NationStates Jolt Archive


Racism Test

The Atlantian islands
03-04-2006, 02:31
http://216.139.225.188/zenhex/quiz.php?id=5989

Someone sent me this test and I thought it was pretty funny.

The end results are sorta lame...obviously extreame, but I'd like to know what people click on each of the individual questions.

Atleast I thought it was fun.
Revnia
03-04-2006, 02:36
seems to be made by someone from Aryan Nations given the possible reward answers.....
The Atlantian islands
03-04-2006, 02:38
seems to be made by someone from Aryan Nations given the possible reward answers.....

Yeah...like I said...stupid end results..very extreme.
Rangerville
03-04-2006, 02:42
You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.

lmao..i think i like being racially unaware thanks.
ShooFlee
03-04-2006, 02:43
yeah...This is what mine said:
You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.
Awsome-ville 2
03-04-2006, 02:47
Your Results:
You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.
[no image]
Seig Heil! You are a true comrade (You scored 0)
Your a descent Redneck (You scored 0)
You need to be more racially aware. (You scored 2)
You race traitor! (You scored 2)

I'm not even white! This quiz is stupid, what did you rate it?
The Atlantian islands
03-04-2006, 02:48
Did anyone find the 3rd answer to the first question, "You call him a rag head, find the cheesies and throw the money on the counter, telling him to buy deoderant with the change then leave." REALLY REALLY FUNNY?
The Atlantian islands
03-04-2006, 02:48
Your Results:
You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.
[no image]
Seig Heil! You are a true comrade (You scored 0)
Your a descent Redneck (You scored 0)
You need to be more racially aware. (You scored 2)
You race traitor! (You scored 2)

I'm not even white! This quiz is stupid, what did you rate it?

I didnt rate it...its retarded...I just thought it was funny.

What answers did you pick per question?
Hell in America
03-04-2006, 02:48
Seig Heil! You are a true comrade
Welcome brother or sister, you have seen the light and are a true comrade...Seig heil 14/88


Works for me, as I am a national socialist and will say loud and proud that I am racist
IL Ruffino
03-04-2006, 02:49
Your a descent Redneck
You know white is right..keep it up
The Atlantian islands
03-04-2006, 02:51
Seig Heil! You are a true comrade
Welcome brother or sister, you have seen the light and are a true comrade...Seig heil 14/88


Works for me, as I am a national socialist and will say loud and proud that I am racist

Ewwww a socialist!

Your a national socialist?

As in you take pride in Nazism?

As in you follow an idea that was defeated over 60 years ago?

As in you feel nothing for the lives of those murderd in the holocaust?

As in you feel nothing for the lives of those slaughtered in the total war that the world was engulfed in because of your idea?
Awsome-ville 2
03-04-2006, 02:51
1-A: Say thank you Sir and continue looking yourself.
2-A: Smile at Leroy the little black boy as you leave.
3-B: ask the teacher why jews were treated so bad, they are people too aren't they?
4-B: No, we are all createc equal.

The person couldn't spell 'Like' right!
Revnia
03-04-2006, 02:52
Seig Heil! You are a true comrade
Welcome brother or sister, you have seen the light and are a true comrade...Seig heil 14/88


Works for me, as I am a national socialist and will say loud and proud that I am racist

Congratufuckinglations. Now STFU.
Rangerville
03-04-2006, 02:56
1.D-Other, i would try to understand what he said, repeat stuff to see if i get it, if i didn't, i would thank him and look for them myself

2.A-Smile at Leroy

3.B-Ask why the Jews were killed, they're people too aren't they? I actually wouldn't do any of the things listed, i would be more likely to talk about the nature of evil and how important it is to remember the Holocaust, stuff like that.

4.B-No, we are all created equal
The Atlantian islands
03-04-2006, 02:57
Seig Heil! You are a true comrade
Welcome brother or sister, you have seen the light and are a true comrade...Seig heil 14/88


Works for me, as I am a national socialist and will say loud and proud that I am racist

Also, I've always wondered what the "sacred" 14/88 means?

Anyone care to enlighten me?
Utracia
03-04-2006, 02:59
It appears I need to be more racially aware. :rolleyes:
The Emperor Fenix
03-04-2006, 03:03
MY EYES ! They are blinded by diversity !
The Atlantian islands
03-04-2006, 03:04
1.D-Other, i would try to understand what he said, repeat stuff to see if i get it, if i didn't, i would thank him and look for them myself

2.A-Smile at Leroy

3.B-Ask why the Jews were killed, they're people too aren't they? I actually wouldn't do any of the things listed, i would be more likely to talk about the nature of evil and how important it is to remember the Holocaust, stuff like that.

4.B-No, we are all created equal

For 1.C-You call him a rag head, find the cheesies and throw the money on the counter, telling him to buy deoderant with the change then leave.
I probablly wouldnt actually say it but I would think it because I wouldnt like the fact that he works here but can speak the language....plus I would think telling him to buy deorderant would be really funny.

For 2.C (and then D)- You look around wondering what has the world come to and where are all the white kids?

Then I would do this, only because around where I live, the all black schools are shit and dangerous if your white.

You take your niece out of that school and send her to a private school that is FAR less diverse.

For 3.E-Cry, because you are jewish
While I am Jewish, I wouldnt cry, I would instead, explain to the teacher and the class what happend and inform them that it is important that we Forgive But Never Forget.

For 4.B-No, we are all created equal.

Even though in my mind, its more than that. I think we are equal but different but different. For instance, blacks, in my opinion, tend to be better athletes...and asians smarter..just all that. I dont tend to think any better than another though.
Vladimir Illich
03-04-2006, 03:06
Also, I've always wondered what the "sacred" 14/88 means?

Anyone care to enlighten me?

88 is "Heil Hitler" (H being the 8th letter in the alphabet)

14 must then be "A____ D____". "Adolf's Dead"? "Adolf's a Dork"?

Anyone?
Democratic Colonies
03-04-2006, 03:11
Works for me, as I am a national socialist and will say loud and proud that I am racist

You know, there's a reason behind why you lost the war.

Ever stop to think about it, ubermensch?
Thekalu
03-04-2006, 03:13
you got the 88 right but the 14 is the 14 words spoken by the "american fuhrer" which goes "we must secure the existance for our race and a future for white children"
The Atlantian islands
03-04-2006, 03:14
you got the 88 right but the 14 is the 14 words spoken by the "american fuhrer" which goes "we must secure the existance for our race and a future for white children"

I have to ask, whos the "American fuhrer"?:rolleyes:
Rangerville
03-04-2006, 03:14
Yes, we are different. Some people think we shouldn't see those difference, that we should ignore them, but i think ignoring them is just as bad as judging people based on them. I think our differences should be recognized and embraced. They are what make us who we are.
Demented Hamsters
03-04-2006, 04:32
Your a descent Redneck
What the hell? That makes not sense whatsoever. This guy has to really take some lessons in grammar and spelling.
As far as I can maek out, I seem to have a declining redneck.
CanuckHeaven
03-04-2006, 04:42
http://216.139.225.188/zenhex/quiz.php?id=5989

Someone sent me this test and I thought it was pretty funny.

The end results are sorta lame...obviously extreame, but I'd like to know what people click on each of the individual questions.

Atleast I thought it was fun.
That is not a racism test. That is a joke for sure and not a very funny one.
CanuckHeaven
03-04-2006, 04:44
Did anyone find the 3rd answer to the first question, "You call him a rag head, find the cheesies and throw the money on the counter, telling him to buy deoderant with the change then leave." REALLY REALLY FUNNY?
So, you are admitting that you passed the racist test?
Keruvalia
03-04-2006, 04:48
Your Results:
You race traitor!
Your a race traitor??????Your kind disgusts us.

