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Why do only fascists get the cool uniforms?

Super-power
26-03-2006, 17:56
I've been thinking...I love my freedom and all, but where's my snappy uniform? I mean, only the fascists get the cool ones, ours are just sappy....

(if you didn't get it by now, this thread's a joke)
Deep Kimchi
26-03-2006, 17:57
The snappier the uniform, the more likely an army is to lose a war, in such a way as to lose the whole country.
Praetonia
26-03-2006, 17:58
They dont:

http://www.hiddenglasgow.com/granary/images/ColinCampbell_horesguards.jpg
Franberry
26-03-2006, 17:59
Communists also had cool uniforms
Super-power
26-03-2006, 18:00
They dont:
But they do in all the sci-fi! Why can't the freedom fighters get cool ones, no matter how expensive they are?
Praetonia
26-03-2006, 18:02
Freedom fighters are crap. Cavalry for the win.
Deep Kimchi
26-03-2006, 18:03
They dont:

http://www.hiddenglasgow.com/granary/images/ColinCampbell_horesguards.jpg

Sorry, those uniforms look rather prissy.
The Nuke Testgrounds
26-03-2006, 18:03
But they do in all the sci-fi! Why can't the freedom fighters get cool ones, no matter how expensive they are?

When you are a freedom fighter your clothing is quite probably designed for maximum efficiency and durability. Not for coolness and external display.
Dobbsworld
26-03-2006, 18:04
I've been thinking...I love my freedom and all, but where's my snappy uniform? I mean, only the fascists get the cool ones, ours are just sappy....

Don't worry, your cool uniforms are surely in the mail by now.
Evil little girls
26-03-2006, 18:08
Join the punksquad!
Leather boots, chains, leather jackets enforced with metal studs, skull motiffs a mohawk that can kill pierce metal, loads of projectiles (mostly beer bottles) It's not only a cool uniform, it also scares the crap out of the enemy
Praetonia
26-03-2006, 18:09
Sorry, those uniforms look rather prissy.
Not the best picture. This one is better:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/nl/thumb/7/70/Horseguards.jpg/250px-Horseguards.jpg
Evil little girls
26-03-2006, 18:09
Not the best picture. This one is better:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/nl/thumb/7/70/Horseguards.jpg/250px-Horseguards.jpg

He looks kinda fasco
Deep Kimchi
26-03-2006, 18:10
Not the best picture. This one is better:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/nl/thumb/7/70/Horseguards.jpg/250px-Horseguards.jpg

The typical British uniform has been much more drab, much to their credit.
Praetonia
26-03-2006, 18:11
The typical British uniform has been much more drab, much to their credit.
Well yes obviously the British army no longer deploys cavalry dressed in bright red with breast-plates and sabres to actual combat environments.
Richardsky
26-03-2006, 18:11
freedom fighters look like anarchists and we all know that no matter whether they win or not anarchists are cool.
This has nothing to do with my region being called anarchist army
Argesia
26-03-2006, 18:15
This uniform was rather cool:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4e/Redarmydayposter.jpeg.jpeg
http://members.telering.at/pat/sold1.jpg
Evil little girls
26-03-2006, 18:16
freedom fighters look like anarchists and we all know that no matter whether they win or not anarchists are cool.
This has nothing to do with my region being called anarchist army

Haha, rock on richard:p
Cromyr
26-03-2006, 18:29
Reds for the win

http://www.globalenvision.org/_image/zapatistas-econ.jpg
Keruvalia
26-03-2006, 18:42
Oh I dunno ... our Marines have always been snappy dressers.

http://www.crownpointantiques.com/Military%20Pics/tunUSMCww2.JPG

(from WW2)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
26-03-2006, 19:00
This uniform was rather cool:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4e/Redarmydayposter.jpeg.jpeg
http://members.telering.at/pat/sold1.jpg
Aye, but what's with the silly hats?
Mikesburg
26-03-2006, 19:09
Everyone knows that 'the bad guys' have to have cooler uniforms. It's just tradition. I mean, when was the last time you watched star wars? Would you rather wear a stormtrooper outfit, or that blue outfit with the black vest and white bicycle helmet?

