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Wow...I was surfing the channels. Okay, so I turn on Nickelodians "Kid's Choice Awards," or whatever the hell it's called. I stop for a second and, lol and behold, you wanna know what the entertainment for that show is? Basically some idiot yelling "I don't want to be a stupid girl!" with some co-dancers who look like strippers. I am officially pissed. I am not for censorship, (hell, one of my cousins used to make commercials for Nickelodian products) but that's wrong. They showed clips of the audience. Half of them looked up 6. My God, don't these idiots have any common decency?

Maybe it was a song about the importance of a good education. :)

Bah! Who needs decency?

You should have been watching Castle in the sky on CN anyway.

It all harkens back to "Nipplegate" at the Superbowl a few years back. CBS thought the incident created the wrong environment in which to peddle viagra and beer.

its eye candy for the older kids amongst us forced to watch because the 6 year old cried to mummy and daddy until they got exclusive TV rights during the whole affair.

My good God. One of the award presenters was fucking wearing a Nazi symbol. This is an outrage.

That channel is horrible! Fucking facists.

Thankfully, the Kid's Choice awards are never remembered because the kids who vote are ashamed of their young tastes in pop music within three years.

Wow...I was surfing the channels. Okay, so I turn on Nickelodians "Kid's Choice Awards," or whatever the hell it's called. I stop for a second and, lol and behold, you wanna know what the entertainment for that show is? Basically some idiot yelling "I don't want to be a stupid girl!" with some co-dancers who look like strippers. I am officially pissed. I am not for censorship, (hell, one of my cousins used to make commercials for Nickelodian products) but that's wrong. They showed clips of the audience. Half of them looked up 6. My God, don't these idiots have any common decency?
You obviously missed the one where Britney Spears performed.

Wow...I was surfing the channels. Okay, so I turn on Nickelodians "Kid's Choice Awards," or whatever the hell it's called. I stop for a second and, lol and behold, you wanna know what the entertainment for that show is? Basically some idiot yelling "I don't want to be a stupid girl!" with some co-dancers who look like strippers. I am officially pissed. I am not for censorship, (hell, one of my cousins used to make commercials for Nickelodian products) but that's wrong. They showed clips of the audience. Half of them looked up 6. My God, don't these idiots have any common decency?
Welcome to the hell we call "The Information Age"

Information Age....hah, its like an oxymoron these days.

What's the big deal? Not so very long ago, those kids you're so worried about now would have spent 10-12 hours a day making shoes or sewing shirts or doing some other manner of labor for little more than the food they ate. You're bitching because they might see something they probably see every day anyway. Get a little persepctive, why don't you?

What's the big deal? Not so very long ago, those kids you're so worried about now would have spent 10-12 hours a day making shoes or sewing shirts or doing some other manner of labor for little more than the food they ate. You're bitching because they might see something they probably see every day anyway. Get a little persepctive, why don't you?
Agreed. If you think TV is bad, go to a public school.

Maybe it was a song about the importance of a good education. :)

Actually your right. That song is supposed to be against being a "stupid girl". The dancers are supposed to be demonstrative of what a stupid girl looks and acts like. Not sure its effective though. Song-wise I think its fairly poor.

My good God. One of the award presenters was fucking wearing a Nazi symbol. This is an outrage.

Which one? And which symbol? And are there pictures?


Anyways, barring the nazi thing, I agree with other sensible voices here: kids are going to see things that you may deem offensive, no matter how much you control their TV or whatever. They (we all, really) live in what is most likely the best time to be alive in the history of humanity. So stop complaining about what's on TV, and perhaps go focus your energies on something with real impact, like maybe sweatshop labor.

Actually your right. That song is supposed to be against being a "stupid girl". The dancers are supposed to be demonstrative of what a stupid girl looks and acts like. Not sure its effective though. Song-wise I think its fairly poor.
If you want your kids to hear a song with a message, force them to listen to Rage Against the Machine.

What's the big deal? Not so very long ago, those kids you're so worried about now would have spent 10-12 hours a day making shoes or sewing shirts or doing some other manner of labor for little more than the food they ate.
What does that have to do with this?

Not that I’m offending by Nickelodeon. It didn’t go far enough. Those chicks should have been naked, and at the end of the song the singer should have turned around and blown one of their heads off with a shotgun while ninjas dropped from the rafters and snapped the necks of the others. Immediately following, the ninjas would have simultaneously thrown ninja death stars at the singer right before drawing katanas and committing seppuku. Then a group of cannibals could come out and clean up.

Anyways, barring the nazi thing
Kids aren't going to see Nazi images? Public education really does suck.
and perhaps go focus your energies on something with real impact, like maybe sweatshop labor.
What? Why? Sweat shop labor mantains my standard of living.

