Evolution or Creationism
What do you belive was the origin of people? Creationism or Evolution? I personnally think it was evolution because of evidence found in Africa of semi-Human, semi-ape skeleton things
like this
http://www.inform.kz/txt/showarticle.php?lang=eng&id=140799
IL Ruffino
29-03-2006, 07:17
No nonoononoooooooo! Go away you evil question asker!
Evolution, btw :p
A combination of observed evolution in microorganisms, morphological evidence, and certain patterns in the fossil record lead me to conclude that evolution is a reality. However, this does not necessarily rule out the possibility that God is somehow involved in the process; it simply means that if God is actively involved in speciation, then He is using evolution as His means of creation.
Of course, the existence or nonexistence of God is another topic that crops up every week or so...
The UN abassadorship
29-03-2006, 07:20
old question, old debate, but evolution
i think religion needs to step up its game and show me some hard proof about Adam and Eve or whatever then...i'll look at creationism as a possiblity.
The Alma Mater
29-03-2006, 07:38
Let me put it this way.
Creationism tells us a reasonably appealing story about how life came to be, involving elements like "we are special","we are not alone". "there is a higher purpose" and so on. It tells us how it should be.
Evolution tells us what appears to have actually happend, based on evidence.
One is based on thought experiment; the other on what we actually observe. Unfortunately the second one tends to give more reliable results...
RetroLuddite Saboteurs
29-03-2006, 07:43
will this thread die if we spam it with flying spagetti monster propaganda?
Norleans
29-03-2006, 07:53
What do you belive was the origin of people? Creationism or Evolution? I personnally think it was evolution because of evidence found in Africa of semi-Human, semi-ape skeleton things
like this
http://www.inform.kz/txt/showarticle.php?lang=eng&id=140799
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!! Not again. OK, one more time!
Creationism in the sense of a literal 7, twenty-four hour day beginning to life, the universe and everything is ruled out unless you believe in the "Blade Runner" theory of everything beginning, including fossils, 3 minutes ago (i.e. The world was created with evidence of evolution in place) which is just a bit much to swallow.
That said, evolution does not exclude the presence of divine intervention in the rise of mankind nor does a belief in such divine intervention exclude evolution as a valid, scientific theory. They CAN (and IMHO do) co-exist. They are NOT mutually exclusive. Your question is a non-sequiter and should be refined and rephrased if you wish to engender real discussion otherwise you'll get the "Geez, not this shit again" replies piling on you.
Boonytopia
29-03-2006, 07:54
Just to make this oft repeated subject more interesting, I'm going to answer "creation" this time. It's strictly once only though.
Egg and chips
29-03-2006, 08:31
http://www.strangepersons.com/images/content/8531.jpg
Shortsdom
29-03-2006, 08:48
That said, evolution does not exclude the presence of divine intervention in the rise of mankind nor does a belief in such divine intervention exclude evolution as a valid, scientific theory. They CAN (and IMHO do) co-exist. They are NOT mutually exclusive. Your question is a non-sequiter and should be refined and rephrased if you wish to engender real discussion otherwise you'll get the "Geez, not this shit again" replies piling on you.[/QUOTE]
I think the important thing to remember is evolution is just a theory and not a scientific fact, as it is often treated. I personally as a scientist cant see how everything has evolved from one commmon ancestor.
The Alma Mater
29-03-2006, 08:54
I think the important thing to remember is evolution is just a theory and not a scientific fact, as it is often treated. I personally as a scientist cant see how everything has evolved from one commmon ancestor.
The simple fact that you put the words "just" and "a theory" next to eachother strongly suggest that you are NOT a scientist.
Desperate Measures
29-03-2006, 09:05
http://www.explodingdog.com/january1/herecomestheargument.html
Desperate Measures
29-03-2006, 09:07
Oh and this one too: http://www.explodingdog.com/january2/iamascientist.html
San haiti
29-03-2006, 10:01
Oh noes! Its the second sign of the apocalypse, another evolution v creation thread!
and stop being silly, the answer's obviously that we popped into existence spontaneously at 2.37 this morning complete with all our memories.
The Alma Mater
29-03-2006, 10:03
Oh noes! Its the second sign of the apocalypse, another evolution v creation thread!
Feel free to start one which discusses the dozens of options which are neither evolution nor creation. Those poor minorities often get overlooked.
Monkeypimp
29-03-2006, 10:05
zomg lol
Bakamongue
29-03-2006, 10:47
Oh noes! Its the second sign of the apocalypse, another evolution v creation thread!
and stop being silly, the answer's obviously that we popped into existence spontaneously at 2.37 this morning complete with all our memories.IMHO, you're being a bit premature (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10592821&postcount=25).
*nodnod*