Nazi's were inherently cool dressers. Makes for good movies.
Huntaer
26-03-2006, 19:09
You don't think space marines have cool armor?

http://www.cloudmover.net/images/gamcardillos/cardswarhammer40k/pictures/squadmorpheustactica.jpg

They're the "good guys" who defend humanity in 40k.
Praetonia
26-03-2006, 19:17
Humanity in WH40K is basically Fascism. And space marines do look kind of silly tbh...
Ilie
26-03-2006, 20:12
Uniforms are only good for morale.
Shalaam
26-03-2006, 20:27
OK, in Star Wars, the Stormtroopers have the coolest uniforms.

But in reality, I would take an American uniform over a German one any day.

Oh, and in Return of the Jedi? The rebels had camo.
Gaithersburg
26-03-2006, 20:56
Puh, the Papal Swiss Guard beats them all.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bd/Swiss_Guard.jpg

If your badass enough to wear that without caring, then nothing going to stop you.
Skinny87
26-03-2006, 21:00
Well yes obviously the British army no longer deploys cavalry dressed in bright red with breast-plates and sabres to actual combat environments.

And why not? A Cavalry Squadron sweeping through the plains of the Iraqi desert, hunting down the insurgents to the sound of a hunting horn, sabres rising and hacking down, sun gleaming off their bloodied blades - exactly what Iraq needs at the moment; screw the tanks malarky.
Laerod
26-03-2006, 21:06
I've been thinking...I love my freedom and all, but where's my snappy uniform? I mean, only the fascists get the cool ones, ours are just sappy....

(if you didn't get it by now, this thread's a joke)Sukhomlinov Effect.
Be glad. The S Effect dictates that the better looking uniform loses the conflict.
British in the Revolutionary War.
Russians in WWI (East Front)
Germans in WWI (West Front)
French in Franco Prussian War
Germans in WWII
Americans in Vietnam
...
Fass
26-03-2006, 21:09
http://www.slm.a.se/bb-2001-08.jpg

The snazziest uniforms I've seen have had nothing to do with politics, unless you count S&M and leather bars as political, which they very well can be at times.
German Nightmare
26-03-2006, 21:15
You don't think space marines have cool armor?
Sure do. Nice picture, BTW!
Humanity in WH40K is basically Fascism. And space marines do look kind of silly tbh...
It is. And those do. But that's because they are silly Blood Angels. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ccdesan/FloGrinSmiley.gif

Take a Space Wolf and things do look different!
http://www.warpartefacts.com/popups/space-wolf.jpg

Anyway - to come back to the OP - it is something of a running joke where I come from.
"Sure, we lost the war. But weren't those uniforms just a sight to behold?"

Interestingly enough, many actors have described that they start feeling different when they put on a German uniform and some of the crew have said that their posture has also changed just by putting on a piece of cloth. Fascinating, isn't it?
Zolworld
26-03-2006, 21:22
The SS did have fabulous uniforms. A little too fabulous. They were probably worried sick about getting them dirty. add in the stress of war and youv got a surefire recipe for OCD.
The Bruce
27-03-2006, 00:11
I always thought the KISS Army had the scariest uniforms. Trust me, you see a bunch of guys with guns dressed like this and your soldiers will run for it.

http://www.kissasylum.com/psychocircus/photos/KISSstanding_blue.jpg

http://www.kissarmynorway.com/img/kan/stiggeneral.jpg

http://www.seanclaes.com/KISS061004/images/62gKISS061004.jpg
Huntaer
27-03-2006, 00:17
I also kinda liked the uniforms of the grand moffs in SW (which, most of the GE uniforms were sort of stolen from the Nazis. The way storm troopers march is similar thus to the Nazis as well. Tarkin did sound somewhat like a nazi leader speaking good english)

http://www.theforce.net/books/images/TZ-THRAWN1.jpg
Skinny87
27-03-2006, 00:19
I also kinda liked the uniforms of the grand moffs in SW (which, most of the GE uniforms were sort of stolen from the Nazis. The way storm troopers march is similar thus to the Nazis as well. Tarkin did sound somewhat like a nazi leader speaking good english)

http://www.theforce.net/books/images/TZ-THRAWN1.jpg

Ahhh, Thrawn. Killed at the top of his career...
Huntaer
27-03-2006, 00:22
Humanity in WH40K is basically Fascism.

