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I'm just curious as to whether the game has lost its fanbase or what. Seeing as how I am trying to establish a Magic themed region. Plz reply ^_^

I played for years. From Mirage Right up though the Odyssey set but after that it kinda became lackluster to me.
But for old times sake I'd love to join a community

That's awesome. I'm a fairly new NationStates player, but I'll do my best to find more people =D

I still play every once in a while. I don't like the new cards though. I played fifth edition through the urza saga.

Saga is one of the better exspansions ever

Yup MtG fan right here.

I still play every once in a while. I don't like the new cards though. I played fifth edition through the urza saga.
I played fallen empires - 8th.

I played fallen empires - 8th.
Fallen Empires :: cringes::
You know last I checked they were giving away those boosters.

Haha. I started around Darksteel and I play to right now so, meh. I'm a nubby

I still play every once in a while. I don't like the new cards though. I played fifth edition through the urza saga.

Basically the exact situation I was in, although I started with the Fourth edition.

I didn't like that they kept adding new rules and features to the cards. One or two variations (I liked Flanking, for one) were ok, but it seemed like they were throwing in all these new abilities just because they could. It really ruined the game, at least for me.

Fallen Empires :: cringes::
You know last I checked they were giving away those boosters.
Fallen empires pwn nubs. lol. I just like the cards for the amazing storyline. My decks are mainly mercadian masques-apocalypse. I will post my primary deck on this thread later, but its 1:40 and I am too tired to do that right now.

Basically the exact situation I was in, although I started with the Fourth edition.

I didn't like that they kept adding new rules and features to the cards. One or two variations (I liked Flanking, for one) were ok, but it seemed like they were throwing in all these new abilities just because they could. It really ruined the game, at least for me.
Same. Once mirrodan came out, it seemed like everyone started making cookie-cutter affinity decks they found online. I stopped going to Friday Night Magic after Dark Steel.

The most pointless addition ever was banding...It doesn't need banding to "combo block".
Cycling however was greeat in sped/counter spell blue decks.

Same. Once mirrodan came out, it seemed like everyone started making cookie-cutter affinity decks they found online. I stopped going to Friday Night Magic after Dark Steel.

Dude, I HATED Affinity. That almost ruined it for me but I stuck it out and since then, there hasn't really been an allmighty net deck. I just hope it stays that way.

The most pointless addition ever was banding...It doesn't need banding to "combo block".
Cycling however was greeat in sped/counter spell blue decks.

Banding was around since the beginning, so it wasn't an addition.

Cycling was a little annoying, but I could deal with it.

But seriously, they went to far. I knew things were going downhill once they started adding things like Shadow, Phasing, and Buyback.

Sad, really...

Dude, I HATED Affinity. That almost ruined it for me but I stuck it out and since then, there hasn't really been an allmighty net deck. I just hope it stays that way.
Whats that new series they are coming out with that is supposed to bring back the Ice Age feel? Also I hate what they did to the cards starting with 8th. The first thought that entered my head when I opened up my first 8th edition pack was "this better be temporary"

A lot of those uber complicated techs died with their blocks. The only techs I've seen transfer over are equipments. Most other stuff just can't keep up and retain it's usefullness

They're already up to 8th edition?!? :eek:

It has been a while since I played.

Banding was around since the beginning, so it wasn't an addition.

Cycling was a little annoying, but I could deal with it.

But seriously, they went to far. I knew things were going downhill once they started adding things like Shadow, Phasing, and Buyback.

Sad, really...
Shadow was annoying, phasing I didnt mind, and buyback was retarted. Its gotten way out of hand these days. They add so many new powers a set I folded. Havent boughten a pack since mirrodan.

They're already up to 8th edition?!? :eek:

It has been a while since I played.
9th was also released, and I am not sure about 10th.

I apologize for sayign "addittion" But is was an understood ability if you had any grasp of the rules.

