George W Bush.
Europa alpha
24-03-2006, 21:38
Junior, not senior.
...
well im sure you can all guess my sentiments on the asshole, why dont you all debate. although i dont think Texans are online at this time so we'll be harddone to find someone to defend him.
Iraq war.
Afghan War.
Looming threat of Iran war.
Not to mention his depressing interior policies.
"No child left behind!"
...
no.
The South Islands
24-03-2006, 21:41
But we have debated this. Over...and over...and over...and over...and over...and over...and over...and over...and over again!
Desperate Measures
24-03-2006, 21:41
My God... there is too much to say... this is much too general....what have you done... pick a fault!!
Bobs Own Pipe
24-03-2006, 21:41
No, no - he's not an asshole... he's the idiot son of an asshole. At least that's what NOFX says. And I believe 'em.
The UN abassadorship
24-03-2006, 21:44
I have no problem defending, Id defend him to the death. Four more years I say. Look, he got the terrorists running in Afghanistan and he's finishing them of in Iraq. Personally Id like to see us take out Iran and the place where Saddams WMDs are, Syria. As far as the homeland stuff, tax cuts really helped the economy, people doing better and aint as poor.
Seosavists
24-03-2006, 21:46
The only thing that I can think of doing in this is waiting for someone to post Bush is a great president and then ask them why. Then be ignored, which is quite convinent for the person who is saying he's great.
why dont you all debate
What is there to debate?
I suggest the importance of spoons in modern day society!
Ginnoria
24-03-2006, 21:47
George W Bush is our kind and benevolent leader, who will triumph over the evil terrorists and keep us safe and secure. Despite the propaganda of liberal traitors, our President is inspired by God, and thus infallible. We must trust in his judgment always, even if that includes allowing our government to spy upon or imprison you without cause; it has a divine mandate, after all. If you disagree you are probably a terrorist, plus you hate Jesus and freedom.
I have no problem defending, Id defend him to the death. Four more years I say. Look, he got the terrorists running in Afghanistan and he's finishing them of in Iraq. Personally Id like to see us take out Iran and the place where Saddams WMDs are, Syria. As far as the homeland stuff, tax cuts really helped the economy, people doing better and aint as poor.
If he got everyone in afghanistan, why are they still fighting. Iraq is just a mess, and personally I think going after Iran and Syria will be a total catastrophe for you guys. And you can't really use the "bring democracy to the middle east" excuse with them since Iran is partially democratic. Also you're worried about Iranian nukes, when their missiles can barely get past Israel (which has a hefty stock of their own nukes with which they can bombard Iran with if they are attacked).
Skinny87
24-03-2006, 21:56
George W Bush is our kind and benevolent leader, who will triumph over the evil terrorists and keep us safe and secure. Despite the propaganda of liberal traitors, our President is inspired by God, and thus infallible. We must trust in his judgment always, even if that includes allowing our government to spy upon or imprison you without cause; it has a divine mandate, after all. If you disagree you are probably a terrorist, plus you hate Jesus and freedom.
Be prepared for US Abassadorship to see your sarcasm fly over his head and think you're supporting him.
*Looks at watch*
Seosavists
24-03-2006, 21:57
I have no problem defending, Id defend him to the death. Four more years I say. Look, he got the terrorists running in Afghanistan and he's finishing them of in Iraq. Personally Id like to see us take out Iran and the place where Saddams WMDs are, Syria. As far as the homeland stuff, tax cuts really helped the economy, people doing better and aint as poor.
He's finishing them off! You mean Mr. Bush is the secret identity of "The big B"!:D
Iran needs change by the next generation(which I'm hearing want a more western-democratic system) not by an outside power, bombings of any nuclear facilities perhaps.
If Syria has the WMD how come there is no evidence(even not very reliable evidence) revealed before the election which would have gotten Bush more votes?
I wouldn't go as far as say the tax cuts "really" helped the economy. and I think the people doing better and not being as poor is probably unrelated if true.
The UN abassadorship
24-03-2006, 21:59
If he got everyone in afghanistan, why are they still fighting. Iraq is just a mess, and personally I think going after Iran and Syria will be a total catastrophe for you guys. And you can't really use the "bring democracy to the middle east" excuse with them since Iran is partially democratic. Also you're worried about Iranian nukes, when their missiles can barely get past Israel (which has a hefty stock of their own nukes with which they can bombard Iran with if they are attacked).