At least it is typically against aliens rather than their own people.
Mikesburg
27-03-2006, 01:34
Ahhh, Thrawn. Killed at the top of his career...

What? Evacuate in his moment of triumph?

*runs before people accuse him of hijacking thread in name of SW*
Quaon
27-03-2006, 02:06
Freedom fighters are crap. Cavalry for the win.
Quaon, Quaon, uber alles! Uber alles in der welt! :D
Bodies Without Organs
27-03-2006, 02:16
Freedom fighters are crap. Cavalry for the win.

Ah, but what is your opinion on the Makhnovists, who were both freedom fighters and cavalry?
The Psyker
27-03-2006, 07:57
What? Evacuate in his moment of triumph?

*runs before people accuse him of hijacking thread in name of SW*
Thats Tarkin if your going to hijack the thread at least do so correctly:rolleyes:
Revnia
27-03-2006, 08:02
Puh, the Papal Swiss Guard beats them all.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bd/Swiss_Guard.jpg

If your badass enough to wear that without caring, then nothing going to stop you.

They must have uber morale to accept that uniform.
Revnia
27-03-2006, 08:05
At least it is typically against aliens rather than their own people.

tell that to the psykers and mutants........
The Psyker
27-03-2006, 08:07
tell that to the psykers and mutants........
Don't forget the servitors either.
Revnia
27-03-2006, 08:12
Don't forget the servitors either.

who were they again?
The Psyker
27-03-2006, 08:13
who were they again?
The cyborg laborer things you see running around in all the art. The oppresion of psykers was of course a much greater offense;)
Revnia
27-03-2006, 08:14
The cyborg laborer things you see running around in all the art.

like the adeptus mechanicus?
The Psyker
27-03-2006, 08:16
like the adeptus mechanicus?
They were the worker ones made up of labotimized dissitents, criminals, and such.
The UN abassadorship
27-03-2006, 08:31
because facists are cooler?
The Anglophone Peoples
27-03-2006, 08:45
I must agree the United States Marines do have a VERY snazzy uniform.

Puts my suit to shame.
Strobovia
27-03-2006, 09:56
The Danish Royal Guard is the coolest:D

http://www.nd.edu/~ndband/photos/scandinavia/125%20-%20Day%209%20-%20Copenhagen%20-%20Danish%20royal%20guard.JPG

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/nvaget/eurst/europe/denmark/pictures/the_royal_guard_1.jpg
Damor
27-03-2006, 10:12
" Why do only fascists get the cool uniforms?"

Because they don't have an appointed comittee decide what it should look like, compromising on everything to either make it look bland, or like a bunch of slaughtered peacocks sewn together.
German Nightmare
27-03-2006, 11:15
Ahhh, Thrawn. Killed at the top of his career...
Cool! That answer is very much along the lines that came to my mind when I saw the pic.
JuNii
27-03-2006, 11:54
They must have uber morale to accept that uniform.
Unless the military philosophy is...
"The enemy can't shoot your ass off if they're too busy laughing theirs off."
Cotland
27-03-2006, 12:14
Unless the military philosophy is...
"The enemy can't shoot your ass off if they're too busy laughing theirs off."
ROFL!

Personally, I like the uniform of the Norwegian HMKG.

http://www.exporama.no/media/messer/forsvar2003/HMKG.jpg

Alternately,

http://bfo.no/images/uploads/hmkg_7.jpg
(it's the guy to the left, the one with the rifle...)
Dododecapod
27-03-2006, 15:42
The Nazis had one huge advantage - they had Hugo Boss design all their uniforms!
Nhovistrana
27-03-2006, 15:53
Humanity in WH40K is basically Fascism. And space marines do look kind of silly tbh...

I always thought it was more like Soviet Communism. Commissars in the army (actually, those guys have pretty cool uniforms), penal batallions, random slaughtering of populations at the merest hint of opposition...
Evil little boys
27-03-2006, 15:58
Meh, I mock all uniforms. I think it's better to be on the side of the freedom fighters, they don't have any uniforms and usually less money so they wear everything they can find, wich gives freedom fighters such a cool look, one of freedom, freedom also to wear what you want.

