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Please take this short quiz http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html I can't say how acurate it is but it shows an amazing majority of the people who took the quiz are libertarian yet the vote never reflects it.

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

By the way I scored libertarian.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 100%.

Everybody scores as a libertarian on that test no matter what you answer. I've yet to see anyone that hasn't.

Edit: I just disagreed on everything and got "statist".

I didn't score libertarian.

LIBERAL


LIBERALS usually embrace freedom of choice in personal

matters, but tend to support significant government control of the

economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net"
to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation

of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations,

defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action

to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.

Everybody scores as a libertarian on that test no matter what you answer. I've yet to see anyone that hasn't.

Edit: I just disagreed on everything and got "statist".

I got liberal.

Don't agree with that definition or the test.

Liberal Libretarian

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 90%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 50%.

Everybody scores as a libertarian on that test no matter what you answer. I've yet to see anyone that hasn't.

Edit: I just disagreed on everything and got "statist".

I answered all the questions honestly, and I still came up with "Liberal"

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 30%.

According to this test, I'm a liberal. <shudder>

This test sucks. It says I'm a liberal. Maybe on social issues, but economically far from it.

I answered all the questions honestly, and I still came up with "Liberal"

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 30%.

I may be mixing it up w/ another but their definitions are definately skewed.

I may be mixing it up w/ another but their definitions are definately skewed.

I don't know about skewed. It is rather short though. But, the questions are general and vague enough for it's lack of length.

I'm not liberal! Even though I really am.

The political description that
fits you best is...
STATIST

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 0%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 0%.

I can't say how acurate it is but it shows an amazing majority of the people who took the quiz are libertarian yet the vote never reflects it.


34% is hardly an "amazing majority".

It's probably the most biased and simplistic politics test on the entire internet.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 90%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 30%.

Liberal, it says. This test seems biased...

OMG!

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 70%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 90%.

This is a test that is put out by the libertarian party (I think), so it's gonna be biased.

By the way, liberal here means socialist, and libertarian means liberal. That's thanks to our screwed up American definitions.

It said i was a 'closet transexual'

How did it know?

[QUOTE=Kecibukia]Everybody scores as a libertarian on that test no matter what you answer. I've yet to see anyone that hasn't.

CENTRIST



CENTRISTS espouse a "middle ground" regarding government

control of the economy and personal behavior. Depending on

the issue, they sometimes favor government intervention

and sometimes support individual freedom of choice.

Centrists pride themselves on keeping an open mind,

tend to oppose "political extremes," and emphasize what

they describe as "practical" solutions to problems.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 40%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 50%.

I didn't score libertarian.
Ah, so going by that quote it's very much a US centric site...nowhere else would liberal mean that.

Hey... This is pretty good...

ACCORDING TO YOUR ANSWERS,

The political description that
fits you best is...

CENTRIST

CENTRISTS espouse a "middle ground" regarding government

control of the economy and personal behavior. Depending on

the issue, they sometimes favor government intervention

and sometimes support individual freedom of choice.

Centrists pride themselves on keeping an open mind,

tend to oppose "political extremes," and emphasize what

they describe as "practical" solutions to problems.



The RED DOT on the Chart shows where you fit on the political map.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 50%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 70%.

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=5&e=7

There is nothing left-wing about corporate welfare and protectionism. This quiz has an obvious bias towards the libertarian point of view, assuming that "left-wing" = in favor of state intervention in the economy, period, which is utter nonsense.

Libertarian. >.<

Damn Conservatives :sniper:

Liberal

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 60%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 20%.

Seems pretty accurate to me.

LIBERTARIAN

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 90%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 60%.

I dont think the test is really accurate even though I do consider myself some what of a libertarian.

LIBERAL
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 40%.

CENTRIST
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 70%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 50%.

LIBERTARIAN
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 70%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 90%.

Simplistic test, but I am indeed a minarchist Libertarian-liberal.


LIBERTARIANS support maximum liberty in both personal and

economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one

that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence.

Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose

government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate

diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties.

ACCORDING TO YOUR ANSWERS,

The political description that
fits you best is...

.

LIBERAL


LIBERALS usually embrace freedom of choice in personal

matters, but tend to support significant government control of the

economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net"
to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation

of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations,

defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action

to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.

I think my percentages were 90/10.

It actually was accurate for me.

What about those of us who believe the problem is power, and that neither the Government nor business should be allowed to be too powerful? is I guess adding anarchist or even utopian marxist(if they wanted to sound mean) would complicate the foursided map too much...

maybe we just fall off the edge and get ignored by everyone

What about those of us who believe the problem is power, and that neither the Government nor business should be allowed to be too powerful? is I guess adding anarchist or even utopian marxist(if they wanted to sound mean) would complicate the foursided map too much...

maybe we just fall off the edge and get ignored by everyone
Libertarian-left you mean?

I scored as a conservative, which fits in with my political views.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 40%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 100%

The political description that fits you best is...
CENTRIST

CENTRISTS espouse a "middle ground" regarding government control of the economy and personal behavior. Depending on the issue, they sometimes favor government intervention and sometimes support individual freedom of choice.
Centrists pride themselves on keeping an open mind, tend to oppose "political extremes," and emphasize what they describe as "practical" solutions to problems.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 70%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 40%.
(Please note: Scores falling on the Centrist border are counted as Centrist.)
Muhahaha! Take that, Eut.

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=7&e=4

i dislike(was going to use hate) liberals but it seemed that i am one according to that quiz, and since i am a conservative i give this quiz a :upyours:

Libertarian-left you mean?