I didnt say got everyone in Afghanistan, they went to Iraq which is why they are there.
The UN abassadorship
24-03-2006, 22:01
George W Bush is our kind and benevolent leader, who will triumph over the evil terrorists and keep us safe and secure. Despite the propaganda of liberal traitors, our President is inspired by God, and thus infallible. We must trust in his judgment always, even if that includes allowing our government to spy upon or imprison you without cause; it has a divine mandate, after all. If you disagree you are probably a terrorist, plus you hate Jesus and freedom.
I dont if he was inspired by god, but you make some good points. His judgement is some of the soundiest Ive seen.
Seosavists
24-03-2006, 22:03
Be prepared for US Abassadorship to see your sarcasm fly over his head and think you're supporting him.
*Looks at watch*
Out of orbit!
I have no problem defending, Id defend him to the death. Four more years I say. Look, he got the terrorists running in Afghanistan and he's finishing them of in Iraq. Personally Id like to see us take out Iran and the place where Saddams WMDs are, Syria. As far as the homeland stuff, tax cuts really helped the economy, people doing better and aint as poor.
You must be joking. And/or in poor taste.
Desperate Measures
24-03-2006, 22:05
. His judgement is some of the soundiest Ive seen.
He's certainly loud...
George W Bush is our kind and benevolent leader, who will triumph over the evil terrorists and keep us safe and secure. Despite the propaganda of liberal traitors, our President is inspired by God, and thus infallible. We must trust in his judgment always, even if that includes allowing our government to spy upon or imprison you without cause; it has a divine mandate, after all. If you disagree you are probably a terrorist, plus you hate Jesus and freedom.
And you a total nutcase. Get a treatment.
(only joking, too)
His [Bush's] judgement is some of the soundiest Ive seen.Is that like saying he speaks with great truthiness? :rolleyes:
Skinny87
24-03-2006, 22:06
And you a total nutcase. Get a treatment.
Psst.
Look at the last line. Methink's he is joking...
Seosavists
24-03-2006, 22:07
And you a total nutcase. Get a treatment.
Over another head!
Darn those edits!
The UN abassadorship
24-03-2006, 22:07
Is that like saying he speaks with great truthiness? :rolleyes:
I not sure, but if that works for you
Is that like saying he speaks with great truthiness? :rolleyes:
Please explainify.
The UN abassadorship
24-03-2006, 22:08
And you a total nutcase. Get a treatment.
(only joking, too)
why would he need treatmeant? for maknig good points?
Seosavists
24-03-2006, 22:09
Please explainify.
He's joking about a typo, UN said soundiest.
Desperate Measures
24-03-2006, 22:09
Please explainify.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness
Psst.
Look at the last line. Methink's he is joking...
Methought's too. Look at the last line.
Skinny87
24-03-2006, 22:10
Methought's too. Look at the last line.
An edit.
I see...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness
Thanks!
That explains everything (but Bush).
Seosavists
24-03-2006, 22:13
An edit.
I see...
...*goes crazy takes out a sword and decapitates Anthil*??
Sorry, I don't know why, but I just got that vision in my head when you said "I see..."
An edit.
I see...
You don't. There no seconds counter. There's still a head though.
Markiria
24-03-2006, 22:14
I Hate Bush I like his 2006 union adress but other than that i hate him. He refured AFICA as a "Country" This is when he first took office. Also he has ruinded the United States reputation. The war is digging its grave. Americans are loosing their jobs. My dads job went to India. And my City Dayton,Ohio economy is be obliterated by his proposals. He is also spending money like a drunken salior!!!
:upyours: Bush!!
George W Bush is our kind and benevolent leader, who will triumph over the evil terrorists and keep us safe and secure. Despite the propaganda of liberal traitors, our President is inspired by God, and thus infallible. We must trust in his judgment always, even if that includes allowing our government to spy upon or imprison you without cause; it has a divine mandate, after all. If you disagree you are probably a terrorist, plus you hate Jesus and freedom.
Is that you Stephen Colbert?
I Hate Bush I like his 2006 union adress but other than that i hate him. He refured AFICA as a "Country" This is when he first took office. Also he has ruinded the United States reputation. The war is digging its grave. Americans are loosing their jobs. My dads job went to India. And my City Dayton,Ohio economy is be obliterated by his proposals. He is also spending money like a drunken salior!!!
:upyours: Bush!!
You'll hurt your throat. Stop it.
Skinny87
24-03-2006, 22:18
You don't. There no seconds counter. There's still a head though.
...
Que?
Deutsche Energie
24-03-2006, 22:19
If he got everyone in afghanistan, why are they still fighting. Iraq is just a mess, and personally I think going after Iran and Syria will be a total catastrophe for you guys. And you can't really use the "bring democracy to the middle east" excuse with them since Iran is partially democratic. Also you're worried about Iranian nukes, when their missiles can barely get past Israel (which has a hefty stock of their own nukes with which they can bombard Iran with if they are attacked).
I am actually just waiting for WWIII.
But hey, I like him, he is a Nazi too.
Lachenburg
24-03-2006, 22:50
Seems like this post only serves to pour another bag of salt on an already salted and bleeding wound.
But that's just my opinion.
The Half-Hidden
24-03-2006, 22:52
Junior, not senior.
...
well im sure you can all guess my sentiments on the asshole, why dont you all debate. although i dont think Texans are online at this time so we'll be harddone to find someone to defend him.
Iraq war.
Afghan War.
Looming threat of Iran war.
Not to mention his depressing interior policies.
"No child left behind!"
...
no.
OLDEST. TOPIC. EVER!
Well, he does deserve some credit for helping to revive the US economy following the 2001 recession. Of course at this point in time it seems those same policies may prove to be economically troublesome although there is still some benefit to be gained.
Boysieland
24-03-2006, 23:59
OK, i'm new to this forum. Surely UN ambassador HAS to be either a troll, or about 14 years old.
Revelling as they do in being so blisteringly opposed to logical conclusions made in light of the facts available. e.g. the thing about tax cuts for the wealthy being good for the economy.
Assuming you are naiive and not just a bit simple, look at the mind bogglingly enormous budget defecit dubya's whitehouse has created. If any country successfully establishes an oil bourse based on any currency other than the US dollar, the US economy will collapse due to massive inflation caused by no longer being able to legitimise all the new dollars it creates with oil transactions.
This, and not any spurious nuclear threat, is the reason for talk of invading Iran.
I don't particularly like Bush, I think he's ran an incompetent, corrupt administration for too long and has an especially irritating habit of cow-towing to the religious right among other things.
However, the one thing that I find even more irritating are those people who can't go for more than three sentences on any political issue without screaming that G.W is the antichrist.
Ginnoria
25-03-2006, 01:22
I don't particularly like Bush, I think he's ran an incompetent, corrupt administration for too long and has an especially irritating habit of cow-towing to the religious right among other things.
However, the one thing that I find even more irritating are those people who can't go for more than three sentences on any political issue without screaming that G.W is the antichrist.
I enjoy cow-towing myself; much like cow-tipping, it is very fun activity to do while drunk. However, it is often difficult to obtain a tow trunk from which to tow the cow. I do not recommend cow-towing with an ordinary automobile; it is possible that you will cause damage to your vehicle as well as the cow.
Tzeentche
25-03-2006, 01:34
i in no way support everything bush has been doing, "no child left behind" is one of the most horribly thought out plans ever, but still, im guessing most of you hate him because of the war? well think about it from this point of view, in case you havent.
9-11 happens, the next day Bush gets on the t.v. and takes no action what so ever to retaliate
god forbid we should fight back, right?
Anyway, iv got a lot of family over in iraq/afgan right now, and according to them its no where near as bad as the media is bsing it to be(could be a lie but whatever)
And for the shots about the economy, you do realize the current president almost never has had any effect on the current state of the economy dont you...? If anything its from how the econmy was doing years before bush came into office that would be causing anything that is just showing up now.
I've gotta wonder whos gonna be blamed for all the problems when Bush is out of office, and who would you have replace him if you had your way?
Tzeentche
25-03-2006, 01:36
oh and for the record, im an atheist when it comes to bushes religous nonsense, and im not democrat or republican.
Tzeentche
27-03-2006, 01:48
no comment...?
not even a flame?
The Jovian Moons
27-03-2006, 01:54
I suggest the importance of spoons in modern day society!
Ok.
Spoons are a critical part of western culture for several reasons. One they are the main untensil used durring breakfast the most important meal of the day. Also they can be used to eat ice cream which is a major part of the economy. Finally they can be used to cover one's nose for no aparent reason. In conclusion spoons are a important to our culture because of the food and fun they bring to us.
(can you tell I should be writing my reasearch paper now?)
And there was no George W Bush Sr. just George H Bush and his idiot son. I liked the first one though. He didn't really screw anything up. Too far to the right economicly for my tastes but you can't win them all.
And for the shots about the economy, you do realize the current president almost never has had any effect on the current state of the economy dont you...? If anything its from how the econmy was doing years before bush came into office that would be causing anything that is just showing up now.
That is true; many of the problems today were a direct result of the mid to late 90's boom. For an easy example, the problems at GM and Ford would have occured several years earlier than they did if gas were not so cheap during the 90's due to demand destruction, and the pension crisis would have also hit earlier had the stock market not performed so well.
George W Bush is our kind and benevolent leader, who will triumph over the evil terrorists and keep us safe and secure. Despite the propaganda of liberal traitors, our President is inspired by God, and thus infallible. We must trust in his judgment always, even if that includes allowing our government to spy upon or imprison you without cause; it has a divine mandate, after all. If you disagree you are probably a terrorist, plus you hate Jesus and freedom.
Long live the glorious leader!
Long live the glorious leader!
Talking about Bush will only ruin everyone's mood. Just have some tacos and relax! :)
*hands out tacos*
Talking about Bush will only ruin everyone's mood. Just have some tacos and relax! :)
*hands out tacos*
Does this constitute a bribe...Hell no, bribes are evil! And as we all know tacos are FAR from evil!
The Atlantian islands
27-03-2006, 02:54
Long live the glorious leader!
Sieg heil, mein Fuhrer!
Anyway I think he was being sarcastic...even I dont like Bush THAT much.
Tzeentche
27-03-2006, 05:39
damn, i was excepting to get flamed by that post, guess you cant argue with an unbiased view eh?
George W Bush is our kind and benevolent leader, who will triumph over the evil terrorists and keep us safe and secure. Despite the propaganda of liberal traitors, our President is inspired by God, and thus infallible. We must trust in his judgment always, even if that includes allowing our government to spy upon or imprison you without cause; it has a divine mandate, after all. If you disagree you are probably a terrorist, plus you hate Jesus and freedom.
You sir, win the internet. Twice.
Ginnoria
27-03-2006, 06:01
You sir, win the internet. Twice.
Why, thank you. *accepts internet*
Straughn
27-03-2006, 08:43
I have no problem defending, Id defend him to the death.
The death of millions of little innocent swimmers? :eek:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10611096&postcount=89
Straughn
27-03-2006, 08:53
However, the one thing that I find even more irritating are those people who can't go for more than three sentences on any political issue without screaming that G.W is the antichrist.
Haven't the "antichrist" proponents already pretty much settled the issue about Bush not being him, since the power would be consolidated for it while *it* held near unanimous approval and likability, PLUS the "antichrist"'s intelligence? Bush never had it and never merited it, and it's evermore painfully obvious right now.
Straughn
27-03-2006, 08:55
Talking about Bush will only ruin everyone's mood. Just have some tacos and relax! :)
*hands out tacos*
Hey, that's Lunatic "Flesh Skep" Goofballs' job!
Splitter!
Straughn
27-03-2006, 08:56
OLDEST. TOPIC. EVER!
See:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10632936&postcount=32
Hey, that's Lunatic "Flesh Skep" Goofballs' job!
Splitter!
Hey he can't be everywhere all the time. Someone has to help out in the needed service of taco giving! ;)
Seosavists
27-03-2006, 17:11
Ok.
Spoons are a critical part of western culture for several reasons. One they are the main untensil used durring breakfast the most important meal of the day. Also they can be used to eat ice cream which is a major part of the economy. Finally they can be used to cover one's nose for no aparent reason. In conclusion spoons are a important to our culture because of the food and fun they bring to us.
