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Before you say anthing, just hear me out. I was thinking today about WW2, because I do that since a lot since I studied it and I thought was Nazis good for us? After all the Nazis forced us into WW2 which brought us out of the depression, which was good for America. Then the Nazis crippled western europe and by the end of the war the US was the lone superpower, which was good for America. So I was just wondering do you think Nazi Germany was good for America?

Yes, I think they were super-fun-wow for America.

Before you say anthing, just hear me out. I was thinking today about WW2, because I do that since a lot since I studied it and I thought was Nazis good for us? After all the Nazis forced us into WW2 which brought us out of the depression, which was good for America. Then the Nazis crippled western europe and by the end of the war the US was the lone superpower, which was good for America. So I was just wondering do you think Nazi Germany was good for America?

Oh yeah, the hundreds of thousands of dead were just brilliant for your country, I'm sure. It was great for us European countries as well...

It certainly could have been worse for America. Relatively speaking America got out of WW2 without a much damage, and getting out of a depression and establishing yourselves as a superpower is pretty good. It is odd to associate Nazis with something good, I must say.

Oh yeah, the hundreds of thousands of dead were just brilliant for your country, I'm sure. It was great for us European countries as well...

Well, considering the half century of dominance, some might say that a few hundered thousand would be quite a small price to pay.

/devilsadvocate

It certainly could have been worse for America. Relatively speaking America got out of WW2 without a much damage, and getting out of a depression and establishing yourselves as a superpower is pretty good. It is odd to associate Nazis with something good, I must say.

Well, it was certainly better than if they'd have not gone in. The US wouldn't have lasted more than a few decades otherwise.

Hitler was like America's crazy uncle.

Well, considering the half century of dominance, some might say that a few hundered thousand would be quite a small price to pay.

/devilsadvocate

Half-century of dominance by whom?

Yes, I think they were super-fun-wow for America.

LOL!

The 'War is good for the economy' people always get me laughing.

At any rate, if someone is going to 'give credit' to someone for getting the Americans to spur their economy by going to war, let's give that credit to the Japanese. I suppose you could argue that the race for the atomic bomb with Germany left America with a really big stick to poke at people...

Oh yeah, the hundreds of thousands of dead were just brilliant for your country, I'm sure. It was great for us European countries as well...
Millions of dead

Half-century of dominance by whom?
Siam

Siam

Either my brain isn't quite at peak function, or that made no sense. Eh?

Half-century of dominance by whom?

The United States. The Us has been able to dominate world affairs for over 50 years. This is linked to the position that WWII left the United States and the European powers.

/devilsadvocate

My slightly older than modern history may be rusty but I am pretty sure it is the Japanese that brought us into WW2.

The United States. The Us has been able to dominate world affairs for over 50 years. This is linked to the position that WWII left the United States and the European powers.

/devilsadvocate

Ohhhhhh...okay, I get it. Sorry, wasn't with you. Yes, I suppose it can be seen that way. Never quite thought of it like that, but yes...interesting.

My slightly older than modern history may be rusty but I am pretty sure it is the Japanese that brought us into WW2.

Yep. Pearl Harbor, then Hitler foolishly declared war on the US a few days later. Five days? I forget now, but fairly soon afterwards.

The Nazis also made the Bush Family a lot of money.

:D

My slightly older than modern history may be rusty but I am pretty sure it is the Japanese that brought us into WW2.
The OP thinks that Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Chinese.

The OP thinks that Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Chinese.

Chinese. Japanese. Koreans. They all look the same, right? Funny eyes, bow a lot...

Hes right.

America profits off wars, without a war ever now and then they suffer a depression.
Its because of this i think Americans who vote republican are inheritely evil and deserve a flogging.

The OP thinks that Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Chinese.

Tommy Tiernan(famous Irish comedian) said that too. Great joke.

The Nazis also made the Bush Family a lot of money.

:D

Oddly enough, a fact that the Bush's don't like having spread around. One wonders why...

My slightly older than modern history may be rusty but I am pretty sure it is the Japanese that brought us into WW2.
Actually Hilter was behind pearl Harbor

Actually Hilter was behind pearl Harbor

Oh, this should be good. Please, historical evidence and factual analysis please?

Actually Hilter was behind pearl Harbor
You sir, are the paragon of human intelligence.

Oh yeah- sure, you could say that nazis were good for the american economy, but I'd say that what good they did (without meaning too) in that area is offset by the immense amount of damage they and their allies inflicted upon the entire world.
Besides, WW2 may have temporarily helped the american economy, but since then the American military has been much larger and more expensive to maintain, so in the long run WW2, and thus the Nazis were not really so good for the economy.

You sir, are the paragon of human intelligence.

No, it all makes sense. The Chinese bribed Hitler to force Japan into the war and then force the US into the war...bringing in a superpower that would ultimately end his reign of terror. Yeah, makes perfect sense...

Actually Hilter was behind pearl Harbor

Like... geographically?

