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There are alot of them out there. I know of three off the top of my head (Nirvana, The Beatles, U2) I mean, even if they are over-rated they are still decent. although The Beatles is pretty high up on my list behind, if anyone, Bob Dylan. So, poll coming. Who thinks theses bands are good but over-rated (ie. called the best band in the universe)

But Nirvana is the best band in the universe.
If you want overrated but okay, list Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd.

Ahh, music. Something one can talk about in real life and not be murdered for.
*refuses to comment directly*

I agree with Bob Dylan.

Ahh, music. Something one can talk about in real life and not be murdered for.
*refuses to comment directly*<Points to Mariehamn's name in the poll.>

But Nirvana is the best band in the universe.
If you want overrated but okay, list Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd.
That was funny, Pink Floyd just started playing on my computer just as I read that.. or a GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY?!:eek:

but really. They don't get cult status like Nirvana.

but really. They don't get cult status like Nirvana.No, they're too widespread to just be a cult band.

No, they're too widespread to just be a cult band.

Nirvana is a cult band? :eek:

The Beatles are massively over-rated. Decent, but not as good as everyone seems to think, IMO.

What?! Pink Floyd has cult status?!

No, they're too widespread to just be a cult band.
DAMN YOU AND YOUR SUPEIOR INTEELTEGIENTS. Fuck. I actually spelt that wrong. :headbang:

DAMN YOU AND YOUR SUPEIOR INTEELTEGIENTS. Fuck. I actually spelt that wrong. :headbang:Lol. Quoted and soon to be sigged.

Lol. Quoted and soon to be sigged.
Well, at least I can say I was sigged... :cool:

i kinda think u can only say sumthings overrated when you are specifically talking about a place in which the band is overrated, ie theres no such thing as a band being universally overrated as some ppl will like em and some wont, so if you wanna say someones overrated you should really post some evidence of this.

For example, i think the 3 main bands mentioned thus far (pink floyyd, the beattles and nirvana) are all actually not as good as the impression of them tht the media usually gives off, although they are still great bands, except for nirvana who are a good band but nothing special.

Here for example is a downright fallacy about the nevermind album from this reasonable but slightly overzealous review (http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/music-records/nevermind-nirvana/1002028/):

"Undoubtedly one of the finest and most influential albums in rock history, the one thing that could never be claimed about the album is that it was dull."

Firstly its kinda hard to consider the positive effect nevermind has had on music history as most of the bands that have been influenced by it were either money-hungry seattlites back in the days of grunge, commercial rockers like linkin park and the main place, i feel that their influence is felt is in the entirely manufactured pop music of ppl like avril lavigne. In short i feel that nirvanas greatest contribution has been to the careers of hack pop-producers, not good bands, fighting the good fight as some might have you believe.

Oddly enough, the last time i listened to nevermind, once my faveourite album, this was my overriding impression, that it was dull. I couldn't actually listen to any of the tracks all the way through, but had to skip to the next one after a minute or so. It has the same effect on me that all catchy, substanceless pop has, that its the coolest song in the world for about 30 seconds, and then the lack of anything worth listening to in the song, other than the mere repetition of the catchy bit makes it rather dull, rather quickly.

It's like, to be interested in a song, you're gonna be listening to one of two things, 1, the music, 2 the lyrics. The probelm with nevermind is that it doesnt really have either of these. The music is often a fairly unremarkable series of powerchords that never changes or develops throughout the song, so you can only find that worthy of your attention for a few seconds, and secondly the lyrics are so completely nonsensical, so completely lacking of any overall idea within each song, that you cant really listen to the words either, because you cant follow them.

Thus, i find the album dull.

Most ppl of course would say, that nirvana werent about intellectual music or coherent lyrics, but about the whole primal energy thing in their music. I, however, just cant hear this. I find pretty much all the nirvana studio recordings, rather stale and lifeless, especially the in utero recordings, its like they had all the life sapped out of them everytime they walked into a studio. the performances are just so perfect, flat and predictable.