(can you tell I should be writing my reasearch paper now?)
Excellant can only agree!
(Is your research paper on spoons? If so then you shouldn't if not then you should.)
Hey he can't be everywhere all the time.
That's a damned lie and you know it!
Straughn
28-03-2006, 04:20
Hey he can't be everywhere all the time. Someone has to help out in the needed service of taco giving! ;)
True, and i imagine that i'm more of the problem and not the solution :(
Ginnoria
28-03-2006, 04:29
The death of millions of little innocent swimmers? :eek:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10611096&postcount=89
If you get that on tape, put it on Limewire and let me know.
Straughn
28-03-2006, 06:39
If you get that on tape, put it on Limewire and let me know.
No problem. If s/he's a republican, it won't take much $ coercion.
But perhaps i'm judging too hastily - i shouldn't judge that someone hasn't already made that arrangement with The UN abassadorship.
Someone here probably knows!
Gui de Lusignan
28-03-2006, 06:49
OK, i'm new to this forum. Surely UN ambassador HAS to be either a troll, or about 14 years old.
Revelling as they do in being so blisteringly opposed to logical conclusions made in light of the facts available. e.g. the thing about tax cuts for the wealthy being good for the economy.
Assuming you are naiive and not just a bit simple, look at the mind bogglingly enormous budget defecit dubya's whitehouse has created. If any country successfully establishes an oil bourse based on any currency other than the US dollar, the US economy will collapse due to massive inflation caused by no longer being able to legitimise all the new dollars it creates with oil transactions.
This, and not any spurious nuclear threat, is the reason for talk of invading Iran.
Budget Defecit ? if u want to talk about economy.. i would point to the unemployment rate, the GDP growth, the stockmarket, productivity statistics... budget deficits are one small aspect of an otherwise wide and expansive issue.
Straughn
28-03-2006, 07:01
Budget Defecit ? if u want to talk about economy.. i would point to the unemployment rate, the GDP growth, the stockmarket, productivity statistics... budget deficits are one small aspect of an otherwise wide and expansive issue.
On the topic ...
*ahem*
http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1740189,00.html
Duff hand means a tough call for Bernanke
New Fed chief has little room to manoeuvre to engineer a soft landing
Larry Elliott, economics editor
Monday March 27, 2006
The Guardian
Ben Bernanke must be hoping history won't repeat itself. The last changing of the guard at the US Federal Reserve was followed by a stock market crash three months later. The new Fed chairman is charged with engineering a slowdown in the US economy without a crash.
Interest rates have risen at 14 successive meetings and tomorrow Bernanke has to decide whether to make it 15 at his first meeting of the open market committee. Few on Wall Street are betting against a quarter-point rise, and most expect a further rise at the next meeting to take the Fed Funds rate to 5%. After all, the US economy is growing strongly, inflation has picked up and Bernanke - like any central banker - will want to show he is no soft touch.
..
The importance of debt to finance US consumption can be seen from the chart of real personal disposable incomes (RPDI). This adjusts increases in earnings for inflation. With pay rises capped and inflation rising, RPDI has been squeezed. Rising energy prices have meant discretionary spending - what's left after the regular monthly bills are paid - has been squeezed still more.
Big trouble
Every time in the past 25 years that the RPDI has been this weak, it has signalled recession. The monetary tightening applied by the Bank of England in 2003-04 suggests it doesn't take much to cause a pronounced slowdown in the housing market if it is desperately over-stretched in the first place.
That rising short-term interest rates potentially spell big trouble for American homeowners was clear from Friday's figures for new home sales in the US. The 10.5% drop in February was the biggest for nine years and the median price of the homes offloaded fell by almost 3%. The inventory of unsold homes rose sharply. The obvious conclusion is that the excess of supply over demand will cause house prices to carry on falling over the coming months, and that consumers will respond by cutting back on their spending.
In the event that the US housing market fell sharply, policy makers would seek to respond. As far as fiscal policy is concerned, George Bush has turned the hefty surplus he inherited from Bill Clinton into a 3% deficit, so the scope for a further boost from higher spending or lower taxes is limited. The Fed could - and would - cut interest rates, but it is questionable whether an easing of monetary policy would have that much of an effect. Consumers are up to their eyeballs in debt and have already re-mortgaged once; it is questionable whether they will be willing or able to take on extra borrowing, particularly if there is rising unemployment.