Good.
CanuckHeaven
03-04-2006, 04:49
Ewwww a socialist!

Your a national socialist?

As in you take pride in Nazism?

As in you follow an idea that was defeated over 60 years ago?

As in you feel nothing for the lives of those murderd in the holocaust?

As in you feel nothing for the lives of those slaughtered in the total war that the world was engulfed in because of your idea?
Wow, you really get serious defending your "race", attack the poster who claims to be a "racist", yet find the following "REALLY, REALLY, FUNNY"?

Did anyone find the 3rd answer to the first question, "You call him a rag head, find the cheesies and throw the money on the counter, telling him to buy deoderant with the change then leave." REALLY REALLY FUNNY?
I see a problem, do you see a problem?
The Atlantian islands
03-04-2006, 04:59
Wow, you really get serious defending your "race", attack the poster who claims to be a "racist", yet find the following "REALLY, REALLY, FUNNY"?


I see a problem, do you see a problem?

Not really, just because I tend to not like arabs/persians/east indians (that whole area) and get disgusted by someone who smells bad and doesnt use deoderant, doesnt mean I have any love for national socialists or people who sympathize with Nazis.

I'm not really sure where you see a problem.

I dont have to LOVE everyone to be against Nazism do I?

I mean if thats the case I'm sure you will only find a few who, according to you, are fit to dislike Nazism, its followers and all that it stands for.

I see a problem. Its your logic.
The Atlantian islands
03-04-2006, 05:00
So, you are admitting that you passed the racist test?

Yeah, I passed it because I dont like people who live in my country, own a store, yet cant speak my language...not too mention they smell.

And I passed it because I wouldnt want my kid going to an all black school....if you have seen what they are like you would know why, unless your truley stupid.

I fail to see anything wrong here.
The Atlantian islands
03-04-2006, 05:01
That is not a racism test. That is a joke for sure and not a very funny one.

It was a joke...and I thought it was funny, if you dont then whatever, just relax.
Keruvalia
03-04-2006, 05:01
I fail to see anything wrong here.

You're a racist and, well, that's just wrong.
The Atlantian islands
03-04-2006, 05:04
You're a racist and, well, that's just wrong.

Would you want you kid to be the only white kid in an all black school?

Have you ever SEEN an all black school?
CanuckHeaven
03-04-2006, 05:13
Not really, just because I tend to not like arabs/persians/east indians (that whole area) and get disgusted by someone who smells bad and doesnt use deoderant, doesnt mean I have any love for national socialists or people who sympathize with Nazis.

I'm not really sure where you see a problem.

I dont have to LOVE everyone to be against Nazism do I?

I mean if thats the case I'm sure you will only find a few who, according to you, are fit to dislike Nazism, its followers and all that it stands for.

I see a problem. Its your logic.
No problem with my logic. However, I do see the irony of this thread.

This thread isn't about Nazism, although you appear to be turning it in that direction? It is about racism!! Apparently you passed the test, and yet you get pissed at someone else who passed the test, but not because of the racial slants but because of the religious slants.

You still don't get it do you?
CanuckHeaven
03-04-2006, 05:16
Yeah, I passed it because I dont like people who live in my country, own a store, yet cant speak my language...not too mention they smell.
Well, you see, it is like this.....some people stink on the outside, and other people stink on the inside. The ones that tend to stink on the inside are far more offensive.
The Atlantian islands
03-04-2006, 05:20
No problem with my logic. However, I do see the irony of this thread.

This thread isn't about Nazism, although you appear to be turning it in that direction? It is about racism!! Apparently you passed the test, and yet you get pissed at someone else who passed the test, but not because of the racial slants but because of the religious slants.

You still don't get it do you?

I didnt get pissed that he passed the tests, I got pissed that he claimed himself as a proud supporter of National Socialism.

Who cares if I passed it.

I'll say it again, I wouldnt send my kids to an all black school. Would you?

If not, does that make you a racist?

Does that make you inelegible to denounce Nazism?
The Atlantian islands
03-04-2006, 05:21
Well, you see, it is like this.....some people stink on the outside, and other people stink on the inside. The ones that tend to stink on the inside are far more offensive.

So I stink on the inside because I dont like people who smell bad and cant speak the language of the country they're living in?

Ha, your gonna find, my friend, that this is a smelly smelly world we're living in, if you go by your logic.
Caelablonde
03-04-2006, 05:33
Your Results:
You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.
[no image]
Seig Heil! You are a true comrade (You scored 0)
Your a descent Redneck (You scored 0)
You need to be more racially aware. (You scored 2)
You race traitor! (You scored 2)

I'm not even white! This quiz is stupid, what did you rate it?

you don't have to be white to be racist you idoit. don't you get it everyone's a little bit racist. ever heard of that song? No? well you need to
Revnia
03-04-2006, 05:42
Hey the dude I told to STFU actually did! Is this a first? I guess it's not too late.....
Infinite Revolution
03-04-2006, 05:53
Take the quiz:
How Racist are you (http://quiz.myyearbook.com/zenhex/quiz.php?id=5989)

You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.
Quizzes by myYearbook.com -- the World's Biggest Yearbook! (http://www.myyearbook.com/)


well racially unaware works for me *shrugs*
CanuckHeaven
03-04-2006, 06:15
So I stink on the inside because I dont like people who smell bad and cant speak the language of the country they're living in?
You are trying to simplify your hatred, when it is far more complex than that.

Ha, your gonna find, my friend, that this is a smelly smelly world we're living in, if you go by your logic.
Like I stated earlier, there is nothing wrong with my logic, and I have been around long enough to see an awful lot of misdirected hatred, which has resulted in the deaths of millions of people.

You want everyone to have reverance for the Holocaust, yet you see nothing wrong with exterminating Muslims.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10382177&postcount=92

How can you condemn genocide with one breath and condone it with the next?
Tekania
03-04-2006, 06:34
Your Results:
You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.
[no image]
All of the possible quiz results for this quiz:

* Seig Heil! You are a true comrade (You scored 0)
* Your a descent Redneck (You scored 0)
* You need to be more racially aware. (You scored 3)
* You race traitor! (You scored 1)
M3rcenaries
03-04-2006, 06:38
You need to be more racially aware. OHZ NOES!
Impunia
03-04-2006, 06:50
I think it's telling that the quiz maker needs an attendant to show him where the Cheetos display is in a convenience store.

I mean, it's not as if the layout of such a place is especially complicated.
Laerod
03-04-2006, 07:41
I didn't really know what to answer for the first one. There's no 7/11s here, very few Indians, and I wouldn't be asking for anything that I know will make me puke.

If this was a joke, it sucked pretty bad.
Entralla
03-04-2006, 07:48
Ewwww a socialist!

Your a national socialist?

As in you take pride in Nazism?

As in you follow an idea that was defeated over 60 years ago?

As in you feel nothing for the lives of those murderd in the holocaust?

As in you feel nothing for the lives of those slaughtered in the total war that the world was engulfed in because of your idea?


Yeah. So?
M3rcenaries
03-04-2006, 07:51
Yeah. So?
He's jewish.
Lunatic Goofballs
03-04-2006, 08:06
I didn't really know what to answer for the first one. There's no 7/11s here, very few Indians, and I wouldn't be asking for anything that I know will make me puke.

If this was a joke, it sucked pretty bad.

For me, I didn't know how to answer it because I can't imagine not being able to find Cheetos in a store the size of a 7/11. And if didn't, I'd have enough sense to assume they were out. There was no "I'd never stand in a line to ask for Cheetos anyway" choice. :p
Keruvalia
03-04-2006, 08:35
Would you want you kid to be the only white kid in an all black school?