Wasn't that dangerous?

No, it all makes sense. The Chinese bribed Hitler to force Japan into the war and then force the US into the war...bringing in a superpower that would ultimately end his reign of terror. Yeah, makes perfect sense...

NOOOO, Hitler bribed the Chinise, Hitler is the masterlmind here. The Chinise then sailed across the Pacific with their massive fleet. And nuked Peral Harbor, while wearing face masks of the Japanese Emperor, thereby fooling the yanks.

Like... geographically?

Wasn't that dangerous?
He was an above average swimmer.

He was an above average swimmer.

Still, not a good place to go paddling, one would have thought...

Still, not a good place to go paddling, one would have thought...
I don't know if I should share this with you... but... (he had a secret weapon).
http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/63/d5/pr-Toys-Alex_Toys_Swimmies_Spotted-resized200.jpg

Still, not a good place to go paddling, one would have thought...

He could dive, so when the bombs came rainging down, all he had to do was go underwater for a bit. Everyone knows water destroys porrly made chinese bombs.

Har.

I don't know if I should share this with you... but... (he had a secret weapon).
http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/63/d5/pr-Toys-Alex_Toys_Swimmies_Spotted-resized200.jpg

Ingenius Nazi bastards...water wings. That's simply not cricket!

Oh, this should be good. Please, historical evidence and factual analysis please?
he was an ally of the North Africans and Japans so he wanted to hurt America, through pearl harbor.

Ingenius Nazi bastards...water wings. That's simply not cricket!
that ingeneous son-of-a-bitch

In the 1940's there were some members of the Republican Party that preferred siding with NAZI Germany than with the Allies. There was open criticism of the Democrats and FDR for having sided against the Axis.

Ingenius Nazi bastards...water wings. That's simply not cricket!
They had little pink swastikas. He looked adorable, bobbing up and down - up and down in the pacific.

he was an ally of the North Africans and Japans so he wanted to hurt America, through pearl harbor.

Is that it? That's your 'evidence'?

In the 1940's there were some members of the Republican Party that preferred siding with NAZI Germany than with the Allies. There was open criticism of the Democrats and FDR for having sided against the Axis.

Indeed - just as there were in Britain. Fortunately they were either ignored or dealt with, although the US business sector still profited handsomely from their nice Nazi partners during the war...

NOOOO, Hitler bribed the Chinise, Hitler is the masterlmind here. The Chinise then sailed across the Pacific with their massive fleet. And nuked Peral Harbor, while wearing face masks of the Japanese Emperor, thereby fooling the yanks.

no wonder the survivors complained of clone armies. . . . .

he was an ally of the North Africans and Japans so he wanted to hurt America, through pearl harbor.

...

That's your evidence? That's not bloody evidence. That's ill-formed opinion, and badly spelt as well. Prove that he actually had some hand in either planning the attack or aiding it in some way, or shut up making erroneous historical claims.

They had little pink swastikas. He looked adorable, bobbing up and down - up and down in the pacific.

"We all live on a Nazi Submarine
A Nazi Submarine
A Nazi Submarine"

"We all live on a Nazi Submarine
A Nazi Submarine
A Nazi Submarine"
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he was an ally of the North Africans and Japans so he wanted to hurt America, through pearl harbor.
North Africans???
You mean Vichy France?(his puppet)

How can Natzis be good for america, The natzies wanted to kill us, DUH. I mean come on they had plans to run fighter palns into the Empire State Building, The last thing we want is a 1940's 9/11.Who new what america would be like today. We would probaly be stronger and wouldnt have a wackjob president we have today(Cough..Bush...Cough). Those Nazi's today are white supremisist groups of the KKK. The goverment needs to put them in cells and burn them. They feed of the U.S and try to destroy it too!!
It makes me sick and MAD:mad:. The nazi is not good for america. They are just trying to bring innocent lives down like those dumb terrorist:mp5: .

USA IS HERE TO STAY

"We all live on a Nazi Submarine
A Nazi Submarine
A Nazi Submarine"
*bows*

How can Natzis be good for america, The natzies wanted to kill us, DUH. I mean come on they had plans to run fighter palns into the Empire State Building, The last thing we want is a 1940's 9/11.Who new what america would be like today. We would probaly be stronger and wouldnt have a wackjob president we have today(Cough..Bush...Cough). Those Nazi's today are white supremisist groups of the KKK. The goverment needs to put them in cells and burn them. They feed of the U.S and try to destroy it too!!
It makes me sick and MAD:mad:. The nazi is not good for america. They are just trying to bring innocent lives down like those dumb terrorist:mp5: .

USA IS HERE TO STAY

Oh good god. What the hell are you spewing off about. Firstly, it's 'Nazi's', and secondly, what evidence do you have for the Empire State kamikaze plan?

"We all live on a Nazi Submarine
A Nazi Submarine
A Nazi Submarine"
And the image because I have too much time on my hands.
http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dspolitic/pm/10817cs.jpg

How can Natzis be good for america, The natzies wanted to kill us, DUH. I mean come on they had plans to run fighter palns into the Empire State Building, The last thing we want is a 1940's 9/11.Who new what america would be like today. We would probaly be stronger and wouldnt have a wackjob president we have today(Cough..Bush...Cough). Those Nazi's today are white supremisist groups of the KKK. The goverment needs to put them in cells and burn them. They feed of the U.S and try to destroy it too!!
It makes me sick and MAD:mad:. The nazi is not good for america. They are just trying to bring innocent lives down like those dumb terrorist:mp5: .

USA IS HERE TO STAY

^
He took it seriously :eek:

And the image because I have too much time on my hands.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dspolitic/pm/10602cs.jpg&imgrefurl=http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dspolitic/Hitler.html&h=550&w=431&sz=127&tbnid=BzGZxZ5x1zjUvM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=101&hl=en&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhitler%2Bseuss%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLB,GGLB:1969-53,GGLB:en

Ahhh, Lindsberg. Thank god he was defeated...

I think every time Ambassadorship creates a thread, no one should say anything. Then it'd just stop, and we wouldn't have to deal with the idiocy spawned by it. And Ambassadorship wouldn't get that little feeling of yay-ness she gets by getting people all riled up over purposely stupid comments.


But didn't you all know that Hitler's middle name was Tojo? He was an honarary samurai, and very influential in the Japanese government. He inspire the movie 'The Last Samurai'.

They just made the whole world betterm didn't they?

/sarcasm.

Why is it good that the US is a superpower? Now we get blamed for intervening everywhere AND for not acting when someone goes nuts. Now, everthing is our mess.

What happened to Thomas Jefferson's speech on March 4, 1801: "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations – entangling alliances with none."

Considering how militarized our society is and how many lives have been lost in superpower interventionism, the Nazis were only a stepping stone to a much bigger mess.

Indeed - just as there were in Britain. Fortunately they were either ignored or dealt with, although the US business sector still profited handsomely from their nice Nazi partners during the war...

Even Bush's grand daddy... Prescott Bush... he profited from slave labour in Nazi Germany.

They're good for America in the sense that the Black Plague was good for Europe; it caused a massive global paradigm shift that ultimately accelerated the rate of social, economic and political liberalization that had progressed more slowly before the event than after.

However, this does not mean the event in question was good by any means. It is overall certain similar progress would have occured regardless, although the t imeframe may have been significantly different.

I think every time Ambassadorship creates a thread, no one should say anything. Then it'd just stop, and we wouldn't have to deal with the idiocy spawned by it. And Ambassadorship wouldn't get that little feeling of yay-ness she gets by getting people all riled up over purposely stupid comments.


But didn't you all know that Hitler's middle name was Tojo? He was an honarary samurai, and very influential in the Japanese government. He inspire the movie 'The Last Samurai'.
This is ironic since your not even following your rule. You come into my thread, without reading what wrote, just to flame and disrupt. Your luckly you dont get reported. This hasnt spawned idiocy, it spawned a good discussion so please go away.

The OP thinks that Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Chinese.
Bull. It was bombed by the N-Koreans.

He was an above average swimmer.
And when he got tired he could float on his own hot air.

"We all live on a Nazi Submarine
A Nazi Submarine
A Nazi Submarine"
Congrats - I just spit beer on my desk! :D

Bull. It was bombed by the N-Koreans.
You're both wrong. It was those pesky Laotians.

You're both wrong. It was those pesky Laotians.
You forgot Poland.

You're both wrong. It was those pesky Laotians.
I just heard that Bhutan was behind it all. They were initially planning on sending their marines as well. But the jar-heads took a wrong turn and got lost in the Himalayans. So disguised as the Japanese the Bhutanian navy went at it alone. You sure got lucky.

You forgot Poland.
Ah yeah. That never get's old.

I just heard that Bhutan was behind it all. They were initially planning on sending their marines as well. But the jar-heads took a wrong turn and got lost in the Himalayans. So disguised as the Japanese the Bhutanian navy went at it alone. You sure got lucky.
That is true, but they were manipulated by the Mongolians, let by the undead Tamerlane, who had been awoken from his ancient slumber by a team of archaeologists.

Bull. It was bombed by the N-Koreans.

No, by the Jews. No one's blamed them for it yet.

No, by the Jews. No one's blamed them for it yet.
The N-Koreans are Jews.:eek: I knew it!!!

That is true, but they were manipulated by the Mongolians, let by the undead Tamerlane, who had been awoken from his ancient slumber by a team of archaeologists.
Probably N-Koreans!!!

The N-Koreans are Jews.:eek: I knew it!!!


It was a Korean who formed the Moonies, who in turn control the Republican Party and the mass media. And since the media is controlled by the Jews, the deduction is clear: Koreans=Jews! :eek: