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Ive made some alterations and clarifications to my policies and i would like to hear the general opinion.
(Disincluding tactical voting, would my policies make you vote for me.)

Intellectual Socialist Party
For the millions Not the millionaires, For Liberty Not oppression, For Intelligence Not Ignorance.



Policies

BUSINESS
Ban Private Healthcare.
Ban Private Schooling
Minimum wage rise.
Corporation tax increase for international corporations.
Small-Business subsidy to counter Average wage rise, paid for by Corporation Tax rise.
Start an account for excess funds of the government to buy up key industries.
NATIONAL
Change National Anthem. Rule Britannia.
Uncompulsorize Welsh
Politics introduced into National Curriculum, PSE lessons start earlier to cover this.
Voting Age 16.
Children attend compulsory school 1 year earlier.
Review Devolutionary Powers, grant more or less accordingly.
Referendum Euro.
Homeless shelters MarkII. Self sustaining shelters, count as an address. No tax. Spartan living conditions, Must repay eventually (Like student loans) only 5% of income may be used on Vices. (Drink, Cigarettes Ect.) temporary solution, closed to those who do not search for jobs.


PRIVET LIFE
Rise minimum age of smoking by one year every year until it dies out.
Legalize Gay Marriage, recognize in every way (Other than religious)
Criminalize all hard drugs and soft drugs, but for addicts they can be taken slowly off the drug and put into rehab voluntarily.
Alcohol legal at 16
Total Ban on Guns for Civilian usage.
Homeland defence. No amount of harm is too grievous when issued against a criminal, however once the criminal is unconscious, bound or disabled any further acts are criminal.

No Hunting.

Freedom of Speech.
Full Freedom of speech.
Grant police leniency toward retaliation

Home Defence—Against an armed robber, no force is too great, against an Unarmed robber, warn first then attempt to disable, if accidental injury occurs no blame will be placed unless it is painfully obvious it was intended.

To actively discriminate against an Individual because of there Colour, Creed, Sex, Religion or Sexual Preference Is unlawful.

Referendum Euthanasia.

IMMIGRATION

Open Door Policy to all War, Genocide, Famine, Natural Disaster victims, ask them if they want redirection to another country.

Open door policy to all English speaking persons.

Closed Door Policy to all others.

Must be able to speak English to a certain degree, unless immigrants under the first clause.

Temporary Immigration housing provided for all War and Genocide victims.

FOREIGN POLICY

Praise Commonwealth Nations, offer firm Alliances and Trade Pacts.

Offer Alliances and Trade pacts. with Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Cuba.

Open Trade with Cuba.

Review Falklands.

PRO Europe.

Possibility of European Language being agreed upon.

TAX

Mp Wage Cut. 10%. Direct to Education.

Reduce government luxury spending by the maximum amount possible.

Stick to Current tax system otherwise, If in Deficit Increase Income Tax for the Wealthiest Bracket of Society.

Due to the Average wage rise, extra money is to be spent cancelling the deficit.


ELECTIONS
Introduce a more liberal system of voting, which allows better representation of the peoples will, Possibly the Single Transferable Vote system, even though this does tend to aid the more Centrist Parties.
OR Local VS National elections where you could vote for say, I.S.P but desire a Communist councillor.

DEFENCE
Women allowed on frontlines.
Review National Service.
Try to get firm alliances and trade pacts with Canada and all the Commonwealth nations.
Try to get firm alliances and trade pacts with the southern and central America’s
Try and find a more effective and equal system to run the army

LORDS.
Recognise hereditary titles but strip powers.
Greatly reduce Lords powers, but allow them to appeal to the commons when ether they desire. They can have press coverage to appeal to the people.

MONARCHY
Abolish law that states a King cannot marry a catholic.

CONSTITUENCY REFERENDUM
Constituencies may referendum to the council on the following things
Religion Income tax.
Museum\Art Gallery Subsidy tax.
Criminal community service.
Castration and or execution of PROVEN sex criminals.

CRIMINALS
For minor crimes favour rehabilitation.
For major crimes favour deterring criminals.
For Sex Crimes (See constituency.)
Criminals shall do manual labour for the community. (See Constituency Refendum)

ECOLOGY
The I.S.P recognises with dawning horror that Oil reserves will run out very very soon, estimated 2020 and as such will spare no expense in researching and supplying alternative fuels.

No seriously :)
Me and a few friends who share my ideals are gonna make a political party and run for office.
Mainly wales but we hope to expand by election number 2 to the whole of the U.K except N.I (which has its own politics)

(Snip)

Intellectual Socialist Party
For the millions Not the millionaires, For Liberty Not oppression, For Intelligence Not Ignorance.

(Snip)


Love your slogan, especially the "For the millions Not the millionaires" bit

The I.S.P recognises with dawning horror that Oil reserves will run out very very soon, estimated 2020 and as such will spare no expense in researching and supplying alternative fuels.
Where did you get that estimate from? It's not even accurate at current usage levels. Besides, as oil becomes scarcer, prices will rise and usage will decrease, making the remaining supplies last ever longer.

Where did you get that estimate from? It's not even accurate at current usage levels. Besides, as oil becomes scarcer, prices will rise and usage will decrease, making the remaining supplies last ever longer.

I was informed of the estimate, i admit i do not know the source.
But the I.S.P still feels a substitute is needed to oil, if its not our generation that sorts it out it will be our children and we've left enough work for them without this as well. Its time to shape up! Vote ISP!

PRIVET LIFE...

I'm glad to see you take hedges seriously.

Where I come from people tend to set fire to them.

... (makes note)
(Hedges, burning ban?!?!!!?)

Hahha i just scared terry pratchett fans :D!!!!!

I was informed of the estimate, i admit i do not know the source.
But the I.S.P still feels a substitute is needed to oil,
Certainly. I was just being overly critical, as I have a habit of doing.

Certainly. I was just being overly critical, as I have a habit of doing.

...:eek: (burns documents)

You claim to be pro liberty I believe the following statements directly infringe upon liberty (and many others do because I believe taxation does).


BUSINESS
Ban Private Healthcare.
Ban Private Schooling
Minimum wage rise.

PRIVET LIFE
Rise minimum age of smoking by one year every year until it dies out.
Criminalize all hard drugs and soft drugs, but for addicts they can be taken slowly off the drug and put into rehab voluntarily.
Total Ban on Guns for Civilian usage.
No Hunting.
To actively discriminate against an Individual because of there Colour, Creed, Sex, Religion or Sexual Preference Is unlawful.

IMMIGRATION
Closed Door Policy to all others.
Must be able to speak English to a certain degree, unless immigrants under the first clause.
Temporary Immigration housing provided for all War and Genocide victims.

FOREIGN POLICY
PRO Europe.

TAX
Mp Wage Cut. 10%. Direct to Education.
Stick to Current tax system otherwise, If in Deficit Increase Income Tax for the Wealthiest Bracket of Society.

DEFENCE
Review National Service.

You claim to be pro liberty I believe the following statements directly infringe upon liberty (and many others do because I believe taxation does).


BUSINESS
Ban Private Healthcare.
Ban Private Schooling
Minimum wage rise.

PRIVET LIFE
Rise minimum age of smoking by one year every year until it dies out.
Criminalize all hard drugs and soft drugs, but for addicts they can be taken slowly off the drug and put into rehab voluntarily.
Total Ban on Guns for Civilian usage.
No Hunting.
To actively discriminate against an Individual because of there Colour, Creed, Sex, Religion or Sexual Preference Is unlawful.

IMMIGRATION
Closed Door Policy to all others.
Must be able to speak English to a certain degree, unless immigrants under the first clause.
Temporary Immigration housing provided for all War and Genocide victims.

FOREIGN POLICY
PRO Europe.

TAX
Mp Wage Cut. 10%. Direct to Education.
Stick to Current tax system otherwise, If in Deficit Increase Income Tax for the Wealthiest Bracket of Society.

DEFENCE
Review National Service.

A good statement noted and taken into consideration.
(Mp talk for "Go home and think about what you have done.)

We agree some of out policies are technically anti-liberal but out general outlook is a Sexually-Lifestyle liberal while being Vices and Taxes conservative.

(pulls a cheap shot)


The current government of Britain has lost sight of its ideology!
They are constantly making a dash for the center ground in a vain and populist attempt to remain in power, there is little or no difference in what the parties stand for anymore, the ISP will never lose sight of its ideology.
The government has prostituted itself to the Americans, the ISP recognises a balance between europe and america is needed, we will not shame the country like the Iraq war did, we will not waste time resources and innocent lives on Oil-Shopping, we are a strictly War-Last-Resort ideological group.
The conservatives are a dying breed, when they go the Liberals are not organised enough to pose a good opposistion, that leaves us with a power-vacuum, the ISP proposes we should be the opposistion and eventually the incumbents, we promise you we will try as hard as we can to force through as many policies as we can.

Criminalize all hard drugs and soft drugs, but for addicts they can be taken slowly off the drug and put into rehab voluntarily.
Alcohol legal at 16
In the words of Bill Hicks:
'Let's all be hypocritical bastards! It's OK if you drink your drug!'

Oy! I'm glad I don't live in the United Kingdom.

In the words of Bill Hicks:
'Let's all be hypocritical bastards! It's OK if you drink your drug!'

Hehe.
We recognise the controversy of these policies but do impress upon you the cultural difference between Drugs and Alcohol.
(not to mention all party members are vodka lovers.) :eek: (burns documents)

The point is, Drugs affect the mind a lot more than alcohol does.
Long term AND short term.
Everyone knows the symptoms of alcohol and how to treat it, drug knowledge is nowhere near as good

Oy! I'm glad I don't live in the United Kingdom.