Sorry, no, That implies Government control of the economy, which equals government power. You're right, however, to an extent, since the goal of marxism is the same as the goal of the anarchists, the question is how to reach that point.

i dislike(was going to use hate) liberals but it seemed that i am one according to that quiz, and since i am a conservative i give this quiz a :upyours:
Actually, considering how simple that quiz is, I find this interesting.

Would you like to find out more?

Do these two and then tell me your scores. Maybe your personal views align more with the 'liberals', and you just want to be a conservative because you have such a negative image of the left?
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
http://www.orgburo.com/pofoquiz/pofo.php

Sorry, no, That implies Government control of the economy, which equals government power. You're right, however, to an extent, since the goal of marxism is the same as the goal of the anarchists, the question is how to reach that point.
It implies no government. :confused:

It implies no government. :confused:

If referring to Marxism, then yes, yes it does. Marx's grand dream was to have no government, but a society that was run by all people. No leaders or corporations, no representation. Everyone has equal say in all things.

Think of it in the factory analogy:

If our country's system were used in a factory, it would work something like this: We have a factory, and we elect a group of people to run the factory for a period of time, before more elections occur. These people decide everything for the factory: wages, what we produce, etc. If they fail to meet the wants and needs of the workers, they will not be elected again. At the end of the day, what was produced that day is split in certain portions according to what is decided by the "higher ups", so to speak(Note, not saying the government controls wages here, just that different people get payed differently)

In a Marxist(in terms of the ideology) system: Every thing the factory does is decided by all people, equally. There is no "mediary" people. Likewise, at the end of the day, everything produced is split equally among all of the factory worker, in equal portions.

So, in essence, there is no government in Marxism(as far as the ideal goes).

I'm statist.

*snip*
Indeed. Libertarianism as an entire movement focuses on as little government as possible, from minarchism to the point of anarcho- capitalism/syndicalism/socialism/communism, each with their own respective differences. This is why I found the proposition that it implies statism quite odd.

I scored a Conservative.

There is nothing left-wing about corporate welfare and protectionism. This quiz has an obvious bias towards the libertarian point of view, assuming that "left-wing" = in favor of state intervention in the economy, period, which is utter nonsense.

Umm, yes there is. Corporate welfare and protectionism are the staples of maintaining the monopolies that characterize state-run economies. What exactly are policies left wing governments propose that invite competition and free markets? Of course, there are people like Bill Clinton, but he was not a socialist by any stretch.

But do the right wingers employ these strategies as well when it suits them? Of course. Just like socialists implement ideas that leave their countries more hierarchical and divided than more liberal countries. (Although they're not entirely equivalent; one succumbs to political realities, the other economic realities.)

Do these two and then tell me your scores. Maybe your personal views align more with the 'liberals', and you just want to be a conservative because you have such a negative image of the left?
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
http://www.orgburo.com/pofoquiz/pofo.php
Acording to the Orgburo quiz, I am a libertarian.
82% Individualist
93% Materialist
98% Small Government
77% Internationalist
100% Free-Trader
65% Non-Absolutist
92% Liberal Market
52% Marxist

I took the Political Compass test a while ago, cant remeber the score though.

ACCORDING TO YOUR ANSWERS,

The political description that
fits you best is....

LIBERTARIAN

LIBERTARIANS support maximum liberty in both personal and economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence. Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 70%.


Sounds pretty accurate...

Please take this short quiz http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html I can't say how acurate it is but it shows an amazing majority of the people who took the quiz are libertarian yet the vote never reflects it.

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

By the way I scored libertarian.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 100%.
There's another good quiz at
www.politicalcompass.org

There's another good quiz at
www.politicalcompass.org
Oh sorry screw my post you guys know about it.

CENTRIST

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 50%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 30%.

I just took the orgburo quiz...

Individual vs Social - 46%
Theist vs Materialist - 55%
Big Government vs Small Government - 69%
Nationalist vs Internationalist - 46%
Protectionist vs Free Trader - 67%
Absolutist vs Non-Absolutist - 56%
Controlled Market vs Liberal Market - 26%
Marxist vs Non-Marxist - 50%

I was libertarian-left on the Poltical Compass Quiz, very left, and Social-Liberal on the Orgburo Quiz. I get some variation of liberal on any political test i take, they've all been accurate when it comes to my beliefs.

That test told me I was a liberal and it told my friend he was a centrist. For the record he is the most liberal person I know and I pride myself in being moderate.

I got Statist, I've never even heard of that before. Wierd.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 30%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 10%

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 90%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 20%.

Yeah, I'm firmly over in the liberal corner of the chart, no big surprise there.

100% on both

Umm, yes there is. Corporate welfare and protectionism are the staples of maintaining the monopolies that characterize state-run economies. What exactly are policies left wing governments propose that invite competition and free markets? Of course, there are people like Bill Clinton, but he was not a socialist by any stretch.

"State-run economies" are not necessarily left-wing any more than state intervention in the economy is left-wing. State-owned companies in a country with substantial political democracy would probably merit that label, as would government-run social programs, but corporate subsidies and protectionism are neither left-wing nor right-wing. They're just state intervention.

ACCORDING TO YOUR ANSWERS,

The political description that
fits you best is...

.

CENTRIST



CENTRISTS espouse a "middle ground" regarding government

control of the economy and personal behavior. Depending on

the issue, they sometimes favor government intervention

and sometimes support individual freedom of choice.

Centrists pride themselves on keeping an open mind,

tend to oppose "political extremes," and emphasize what

they describe as "practical" solutions to problems.



Your PERSONAL issues Score is 50%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 40%.

OMG!

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 70%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 90%.

i got...personal issues..100%
economic..................60%

kinda close...but i dont consider myself liberal in many ways.

Liberal
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 100%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 30%.