And you can't rely on the live recordings to hear a good nirvana performance because although nirvana were powerful, unstoppable performers, they were also damn sloppy ones, so their posthumous live album is a rather messy, dissapointing listen.

In fact, i personally think the only recorded nirvana tracks that even approach the primal energy thing i hear being said about them are "endless nameless" and "gallons of rubbing alchohol flow through the strip", the only nirvana tracks i like, and as far as i know, the only nirvana tracks that feature any improvisation. Personally i think nirvana would have been a far greater band if cobain had never started songwriting and just followed the path of instrumental, rock improvisation.

Don't get me wrong, if you 'get' nirvana then theyre great, theyre the greatest band in the world. But if that connection with the music just isnt there, from a critical point of view, theres really very little to commend them on.

So anyway, thats my opinion on nirvana. That was me attacking some of the spurious praises commonly laid on nirvana's music. Not to single out nirvana or anything, as i said, i think the other bands are overrated aswell, it's just that iv'e realised i cant be bothered to write any m

I'd agree with Nirvana. Good band but apart from Smells like teen spirit, and a couple of other songs, they werent that great. Its hard to judge the Beatles cos they are from a different time. The past that is. THeir music may sound dated now but they were ahead of their time. I wont hear a word against Bob Dylan though. He rocks! They should combine his DNA with that of Johnny cash and make the ultimate country/folk singer. Bohnny Dylash.

I definitely agree about U2. They've written some pretty good music, but they've also churned out a fair bit of mediocre dross.

the stone roses,some good tunes but far too overrated
nirvana, less good tunes but had some nonetheless, overrated
the pixies, one or two good tunes but extremely overrated

U2, Radiohead, The Beatles, Muse, The Offspring (Smash is one of the best albums of the 90's, but then they went terrible) , The Clash (OK, their first album is great, but I reckon London Calling and beyond is generally overrated with a couple of exceptions), Pink Floyd, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Neil Young, Elvis Presley, Deep Purple, Metallica, Megadeth.

All did decent work, but are IMO overrated for varying reasons.

I'd throw the White Stripes in there, but they're a love/hate band, so not really overrated.

any band that gets airplay on clear channel is over rated. since i don't regularly watch or listen to corporate media (i don't even have cable. just internet, and only dial-up here) i have no idea which bands are or how good any of them may or may not be.

i do know of a few bands that do stuff i like. i listen to a little noncomercial station that's more or less local to me. i have no idea how much or how little wider airplay or recording sales or anything else they get.

other then wishing all their members happiness and to be able to eat regular and pay their rent. i really don't give a rat how much anyone else does either.

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i think practically everyone here is mising the point of what made these bands brilliant (with the possible exception of exochina, whose post i didn't bother to read). these 'overrated' bands invented and/or popularised entire genres of music. i don't think you can get more rated than that.

it seems like people just like to put down brilliant bands so they look like they are sophisticated and tasteful. and i say that in the nicest possible way to avoid being a flamer.

U2, The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Neil Young, Elvis Presley, Deep Purple, Metallica, Megadeth.

Elvis...Definitely!!!
U2...Absolutely!!!
The Beatles...Agreed!!!
Neil Young...Pretty Much, yeah!!!
Megadeth...50/50!!!

I never really found Deep Purple or CCR to over-rated!

Metallica destroyed themselves when their ego trip kicked in and money became more important then the music & the fans but in their hayday they deseved every shred of recognition they got! After ...And Justice; there was no justice!!!

As for Pink Floyd, I just can't agree with anyone on that! I think Floyd deserves all the praise they get!

My picks:
The Rolling Stones (Good - 40%/Sucks - 60%!!! Don't Get the Hype!)
Bob Dylan (Hell, he's not even OK! He just sucks...99%!!!)
Led Zeppelin (Pretty good but highly over-rated!)
Creed - (Average & way too over-rated!)
Kiss (OK, but that's about it!)