Whats that new series they are coming out with that is supposed to bring back the Ice Age feel? Also I hate what they did to the cards starting with 8th. The first thought that entered my head when I opened up my first 8th edition pack was "this better be temporary"

I hate the "editions" sets because they print the cards with a white border. ::Shudders:: So horrible. >.< But yeah. The art seems to be improving through the sets though. The Kamigawa art awe awesome. They are also releasing a Standard legal Third set to Ice Age in June I think. Called Cold Snap.

A lot of those uber complicated techs died with their blocks. The only techs I've seen transfer over are equipments. Most other stuff just can't keep up and retain it's usefullness
Equipment is basically the same as enchant creature, just stays on the field once the creature is sacked. Pretty silly to me.

Shadow was annoying, phasing I didnt mind, and buyback was retarted. Its gotten way out of hand these days. They add so many new powers a set I folded. Havent boughten a pack since mirrodan.

To me, the whole idea of adding all those abilities was to cater to the collector, not the player.

The problem is, all to often the player is just a casual gamer, who just wants to have fun. That is the person who the game should be geared towards. Collectors only care about complete sets, card conditions and price lists.

Sure, you can be a player AND a collector, but nobody who actually liked the game would have ruined it by adding new rules noone liked.

When you gear a game to collectors, you run the risk of alienating the casual gamer, which Magic accomplished fantastically, as far as I can tell.

I hate the "editions" sets because they print the cards with a white border. ::Shudders:: So horrible. >.< But yeah. The art seems to be improving through the sets though. The Kamigawa art awe awesome. They are also releasing a Standard legal Third set to Ice Age in June I think. Called Cold Snap.
Yah thats what is called. I usually only get magic news now-adays from www.phyrexia.com. Great forums, I mainly hang out on the 6th sphere because I am a storyline kinda guy.

What was the most broken card in your opinion?

Masticore has my vote

9th was also released, and I am not sure about 10th.Coming out soon. But right now, they have the Ravnica (and you start to wonder where the OP got his name :D) block out right now. Very multicolor. The final expansion is coming out in may, and they'll be bringing out what was meant to be an Ice Age expansion (well, it is an Ice Age expansion) called Coldsnap out afterwards.

Casual Gamer right here. ^_^

To me, the whole idea of adding all those abilities was to cater to the collector, not the player.

The problem is, all to often the player is just a casual gamer, who just wants to have fun. That is the person who the game should be geared towards. Collectors only care about complete sets, card conditions and price lists.

Sure, you can be a player AND a collector, but nobody who actually liked the game would have ruined it by adding new rules noone liked.

When you gear a game to collectors, you run the risk of alienating the casual gamer, which Magic accomplished fantastically, as far as I can tell.
Yes, they did that extremely well. Luckily my friend did a good job of teaching it to me otherwise I would have never attempted it.

Coming out soon. But right now, they have the Ravnica (and you start to wonder where the OP got his name :D) block out right now. Very multicolor. The final expansion is coming out in may, and they'll be bringing out what was meant to be an Ice Age expansion (well, it is an Ice Age expansion) called Coldsnap out afterwards.

Yeah, lol, I'm guilty. But the correct spelling was taken haha. Oh well. The third set is going to be called Dissention. How's the weather in Germany? =P

Yah thats what is called. I usually only get magic news now-adays from www.phyrexia.com. Great forums, I mainly hang out on the 6th sphere because I am a storyline kinda guy.

When Urza gathered all the planeswalkers in I believe it was Planeshift what was the big cat's name? He was on the Planeswalker's Fury card.

What was the most broken card in your opinion?

Masticore has my vote
Masticore was a beauty in its time. Finkle had a few in his deck. I just googled it now to see what you meant by broken and my heart is filled with grief to see it was carried into darksteele.

Yeah, lol, I'm guilty. But the correct spelling was taken haha. Oh well. The third set is going to be called Dissention. How's the weather in Germany? =PThanks for asking. It just started raining again.

I've been an extremely casual player and didn't have a deck of my own. Usually played in a group of friends. I'm fascinated by the guild concept they have in Ravnica though, and I only really started buying cards now.