To make matters even trickier, it takes time for a tightening of policy to have its full effect, but not even the smartest central banker can say for sure how long it will take to slow things down. With hindsight, it may become clear that interest rates are already high enough for a soft landing, but Bernanke does not have the benefit of hindsight. If he calls a halt to rate rises too soon he risks pushing up inflation; if he leaves it too late he risks monetary overkill.
...
Wide and expansive is one way of putting it, it would seem. ;)
Corporate britain
28-03-2006, 07:24
George W Bush is our kind and benevolent leader, who will triumph over the evil terrorists and keep us safe and secure. Despite the propaganda of liberal traitors, our President is inspired by God, and thus infallible. We must trust in his judgment always, even if that includes allowing our government to spy upon or imprison you without cause; it has a divine mandate, after all. If you disagree you are probably a terrorist, plus you hate Jesus and freedom.
First of all, I'd like to say shut up. You have clearly been brainwashed by this guy and God. God has nothing to do with it, and if he's inspired by God, then God must clearly be an idiot. And, believe it or not, NOT EVERY ONE IS A CHRISTIAN. "Infallible", eh. Are you aware this man is the MOST hated man on the planet. Statistics show that he is more hated than the terrorists themselves. Do you even know why terrorists attack? Because he is some uncharismatic power hungry capitalist that uses his corruptness to attack other foreign countries. He is also incredibly stupid. Have you ever read any of his speeches? he contradicts himself and does not always make sense.
Before rambling on about God and Bush being a "kind and benelovant leader", just consider the fact that if he is so kind, why is he introducing violence and war to other countries. He isn't driving terrorists away - he's provoking them. Nothing has got better since the Iraq war and so on, if anything there's just been more fatalities. And in fact, I love freedom. Do you think that killing innocent people and going to war is allowing freedom? Do you think sending innocent people out into foreign countries to kill and be killed is promoting freedom? I seriously suggest you look this word up. :headbang:
If this quote was just sarcasm... GOOD ONE :D
Straughn
28-03-2006, 10:29
First of all, I'd like to say shut up. You have clearly been brainwashed by this guy and God. God has nothing to do with it, and if he's inspired by God, then God must clearly be an idiot.
So you aren't convinced to tithe with your taxes and soul to him when he says this little number ...?:
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job." —Shrubya, to a group of Amish, Lancaster, PA - July 9, 2004
He is also incredibly stupid. Have you ever read any of his speeches? he contradicts himself and does not always make sense.Case in point ...:
"I wish you'd have given me this written question ahead of time so I could plan for it…I'm sure something will pop into my head here in the midst of this press conference, with all the pressure of trying to come up with answer, but it hadn't yet….I don't want to sound like I have made no mistakes. I'm confident I have. I just haven't — you just put me under the spot here, and maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with one." —George W. Bush, after being asked to name the biggest mistake he had made, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2004
Before rambling on about God and Bush being a "kind and benelovant leader", just consider the fact that if he is so kind, why is he introducing violence and war to other countries. He isn't driving terrorists away - he's provoking them.
Let's see if the ol' history quotes have anything to corroborate your assessment ...
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." —Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
Well, that's one ...
"I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace." —Washington, D.C. June 18, 2002
That would probably be two, followed by ...
"My answer is bring them on." —on Iraqi insurgents attacking U.S. forces, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003
-Shrubya
If this quote was just sarcasm... GOOD ONE :DIt would appear otherwise :eek:
I see George Bush the same way I see Homer Simpson. He's an insensitive moron, but for some reason I can't help liking him partly due to his Bushism speeches and he occasionally has flashes of brilliance.
The Iraq war was good when it was new, but now it's a complete debacle and has become another Vietnam, and I can see it was a huge mistake, or at least could have been pulled off better, although I don't know how. But there is no doubt that it was "right". Sure, we may have gone into the war on false pretexts of WMDs, but we removed an evil dictator from power, and that has to be worth something. Most of the Iraqis getting killed aren't by Americans, they're by their fellow countrymen who are supposedly "freedom fighters"
Straughn
28-03-2006, 11:23
I see George Bush the same way I see Homer Simpson. He's an insensitive moron, but for some reason I can't help liking him partly due to his Bushism speeches and he occasionally has flashes of brilliance.