I knew I was forgetting someone...Bruce Springsteen!!!

Do you know there is a Kurt Cobain action figure coming out?

Nirvana are overrated.

But they're still awesome, and In Utero is still a work of genius.

Do you know there is a Kurt Cobain action figure coming out?Ewww :eek: :gundge: Whose bright idea was that?

It ain't Bloated too bad...

The Rolling Stones and Led Zepplin are over-rated in my opinion but are actually okay.

Radiohead

did decent work, but are IMO overrated

Seriously?! Radiohead completely kick ass. One of the very few bands I'd go see instead of 65daysofstatic in fact.

Overrated in my opinion are:
The Beatles, U2, Nirvana, Oasis, Coldplay, pretty much anything that gets any airplay on commercial radio nowadays, Pink Floyd (as much as I love them), The Cure (again, even though I like them), Guns N' Roses, Metallica, The Jam, REM (a little).

Out of them, I could listen to an album's worth of Nirvana, Oasis (so long as it's Morning Glory), Pink Floyd, The Cure, and REM (Automatic For The People).
The rest get far too much praise.

Seriously?! Radiohead completely kick ass. One of the very few bands I'd go see instead of 65daysofstatic in fact.

Overrated in my opinion are:
The Beatles, U2, Nirvana, Oasis, Coldplay, pretty much anything that gets any airplay on commercial radio nowadays, Pink Floyd (as much as I love them), The Cure (again, even though I like them), Guns N' Roses, Metallica, The Jam, REM (a little).

Out of them, I could listen to an album's worth of Nirvana, Oasis (so long as it's Morning Glory), Pink Floyd, The Cure, and REM (Automatic For The People).
The rest get far too much praise.Why do you like Radiohead so much but not Coldplay?

Metallica destroyed themselves when their ego trip kicked in and money became more important then the music & the fans but in their hayday they deseved every shred of recognition they got! After ...And Justice; there was no justice!!!

They're okay. I can recognise the musical talent that they had, but they just don't do it for me.

As for Pink Floyd, I just can't agree with anyone on that! I think Floyd deserves all the praise they get!

I like them, but eh, they never really jumped out at me.

My picks:
The Rolling Stones (Good - 40%/Sucks - 60%!!! Don't Get the Hype!)

I'd say Good - 20%, Sucks - 80%. Aside from "Paint it Black", I can't think of any songs of theirs I like, but there's probably a couple more.

Bob Dylan (Hell, he's not even OK! He just sucks...99%!!!)

I've never gotten into his music enough to judge.

Led Zeppelin (Pretty good but highly over-rated!)

Nah. Zep are awesome. :p

Creed - (Average & way too over-rated!)

Creed are a festering lump of dogshit upon the face of music. They don't deserve mention in a thread about bands that are "actually okay".

Kiss (OK, but that's about it!)

Don't like them.

I knew I was forgetting someone...Bruce Springsteen!!!

Yeah, he's okay.

I'd say Good - 20%, Sucks - 80%. Aside from "Paint it Black", I can't think of any songs of theirs I like, but there's probably a couple more.That song is why they're better than the Beatles.

Seriously?! Radiohead completely kick ass. One of the very few bands I'd go see instead of 65daysofstatic in fact.

Overrated in my opinion are:
The Beatles, U2, Nirvana, Oasis, Coldplay, pretty much anything that gets any airplay on commercial radio nowadays, Pink Floyd (as much as I love them), The Cure (again, even though I like them), Guns N' Roses, Metallica, The Jam, REM (a little).

Out of them, I could listen to an album's worth of Nirvana, Oasis (so long as it's Morning Glory), Pink Floyd, The Cure, and REM (Automatic For The People).
The rest get far too much praise.
Nah ah Pink Floyd are under-rated.

Radiohead got a lot of stick for going all funny and then pretty much dieing.
Bloody Artists.

