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Five years later, Hollywood is betting that America is ready for films about what happened on 9/11. Are we?

I just watched the trailor for this film. You can see it here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12112802/site/newsweek/

Personally i have mixed feelings about this. I know people make war movies or movies about natural disasters shortly after they happened but dont you think this is a little different? I think i would go see the movie but im thinking about all the families that lost their loved ones. Is five years enough time for them to go see this movie or even have any desire to relive this event?

It looks like a really stupid movie.

It looks like a really stupid movie.

well i dont think it should have been made...

I doubt it will remotely resemble reality.

I'd like to point out that Hollywood is trying to make a quick buck by making movies about things that a lot of people are familiar with, thus 9/11.

well i dont think it should have been made...


If they'd managed to hack a good movie out of it, by all means, they should have made it.

I'd like to point out that Hollywood is trying to make a quick buck by making movies about things that a lot of people are familiar with, thus 9/11.

i agree...

If they'd managed to hack a good movie out of it, by all means, they should have made it.

how good can it really be? of course it could be moving or touching, but i dont think it will be the movie the causes this. it will be the memories of that day that everyone has. the memories of those people that died and the pain they went through. the movie is just going to remind them of those memories and hollywood will look like they did a great job when all they are doing is feeding off peoples pain...

Even though I know 9/11 was a tragic event, I don't think we need to keep harping on it. All the hype about 9/11 makes me sick to my stomach. If any more enfisis is put on 9/11 it would be sad. With all the attention put toward it, you lose the real meaning of the whole thing. I wish people would stop talking about it so much and let the past be the past so we can focus on the present and look toward our future.

how good can it really be? of course it could be moving or touching, but i dont think it will be the movie the causes this. it will be the memories of that day that everyone has. the memories of those people that died and the pain they went through. the movie is just going to remind them of those memories and hollywood will look like they did a great job when all they are doing is feeding off peoples pain...




If your father or son were stabbed tomorrow by a mugger, you wouldnt get millions of dollars from the government.

9/11 victims have been coddled quite enough already, its extremely callous to hem and haw about offending them when movies are made every year in which people are shot or blown up.

If your father or son were stabbed tomorrow by a mugger, you wouldnt get millions of dollars from the government.

9/11 victims have been coddled quite enough already, its extremely callous to hem and haw about offending them when movies are made every year in which people are shot or blown up.

Most of those are either fictitious or dealing with other countries, and when it concerns ours it's so obviously fake no one cares.

Most of those are either fictitious or dealing with other countries, and when it concerns ours it's so obviously fake no one cares.


And...

What are you trying to get at?

If your father or son were stabbed tomorrow by a mugger, you wouldnt get millions of dollars from the government.

9/11 victims have been coddled quite enough already, its extremely callous to hem and haw about offending them when movies are made every year in which people are shot or blown up.

ok, but, we all know what happened on 9/11. we dont need a movie about it. maybe sometime down the road it should be made, perhaps for the younger generation to see and understand. but 5 years after? i think its too soon...

And...

What are you trying to get at?

That if anyone were to get pissed they'd have to have the mental acquity of a flatworm, and most movies are the LOTR, Star Wars, King Kong movies. People get shot but they are blatantly not real. 9/11's different though because it hits closer to home. People can relate to it. It's not just people getting blown up, it's your brother's body not being found.

And...

What are you trying to get at?

Some people don't want to face the truth?

I'd say some people will be offended, some not, it depends on how conservative they are. But I'd say most people would not be offended, maybe think it's a little too soon but not offended.

I'm not american tough, I might be totally wrong.

That if anyone were to get pissed they'd have to have the mental acquity of a flatworm, and most movies are the LOTR, Star Wars, King Kong movies. People get shot but they are blatantly not real. 9/11's different though because it hits closer to home. People can relate to it. It's not just people getting blown up, it's your brother's body not being found.


Maybe if one of your kids or parents gets shot, or blown up, or dies in a fire, you'll understand what I'm talking about.

I have no idea how good or bad it will be. Apparently the guy is doing a lot of research on what they were wearing and things like that, but much of the story is going to have to be fictionalized, since there are so many gaps about what actually happened.

SPOILER: They all die.

That if anyone were to get pissed they'd have to have the mental acquity of a flatworm, and most movies are the LOTR, Star Wars, King Kong movies. People get shot but they are blatantly not real. 9/11's different though because it hits closer to home. People can relate to it. It's not just people getting blown up, it's your brother's body not being found.

So much violence these days is related to things that don't matter, and is very inhuman. This is violence that has a vital himan component to it, and I can appreciate that much more.

I doubt it will remotely resemble reality.

Got that right. The Director will probably be so careful not to offend everybody that he'll end up depicting the entire flight as heroes. Apart from the terrorists of course.

I heard this from one of the victim family members. I'm going to have to wait. Maybe I'll actually see it since it crashed 90 minutes from my front door.

I just watched the trailor for this film. You can see it here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12112802/site/newsweek/

Personally i have mixed feelings about this. I know people make war movies or movies about natural disasters shortly after they happened but dont you think this is a little different? I think i would go see the movie but im thinking about all the families that lost their loved ones. Is five years enough time for them to go see this movie or even have any desire to relive this event?
Personally speaking, I think Flight 93 was shot down.