The Iraq war was good when it was new, but now it's a complete debacle and has become another Vietnam, and I can see it was a huge mistake, or at least could have been pulled off better, although I don't know how. But there is no doubt that it was "right". Sure, we may have gone into the war on false pretexts of WMDs, but we removed an evil dictator from power, and that has to be worth something. Most of the Iraqis getting killed aren't by Americans, they're by their fellow countrymen who are supposedly "freedom fighters"
Perhaps there should be a "Homer Simpson: Bush-style president?" thread. I'll post that.
Europa alpha
28-03-2006, 12:37
George Bush makes baby jesus cry.
Hitler on wikipedia isnt subject to vandalism, but George Bush is :D
WOW
Shows how popular he is.
Tzeentche
28-03-2006, 22:02
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First of all, I'd like to say shut up. You have clearly been brainwashed by this guy and God. God has nothing to do with it, and if he's inspired by God, then God must clearly be an idiot. And, believe it or not, NOT EVERY ONE IS A CHRISTIAN. "Infallible", eh. Are you aware this man is the MOST hated man on the planet. Statistics show that he is more hated than the terrorists themselves. Do you even know why terrorists attack? Because he is some uncharismatic power hungry capitalist that uses his corruptness to attack other foreign countries. He is also incredibly stupid. Have you ever read any of his speeches? he contradicts himself and does not always make sense.
Before rambling on about God and Bush being a "kind and benelovant leader", just consider the fact that if he is so kind, why is he introducing violence and war to other countries. He isn't driving terrorists away - he's provoking them. Nothing has got better since the Iraq war and so on, if anything there's just been more fatalities. And in fact, I love freedom. Do you think that killing innocent people and going to war is allowing freedom? Do you think sending innocent people out into foreign countries to kill and be killed is promoting freedom? I seriously suggest you look this word up.
O rly?
First of all sweet pea, i'd like to say shut up.I suppose ill just go about my typical job of picking apart arguments piece by piece?
"I'd like to say shut up. You have clearly been brainwashed by this guy and God."
True. And you have clearly been brainwashed by listening to your undoubtedly democratic parents babbling about bush and his "failures", allthough one must admit there have been many short comings. Yet more reason to knock down onfreedom of speech and while were at it, remove the whole democrat and republican parties, maybe then people could make unbiased opinions via logic.
" God has nothing to do with it, and if he's inspired by God, then God must clearly be an idiot. "
True. God is non-existant, an ingenius tool i must confess, allow me to point out the supreme power religion has over people. My moter for example, a christian, poor woman, typically extremly open minded, when it comes to someting as trivial as being gay you're already hell bound in her sad mind. And true, god would clearly be as much of an idiot as your illogical ranting. And may i point out Bush's brilliant move of wearing his religion on his sleave, garnering votes from many christians?
"And, believe it or not, NOT EVERY ONE IS A CHRISTIAN. "Infallible", eh. Are you aware this man is the MOST hated man on the planet."
No. I'm sure s/he has no idea that there are other major religions on our world, eh. Are you aware that the media hypes up every news story with any relation to the war to gain more attention? People love bad news, it draws them. Why must you people take things so blindly, do some investigating, or at least think.
"Statistics show that he is more hated than the terrorists themselves. Do you even know why terrorists attack? Because he is some uncharismatic power hungry capitalist that uses his corruptness to attack other foreign countries."
Brilliant. Truly astounding, i applaud your lack of vision. Show me a source, or was this just something thrown from the top of your head to support your argument? What does being a capitalist have to do with being attacked on grounds of a religion, praising a false figure of power. And last i checked the Middle East wasn't about communism, and may i also say...America is a capitalist society, gee, who would have guessed? How is he corrupt. I admit many things he believes and acts upon are pointless and irrelevant in the grand scheme but to say hes corrupt...? Uncharismatic, I for one find his speeches very entertaining.
"He is also incredibly stupid. Have you ever read any of his speeches? he contradicts himself and does not always make sense."