Seriously?! Radiohead completely kick ass. One of the very few bands I'd go see instead of 65daysofstatic in fact.

They're a good band, but I wouldn't go out of my way to see them (and I didn't when they came down, though IIRC they cancelled the tour anyway). I love their 'softer' stuff - Exit Music For a Film, No Surprises, Street Spirit, etc...and Amnesiac is a great album, but when they try and 'rock'...meh. Doesn't work for me. I just don't get how OK Computer consistently makes lists of the top 10 albums of the 90's. It's a good album, but I don't find it earthshattering.

Why do you like Radiohead so much but not Coldplay?
Coldplay have released three albums, of which one is fairly good, one is passable, and one is crap.

Radiohead have released 6(?) albums, the first of which is poor, the next two are among the best albums ever made, the following two are challenging (in a good way), and the last one...wasn't fantastic, but is still better than Parachutes.

Radiohead have consistently proven that they can successfully change their style of music, while all Coldplay have done is plod along with their safe MOR. They've become a singles band, while Radiohead still focus on the album.

Coldplay = teh ghey

Radiohead = I stand them in good stead.

It rhymes and is true. Coldplay have produced the same whiney crap for years, Radiohead have produced a few crap tracks, but most of their stuff is genius.

Guns N' Roses

Oh yeah, I forgot them. Although they're closer to 'crap' than 'good'.

That song is why they're better than the Beatles.

Heh. That song is better than anything the Beatles did, true, but the Beatles have a larger body of songs that I like.

When I found out that it was the Rolling Stones that did Paint it Black, I went out and bought an album by them. Unfortunately, the only one the store had was "Let it Bleed". It sucked, and I haven't bothered with getting anything else.

I'd say Good - 20%, Sucks - 80%. Aside from "Paint it Black", I can't think of any songs of theirs I like, but there's probably a couple more.
-snippage-
Yeah that and Wild Horses.

Coldplay have released three albums, of which one is fairly good, one is passable, and one is crap.

Radiohead have released 6(?) albums, the first of which is poor, the next two are among the best albums ever made, the following two are challenging (in a good way), and the last one...wasn't fantastic, but is still better than Parachutes.

Radiohead have consistently proven that they can successfully change their style of music, while all Coldplay have done is plod along with their safe MOR. They've become a singles band, while Radiohead still focus on the album.Yes, but Coldplay sounds almost exactly like Radiohead except with a slightly better singer. I suppose you could say that Coldplay is overrated because they ripped off Radiohead, that I could agree with.

Heh. That song is better than anything the Beatles did, true, but the Beatles have a larger body of songs that I like.

When I found out that it was the Rolling Stones that did Paint it Black, I went out and bought an album by them. Unfortunately, the only one the store had was "Let it Bleed". It sucked, and I haven't bothered with getting anything else.I have Through the Past Darkly: Greatest Hits Vol. 2 by them. While it is their best song, "Mother's Little Helper" (also on there) is almost as good.

Yes, but Coldplay sounds almost exactly like Radiohead except with a slightly better singer. I suppose you could say that Coldplay is overrated because they ripped off Radiohead, that I could agree with.
I think Kid A and Amnesiac prove that Radiohead are clearly the more talented of the two bands though.

It doesn't matter which has the better singer. Thom Yorke's voice suits Radiohead's music perfectly, while I find that Chris Martin's voice is often overwhelmed by the music.

I think Kid A and Amnesiac prove that Radiohead are clearly the more talented of the two bands though.

It doesn't matter which has the better singer. Thom Yorke's voice suits Radiohead's music perfectly, while I find that Chris Martin's voice is often overwhelmed by the music.I don't disagree with you on this, I'd say Radiohead is better, but not for the reasons you listed.

I don't disagree with you on this, I'd say Radiohead is better, but not for the reasons you listed.
From what I can gather, you're saying that Radiohead are better than Coldplay because Coldplay were the ones that ripped Radiohead off, not the other way round. I'm sorry if I misunderstand you.