Masticore was a beauty in its time. Finkle had a few in his deck. I just googled it now to see what you meant by broken and my heart is filled with grief to see it was carried into darksteele.

Yeah, Arcbound Ravager was...evil

Masticore was a beauty in its time. Finkle had a few in his deck. I just googled it now to see what you meant by broken and my heart is filled with grief to see it was carried into darksteele.

Masticore was reprinted? Is that what you're telling me?!?!:(

When Urza gathered all the planeswalkers in I believe it was Planeshift what was the big cat's name? He was on the Planeswalker's Fury card.
That would be lord windgrace.

Masticore was reprinted? Is that what you're telling me?!?!:(

Yes...>.<

If you are interested in Planeshift, I definatley recommend you read Invasion-Apocalypse books.

That would be lord windgrace.

Thanks alot. you have no idea how friggin long that has bugged me and I lost all my books.

And I am ready burn the Wizards HQ to the ground for reprinting Masticore

If you are interested in Planeshift, I definatley recommend you read Invasion-Apocalypse books.
Read 'em all. That one character has always stuck out to me. He and Planeswalker Karn.

I must go to shleep. Goodnight everyone and thanks for the Chat. Talk to you all tomorrow. ^_^

Thanks alot. you have no idea how friggin long that has bugged me and I lost all my books.

And I am ready burn the Wizards HQ to the ground for reprinting Masticore
If you have a question about the storylines (obviously pre-mirrodan, and *shudders the Otaria bloc*) then feel free to Telegram me and I will be happy to answer.

I must go to shleep. Goodnight everyone and thanks for the Chat. Talk to you all tomorrow. ^_^
Same, its 1am here and I have school bright n early :( .

Same, its 1am here and I have school bright n early :( .

Yeah, school sucks. >.<

Same, its 1am here and I have school bright n early :( .
Ditto

BTW, how do I search a paticular person or Nation State?

BTW, how do I search a paticular person or Nation State?
Well, you could just click there name if you see them in the forum otherwise you go to The World from www.nationstates.net and under find nation, enter their name.

DittoAw, sucks to be all of you. I'm at work already. I feel soo sorry for you guys :p

Thanks. and when are we getting this MTG Region together?

Thanks. and when are we getting this MTG Region together?
If you do telegram me.

Aw, sucks to be all of you. I'm at work already. I feel soo sorry for you guys :p
Yah, I think I average 6 hours of sleep per night. :(

Yah, I think I average 6 hours of sleep per night. :(I wish I got that much sleep. Time switching has been bugging me and I've been down to about 4 or 5 if I get lucky and if I don't stay up all night writing papers for university.

But back to the topic:
Do any of you piddle around with making your own cards?

I wish I got that much sleep. Time switching has been bugging me and I've been down to about 4 or 5 if I get lucky and if I don't stay up all night writing papers for university.

But back to the topic:
Do any of you piddle around with making your own cards?
Magic Workstation is awesome:p , so yah.

Magic Workstation is awesome:p , so yah.I piddle around with the Magic Set Editor. Does the Magic Workstation allow for the new hybrid cards?

What's this Magic Workstation? Is it like the new way to make a proxy?

Back in the day we used a crappy card and a sharpie

I piddle around with the Magic Set Editor. Does the Magic Workstation allow for the new hybrid cards?
It is constantly updated, so I think new cardfaces have come out.

What's this Magic Workstation? Is it like the new way to make a proxy?

Back in the day we used a crappy card and a sharpie
Basically, it has the complete list of cards, so you can mess around with making new decks. You can also create cards, and play vs opponents via direct IP connection or an Online feature.

Is it freeware?

Is it freeware?The Magic Set Editor is. The second version is in Beta phase right now.

I have two current decks that I am proud of.

A white angel/heal deck that took me years to build, with lots of trades involved.

The second one is a blue counter deck that works very fast.

Back in the day I did, and I still remember the rules; I had a bit of a falling out with the game after the release of Onslaught block and totally lost interest after Mirrodin.