Kids aren't going to see Nazi images? Public education really does suck.

What? Why? Sweat shop labor mantains my standard of living.

Point well made.
About the sweatshop thing: someone who's bothered by kids seeing half-naked girls should probably be a lot more offended by kids working 12 hour days sewing clothes for almost no pay with slavedriver-like bosses and terrible conditions. Just sayin'.

Point well made.
About the sweatshop thing: someone who's bothered by kids seeing half-naked girls should probably be a lot more offended by kids working 12 hour days sewing clothes for almost no pay with slavedriver-like bosses and terrible conditions. Just sayin'.
I am offended by that. I've posted about that in other threads. I'm not offended by the half naked women per se. I'm offended that that's a show that they advertise to 6 year olds. Oh, and I'm really pissed off about the Nazi symbol.

Who cares? What damage is being done? Europe is even more laid-back about partial nudity on daytime TV, and I don't see a massive moral crisis.

Who cares? What damage is being done? Europe is even more laid-back about partial nudity on daytime TV, and I don't see a massive moral crisis.
One of the guys was wearing a freaking Nazi symbol. I could serously care less about the nudity, but that...

One of the guys was wearing a freaking Nazi symbol. I could serously care less about the nudity, but that...
So what? Sure, I enforce the 'no Nazi symbols' rules on this site because I have to, but on a personal level, I don't care.

So what? Sure, I enforce the 'no Nazi symbols' rules on this site because I have to, but on a personal level, I don't care.
It's a kid's program. That's why I care.

One of the guys was wearing a freaking Nazi symbol.
What, who, where, when and why?

Wish I had Nikelodeon, I wanna see semi naked strippers. Also, anyone ever see that kids show hi 5? The female presenters there are hawt.
http://hi5.ninemsn.com.au/img/gang/whole_gang_new.jpg

What, who, where, when and why?
One of the guys who was presenting an award to Chris Rock was wearing one on his shirt. The Iron Cross, as in the one Nazi Officers wore.

Won't anyone think of the children?!

What a load of bollocks.

It's a kid's program. That's why I care.
Yup, now all those kids are gonna grow up to be nazis. Because little kids know enough to realise it's a nazi sign and are stupid enough to want to be a nazi just because someone on tv is.

Won't anyone think of the children?!

What a load of bollocks.Again, I repeat: I DO NOT CARE THAT THEY HAD SEMI-NUDE GIRLS ON SCREEN. I CARE THAT ONE OF THE PRESENTERS WAS WEAING A NAZI SYMBOL.

One of the guys who was presenting an award to Chris Rock was wearing one on his shirt. The Iron Cross, as in the one Nazi Officers wore.
:rolleyes: Jeez. I thought it was a swastika or SS runes. That's weak.

One of the guys who was presenting an award to Chris Rock was wearing one on his shirt. The Iron Cross, as in the one Nazi Officers wore.
???!?!?
Surely that is not what you just said.

a) The Iron Cross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_cross) has nothing to do with the Nazis. Indeed, it was the symbol of something the Nazis detested and fought.

b) There are a good number of fashion brands that use modified versions of the iron cross. "Independent Truck Company (http://www.independenttrucks.com/)" for example.

What, who, where, when and why?
More importantly: how?

Yup, now all those kids are gonna grow up to be nazis. Because little kids know enough to realise it's a nazi sign and are stupid enough to want to be a nazi just because someone on tv is.
Oh, c'mon. The people there could have made the guy change before he went onstage. That's just bad taste.

Yup, now all those kids are gonna grow up to be nazis. Because little kids know enough to realise it's a nazi sign and are stupid enough to want to be a nazi just because someone on tv is.
Oh, c'mon. The people there could have made the guy change before he went onstage. That's just bad taste.

One of the guys who was presenting an award to Chris Rock was wearing one on his shirt. The Iron Cross, as in the one Nazi Officers wore.


Bah. That one was the basically the same design as one of my great-great-grandfathers wore in WWI. As a good German Jew - awarded for bravery at Tannenberg. So I guess wearing that made hime a good German Nazi Jew?

Lighten up, dude.

Moral crusading is a thing for illiterate freaks with attitudes best left in a desert - ya know, like the folks who did 911.

b) There are a good number of fashion brands that use modified versions of the iron cross. "Independent Truck Company (http://www.independenttrucks.com/)" for example.
Variations were also used by the German Army and Air Force during WW1, and I just found one example on a Christian t-shirt quoting scripture, for sale online. :p

You know, I am probably wrong. Though to those who think that Nazi's didn't wear the iron cross, you're wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_decorations_of_the_Third_Reich

You know, I am probably wrong. Though to those who think that Nazi's didn't wear the iron cross, you're wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_decorations_of_the_Third_Reich


The thing is not that Nazis wore 'em, the thing is they weren't the only ones.