I'm saying that Radiohead are better because they've consistently produced very good albums, and they've shown they are more talented by showing they can successfully change styles.

From what I can gather, you're saying that Radiohead are better than Coldplay because Coldplay were the ones that ripped Radiohead off, not the other way round. I'm sorry if I misunderstand you.No, that's one reason, also I like "Creep", which is better than any Coldplay song.

I'm saying that Radiohead are better because they've consistently produced very good albums, and they've shown they are more talented by showing they can successfully change styles.Admittedly, I am unfamiliar with most of Radiohead's music, so I can't agree or disagree with this.

Nickleback are so so...

Oh, and another. The Sex Pistols. I like 'em, but there were quite a few punk bands of equal or better quality around anyway. If they hadn't existed, another would have taken their place.

Nickleback are so so...

Nah, they're shit, but not quite as bad as Creed.

Radiohead are a bit overrated, but I still love some of their stuff.

Nah, they're shit, but not quite as bad as Creed.
They are alright if you like the fact they have one set of chords that they rehash for every single song.

They are alright if you like the fact they have one set of chords that they rehash for every single song.

Even if you ignore that, everything about them is boring. His voice is one of the most tedious i've ever heard.

"This is how you remind me..." *zzzzzZZZzz*

Even if you ignore that, everything about them is boring. His voice is one of the most tedious i've ever heard.

"This is how you remind me..." *zzzzzZZZzz*
Heh i wouldn't buy one of their albums, unless i'd bought all the other albums i could ever want but they are more than that one song.-Not much though.
If i had a choice of listening to them or something of a lesser shit value or turning off the radiomo i'd probably listen to them.

Heh i wouldn't buy one of their albums, unless i'd bought all the other albums i could ever want but they are more than that one song.-Not much though.
If i had a choice of listening to them or something of a lesser shit value or turning off the radiomo i'd probably listen to them.

Well, I know that's not their only song. There's also "I like the dirt that's on your knees" or however it goes.

I borrowed an album once. I hated it. I'd honestly rather listen to Eminem.

Well, I know that's not their only song. There's also "I like the dirt that's on your knees" or however it goes.

I borrowed an album once. I hated it. I'd honestly rather listen to Eminem.
Eminem's great, especially so when compared to Nickelback. Nickelback did one 'good' song - the first one off the album that had How You Remind Me on it. Even then it was only just about average. I use the word 'good' in a comparative sense.

Eminem's great, especially so when compared to Nickelback. Nickelback did one 'good' song - the first one off the album that had How You Remind Me on it. Even then it was only just about average. I use the word 'good' in a comparative sense.

Eminem is hit and miss. He does have some great songs, but he also has some lame and shitty ones too. And some alright ones that get old fast.

Eminem is hit and miss. He does have some great songs, but he also has some lame and shitty ones too. And some alright ones that get old fast.
Actually, if you know what the Eminem's rapping about before you hear the actual song, you can work out if it's going to be good.
For example:
Rapping about Kim = shit.
Rapping about his mother = shit.
Rapping about drugs = good.
Rapping about crime = good.

Eminem is hit and miss. He does have some great songs, but he also has some lame and shitty ones too. And some alright ones that get old fast.
Don't they all?

The Grateful Dead - over-rated and not good.

But I do like U2.

Well, I know that's not their only song. There's also "I like the dirt that's on your knees" or however it goes.

I borrowed an album once. I hated it. I'd honestly rather listen to Eminem.
Nah-ah Slim shady is better.:p
I don't like the Hate that Eminem brings to music.

There are alot of them out there. I know of three off the top of my head (Nirvana, The Beatles, U2) I mean, even if they are over-rated they are still decent. although The Beatles is pretty high up on my list behind, if anyone, Bob Dylan. So, poll coming. Who thinks theses bands are good but over-rated (ie. called the best band in the universe)

The logical self-contradiction....<sob>....