I remember the glory days of Tempest-Urza, Urza-Masques and Masques-Invasion...although my above all favorite block has to be Mirage.

Back in the day I did, and I still remember the rules; I had a bit of a falling out with the game after the release of Onslaught block and totally lost interest after Mirrodin.

I remember the glory days of Tempest-Urza, Urza-Masques and Masques-Invasion...although my above all favorite block has to be Mirage.

Amen to that however I think Saga was a bit better

Amen to that however I think Saga was a bit better

Saga was insane; I remember the first days of it's release before they banned Tolarian Academy and the others in Type II Constructed...even afterwards it was still very powerful and well-balanced. Definitely some of the best and most creative times in the game.

And for those of you wondering: Yes, I had a Counter-Rebel deck, and it was good. I feel almost ashamed for building it...however, the Rishadan ports and Lin Sivvis fetched a nice trade or two after I dismantled it.

Gaia's Cradle in the Type II Elf decks with the Priest of Titania......beauty

I played from about Tempest through to the end of the Mercadian cycle. I still have a Type II* deck!

*Type II circa 1999 :rolleyes:

Saga was insane; I remember the first days of it's release before they banned Tolarian Academy and the others in Type II Constructed...even afterwards it was still very powerful and well-balanced. Definitely some of the best and most creative times in the game.

And for those of you wondering: Yes, I had a Counter-Rebel deck, and it was good. I feel almost ashamed for building it...however, the Rishadan ports and Lin Sivvis fetched a nice trade or two after I dismantled it.

The Counter-Rebel was probably the second most annoying combo deck ever next to the Voltaic Key, Mishra's Helix, and I believe it was the Carnevorous Dragon, it came in 2nd in worlds in 98 I think or 99

I played from Unlimited to Alliance.
I stopped when it became too commercial and when they added inane abilities and banned things like banding for no good reason other that "it's too complicated to understand".

Back in those days, there wasn't a card saying "you win the game" or "you cannot die unless..." (well, except for Ali from Cairo, but he was a creature).

Back in those days, you still used creature in your deck. Now it's all combos and the best deck have no creatures whatsoever.

Ah, I still remember the glory days of Kobolds! Back then, a Serra Angel was a good creature. We had mox and double-land and icy manipulators (and not the puny art-awful one of ice age, but the 25$ unlimited one.)

Those were the days when you were lucky to have two expansion in the same year and not one every month.

For those who are wondering, the region I made is called the Nations of the Guildpact

I always thought the sliver decks were annoying as hell. One of my friends managed to build a green elf deck that was amazingly fast. By then end of the second turn he would have about 8 elfs out in play, it was unreal.

The only problem I have with my white angel/heal deck is I can never seem to get enough mana out to bring on the good creatures, I always get railed because the mana likes to settle into the middle of the deck.

No Magic, but Pokemon is what's going on!

Just kidding!

I used to be a semi-serious player, but I never went through with my plan of making a rainbow walls desk with Rolling Stones x 4... :p

This thread fills me with nostalgia...

This thread fills me with nostalgia...

Me too...:)

Although it also fills me with a sense of bewilderment and self-loathing...I can't fathom how much money I might have spent on booster packs. :eek:

Back in those days, you still used creature in your deck. Now it's all combos and the best deck have no creatures whatsoever.

I'm not sure how recently you've checked top decks, but PT Honolulu was won with Heezy street which is similar to Zoo, which also did quite well. So to say the combo decks are pwning all in the tourney scene isn't quite accurate. Though if you were refering to Affinity, dragon/good, or a few of the other fairly recently successful archtypes, then yeh combos have done well for themselves.

Anyways, i still play, though i didn't like much of kamigawa, except the art. Rav block is pretty interesting though. I only started playing seriously around planeshift.

I'm just curious as to whether the game has lost its fanbase or what. Seeing as how I am trying to establish a Magic themed region. Plz reply ^_^

Dop you mean as in Magic the gatehring card game?

I play occasionally, but have my own region.