Oh, believe me. If these nutters ever got into power, I'd be one of the first rioting in the streets and leading an armed protest.

Oy! I'm glad I don't live in the United Kingdom.

I wouldn't worry, it's not very likely to get anywhere.

Cultural difference? In many parts of the world drugs such as marijuana, opium and mushrooms have been used for several millenia. Who are we to reject it now on the grounds of protecting people, and yet keep legal the drug with the worst social impact, that causes violence, is implicated in large percentages of road accidents and cases of domestic violence etc? I'm not for restricting alcohol though, I mean I drink enough of it, but to see policies of lowering drink age but reaffirming drugs prohibition... smacks of rank hypocrisy.
What drugs have you taken to judge the relative impact on the mind?
Oh and as for mental problems, check this one out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korsakoff%27s_SyndromeDrink enough and you could end up like the guy from Memento.

Oh, believe me. If these nutters ever got into power, I'd be one of the first rioting in the streets and leading an armed protest.

Point is people were saying that if Labour got in!

Point is people were saying that if Labour got in!

I don't think Labour were quite as extreme as this new party.

I don't think Labour were quite as extreme as this new party.

Thats the idea.
Labour--->Centrist traitors.
ISP---> Ideological Lefties.

If you made it so Welsh wasn't compulsery the language would slowly die out, thats not a good thing.

A couple of your policies are good, but most are, to put it lightly, excrement. Don't expect my vote. Ever.

A couple of your policies are good, but most are, to put it lightly, excrement. Don't expect my vote. Ever.

Which ones pray tell.

ISP?

Do us a favour, just another bunch of dumb socialists.

Great vote ISP and lose an entire economy, perhaps we would all die of AIDS first though....

Not more bloody socialists. Learn about economics and the real world, then come back and try again. The last thing we really need are a bunch of authoritarian (seriously - gun bans, hunting bans, bans on setting up private schools and hospitals? this is awful) socialists who will ruin our economy and destroy our socially and economically liberal way of life.

If you made it so Welsh wasn't compulsery the language would slowly die out, thats not a good thing.
Why? If it is only kept alive by forcing people to learn it against their wishes then why does it matter if it dies out? Clearly no one cares? Either that or some people do care and they can and will continue to speak it of their own free will.

Which ones pray tell.

Good stuff:

Change National Anthem. Rule Britannia. (Not really a big policy, though. I just prefer Rule Britannia.)
Politics introduced into National Curriculum, PSE lessons start earlier to cover this.
Referendum Euro.
Legalize Gay Marriage, recognize in every way (Other than religious)
Full Freedom of speech
Some other stuff, I just can't be bothered to divide up all of your policies into good and bad.
PRO Europe.
The I.S.P recognises with dawning horror that Oil reserves will run out very very soon, estimated 2020 and as such will spare no expense in researching and supplying alternative fuels (I don't trust your estimate, but its still a good idea.)

Bad stuff:

Ban Private Healthcare.
Ban Private Schooling
Start an account for excess funds of the government to buy up key industries.
Criminalize all hard drugs and soft drugs, but for addicts they can be taken slowly off the drug and put into rehab voluntarily.
Grant police leniency toward retaliation (depends on how you go with this one. It looks like it could legalise vigilante "justice".)
Possibility of European Language being agreed upon. (Remember Esperanto? Thought not.)
Try and find a more effective and equal system to run the army (depends on what you mean. This seems incredibly vague).
Castration and or execution of PROVEN sex criminals


I disagree with quite a few of your ideas, but some just need clearing up. I have a hatred for vague policy. You do have some good ideas, but there are other parties that I'd rather vote for.

No seriously :)
Me and a few friends who share my ideals are gonna make a political party and run for office.
Mainly wales but we hope to expand by election number 2 to the whole of the U.K except N.I (which has its own politics)

You realise that to stand in an election you have to give a £500 deposit which you won't get back unless you get 5% of the votes cast.

You realise that to stand in an election you have to give a £500 deposit which you won't get back unless you get 5% of the votes cast.

Yup.
we did a collection thing. :D

PRO Europe.

Castration and or execution of PROVEN sex criminals.

You do realise that these two are mutually contradicting don't you? When we joined the EU we signed away our right to execute or inflict corporal punishment on criminals.

First of all, you call youreselves the "Intellectual Socialist Party" or ISP for short. Doesn't that intellectualism you espouse seemingly contradict your motto?

Oh, and since you're called ISP, will you begin to provide internet access soon? :p

Reviving the death penalty, banning smoking and private health institutions, banning all gun ownership and all hunting make your party decidedly FOR oppression.

Also, despite numerous comments on this during previous drafts of your political philosophy, you continue to mis-spell the word "private", whilst maintaining that you're an "intellectual". This isn't really the worst of your problems regarding your political ideas, but it does make you look dumber.