I just watched the trailor for this film. You can see it here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12112802/site/newsweek/

Personally i have mixed feelings about this. I know people make war movies or movies about natural disasters shortly after they happened but dont you think this is a little different? I think i would go see the movie but im thinking about all the families that lost their loved ones. Is five years enough time for them to go see this movie or even have any desire to relive this event?
For me it is. If the trailer is any indication, the movie should be really good. I intend to see it.

After just watching the trailer and tearing up (not a word people), I'll probably see it now.

Personally speaking, I think Flight 93 was shot down.

Not even the military is saying that so I'm going to call your bluff.

Boring plot.

I doubt it will remotely resemble reality.
yeah, noone knows, or it hasnt been made public, what exactly happened in the plane

Personally speaking, I think Flight 93 was shot down.
thats what I think

I heard on Fox News that family members signed off on it. Meaning they signed a agreement that it was fine to make this movie.....

cnn just said the guy that made the movie got approval from every one of the victims families. so that makes me feel a little better about it...

For me it is. If the trailer is any indication, the movie should be really good. I intend to see it.

But ... but ... it's Hollyweird!

I heard on Fox News that family members signed off on it. Meaning they signed a agreement that it was fine to make this movie.....
yup

I heard on Fox News that family members signed off on it. Meaning they signed a agreement that it was fine to make this movie.....

yeah i just heard that lik 20 seconds ago...

Well, as long as the family members say it's fine, then let it by released....

But ... but ... it's Hollyweird!
( shrug ) So sue me. :)

You're apparently presupposing some illusory "consistency," which is the hobgoblin of small minds. :D

Well, as long as the family members say it's fine, then let it by released....

I agree 100%. Now I know I'm going to go see it.

I just watched the trailor for this film. You can see it here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12112802/site/newsweek/

Personally i have mixed feelings about this. I know people make war movies or movies about natural disasters shortly after they happened but dont you think this is a little different? I think i would go see the movie but im thinking about all the families that lost their loved ones. Is five years enough time for them to go see this movie or even have any desire to relive this event?

well, i don't think its any different from making a war movie 5 years after the event but they could have made a better go at it. it looks shite.

Not even the military is saying that so I'm going to call your bluff.
You can't call my bluff, because it isn't a bluff. It is my personal opinion. If it wasn't intercepted by fighter jets, then why not? Especially considering everything else that had happened prior to this.

http://www.post-gazette.com/images2/20011028Flight93map.jpg

( shrug ) So sue me. :)

A Jew sue? Nevar!

You're apparently presupposing some illusory "consistency," which is the hobgoblin of small minds. :D

If I expected consistency, I'd never show up here. ;)

You can't call my bluff, because it isn't a bluff. It is my personal opinion. If it wasn't intercepted by fighter jets, then why not? Especially considering everything else that had happened prior to this.

/IMG

Aww damnit ... you ruined the end of the film for me. *shakes fist*

You can't call my bluff, because it isn't a bluff. It is my personal opinion. If it wasn't intercepted by fighter jets, then why not? Especially considering everything else that had happened prior to this.

Because if a missile hit, it would've been heard. Not to mention it had to be authorized to actually shoot it down. If it was shot down, we would've heard about it long before now.

Not to mention, there was nothing on the flight recorder that suggested a missile impact. If there was a missile hit, debris would've been scattered over a larger area than it did and the crater that is there, wouldn't be there as the plane would've exploded in mid-air.

I'd go see it if they managed to prevent 9/11.

I'd go see it twice if Frenchmen did it.

Because if a missile hit, it would've been heard. Not to mention it had to be authorized to actually shoot it down. If it was shot down, we would've heard about it long before now.
There was authorization to shoot the plane down.

Not to mention, there was nothing on the flight recorder that suggested a missile impact. If there was a missile hit, debris would've been scattered over a larger area than it did and the crater that is there, wouldn't be there as the plane would've exploded in mid-air.
How would you know what the flight recorder actually recorded?

Before 10:06 AM, Rodney Peterson and Brandon Leventry in Boswell, 10 miles to the north-northwest, notice a passenger jet lumbering through the sky at about 2,000 feet. They notice the plane dip its wings sharply to the left then to the right. The wings level off and the plane keeps flying, slowly descending.

The plane starts to break up before it crashes, with debris being found far from the site of the crash. One half-ton piece of engine is found over a mile away. Finally at 10:06 AM, Flight 93 crashes into the Pennsylvania countryside, about 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh, or 124 miles from Washington, DC.

There was authorization to shoot the plane down.


How would you know what the flight recorder actually recorded?

Before 10:06 AM, Rodney Peterson and Brandon Leventry in Boswell, 10 miles to the north-northwest, notice a passenger jet lumbering through the sky at about 2,000 feet. They notice the plane dip its wings sharply to the left then to the right. The wings level off and the plane keeps flying, slowly descending.

The plane starts to break up before it crashes, with debris being found far from the site of the crash. One half-ton piece of engine is found over a mile away. Finally at 10:06 AM, Flight 93 crashes into the Pennsylvania countryside, about 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh, or 124 miles from Washington, DC.

How fast was the plane diving? Stresses would rip an airplane apart. Still doesn't explain the crater that was left behind. A missile detonating on a plane wouldn't leave much for a crater. And again, it would go against flight recorder as well as cell phone conversations going on.