Actually, where I grew up, I was from one of the few white families. Then again, I'm a Jew. There's a reason we marched with the blacks during the civil rights movement.

We know what it's like to be stepped on, cast out, kicked, kept poor, and enslaved by those who would call themselves our "superior".

We know what it's like to have to smile when you'd rather punch someone in the throat. We know what it's like to deal with people like you.
Keruvalia
03-04-2006, 08:38
He's jewish.

No, he isn't. He doesn't even know what 'oy gevalt' means. He doesn't understand even the simplest parts of our culture, tradition, or history.

He may claim to be Jewish for whatever reason he does so, but Jewish he is not.
Gravlen
03-04-2006, 09:21
I have to ask, whos the "American fuhrer"?:rolleyes:
http://www.wma.com/0/cta/comedy/comedy_connection/imgs/7.14.05/bob_saget.jpg
Perhaps?
JiangGuo
03-04-2006, 09:54
It is ironic that the historical Aryans are closer to Iranian-Persians rather than Europeans; precisely what these these neo-Nazi punks hate.
Rashidya
03-04-2006, 10:05
You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help :rolleyes: ..... I always saw myself as being very racially aware, seeing as how im so mixed (racially) that it would be a shame if I wasn't....

1. E - I would have just asked him in Hindi, make things easier on both of us.
2. B - Sometimes you need to have a helping hand in childhood friendships, lol
3. B - To be honest, I wouldn't do any of those. The most I would say on the issue is about the acts of what happened,ignorance, and how weak the human mind can be, not specifically that they were Jewish
4. B - Thats just a stupid question
Rashidya
03-04-2006, 10:15
Would you want you kid to be the only white kid in an all black school?

I didnt realize that they meant the school was all black with only two white kids....i would have to change my answer than and say I'd send her to a private school, Im all for diversity but honestly, not trying to sound rude, but the all black schools ive seen were I grew up were horrible
Bolol
03-04-2006, 11:34
I get a kind of tightness in my chest whenever I witness something of innate stupidity.
Neu Leonstein
03-04-2006, 11:46
You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.

Geee, I'm so surprised...:rolleyes:

1) Number four. I do it all the time at Uni. Sometimes you need to repeat stuff, and I expect others to do the same for me.

2) First answer. I smile at all sorts of kids if they look at me.

3) Number two...well, it's a lot more complex than that.

4) Where's the option that says that "Aryans" aren't a race? Anyways, I chose the second.
Laerod
03-04-2006, 11:46
It is ironic that the historical Aryans are closer to Iranian-Persians rather than Europeans; precisely what these these neo-Nazi punks hate.Actually, they claim white-skinned were responsible for the civilizations in those areas and that the reason they declined was that white-skinned people left.
Hamilay
03-04-2006, 11:50
Yeah. So?

Troll alert!... Ah, what the hell. STFU. :upyours:
Zexaland
03-04-2006, 13:30
You are blinded by diversity and need help.

:rolleyes:

"Mine eyes! Zee googles do nuthang!!"
Kanabia
03-04-2006, 14:38
:rolleyes:

"Mine eyes! Zee googles do nuthang!!"

You win this thread. :D
Luporum
03-04-2006, 14:45
I took an online psychological survey on subliminal reactions based on race on the Harvard website (I'll look for the link later) and I was predisposed against my own race. :p

Damn whitey.
CanuckHeaven
03-04-2006, 14:59
No, he isn't. He doesn't even know what 'oy gevalt' means. He doesn't understand even the simplest parts of our culture, tradition, or history.

He may claim to be Jewish for whatever reason he does so, but Jewish he is not.
You mean that he is truely not Jewish, or is not a true practitioner of Judaism?
Cape Isles
03-04-2006, 15:18
You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.

All of the possible quiz results for this quiz:

* Seig Heil! You are a true comrade (You scored 0)
* Your a descent Redneck (You scored 1)
* You need to be more racially aware. (You scored 2)
* You race traitor! (You scored 0)

So what does this tell me?
Thriceaddict
03-04-2006, 15:27
You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.

All of the possible quiz results for this quiz:

* Seig Heil! You are a true comrade (You scored 0)
* Your a descent Redneck (You scored 1)
* You need to be more racially aware. (You scored 2)
* You race traitor! (You scored 0)

So what does this tell me?
That you're not racist enough.
Stupid test
Keruvalia
03-04-2006, 16:54
You mean that he is truely not Jewish, or is not a true practitioner of Judaism?

One does not need to practice Judaism to be Jewish.
Posi
03-04-2006, 17:02
ou need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.

Hurrah!
Ilie
03-04-2006, 17:09
Crap, I am racially unaware. But at least I am not racist! What is the middle ground?
Neo Imperial Japan
03-04-2006, 17:50
Seig Heil! You are a true comrade

What the Hell!??

I'm looking at myself and said.... but I'm asian... LMAO....
Awsome-ville 2
03-04-2006, 21:09
you don't have to be white to be racist you idoit. don't you get it everyone's a little bit racist. ever heard of that song? No? well you need to
Yes, I know this, but it said something about an all black school and wondering where all the white kids are. I would be more likely to go to an all white school and wonder where all the Asian, Indian, Hispanic, and black kids are because I've never seen a school that doesn;t have one kid of that race, but I've seen many schools that have one or two white kids in each class room. And it's kind of obvious that you don't need to be white to be racist.
Laerod
03-04-2006, 21:12
Crap, I am racially unaware. But at least I am not racist! What is the middle ground?Nazis think in terms of "You're with us or against us!" They need no middle ground ;)
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 01:27
You are trying to simplify your hatred, when it is far more complex than that.


Like I stated earlier, there is nothing wrong with my logic, and I have been around long enough to see an awful lot of misdirected hatred, which has resulted in the deaths of millions of people.

You want everyone to have reverance for the Holocaust, yet you see nothing wrong with exterminating Muslims.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10382177&postcount=92

How can you condemn genocide with one breath and condone it with the next?

I didnt say I see nothing wrong with exterminating Muslims...stop misquoting me. I just said that Muslims are pissing alot of people off and I wouldnt be suprised if its enough to backlash at the whole community, even if it ISNT the whole community commitng the crimes.

As can be seen by the post that you provided for me...."the mere fact that the bad ones are overshadowing the not bad ones..might just be enough for a war on all muslims, regardless if their extreamist or not."

Jesus, anyone who sees nothing wrong with "exterminating" people is just insane....stop trying to pin me against the wall.
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 01:29
Actually, where I grew up, I was from one of the few white families. Then again, I'm a Jew. There's a reason we marched with the blacks during the civil rights movement.

We know what it's like to be stepped on, cast out, kicked, kept poor, and enslaved by those who would call themselves our "superior".

We know what it's like to have to smile when you'd rather punch someone in the throat. We know what it's like to deal with people like you.

Blah blah blah...stop living in the past......what are you getting at..what does this have to do with my question..."Would you want you/or your kids to go to an all black school"?
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 01:31
No, he isn't. He doesn't even know what 'oy gevalt' means. He doesn't understand even the simplest parts of our culture, tradition, or history.

He may claim to be Jewish for whatever reason he does so, but Jewish he is not.

What the hell are you talking about.

I am Jewish....alot more of a Jew than you...YOU PRACTICE ISLAM.... I PRACTICE JUDAISM....Jesus, :rolleyes:

Who cares if I dont know Yiddish....I'm an American....I know English....I dont need to know Yiddish, its a dead language anyway.

I know all about the Jewish religion, and the Jewish history...I fail to see what Jewish culture is...and you have yet to point it out for me.
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 01:31
I didnt realize that they meant the school was all black with only two white kids....i would have to change my answer than and say I'd send her to a private school, Im all for diversity but honestly, not trying to sound rude, but the all black schools ive seen were I grew up were horrible

My point exactly.
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 01:33
Geee, I'm so surprised...:rolleyes:

1) Number four. I do it all the time at Uni. Sometimes you need to repeat stuff, and I expect others to do the same for me.

