NationStates Jolt Archive

Hardly suprising, but he views it with the same level of general disdain as he expressed after signing McCain's anti-torture bill. While he pushed for this law, and praises the Congress for finally passing it, his Signing Memorandum makes it perfectly clear that he intends to wipe his ass with it any time he feels the need.

Why?

Because the act as passed includes the one thing that GW cannot stand. Oversight.

His response to oversight?

"Fuck that." (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060309-8.html)


The executive branch shall construe the provisions of H.R. 3199 that call for furnishing information to entities outside the executive branch, such as sections 106A and 119, in a manner consistent with the President's constitutional authority to supervise the unitary executive branch and to withhold information the disclosure of which could impair foreign relations, national security, the deliberative processes of the Executive, or the performance of the Executive's constitutional duties.


This new interpretation of the notion of the Unitary Executive branch by this administration is, frankly, the most nauseating thing to come down the pipes in a long time. I mean, what is the point of the elected houses if the President can simply ignore any laws passed?

I mean, what is the point of the elected houses if the President can simply ignore any laws passed?

Sounds a little like Hitler's Enabling Act. *Shudders*

The bills will help us continue to fight terrorism effectively and to combat the use of the illegal drug methamphetamine that is ruining too many lives.[ out of the text linked as fuck that as the thread starter ]


I'm not too sure on wether that little man in the White House ACTUALLY has his priorities straightened out...

Yes, because combatting Methanphetamine use was certainly the big topic of discussion when the Patriot Act was being debated..... :rolleyes:

However, it clearly indicates the intent to make this act more involved in domestic law enforcement than actual national security - which is NOT what it was intended for.

constricting laws make me feel cozy, wrapped in the binding love of my president. well, not MY president actually...

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I had to look at that for some time before I worked out what you meant. :p

Just a little reminder for all those Bushies out there--Bush got the signing statement idea from his old pal Sam Alito, so any possbility of it being successfully challenged is slim.

Now while you may think that's okay with Bush as President, ask yourself, how would you feel if Congress passed some legislation significant to you--say an abortion ban--and President Hillary decided to treat it the same way in a signing statement? Hell, we may never see another veto again. Why should we, if the power of the executive signing statement turns into an un-overturnable veto?

Yes, because combatting Methanphetamine use was certainly the big topic of discussion when the Patriot Act was being debated.....
Didn't you know GWB has resolved to get cocaine off the streets.
One line at a time.

Sounds a little like Hitler's Enabling Act. *Shudders*

Ten to One we see Congress burnt down in a few years and the government blaming it on 'Islamic Terrorists'

Sounds a little like Hitler's Enabling Act. *Shudders*
Clearly not just a little :rolleyes:

Sounds a little like Hitler's Enabling Act. *Shudders*

Plenty of similar acts before - I could point to Senator Metzenbaums' bill (Democrat) a few years back which he had translated directly from the original German, and left unmodified - that would have disarmed the American public using Hitler's exact words.

But I guess you missed that one, eh?

Plenty of similar acts before - I could point to Senator Metzenbaums' bill (Democrat) a few years back which he had translated directly from the original German, and left unmodified - that would have disarmed the American public using Hitler's exact words.

But I guess you missed that one, eh?

So what does that prove? That your government and both parties are moving more frightening and totalitarian bills than before? That both parties are just as bad?

Ten to One we see Congress burnt down in a few years and the government blaming it on 'Islamic Terrorists'
Twenty to one it's burned down down by shadow-government operatives.

A hundred to one those operatives will be exclusively Republican.

Plenty of similar acts before - I could point to Senator Metzenbaums' bill (Democrat) a few years back which he had translated directly from the original German, and left unmodified - that would have disarmed the American public using Hitler's exact words.

But I guess you missed that one, eh?
I don't suppose you'd like to offer anything remotely resembling proof of this, huh? By which I mean that whatever legislation you're describing was indeed translated from the German of (presumably, since that's what you're implying) Hitler's time.

Plenty of similar acts before - I could point to Senator Metzenbaums' bill (Democrat) a few years back which he had translated directly from the original German, and left unmodified - that would have disarmed the American public using Hitler's exact words.

But I guess you missed that one, eh?
I can find nothing about this.

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I'm not too sure on wether that little man in the White House ACTUALLY has his priorities straightened out...
Imo, he has his priorities worked out perfectly. Unfortunately, they are not the nation's priorities.

Yes, because combatting Methanphetamine use was certainly the big topic of discussion when the Patriot Act was being debated..... :rolleyes:

However, it clearly indicates the intent to make this act more involved in domestic law enforcement than actual national security - which is NOT what it was intended for.
Who told you that? The guy who wrote it? He was lying.

Plenty of similar acts before - I could point to Senator Metzenbaums' bill (Democrat) a few years back which he had translated directly from the original German, and left unmodified - that would have disarmed the American public using Hitler's exact words.

But I guess you missed that one, eh?
Ah, Kimchi, how I've missed you! Nobody else on this forum dives in as unreservedly as you with the "hey, other people have committed crimes, so why can't I do it, too?" argument. :rolleyes:

I also enjoy the veiled accusation of Nazism, coupled with total lack of supporting fact. Well done.

so can we call it a coup now?


oh, and

http://mke.indymedia.org/images/2005/12/204512.jpg

so can we call it a coup now?


oh, and

http://mke.indymedia.org/images/2005/12/204512.jpg
That's great.

or, i suppose, you could keep trying the "maybe if we just sit here quietly, we'll retake congress and then ask them nicely to stop in a year or three (if it's ok with them and wouldn't be too much trouble...)" strategy. either way, i guess.

I cant wait til November

I cant wait til November

nor can i. did you know that you can get torches, pitchforks, and rope at any time of the year?

nor can i. did you know that you can get torches, pitchforks, and rope at any time of the year?
:D

we can also use Magic too