really compute here.

Canada City']I'll tell you why.

We have cigarettes and beer. One gives you cancer, one causes accidents on the highway. Yet they are still legal.

Having police going around harassing people over something like weed, which isn't even as harmful as the two above, is a waste of money.

I don't smoke weed, and I don't like the stuff. But I rather see our boys in blue and red to going after real crime instead of harassing kids or young adults who have a craving for chips.

So can someone explain to me why cigarettes and beer is legal, while you suggest that weed should be illegal? My Canadian logic doesn't really compute here.

To be honest, I'd rather have marijuana legal than cigarettes.

cigarettes kill more people than drunk driving, murders, suffocation, drownings, fire, breast cancer, car accidents, falls, and poisoning(and along with a whole bunch of stuff) put together

but still, like drinking, people have to be responsible with marijuana, coming high to class everyday is NOT a good start for pursuading me or anyone else here to legalise(or discriminalize) it