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So I watch Cops. Why? Because it's real. If you turn off the cameras, these officers would still be doing that same thing. I like that. Awesome.

Anyway, I'm watchin' Cops. One segment shows a man who got the windows of his car broken out by some gang-bangers and what did he do? Pull out his Glock-9 and start the fireworks? Nope. He chased them down and caught one of them and held that boy pinned to the ground until the cops came.

No guns.

He didn't need it, but he protected his property nonetheless.

Awesome.

So ... why do you need a gun? Why are you such a wuss? :p

Because most of us are much slower than criminals are, and would get pwned by them running.

Reno 911 is more realistic than cops...

Reno 911 is more realistic than cops...
I agree. It doesn't get much better than beating up a Sonic mascot, finding out he likes it, and then watching him get run over by a truck.

Ok, it does, namely the time the 'Homeland Security' agents came to teach about bombs.

Reno 911 is more realistic than cops...

Not to mention a damn sight funnier.

My grandfather was a cop and he blinded a perp by hitting him in the back of the head. Sweet.

I think the guns are for two things:
A) Intimidation (even though we all known 9mm suck)
B) In case the perp has a gun (fight fire with fire)

But I don't think anything can beat brute strength and a billy club...

But I don't think anything can beat brute strength and a billy club...

Damn straight!

i watched a show the other day called Dallas SWAT. it was kind of like cops...

So ... why do you need a gun? Why are you such a wuss? :p
You answered your own question (mighty convenient for me),
Anyway, I'm watchin' Cops. One segment shows a man who got the windows of his car broken out by some gang-bangers and what did he do? Pull out his Glock-9 and start the fireworks? Nope. He chased them down and caught one of them and held that boy pinned to the ground until the cops came.
One, as in singular of plural. If he'd used a gun, he could have caught both (not to mention that tackling a ganster isn't really all that bright. Knives hurt like a bitch, I understand).

So ... why do you need a gun? Why are you such a wuss? :p

Have you ever seen a gangbanger? Chasing down gangmembers is pretty much asking to get shanked, curb stomped, and made someone's bitch.

Chasing down gangbangers like you're the goddamn Batman is the most retarded thing one can do in a situation like that.

Chasing down gangbangers like you're the goddamn Batman is the most retarded thing one can do in a situation like that.

Yet ... this guy did it. And he wasn't some super-hero ... just a middle-aged, working class black man with a beer belly and a sweater his wife obviously bought him some Christmas.

So ... there it is.

Chasing down gangbangers like you're the goddamn Batman is the most retarded thing one can do in a situation like that.
How do you know he wasn't Batman? The two have never been seen together at the same time . . .

Batman would lose a race vs spiderman if he didnt have his batmobile.

Batman would lose a race vs spiderman if he didnt have his batmobile.
So, wait, the gangbanger was Spiderman now? Why would Spiderman want to sabotage the Batmobile like that? When did he go bad?
I think this conversation has started to take a dangerous turn into the surreal.

So, wait, the gangbanger was Spiderman now? Why would Spiderman want to sabotage the Batmobile like that? When did he go bad?
I think this conversation has started to take a dangerous turn into the surreal.

think about it. what do superheros do on opposite day? they become the villains, which means spiderman would sabotage the batmobile...

Yet ... this guy did it. And he wasn't some super-hero ... just a middle-aged, working class black man with a beer belly and a sweater his wife obviously bought him some Christmas.

So ... there it is.

What would have happened if the gangmember had a $10 pocket knife?

What would have happened if the gangmembers had decided to fight the gentleman, instead of running?

Then we'd have one middle class black corpse, and one mourning widow.

There's a reason why law enforcement is left to the trained and equipped police departments of the area. Citizens becoming vigilantes is dangerous for the both citizens and criminals, paticularly if the citizens are unarmed.

I think this conversation has started to take a dangerous turn into the surreal.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/JC_Denton/247ad001.jpg

think about it. what do superheros do on opposite day? they become the villains, which means spiderman would sabotage the batmobile...
And so batman turns into an over weight, middle aged black man? And the batmobile turns into a van?

And so batman turns into an over weight, middle aged black man? And the batmobile turns into a van?

precisely...

And so batman turns into an over weight, middle aged black man? And the batmobile turns into a van?

That movie would be awesome.

And the batmobile turns into a van?

No no no no no!

The Batmobile turns into a BLIMP!

No no no no no!

The Batmobile turns into a BLIMP!

yes! the Batblimp!

No no no no no!

The Batmobile turns into a BLIMP!

I thought Batman turned into a blimp.

Has anyone seen Dog the bounty hunter? If so, please put me out of my misery and tell me it's not serious LOL

So I watch Cops. Why? Because it's real. If you turn off the cameras, these officers would still be doing that same thing. I like that. Awesome.

Anyway, I'm watchin' Cops. One segment shows a man who got the windows of his car broken out by some gang-bangers and what did he do? Pull out his Glock-9 and start the fireworks? Nope. He chased them down and caught one of them and held that boy pinned to the ground until the cops came.

No guns.

He didn't need it, but he protected his property nonetheless.

Awesome.

So ... why do you need a gun? Why are you such a wuss? :p

I saw that! But, the suspect was let off, because the guy couldn't 100% identify him as the person that vandilised the windows.

Guns still have their purpose.

Have you ever seen a gangbanger? Chasing down gangmembers is pretty much asking to get shanked, curb stomped, and made someone's bitch.

Chasing down gangbangers like you're the goddamn Batman is the most retarded thing one can do in a situation like that.
Agreed. You saved me the trouble of saying it. :)

The primary purpose of civilian weapons ownership is not to defend oneself against petty crooks, but against the massive protection racket that is commonly referred to as "the government".

Anyway, I'm watchin' Cops. One segment shows a man who got the windows of his car broken out by some gang-bangers and what did he do? Pull out his Glock-9 and start the fireworks? Nope. He chased them down and caught one of them and held that boy pinned to the ground until the cops came.

No guns.

He didn't need it, but he protected his property nonetheless.

Awesome.

So ... why do you need a gun? Why are you such a wuss? :p
He should have done that even if he had a gun. Anyone who opens fire as a first resort should not own a gun.

And so batman turns into an over weight, middle aged black man? And the batmobile turns into a van?
Batman is Mr.T?!

My favourite one involved some Mexicans under a bridge on the Heroin.
The Cop asked the Mexican do you have anything in your pocket?
Reply was no.
Cop puts hand in said pocket.
hello Needle to the finger!
Ha Ah ha ha!

Cop
I hope you don't have the AIDS.
Translation
Once the Camera crew goes i'll beat you.:p

So I watch Cops. Why? Because it's real. If you turn off the cameras, these officers would still be doing that same thing. I like that. Awesome.

Anyway, I'm watchin' Cops. One segment shows a man who got the windows of his car broken out by some gang-bangers and what did he do? Pull out his Glock-9 and start the fireworks? Nope. He chased them down and caught one of them and held that boy pinned to the ground until the cops came.

No guns.

He didn't need it, but he protected his property nonetheless.

Awesome.

So ... why do you need a gun? Why are you such a wuss? :p


If you give me a good reason to take you out ( not you in the personal sense ), I guess I want to exercise my right to be as cruel as I can.

Furthermore, I might want to follow the advice of Shaka Zulu: Never suffer an enemy to live.

Also, I may have no desire to be called a girly-man by the Gubernator.

Sure, I could use a non-lethal way to protect myself or my property, but that merely protects me for this specific incident. Non-lethal ways have the shortcoming that they don't adress the problem that I have with my enemy ( enemy as in: someone who wants what I got ) in an utterly final way.

A non-lethal means does not allow me to claim: mission accomplished.

A nation that distinguishes between fighters and thinkers will soon have its fighting done by fools, and its thinking by cowards.

Why would you shoot someone for breaking your property? Use deadly force only if you are in fear of your own or someone else life, not because they smash up your car.

Why would you shoot someone for breaking your property? Use deadly force only if you are in fear of your own or someone else life, not because they smash up your car.

Property is life.

Let's say I make $10/hour. Furthermore, let's say I have a couch that cost me $100. If someone comes in and steals my couch, or simply destroys it, then that is ten hours of my life that have been irretrivably, with nothing to show for them. It is as if those ten hours had not even happened. It is morally equivalent to him killing me ten hours before I would otherwise have died.

Property is life.

Let's say I make $10/hour. Furthermore, let's say I have a couch that cost me $100. If someone comes in and steals my couch, or simply destroys it, then that is ten hours of my life that have been irretrivably, with nothing to show for them. It is as if those ten hours had not even happened. It is morally equivalent to him killing me ten hours before I would otherwise have died.
Damn, talk about a fucked up world-view. With your reasoning property superceeds the right to life.

Damn, talk about a fucked up world-view. With your reasoning property superceeds the right to life.

A murderer has no right to life. He relinquished it when he committed his act.

And since theft is, as I have just demonstrated, morally equivalent to murder, a thief, too, has relinquished his moral right to life.

One's right to property does not supersede one's right to life. One's life to property IS one's right to his own life, and one who attempts to violate another's right to his life forfeits his right to his own life.

A murderer has no right to life. He relinquished it when he committed his act.

And since theft is, as I have just demonstrated, morally equivalent to murder, a thief, too, has relinquished his moral right to life.

One's right to property does not supersede one's right to life. One's life to property IS one's right to his own life, and one who attempts to violate another's right to his life forfeits his right to his own life.
I don't agree with any of your assumptions. But if you want to believe that way, meh.

Anyway, I'm watchin' Cops. One segment shows a man who got the windows of his car broken out by some gang-bangers and what did he do? Pull out his Glock-9 and start the fireworks? Nope. He chased them down and caught one of them and held that boy pinned to the ground until the cops came.
They gang-banged someone in his car and broke the windows during this? My, they really shouldn't be that wild! :D

My grandfather was a cop and he blinded a perp by hitting him in the back of the head. Sweet.

I think the guns are for two things:
A) Intimidation (even though we all known 9mm suck)
B) In case the perp has a gun (fight fire with fire)

But I don't think anything can beat brute strength and a billy club...
A) If you want intimidation, use a 10 gauge shotgun :D
B) Same here. Can't have someone outgunning you! :D

And since theft is, as I have just demonstrated, morally equivalent to murder, a thief, too, has relinquished his moral right to life.

No, you have not. You have demonstrated that you are showing a warning sign of being a sociopath.