2) First answer. I smile at all sorts of kids if they look at me.

3) Number two...well, it's a lot more complex than that.

4) Where's the option that says that "Aryans" aren't a race? Anyways, I chose the second.

Yeah, but Neu...would you send your kid to an all black school? Or perhaps, since you've never been to America, you've never seen our all black schools.....they are horrible. Being White is a deathwish at them.
Franberry
04-04-2006, 01:34
Im blind to different races, I guess thats good.....
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 01:34
Yeah. So?

You dont see problems in that?

You dont see that you guys lost the war, and your ideas are dead?
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 01:35
You mean that he is truely not Jewish, or is not a true practitioner of Judaism?

I'm not his "stereotypical" Jew, for whatever reason...probably because I dont speak Yiddish or whatever gay reason he wants to come up with next....But the fact of the matter is, I practice Judaism, as do my parents....while he practices Islam....I dont see how he can call himself a Jew and me not...It doesnt make any sense.

Dont listen to him on this.
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 01:37
One does not need to practice Judaism to be Jewish.

Yes you do.

YOU.ARE.NOT.JEWISH.

The Jewish community DOES NOT ACCEPT converts to another religion, especially Islam, as still being Jewish.

Accept it or deny it, it is still fact.
Neu Leonstein
04-04-2006, 01:38
Yeah, but Neu...would you send your kid to an all black school?
I'd send my kids to the best school possible (short of a private school - god I hate that overprivileged scum). Who else attends it is of no consequence to me.

Or perhaps, since you've never been to America, you've never seen our all black schools.....they are horrible. Being White is a deathwish at them.
I'm pretty sure that's a lot of hyperbole right there.

And besides, the criterion you're looking at is schools in poor urban areas - not the ethnicity of the kids attending. I wouldn't necessarily send my kids into a school in Berlin Kreuzberg either.
Neu Leonstein
04-04-2006, 01:39
...probably because I dont speak Yiddish...
I speak Yiddish...:p
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 01:41
I'd send my kids to the best school possible (short of a private school - god I hate that overprivileged scum). Who else attends it is of no consequence to me.

I go to a private school...but only because Floridas public schools or notoriously bad. :p


And besides, the criterion you're looking at is schools in poor urban areas - not the ethnicity of the kids attending. I wouldn't necessarily send my kids into a school in Berlin Kreuzberg either.

Yeah but you dont understand. Its not really your fault, you just have no first hand experience.

I go to a private school down here...NOT in a poor urban area. The black kids are still (for the most part) ghetto wanna be thugs who threaten the white kids....not all...but a decent majority.

Now just imagine that at an ALL black school.

If you had any love for your kid...you WOULD care you else attends it.
Strasse II
04-04-2006, 01:41
"Seig Heil! You are a true comrade
Welcome brother or sister, you have seen the light and are a true comrade...Seig heil 14/88"


:)

White is right.






Oh yea liberals come on and start flaming me!
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 01:41
I speak Yiddish...:p

My Grandma can speak German...so I'm not suprised...;)
Neu Leonstein
04-04-2006, 01:47
Oh yea liberals come on and start flaming me!
*Ignores* (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/liberalism/)

I go to a private school...but only because Floridas public schools or notoriously bad. :p
It hasn't got anything to do with the quality of the school. I went to a public school and I still got into the top 5% of the state.
It's a matter of working hard, not what sort of support you get.

I go to a private school down here...NOT in a poor urban area. The black kids are still (for the most part) ghetto wanna be thugs who threaten the white kids....not all...but a decent majority.
And obviously there no white bullies. Is that what you're telling me?

I sure as hell met some at my "all white" schools.
HeyRelax
04-04-2006, 01:51
Black schools don't tend to be bad schools because they're black schools. They tend to be bad schools because African Americans, on average, have less money, and thus the schools tend to be in poorer neighborhoods with bad funding that good teachers stay away from.

There are some general differences across races, but those differences are averages and it's ignorant to treat them as absolutes. I would say, black culture is far different from white culture, but that's mostly a nurture issue, not nature.

And I don't think this test is serious. I got a 'connection refused' when I finished it.

Ever think black kids who are 'wannabe ghetto thugs' are mostly just playing? Imitating rappers' images isn't any different from white kids playing cowboy. Just like a white kid who plays cowboy isn't going to go around dueling gunslingers, a black kid who plays rapper isn't going to go around mugging people.
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 01:52
*Ignores* (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/liberalism/)


It hasn't got anything to do with the quality of the school. I went to a public school and I still got into the top 5% of the state.
It's a matter of working hard, not what sort of support you get.


And obviously there no white bullies. Is that what you're telling me?

I sure as hell met some at my "all white" schools.

No, there are...but the fact of that matter is...no matter how you want to twist it...blacks are way more aggressive in schools.

Even in private ones NOT located in poor urban areas.

I'll leave the reason WHY up to interpretation, because franky...I dont know myself....I'd love to hear people post why they think so...unless its some kinda of, "because they're enferior" crap..in that case, keep it to yourselves.
HeyRelax
04-04-2006, 01:57
No, there are...but the fact of that matter is...no matter how you want to twist it...blacks are way more aggressive in schools.

Even in private ones NOT located in poor urban areas.

I'll leave the reason WHY up to interpretation, because franky...I dont know myself....I'd love to hear people post why they think so...unless its some kinda of, "because they're enferior" crap..in that case, keep it to yourselves.

You say 'More aggressive'. I say 'More direct'.

I don't see many black kids planting rumors that somebody is a slut to damage each others' popularity. Mostly white kids do that.
Neu Leonstein
04-04-2006, 01:58
No, there are...but the fact of that matter is...no matter how you want to twist it...blacks are way more aggressive in schools.
Well, to be honest, there is simply no evidence for that. I haven't experienced anything like it (although most black kids here are actually from Africa), and I haven't seen it with the Turkish kids either (they say the same stuff about Turkish kids in Germany, just like they did with the Italians before that).

You'll have to do a lot of statistical analysis to take out all the other variables, like poverty or the structure of the family at home, and my knowledge would indicate that then ethnic group has so significant effect on aggression or violence.
Strasse II
04-04-2006, 02:05
Black schools don't tend to be bad schools because they're black schools. They tend to be bad schools because African Americans, on average, have less money, and thus the schools tend to be in poorer neighborhoods with bad funding that good teachers stay away from.

There are some general differences across races, but those differences are averages and it's ignorant to treat them as absolutes. I would say, black culture is far different from white culture, but that's mostly a nurture issue, not nature.

And I don't think this test is serious. I got a 'connection refused' when I finished it.


"good" teachers in all black schools tend to get threatened,beat up, and even molested. So I think there is a major reason why "good" teachers dont go to these schools.

Also 90% of all hate crimes in this country are commited by black people, and over 1/3 of all black males in America have been in a prison at least once(regardless of their economic status)

If you doubt these facts then please leave your sheltered little suburben town and go live in a city with a large black population, you will wittness their attitudes and actions in first person view.

Honestly you white liberals living in the northern area of America need to move further south(and east for that matter) and see what your supporting.
Neu Leonstein
04-04-2006, 02:09
Also 90% of all hate crimes in this country are commited by black people, and over 1/3 of all black males in America have been in a prison at least once(regardless of their economic status)

If you doubt these facts then please leave your sheltered little suburben town and go live in a city with a large black population, you will wittness their attitudes and actions in first person view.
Either that, or ask you for statistics that prove your point.

Which I am now officially doing.
Strasse II
04-04-2006, 02:13
Either that, or ask you for statistics that prove your point.

Which I am now officially doing.


You will probably stumble upon an ADL or ACLU website(or a website that has gathered the information from the ADL or ACLU) declaring these statistics to be wrong, and if you want to believe these liars then that is your choice.
Strasse II
04-04-2006, 02:18
http://www.jabpage.org/features/racestat/vcrime.html

http://www.loompanics.com/Articles/hatecrimes.html

http://www.vdare.com/francis/hatecrimes.htm

here are just some links
CanuckHeaven
04-04-2006, 02:24
http://www.jabpage.org/features/racestat/vcrime.html

http://www.loompanics.com/Articles/hatecrimes.html

http://www.vdare.com/francis/hatecrimes.htm

here are just some links
How do these dubious and biased links help support your claims?
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 02:25
http://www.jabpage.org/features/racestat/vcrime.html

http://www.loompanics.com/Articles/hatecrimes.html

http://www.vdare.com/francis/hatecrimes.htm

here are just some links

Dude, I'm all for you trying to prove your point..hell I side with you on this one...but when I read "Jewish controlled media" in the first sentance of your first source....Well lets just say its not exactly HELPING the cause...:p
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 02:26
How do these dubious and biased links help support your claims?

Did you read my post 78?

It was directed towards your question.
Keruvalia
04-04-2006, 02:28
I am Jewish....alot more of a Jew than you...YOU PRACTICE ISLAM.... I PRACTICE JUDAISM....Jesus, :rolleyes:

You know nothing of my people, my culture, or the religion of Judaism.

You do not practice Judaism and, well, I suggest you be prepared for every single post linked that you've made on the sabbath as my proof before you go any further.

You have proven by virtue of your posts, when you've posted, what you've said, what you've questioned, how you've questioned it, and your inability to grasp that a person born Jewish is Jewish for life regardless of what religion they practice that you cannot in any way, shape, or form be Jewish.

There's no shame in not being Jewish. Just admit it and we'll move on from there. At least, though, if you're going to pretend to be Jewish, learn a little something about us first.
Keruvalia
04-04-2006, 02:31
The Jewish community DOES NOT ACCEPT converts to another religion, especially Islam, as still being Jewish.


I already proved you wrong on that one. That you refuse to accept Rabbincal evidence is further my proof that you cannot be Jewish.

Give it up.
Kyronea
04-04-2006, 02:32
Strasse, there are many reasons for it. First off, the African-American culture has been oppressed from before Day One of this country's existence. Certainly a lot less in recent times, but the history is still there. Also, there are other reasons underlining it. I'm not forgiving those who commit crimes. But deciding that all blacks are worthless because a great many commit crimes--DUE TO POVERTY AND OTHER CONDITIONS, NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR RACE--is completely idiotic and disgusting. I've many black friends. You need to open your mind and reexamine your facts. Honestly, it's just stupid to think the way you do.
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 02:43
I already proved you wrong on that one. That you refuse to accept Rabbincal evidence is further my proof that you cannot be Jewish.

Give it up.

No.

You are not Jewish.

"If a Jew converts to another religion the person loses standing as a member of the Jewish community and becomes known as an apostate. In the past, family and friends were said often to formally mourn for the person, though this is rarely done today."
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 02:46
You know nothing of my people, my culture, or the religion of Judaism.

You do not practice Judaism and, well, I suggest you be prepared for every single post linked that you've made on the sabbath as my proof before you go any further.

You have proven by virtue of your posts, when you've posted, what you've said, what you've questioned, how you've questioned it, and your inability to grasp that a person born Jewish is Jewish for life regardless of what religion they practice that you cannot in any way, shape, or form be Jewish.

There's no shame in not being Jewish. Just admit it and we'll move on from there. At least, though, if you're going to pretend to be Jewish, learn a little something about us first.


How can you say I dont know about the religion of Judaims...I beleive in it...what are you talking about?

I dont follow the sabbath...nor do I keep kosher...but so what....that doesnt undermine my faith in Judaism.

I beleive that Judaism is a thought, a religion...and being born Jewish is just stupid....you need to actually have free will to see if you want to accept the religion or not...as you have to do for every other religion.

Of course theres no shame in not being Jewish, you of all people should know.
Keruvalia
04-04-2006, 02:51
"If a Jew converts to another religion the person loses standing as a member of the Jewish community and becomes known as an apostate. In the past, family and friends were said often to formally mourn for the person, though this is rarely done today."

Lemme guess ... your source on that is Wikipedia.

Not a scholarly source, kid.
Macisikan
04-04-2006, 02:54
I'm blinded by diversity, apparently, but that's a side issue...

While the topic selected for this quiz is certainly an interesting one, the questions are too limited, the grammar is atrocious and the spelling horrific. In addition, the attempt at impartiality can be best described as "laughable".
This is a very poor attempt.
2/10. See me after class.
(act like a little kid and I will treat you like one)

Oh, and I'm not touching that Jew/non-Jew debate with a twenty-foot cattle prod.
Keruvalia
04-04-2006, 02:54
I dont follow the sabbath...nor do I keep kosher...but so what....that doesnt undermine my faith in Judaism.

Ummm ... if you don't keep the sabbath, you're breaking one of the mitzvot written by Hashem's own hand. How is that in any way practicing Judaism? Also breaking kashrut laws, eh?

So tell me, pischer, what exactly do you consider "practice of Judaism"? The instructions for practice are in Torah and you break those instructions and still claim to follow it? Laughable.

Also, Woody Allen is an atheist, so is Mel Brooks. Are they not Jewish?
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 02:57
Lemme guess ... your source on that is Wikipedia.

Not a scholarly source, kid.


So what..its a correct source.

I asked my Rabbi about it...hes the rabbi of Chabad...just in case you think I'm making it up, and I asked my parents who are both Jewish and attend Chabad....they all say if you convert your no longer a Jew...and then gave me a weird look when I asked them about converting to Islam....I wonder why :rolleyes:

Your converting to a relgion that hates your family....but whatever, to each his own.
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 03:01
Ummm ... if you don't keep the sabbath, you're breaking one of the mitzvot written by Hashem's own hand. How is that in any way practicing Judaism? Also breaking kashrut laws, eh?

So tell me, pischer, what exactly do you consider "practice of Judaism"? The instructions for practice are in Torah and you break those instructions and still claim to follow it? Laughable.

Also, Woody Allen is an atheist, so is Mel Brooks. Are they not Jewish?

Christians that dont attend Church regularly and dont give up something for lent are still considered Christians, are they not.

I still beleive in the religion, I beleive in God, and I try to live my life by the values and morals instilled in God's 10 commandments.

I dont think God cares if I eat a burger from Mcdonalds as long as I live my life as a good person.

After all, we did get rid of our preists after the burning of the second temple, now the religion is open to interpretation....sort of like what the Christian reformation did to their religion.

Nope, dont consider them to be Jewish if they dont beleive in Judaism, let alone beleive in God.
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 03:02
I'm blinded by diversity, apparently, but that's a side issue...

While the topic selected for this quiz is certainly an interesting one, the questions are too limited, the grammar is atrocious and the spelling horrific. In addition, the attempt at impartiality can be best described as "laughable".
This is a very poor attempt.
2/10. See me after class.
(act like a little kid and I will treat you like one)

Oh, and I'm not touching that Jew/non-Jew debate with a twenty-foot cattle prod.

Yeah its a lame test, I just thought it was funny.