But I must admit that police special forces have cool uniforms.
Daistallia 2104
27-03-2006, 15:59
They must have uber morale to accept that uniform.

Well seeing as the Swiss mercenaries were the most sought after military men until the Swiss constitution outlawed the practice in 1859 (IIRC due to pressures from other European states. The just kicked ass that bad.)
Hurdegaryp
27-03-2006, 16:06
And why not? A Cavalry Squadron sweeping through the plains of the Iraqi desert, hunting down the insurgents to the sound of a hunting horn, sabres rising and hacking down, sun gleaming off their bloodied blades - exactly what Iraq needs at the moment; screw the tanks malarky.
Given the tactics generally used by the various types of insurgents in Iraq, I would assume that the life expectancy of that Cavalry Squadron would be rather short. Nothing says "Gentlemen, I'm afraid the hunting party's over..." like for example a suicide bomber or the rather common ambush.
Tzorsland
27-03-2006, 16:06
Knights of Columbus have the coolest uniforms!

http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL291/1756382/5113060/60146891.jpg
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
27-03-2006, 18:49
The Nazis had one huge advantage - they had Hugo Boss design all their uniforms!
And Gucci did the Italian uniforms, which proves that European fashion designers are all fascists, looking out for the slightest opportunity to kill us all and steal our souls.
American fashion designers merely want us to look like identical (and "ironic") idiots while they steal our souls, which makes the US better than the EU. By extension, this proves that Chicago-Style Pizza is better than the traditional Italian variety, answering the greatest of the Ancient Questions which has plagued mankind since the beginning of Pizza.
Eutrusca
27-03-2006, 19:07
I've been thinking...I love my freedom and all, but where's my snappy uniform? I mean, only the fascists get the cool ones, ours are just sappy....

(if you didn't get it by now, this thread's a joke)
Not true!
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1107/forrest26fulldress4yp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:D
Gravlen
27-03-2006, 19:12
Since this topic has been done before, and I'm too lazy to repost the pictures - a link! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10464901&postcount=76)
Dogburg II
27-03-2006, 19:18
But the cool thing about not being a Nazi is you can pick your own awesome uniform.
Eutrusca
27-03-2006, 19:26
Since this topic has been done before, and I'm too lazy to repost the pictures - a link! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10464901&postcount=76)
The Starship Troopers were hardly Nazis! :p
GreaterPacificNations
27-03-2006, 19:28
Not true!
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1107/forrest26fulldress4yp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:D

compare
http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/uniforms4/Waffen-SS.jpg
http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/uniforms4/Allgemeine-SS.jpg
http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/uniforms4/italy-MVSN.jpg
http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/uniforms4/Red-Air-Force.jpg
http://www.gnt.net/~jrube/Genjirou/07.jpg

Too cool...
Eutrusca
27-03-2006, 19:30
compare
http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/uniforms4/Waffen-SS.jpg
http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/uniforms4/Allgemeine-SS.jpg
http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/uniforms4/italy-MVSN.jpg
http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/uniforms4/Red-Air-Force.jpg
http://www.gnt.net/~jrube/Genjirou/07.jpg

Too cool...
Mine looks better! :p
Gravlen
27-03-2006, 19:40
The Starship Troopers were hardly Nazis! :p
Nazis? No.
Fascists? Oh yes.
Fass
27-03-2006, 20:08
Mine looks better! :p

Take it from me, no, no it doesn't.
JuNii
27-03-2006, 20:26
Mine looks better! :p
Except for the stitching which makes it look like your cap got it's top ripped off and repaired with scotch tape. :D
German Nightmare
27-03-2006, 23:35
Not true!
:D
What did you get the Bronze Star for?

(Funny that I know the US ribbons better than the German ones!
http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/ribbons/Army1.html)
Mikesburg
27-03-2006, 23:35
Thats Tarkin if your going to hijack the thread at least do so correctly:rolleyes:

Oops. My bad. :( Read Tarkin's name in the quote above that and got all nostalgic...