Variations were also used by the German Army and Air Force during WW1...
And today.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Bundeswehr_Logo.svg/280px-Bundeswehr_Logo.svg.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Luftwaffe_logo.jpg

You know, I am probably wrong. Though to those who think that Nazi's didn't wear the iron cross, you're wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_decorations_of_the_Third_Reich
The Hitler Jugend was like a boyscout organization. Should we ban those too.

You know, I am probably wrong. Though to those who think that Nazi's didn't wear the iron cross, you're wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_decorations_of_the_Third_Reich
Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Cross

OMG WTF the medal pre-dates the unification of Germany.

Also: http://www.themustard.com/hot_trends/maltese.htm <--- Aww

Oh, c'mon. The people there could have made the guy change before he went onstage. That's just bad taste.
1.The kids most likely don't even know what a nazi is.
2.Has it occured to you that it could just be a cross that looks similar to the iron cross?
3.Even if it was an Iron cross, and even if the guy was a nazi, what difference does it make? Those kids don't really care.

You know, I am probably wrong. Though to those who think that Nazi's didn't wear the iron cross, you're wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_decorations_of_the_Third_Reich
Of course they wore them (ie people from the military, who may or may not have been Nazis, the NSDAP had its own different symbols and medals). But they were trying to destroy its meaning.

The Iron Cross is a traditionally Prussian thing. It's associated with Prussian militarism, with the soldierly aristocracy. And that was what Hitler was fighting to the very end - he didn't want Prussian soldiers with their strict moral codex, he wanted Nazis who believed in his racial utopia and would do anything for it.

its eye candy for the older kids amongst us forced to watch because the 6 year old cried to mummy and daddy until they got exclusive TV rights during the whole affair.

Why don't you rea a book or something?

Wish I had Nikelodeon, I wanna see semi naked strippers. Also, anyone ever see that kids show hi 5? The female presenters there are hawt.
http://hi5.ninemsn.com.au/img/gang/whole_gang_new.jpg
Yea agreed, deinatly.

Wow...I was surfing the channels. Okay, so I turn on Nickelodians "Kid's Choice Awards," or whatever the hell it's called. I stop for a second and, lol and behold, you wanna know what the entertainment for that show is? Basically some idiot yelling "I don't want to be a stupid girl!" with some co-dancers who look like strippers. I am officially pissed. I am not for censorship, (hell, one of my cousins used to make commercials for Nickelodian products) but that's wrong. They showed clips of the audience. Half of them looked up 6. My God, don't these idiots have any common decency?

Oh, the ignorance. Are you referring to the song "Stupid Girl" by Pink? If you had actually bothered to know anything about what you are talking, you would have known that that song mocks Britney and Christina and Jessica and all those others, and tells girls to not become the semi-naked idiots these other performers are. Have you seen the video to the song? You should. And then shut your yap.

Come on, this is just silly. Do you think children are going to become nazi strippers because they saw it on television? If so, we need smarter children, not censored television. Show me one 8 year old nazi stripping girl, just one if you think that show is such a bad influence.

Oh, the ignorance. Are you referring to the song "Stupid Girl" by Pink? If you had actually bothered to know anything about what you are talking, you would have known that that song mocks Britney and Christina and Jessica and all those others, and tells girls to not become the semi-naked idiots these other performers are. Have you seen the video to the song? You should. And then shut your yap.
Oh...I don't generally care about songs that hurt my ears like that...

Come on, this is just silly. Do you think children are going to become nazi strippers because they saw it on television? If so, we need smarter children, not censored television. Show me one 8 year old nazi stripping girl, just one if you think that show is such a bad influence.
Who tipped you off to my nightclub?

If you want your kids to hear a song with a message, force them to listen to Rage Against the Machine.
I would be for that

One of the guys who was presenting an award to Chris Rock was wearing one on his shirt. The Iron Cross, as in the one Nazi Officers wore.
How can you tell ... for the love of god there is almost that same symbol used for everywhere from national awards of honor to the malatise (sp?) that is used by christians

For the love of god I can see if it was a swastica or something that at LEAST dident have like a frigging thousand different groups using it

Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Cross

OMG WTF the medal pre-dates the unification of Germany.

Also: http://www.themustard.com/hot_trends/maltese.htm <--- Aww
Thank you

How the hell could she/he tell what incarnation if that same damn shape it was.