Good call on staying out of the debate though, ;)
M Antoinette
04-04-2006, 03:08
* Seig Heil! You are a true comrade (You scored 0)
* Your a descent Redneck (You scored 0)
* You need to be more racially aware. (You scored 4)
* You race traitor! (You scored 0)

Interesting.
Keruvalia
04-04-2006, 03:10
I asked my Rabbi about it...hes the rabbi of Chabad...just in case you think I'm making it up, and I asked my parents who are both Jewish and attend Chabad....they all say if you convert your no longer a Jew...and then gave me a weird look when I asked them about converting to Islam....I wonder why :rolleyes:

Liar. If you were a Lubavitcher, you'd keep glatt kashrut, you certainly would never post on shabbat, and you'd be busy right now with your Mechina studies right now and preparing for Parshah Tzav.

You'd be clinging to the 13 principles of Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon ("Mamonides", Saladin's personal physician) and would never cuss as much as you do, wouldn't talk about how hot Polish girls are or how you'd "ride" a neo-nazi girl's ideas out of her, and so on and so on.

You're not Chabad, but I suggest you read this:

http://www.chabad.org/library/article.asp?AID=45132

What Makes a Jew "Jewish"?

In the words of the Talmud (Sanhedrin 44a), "A Jew, although he has transgressed, is a Jew."

You are a liar and you need to cut it out.

Also, from the same damn site, we get this:

http://www.chabad.org/library/article.asp?AID=160964

So ... ummm ... that's it.
Keruvalia
04-04-2006, 03:13
I still beleive in the religion, I beleive in God, and I try to live my life by the values and morals instilled in God's 10 commandments.

Except the 4th, apparently, as you're more than willing to not follow the sabbath.

You also clearly don't try to live by the 9th as you're more than willing to lie about things.

Again, cut it out. You're losing. Badly.
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 03:14
Liar. If you were a Lubavitcher, you'd keep glatt kashrut, you certainly would never post on shabbat, and you'd be busy right now with your Mechina studies right now and preparing for Parshah Tzav.

You'd be clinging to the 13 principles of Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon ("Mamonides", Saladin's personal physician) and would never cuss as much as you do, wouldn't talk about how hot Polish girls are or how you'd "ride" a neo-nazi girl's ideas out of her, and so on and so on.

You're not Chabad, but I suggest you read this:

http://www.chabad.org/library/article.asp?AID=45132

What Makes a Jew "Jewish"?

In the words of the Talmud (Sanhedrin 44a), "A Jew, although he has transgressed, is a Jew."

You are a liar and you need to cut it out.

Also, from the same damn site, we get this:

http://www.chabad.org/library/article.asp?AID=160964

So ... ummm ... that's it.

First off, stop putting words in my mouth...I never said I was a chabadnic...I said my parents are....second of all...you asked me to ask the rabbi and my parents about it...and so I did...I gave you your answers...

This is just one guys opinion...so what...hes trying to make the guy feel more Jewish...what am I supposed to get out of it.

You are not a Jew...nor would you be classified one at the Chabad.
Keruvalia
04-04-2006, 03:18
You are not a Jew...nor would you be classified one at the Chabad.

What does it take, kid. I understand you're a mere 16-17, but surely even you can pull your head out of your ass long enough to realise just how very, very wrong you are.

You define a Jew as being solely "one who practices Judaism and if you don't practice Judaism, you are not a Jew" yet every single bit of Rabbinical teachings over the last 3000 years proves you wrong.

Yet, we can prove in this very thread that by your own deliberate breaking of essential commandments, you do not practice Judaism and are therefore, by your definition, not a Jew.

Either way, you are wrong and no Rabbi in this world would have give you the answer you claim. Give me the Rabbi's phone number. I will call him and record the phone conversation and prove, once and for all, that I am a Jew and you are a liar.
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 03:27
What does it take, kid. I understand you're a mere 16-17, but surely even you can pull your head out of your ass long enough to realise just how very, very wrong you are.

You define a Jew as being solely "one who practices Judaism and if you don't practice Judaism, you are not a Jew" yet every single bit of Rabbinical teachings over the last 3000 years proves you wrong.

Yet, we can prove in this very thread that by your own deliberate breaking of essential commandments, you do not practice Judaism and are therefore, by your definition, not a Jew.

Either way, you are wrong and no Rabbi in this world would have give you the answer you claim. Give me the Rabbi's phone number. I will call him and record the phone conversation and prove, once and for all, that I am a Jew and you are a liar.

No...I will do better...I'm going to ask every Jew I know if they consider a convert to Islam who practices Islam a Jew.
Keruvalia
04-04-2006, 03:32
No...I will do better...I'm going to ask every Jew I know if they consider a convert to Islam who practices Islam a Jew.

No, because you will be telling more lies. You can simply say you asked.

Give me the phone number of the Chabad Rabbi you spoke to or at least his name (I'll look him up) and I will record the phone conversation with him.

I'm offering you the chance to redeem yourself. To have a recorded phone conversation of the Rabbi telling me I am not Jewish.

You don't want to take me up on that?

What're you afraid of if you're not lieing? Aren't you the one who said that we need'nt worry about being checked up on if we have nothing to hide? So what do you have to hide?

Give me his name. I will call him in the morning.
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 03:34
No, because you will be telling more lies. You can simply say you asked.

Give me the phone number of the Chabad Rabbi you spoke to or at least his name (I'll look him up) and I will record the phone conversation with him.

I'm offering you the chance to redeem yourself. To have a recorded phone conversation of the Rabbi telling me I am not Jewish.

You don't want to take me up on that?

What're you afraid of if you're not lieing? Aren't you the one who said that we need'nt worry about being checked up on if we have nothing to hide? So what do you have to hide?

Give me his name. I will call him in the morning.

No...thats just weird.

But I will ask people and I swear on my life I will tell you the truth. I wont to get to the bottom of this as much as you do.

I swear it I will tell the truth.
Keruvalia
04-04-2006, 03:38
But I will ask people and I swear on my life I will tell you the truth. I wont to get to the bottom of this as much as you do.

I swear it I will tell the truth.

I don't believe you. I've already proven my side and you've offered nothing but what you say and what you say is wrong, though you refuse to admit that.

I have given hard evidence supported by scholarly sources and am willing to even go an extra step and talk to the very same Rabbi you claim to have spoken to.

So either give me the name or admit that you're lieing.
The Atlantian islands
04-04-2006, 03:40
I don't believe you. I've already proven my side and you've offered nothing but what you say and what you say is wrong, though you refuse to admit that.

I have given hard evidence supported by scholarly sources and am willing to even go an extra step and talk to the very same Rabbi you claim to have spoken to.

So either give me the name or admit that you're lieing.

I'm not lieing....

I'm going to do what I said, whether you do or do not want to hear the results.

I'm doing it for myself.
CanuckHeaven
04-04-2006, 06:34
I still beleive in the religion, I beleive in God, and I try to live my life by the values and morals instilled in God's 10 commandments.

I dont think God cares if I eat a burger from Mcdonalds as long as I live my life as a good person.

Nope, dont consider them to be Jewish if they dont beleive in Judaism, let alone beleive in God.
What good is this "religion" of yours when you are so filled with hate and anger (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10382177&postcount=92).

What good is it when you bear false witness against your neighbours (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10376696&postcount=81)?

What good is it when you advocate the destruction of innocent people (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10381750&postcount=18)?

What good is it when you openly display your "racism (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10687773&postcount=7)"?

If you believe those are God's "values and morals", then I do believe that you are wrong.
Zexaland
04-04-2006, 08:52
You win this thread. :D

Zexland: Winning threads since, like, 2001.
Laerod
04-04-2006, 09:13
And besides, the criterion you're looking at is schools in poor urban areas - not the ethnicity of the kids attending. I wouldn't necessarily send my kids into a school in Berlin Kreuzberg either.Neukölln managed to leave Kreuzberg behind. Just recently, the Rütli-Schule officially applied to be dissolved because the teachers and administration couldn't take it anymore. Now they have policemen standing in front of the school to make sure the students don't bring weapons...
Neu Leonstein
04-04-2006, 13:00
Neukölln managed to leave Kreuzberg behind. Just recently, the Rütli-Schule officially applied to be dissolved because the teachers and administration couldn't take it anymore. Now they have policemen standing in front of the school to make sure the students don't bring weapons...
I heard...Bild just loved that, didn't they. :rolleyes:
Laerod
04-04-2006, 13:02
I heard...Bild just loved that, didn't they. :rolleyes:They claimed that it was the first school in Berlin under police protection. A lie. My school received police protection right after September 11th.
CanuckHeaven
04-04-2006, 14:21
Also, Woody Allen is an atheist, so is Mel Brooks. Are they not Jewish?
I find all of this very interesting. Were these people Jewish by birth or did they renounce Judaism? In either case, if they are in fact "atheist", then are they still considered God's "chosen people"?
Coimimeadh
04-04-2006, 14:33
Your Results:
Seig Heil! You are a true comrade
Welcome brother or sister, you have seen the light and are a true comrade...Seig heil 14/88:rolleyes:
Peisandros
04-04-2006, 14:45
Lmao.. "home slice".. I find that hilliarous for some reason.. Teehehe.

You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.

I love it how they're telling me I'm the one who needs to read a book.
CanuckHeaven
05-04-2006, 05:57
Does anyone have an answer to Post # 123?
R0cka
05-04-2006, 16:17
Seig Heil! You are a true comrade
Welcome brother or sister, you have seen the light and are a true comrade...Seig heil 14/88


Works for me, as I am a national socialist and will say loud and proud that I am racist

My Grandpa killed a whole bunch of your kind in the forties.

:sniper:
The Nuke Testgrounds
05-04-2006, 17:02
You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.

Hmmm.
PasturePastry
05-04-2006, 17:30
Interesting choice of words: "blinded by diversity". Wouldn't that be like having one's mind "befuddled by enlightenment"?
Keruvalia
05-04-2006, 18:46
I find all of this very interesting. Were these people Jewish by birth or did they renounce Judaism? In either case, if they are in fact "atheist", then are they still considered God's "chosen people"?

Yes, both Jewish by birth and yes still Jews.
CanuckHeaven
06-04-2006, 14:53
Yes, both Jewish by birth and yes still Jews.
Are they still considered God's "chosen people", even though they have transgressed?
Keruvalia
06-04-2006, 18:47
Are they still considered God's "chosen people", even though they have transgressed?

Of course. We weren't chosen because we were better or stronger or faster or prettier than anyone else on the planet. We were chosen because the Almighty loved Abraham so much and we were Abraham's children. You can't cease to be a child of Abraham by changing religions.

It started with the story of the Exodus. The most amazing thing about the story is that it is the one single time in history when God interfered with history and it was to get us set free. Normally God doesn't interfere. That's why we do all those things like not eat pork and observe the sabbath and whatnot whereas non-Jews are under no such obligations.

Changing religions and even declaring atheism doesn't change that.

Elijah did it once. He actually did what Atlantian is trying to do. Elijah went about declaring Jews to not be Jews because they didn't do the littlest of mitzvot and now, as a show to Elijah that some things are still done nearly Universally by all Jews - regardless of the Jew's religion or ethnicity - God has tasked Elijah with being present at every Brit Milah (circumsicion) and every Pesach Seder. In your face, Elijah!

Christian Jews, Buddhist Jews, Atheist Jews, even Muslim Jews: All still Jews, all "chosen" ... even if a man says they're not.
Jocabia
06-04-2006, 18:52
http://216.139.225.188/zenhex/quiz.php?id=5989

Someone sent me this test and I thought it was pretty funny.

The end results are sorta lame...obviously extreame, but I'd like to know what people click on each of the individual questions.

Atleast I thought it was fun.

What I find amusing is how bad the spelling is. I'm glad to see people continuing the stereotype that Aryans are stupid. Keeps people from taking them seriously.
Rhursbourg
06-04-2006, 19:19
You race traitor!
Your a race traitor??????Your kind disgusts us.
The Atlantian islands
06-04-2006, 20:00
I find all of this very interesting. Were these people Jewish by birth or did they renounce Judaism? In either case, if they are in fact "atheist", then are they still considered God's "chosen people"?

It depends....the poeple (both non Jewish and Jewish) that I know in real life would consider someone, born Jewish, who then converts to [Christianity] or drops religion completly, to be Atheist or [Christian]....But Keruvalia thinks otherwise.

It is from my experience that I, along with basically everyone else I know, beleive that if you dont practice Judaism...you are no longer a Jew.
Asbena
06-04-2006, 20:12
You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.

I am happy the way I am. Notice how all the questions you get 'race traitor' for are Saying thank you even if they were no help, but being courteous. (question 1) Inviting her friend over (How'd Bobby become Leroy though!?) Being JEWISH = race traitor for the holocaust (Question 3) and liking black people the most (Question 4.)

All except number 4 is really a stupid question. Even then number 4 is just plain wrong to begin with. This guy needs to get off the drugs and Hitler.
Culaypene
06-04-2006, 20:49
It is from my experience that I, along with basically everyone else I know, beleive that if you dont practice Judaism...you are no longer a Jew.

I think it depends on which sect of Judaism you belonged to and how hardcore your local community was. Religion is what brings the Jewish community together and if you renounce the Jewish faith then you have renounced the basis of your connection with that community and in some of the stricter communities your presense would no longer be appropriate as a non-believer. But I think that many of the younger and more open communities would still consider you a Jew (as in ethnically) because you grew up in the community, were raised in the traditions, have friends and family in the community, etc. There are many non-practicing Jews who still consider themselves to be Jews because they grew up in a Jewish environment and will, therefore, always have some sort of Jewish Identity.
Keruvalia
06-04-2006, 20:50
But Keruvalia thinks otherwise.

*sigh* You really are stupid, aren't you ...

*I* don't *think* so, I have *shown* it to *be* so through thousands of years of *Rabbinical* writings.

All you have is what your "friends" think.

You decide for yourself who to believe, Canuck.
CanuckHeaven
06-04-2006, 23:02
You decide for yourself who to believe, Canuck.
Well, I did ask you and not AI. :)

Thanks for your reply, which clearly makes far more sense, than I could expect from certain other individuals.
The Atlantian islands
06-04-2006, 23:27
Well, I did ask you and not AI. :)

Thanks for your reply, which clearly makes far more sense, than I could expect from certain other individuals.

I understand that you asked him and not me...I just thought you'd like you learn about Judaism from a Jew, not a Muslim.

But that would make too much sense for the left, I guess. :rolleyes:
Jocabia
06-04-2006, 23:36
I understand that you asked him and not me...I just thought you'd like you learn about Judaism from a Jew, not a Muslim.

But that would make too much sense for the left, I guess. :rolleyes:
Actually, that makes very little sense. Are you actually trying to claim that you and your friends practice the ONLY form of Judaism there is. Becuase absent of that, you have very little ground to stand on. A more generalized answer is going to be a better answer where there are differing views on the subject among the Jewish community. For many Jewish sects, I'd be considered a Jew. Does that make ME more of an authority than K or does that only work if people agree with you?
CanuckHeaven
06-04-2006, 23:46
I understand that you asked him and not me...I just thought you'd like you learn about Judaism from a Jew, not a Muslim.

But that would make too much sense for the left, I guess. :rolleyes:
From what I have seen of your posts, it appears that your brand of Judaism, is all about hate, anger, and retribution.

I agree with Jocabia, in that a more "generalized" answer is preferable.
Zolworld
07-04-2006, 00:22
this is unrelated but the thread is about racism and I think this is funny. Yesterday I saw a black guy walking down the street, using monkey noises to sing jingle bells. great way to dispel racial stereotypes.
Asbena
07-04-2006, 00:27
this is unrelated but the thread is about racism and I think this is funny. Yesterday I saw a black guy walking down the street, using monkey noises to sing jingle bells. great way to dispel racial stereotypes.

O.o I see it alot too....and I've seen people (who were african american) cut in line and steal food (everyday), sound like screeching parrots and scream "Penis" "Vagina" and "G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-Unit" and then proceed to whoop and jump on the desks and dance....

Also it should be noted that the same five people also got a 2 gallon container of salad dressing and poured it on this girl saying its their seed after she insulted them. >.>

Is it just me or is this becoming more common?
JuNii
07-04-2006, 00:37
Your Results:
You need to be more racially aware.
You need to go read a book. You are so racially unaware. You are blinded by diversity and need help.
First time I am glad to be called clueless.
The Atlantian islands
07-04-2006, 00:43
From what I have seen of your posts, it appears that your brand of Judaism, is all about hate, anger, and retribution.

I agree with Jocabia, in that a more "generalized" answer is preferable.

Well...I'm just gonna say...I'm not the only one who follows "my brand of Judaism"....I think I have said this before, but I was at a dinner about 2 months ago where Former New York Mayor Koch...a democrat...gave a speech speaking out against the dangers of Islam and its threats....you knows, the stuff I usually say that you guys call bullshit.....anyway he got some pretty loud applause....and most of the people, if not all of the people in here were Jewish....and generally prettydamn liberal....

So all I'm saying is when you call the shit I say..."my brand of Judaism"...your wrong.

You may be totally agains the stuff I say, and I'm totally cool with that, I'm just letting you know that there are LOTS more that think the way I do, and follow "my brand of Judaism".
The Atlantian islands
07-04-2006, 00:53
O.o I see it alot too....and I've seen people (who were african american) cut in line and steal food (everyday), sound like screeching parrots and scream "Penis" "Vagina" and "G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-Unit" and then proceed to whoop and jump on the desks and dance....

Also it should be noted that the same five people also got a 2 gallon container of salad dressing and poured it on this girl saying its their seed after she insulted them. >.>

Is it just me or is this becoming more common?

Where do you live?
Keruvalia
07-04-2006, 01:35
Former New York Mayor Koch

Yeah ... and unfortunately, by your definition of "Jew", he's not a Jew.

So if you want to use him as a source, rock on with ya bad self.

Give up, kid. Seriously.
CanuckHeaven
07-04-2006, 01:58
Well...I'm just gonna say...I'm not the only one who follows "my brand of Judaism"....I think I have said this before, but I was at a dinner about 2 months ago where Former New York Mayor Koch...a democrat...gave a speech speaking out against the dangers of Islam and its threats....you knows, the stuff I usually say that you guys call bullshit.....anyway he got some pretty loud applause....and most of the people, if not all of the people in here were Jewish....and generally prettydamn liberal....

So all I'm saying is when you call the shit I say..."my brand of Judaism"...your wrong.

You may be totally agains the stuff I say, and I'm totally cool with that, I'm just letting you know that there are LOTS more that think the way I do, and follow "my brand of Judaism".
I harken back to what I stated earlier. You want everyone to be all humble and respectful of the "Holocaust", as I have always been, and yet here you are telling me about the many who "follow" your "brand of Judaism", which is filled with hate, discrimination, racism, and anger. If that is the case, what makes your brand of "religion" more special than anyone elses'?

In all honesty, I think that you are the extremist here and I prefer to think that the majority of Jews want peace, and not your "brand" of death and destruction fueled by your hate and anger.

I think that you are doing the peaceful practioners of Judaism a huge dis-service with posts and threads such as this.
Laerod
07-04-2006, 09:47
What I find amusing is how bad the spelling is. I'm glad to see people continuing the stereotype that Aryans are stupid. Keeps people from taking them seriously.Some master race, huh? :p
Big Jim P
07-04-2006, 09:51
Meh. Racism is a waste of time. I hate everybody because they are human. The rest is just details.
Vittos Ordination2
07-04-2006, 10:48
I don't care what the end result is, the quiz itself is offensive.
The Atlantian islands
07-04-2006, 12:17
Yeah ... and unfortunately, by your definition of "Jew", he's not a Jew.

So if you want to use him as a source, rock on with ya bad self.

Give up, kid. Seriously.

Ok, well I didnt see that he was atheist or converted....but even so...it doesnt change a thing.

The huge number of people that he was preaching too didnt exactly hide their applause.
Keruvalia
07-04-2006, 12:26
Ok, well I didnt see that he was atheist or converted....but even so...it doesnt change a thing.

By your definition of Jew, *you* are not a Jew. Go eat another ham sandwich and be productive on the sabbath, goy.

Of course any Jew who rails against other people is perfect in your eyes. Anyone who doesn't grasp the concept of diversity, you'll love. You've already shown in these forums that you hate blacks and asians and arabs.

Never mind that there are plenty of black, asian, and arab Jews.

Newsflash: bullets are cheaper than internet service ... put one through your head today.

Stop pretending to be Jewish. It belittles us all.
Swilatia
07-04-2006, 12:43
It said I was very racist. However a short quiz can never be accurate.
The Atlantian islands
07-04-2006, 19:45
By your definition of Jew, *you* are not a Jew. Go eat another ham sandwich and be productive on the sabbath, goy.

Of course any Jew who rails against other people is perfect in your eyes. Anyone who doesn't grasp the concept of diversity, you'll love. You've already shown in these forums that you hate blacks and asians and arabs.

Never mind that there are plenty of black, asian, and arab Jews.

Newsflash: bullets are cheaper than internet service ... put one through your head today.

Stop pretending to be Jewish. It belittles us all.

Eh...I never said I hated Asians, nor did I say I hate blacks....

To all the rest of your dribble...eh..:rolleyes: Dont care....I'm Jewish, your Muslim...yet your trying to tell me how to be Jewish. :rolleyes: :p

NEXT.
The Atlantian islands
07-04-2006, 19:47
Some master race, huh? :p

I've only actually seen a few posts where people REALLY beleive that "aryans" are the "master race", let alone see a person who proclaims these things in real life.
Laerod
07-04-2006, 20:13
I've only actually seen a few posts where people REALLY beleive that "aryans" are the "master race", let alone see a person who proclaims these things in real life.I'm not so lucky. I've seen the Nazi regions we have here.
ShooFlee
24-04-2006, 00:08
For 1.C-You call him a rag head, find the cheesies and throw the money on the counter, telling him to buy deoderant with the change then leave.
I probablly wouldnt actually say it but I would think it because I wouldnt like the fact that he works here but can speak the language....plus I would think telling him to buy deorderant would be really funny.

For 2.C (and then D)- You look around wondering what has the world come to and where are all the white kids?

Then I would do this, only because around where I live, the all black schools are shit and dangerous if your white.

You take your niece out of that school and send her to a private school that is FAR less diverse.

For 3.E-Cry, because you are jewish
While I am Jewish, I wouldnt cry, I would instead, explain to the teacher and the class what happend and inform them that it is important that we Forgive But Never Forget.

For 4.B-No, we are all created equal.

Even though in my mind, its more than that. I think we are equal but different but different. For instance, blacks, in my opinion, tend to be better athletes...and asians smarter..just all that. I dont tend to think any better than another though.


Yeah, you're right, we're all equal, but everybody knows asians are smart, and blacks are better athletes, and, you know, most hispanic people are stupid, most caucasians are [insert trait], most [race] are [trait], and [race] are [trait]. Pfft, that's not racist at all. Not in the least.