Beautiful. I can't not acknowledge the fact, there are many men that out shine his intelligence. Hey, who would have quessed, did you know quite often, the president doesn't write his own speeches? True though, his phrasing does minimize the effectivness of his speeches at times.
"Before rambling on about God and Bush being a "kind and benelovant leader", just consider the fact that if he is so kind, why is he introducing violence and war to other countries."
Firstly, if you couldn't immediatly recognize the original quote was utter sarcasm, then who are you to call another man stupid? And the phrase, kind and *benevolant* leader would suggest that Bush ran the country on his own. This is no dictatorship my friend. Introducing violence to other countries you say? The Middle East has been plauged by violence through out mankinds rule. Do a little research before you make accusations, it helps you form valid ones. And god forbid we should attack backj, right? Cause you know, ramming 2 of our own planes into our towers doesn't justify any sort of retaliation. Brilliant.
"He isn't driving terrorists away - he's provoking them. Nothing has got better since the Iraq war and so on, if anything there's just been more fatalities."
O rly? Tell me, when was the point of "The War on Terror" to drive terrorists away, the point was to ahnilliate them. Ok, do me a favor, go over to Iraq and then let me know if things are better or worse. Or atleast get a few words from soldiers who have fought/fighting in the war. And the fatlaties are from the enemies of the U.S., surely you arent suggesting we should refrain from killing hostile enemies, religion bent on destroying all other ways of life. And what difference is the loss of the uneducated and ignorant. Tell me.
"And in fact, I love freedom. Do you think that killing innocent people and going to war is allowing freedom? Do you think sending innocent people out into foreign countries to kill and be killed is promoting freedom? I seriously suggest you look this word up."
Do you think these people promote freedom? Do you think people in the east meant the terrorists attacks as peace offerings? How many times in history through outthe ages has freedom been held without being attacked and in need of defense. A resounding never my friend. Enjoy your freedom, may the biased and dim witted be free to spread illogical non-sense.
Oh look, your argument has just been rendered null and void. Please, i encourage you to debate this point, if you'd rather do it over something like AIM let me know, i'd be more the happy to educate a fellow man.
Fear the logic of the unbiased man.
Straughn
29-03-2006, 04:01
*blabbityblaboo*....
Fear the logic of the unbiased man.
...but, Don't Fear The Reaper.
Tzeentche
29-03-2006, 12:16
Nice bit of random Blue oyster cult hm?
Straughn
30-03-2006, 05:24
Nice bit of random Blue oyster cult hm?
They're ON TOUR again :eek:
Seattle and/or Portland IIRC.
Myotisinia
30-03-2006, 05:37
They're ON TOUR again :eek:
Seattle and/or Portland IIRC.
Cool. Buck Dharma is one of my heroes.
Straughn
30-03-2006, 06:12
Cool. Buck Dharma is one of my heroes.
http://www.blueoystercult.com/Road/OnTour.html
April:
29 Tacoma, WA Emerald Queen Casino
30 Portland, OR Roseland Theatre
-there's a LOT more, perhaps closer to your location.
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As per the current line-up (or so it appears):
http://www.blueoystercult.com/Band-main.html
N'joy!
The Archregimancy
30-03-2006, 06:24
There is a bush in my garden. Here in Australia, it is autumn, and the leaves on the bush will turn brown. Then it will be winter, and the bush will appear to die. But then will come spring and the bush will flower again. But I do not hate the bush. Nor do I love the bush. I do like to watch the bush.
This analysis of the Bush Administration has been brought to you by Chauncey Gardiner
Tzeentche
30-03-2006, 06:38
I love how with my post, this turned from a Bush bash to a blue oyster cult discussion.
Galliam Returned
30-03-2006, 06:44
Greatest President ever. Hands down, no contest. -_-
Straughn
30-03-2006, 06:46
I love how with my post, this turned from a Bush bash to a blue oyster cult discussion.
You never really know what'll happen on a forum like this one.
That, and i'm synonymous with "'jack. ;)
Almost every single day, there's a Bush post in circulation. You just gave an angle to providing a new avenue ...
Straughn
30-03-2006, 06:48
Greatest President ever. Hands down, no contest. -_-
Hands down where? In my pockets? Keeping my interest in the thread "erect"? Taking my bus fare?
:rolleyes: