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Anybod here getting/got this amazing game? My pre-order of the collectors edition arrived this morning (AFTER FIVE MONTHS). Just the box is cooler than every game ever. Chuck Norris might not even roundhouse kick it.

I've got a couple of other games that I'm going to go through first (primarily Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy, great game) but it's definitely on my must-have list. I just hope my PC can handle it...

I'm definately changing graphics cards in my PC before I even think about installing.

I got the slight feeling my 750 MHz comp with its Riva TNT2 will not be up to it, so: No, I won´t get it.

I got the slight feeling my 750 MHz comp with its Riva TNT2 will not be up to it, so: No, I won´t get it.

Exact same specs as my old PC. Well, as far as I can tell from that, anyway.

Well, it´s a PIII, at least ;)
Morrowwind already raped my comp, so I won´t give Pt. IV a chance. Instead, I hope one of my fiscally gifted friends is gonna it, so I can move in there.

I already have it, for PC. I only played it for twenty minutes over my lunch break, but I'm already hooked. The graphics are pretty darned awesome, but at maximum they're not quite what they were cracked up to be, particularly the character models. The faces themselves are pretty detailed, but it's the rest of them that's the problem.

My old PC must have had dinosaurs nesting in it.

What's character creation like? I can't play the damned game for a few days (birthday present), but I really want to know.

I got it Tuesday, so far so good. I've got it for the xbox 360 I don't think my computer would have run it.

I have it and have started playing it. It's definitely a gorgeous game, but I have to say I think Morrowind was better, mostly for gameplay reasons. I'll wait until I've actually played the whole game before I pass judgement, but that's my initial view.

As soon as I install it I want to find some vampires, just to see what they look like now.

I hope I can play it on my 6600 GT. Might be able to get it to grind along at 10FPS on very low settings >_>

My old PC must have had dinosaurs nesting in it.

What's character creation like? I can't play the damned game for a few days (birthday present), but I really want to know.

Character creation is amongst the most detailed I've ever seen. I haven't gotten to the part where you select a class or anything yet. But you can pretty much change the size, shape, position and colour of anything on your face, select from a decent number of hairstyles, change your species, complexion and even age. It's definitely amongst the best, certainly heaps better than its predecessor in this particular department. As you'd expect, really.

My old PC must have had dinosaurs nesting in it.

What's character creation like? I can't play the damned game for a few days (birthday present), but I really want to know.

Character creation is obscene.

I have it and have started playing it. It's definitely a gorgeous game, but I have to say I think Morrowind was better, mostly for gameplay reasons. I'll wait until I've actually played the whole game before I pass judgement, but that's my initial view.

I personally prefer this so far, on PC at least (I don't know what the XBox version is like, I haven't had a console since the Mega Drive was popular). I could never really get used to the controls of the last one. Still figuring out all the menus and windows though.

I personally prefer this so far, on PC at least (I don't know what the XBox version is like, I haven't had a console since the Mega Drive was popular). I could never really get used to the controls of the last one. Still figuring out all the menus and windows though.

I hate the interface. And I hate how the trees and bushes populate on the screen as you move forward.

03.23.06 - OBLIVION REVIEW
TeleFragged has posted their review of Oblivion stating, "It's not only a true masterpiece, but it's also a shining example of the deep, engrossing experience that the ideal RPG should deliver."
Wow! Now I feel deprived of a valuable vicarious life experience by not playing computer games.

They should remake daggerfall. With the engine used in Oblivion.

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I hate the interface. And I hate how the trees and bushes populate on the screen as you move forward.

Well you can change the distance of when that happens. Shift up the bars in the graphical options menu to maximum and you won't really notice.

They should remake daggerfall. With the engine used in Oblivion.

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That much kickassery would probably be illegal.

Well you can change the distance of when that happens. Shift up the bars in the graphical options menu to maximum and you won't really notice.

Ah. I haven't gotten around to fiddling with the settings. I shall try that tonight after my 11 hour work day. :(

How I long to be in Cyrodiil....

That much kickassery would probably be illegal.

Chuck Norris would play OblivionFall.

Chuck Norris would play OblivionFall.

Chuck Norris would be the player character. You would automatically start at level 99 billion with all your stats maxed out.

Chuck Norris would be the player character. You would automatically start at level 99 billion with all your stats maxed out.

You'd start out, and the heir to the throne would find you, by the trail of unconscious ninjas.

OBLIVION?! I want that... soo bad.. *hyperventilates*

I can't wait to get it. I already ordered it. My Altmer Sorcerer shall rule. XD

Dunmer thief, all the way :D

I'm going to go to a shop and try to pay for 'parchment and quills' with the Septim from the collector's edition.

I'll be getting it once I'm home for the semester. No, way my lab top could handle it and I hope that since my computer at home is new as of this fall it'll be able to run it [knocks on wood]

I've got it! Arrived this morning!Only one hour fifty-seven minutes before I can go home and play it!

Well, unless I install WinXP to make Crossfire work first.

But I can read the manual and the book! And admire the shiny, shiny coin!

*Bounces up and down*

A computer game probably shouldn't excite me this much. But it does! So there!

Oh, Sdaeriji - there are loads of .ini settings you can fiddle with to make it even prettier. The Elder Scrolls forums has some topics on it. You want oblivion.ini in your character folder under My Documents, though, not the default one in the game directory.

Dunmer thief, all the way :D

I'm going to go to a shop and try to pay for 'parchment and quills' with the Septim from the collector's edition.
You mean that coin is not made a real life one made of solid gold? :eek:

Dunmer thief, all the way :D

I'm going to go to a shop and try to pay for 'parchment and quills' with the Septim from the collector's edition.

Nord spellsword, yo. With a giant ass battleaxe and 5 billion cold-based spells. Way to be.

Having actually played it now, I can officially say: WOW.

I mostly spend my time hunting deer and vampires, and getting my ass kcked by both :D

Has anyone else beaten the main quest yet besides myself? It seemed abrupt, the way it ended.

Shut up!!!
Just shut up all you ppl who have the game!

I went in two weeks ago and pre-ordered a copy, with the promise it would be there in 'a week'. I'm still waiting. Apparently it'll be 'this week, definitely'. If it's not in 2moro, I'll scream!
I'm going off for 11 days over Easter, so if I don't get it this weekend, it's be May b4 I get a chance to play it. Argghhhhh.....

Bwahahaah It is amazing. My character got vamped, but for some reason he hasn't had to feed, and hasn't degraded to another vampire level. :S!

For those who want to check out the system specs!
http://www.elderscrolls.com/games/oblivion_faq.htm

Basically not one for weak computers - 3Ghz P4 (or AMD equiv), 1Gb RAM, decent video card (no Tseng Labs ET4000 ...)

I haven't finished the Main Questline yet. Although I have finished the Dark Brotherhood Questline and am on the last mission of the Thieves Guild Questline. I have been so busy doing other things that I have neglected the Main Story.

I played it for a couple of days but lent it to may friend to stop me playing it, so I could finish my dissertation. Gona have to get a new video card anyway. The game rocks though!

Forgot to mention, My Character is a Nord Barbarian. He rules.

Might just get this game now, although my PC is rather borderline with system specs on it (Athlon64 3200+, 1Gb RAM, X700 256Mb).

Got to use up more my 160GB HDD ...

My custom PC could probably run several redundancies of this game.

My custom PC could probably run several redundancies of this game.

So could mine. You're not special.

I'm definately changing graphics cards in my PC before I even think about installing.

I'm running this on a bog standard laptop and it runs just fine. There are a number of tweaks and tricks you can do to make even a laptop run on semi-decent resolution at 30fps.

I got halfway through the mainquest as a Nord before starting againm as a Dark Elf, I joined the Dark Brotherhood and still have the Amulet of Kings :D

Strange that the Blades protecting the Emperor never took any notice of when I dressed up in the Mythic Dawn robes I took from one of the badguys they'd killed.

I got halfway through the mainquest as a Nord before starting againm as a Dark Elf, I joined the Dark Brotherhood and still have the Amulet of Kings :D

Strange that the Blades protecting the Emperor never took any notice of when I dressed up in the Mythic Dawn robes I took from one of the badguys they'd killed.

Well they don't care because those Mythic Dawn assassins are only wearing those robes when they're dead. When they're alive and attacking they have that nifty bound armor. So you look like a dead assassin.

My custom PC could probably run several redundancies of this game.
So could mine. You're not special.

I suspect that you both exagerate just a little. But I admit, there is a difference between simply 'running' a program and running it the way it was 'meant' to be run are two different things.

The performance of a AMD Athlon 64 FX-57, ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe (CrossFire Xpress 3200), MSI K8N Diamond (nForce4 SLI X16), 2GB OCZ DDR400 SDRAM with doubled up video cards...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f293/DubyaGoat/slifoliageaa1600.gif
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/oblivion_high-end_performance/page12.asp

It looks to me that unless you like framerates in the slideframe mode, no system today could 'double up' on this program yet.

Gotsta get me this game :D

I suspect that you both exagerate just a little. But I admit, there is a difference between simply 'running' a program and running it the way it was 'meant' to be run are two different things.

It looks to me that unless you like framerates in the slideframe mode, no system today could 'double up' on this program yet.

Gotsta get me this game :D

Well, obviously I couldn't run multiple instances of this game at the peak settings, or at anything resembling good settings. But my computer could technically do it. :D

AMD Athelon 64 FX-60 Dualcore procesor
Two ATI Radeon X1900s linked respectivly to two ATI Radeon X850 Crossfire editions.
4 gigs of RAM
a 200 gig hard drive.
Only the standard sound card though.......
700 Watt power supply.
Did not purchase the motherboard so I have no idea what it is.

Cost less than one might think.

Yeah, I have it and it's pretty awesome (although OblivionFall mentioned earlier is the best idea ever...). I haven't had much time to play it lately though, so I haven't beaten the main quest yet.

I hear Oblivion has gone pay for content.

I hear Oblivion has gone pay for content.

Yeah, but the content looks to be lame anyway and will probably be included if they release an expansion pack.

I hear Oblivion has gone pay for content.

Yeah. So far it's just horse armor. They'll probably include it in an expansion pack in six months.

Yeah. So far it's just horse armor. They'll probably include it in an expansion pack in six months.

I pity da fool who pays $2 USD for that.

I pity da fool who pays $2 USD for that.

Horse armor seems like something they really should have included in the actual game. I'm rather disappointed. The plugins for Morrowind were all free.

Horse armor seems like something they really should have included in the actual game. I'm rather disappointed. The plugins for Morrowind were all free.
Capitalism = the end of good gaming.

Horse armor seems like something they really should have included in the actual game. I'm rather disappointed. The plugins for Morrowind were all free.

There will be free user-made mods out there soon enough.

I don't care so much about horse armour, but would it have been so difficult to include mounted combat, though? Horse archery would actually make marksmanship a skill worth getting. I mean, if a shareware developer can do realistic mounted combat (http://www.taleworlds.com/), why couldn't Bethseda?

As it is now, the horses are gimmicky and not worth anything.

The stealth system is awesome. Nothing like picking a Wood Elf stealth character at the start and nailing things with a single arrow when they haven't seen you yet. And the Dark Brotherhood quests are amazing.

Sanguine, my Brother...

There will be free user-made mods out there soon enough.

I don't care so much about horse armour, but would it have been so difficult to include mounted combat, though? Horse archery would actually make marksmanship a skill worth getting. I mean, if a shareware developer can do realistic mounted combat (http://www.taleworlds.com/), why couldn't Bethseda?

As it is now, the horses are gimmicky and not worth anything.

As I heard it, it was a feature that they intended to implement, but it was proceeding slowly and Microsoft was getting antsy. It should be made more public by Bethesda that they intended to release this game January 2007 and Microsoft pressured an earlier release for the XBox 360.

As I heard it, it was a feature that they intended to implement, but it was proceeding slowly and Microsoft was getting antsy. It should be made more public by Bethesda that they intended to release this game January 2007 and Microsoft pressured an earlier release for the XBox 360.

Ugh. I still think it's really good, though. In quite a few ways, I probably like it better than Morrowind. It's a shame, really, because it could have been so much more given a bit more time.

I wish I could get Daggerfall running again on this computer though. I never actually finished that game. :(

Despite my PC barely meeting the minimum specs for this game, I'm having a blast. I've managed to get to get to 21st level with my Breton Spellsword trying to get all my recommendations for the mages guild, but keep getting sidetracked by all the side quests. Truly an immersive and impressive game.

Does anyone know if there are any ownable houses besides the ones in each city? I want a country estate or something, dang it.

Does anyone know if there are any ownable houses besides the ones in each city? I want a country estate or something, dang it.

Find a house, massacre the residents, and keep the house. It won't officially be yours, but in practice it will be. Cheaper, too.

Find a house, massacre the residents, and keep the house. It won't officially be yours, but in practice it will be. Cheaper, too.

That doesn't really count, though. I could just butcher the population of an entire town and call it my own. But I want to own it legitimately.

i'd just like to point out i only voted the second option cuz there wasn't a: nope, don't care, but each to their own option and i can't see a poll without voting on it whatever the topic/options. :p;)

Well they don't care because those Mythic Dawn assassins are only wearing those robes when they're dead. When they're alive and attacking they have that nifty bound armor. So you look like a dead assassin.

Oh yeaa, that's true.

Still they didn't take notice of a 'dead' Mythic Dawn 'member' wandering around though :D

Oh yeaa, that's true.

Still they didn't take notice of a 'dead' Mythic Dawn 'member' wandering around though :D

Did you try attacking them or the Emperor? Because, believe me, they notice that.

Did you try attacking them or the Emperor? Because, believe me, they notice that.

I did try to loot the Emperors body. They just told me to leave him in peace.

I did try to loot the Emperors body. They just told me to leave him in peace.

They'll beat your ass hard if you attack him. Chosen one or not, if you try to kill him, you'll die.

They'll beat your ass hard if you attack him. Chosen one or not, if you try to kill him, you'll die.

Yeaa I know, but I wanted his robes :(

As for houses, I'm sure someone somewhere will make a country estate for sale mod.

I had it pre-ordered. Although, I've installed it and only played a few times, it's a great game but my life is somewhat busy at the moment.

Yeaa I know, but I wanted his robes :(

As for houses, I'm sure someone somewhere will make a country estate for sale mod.

If you really want his robe, do "coc testinghall" in the Console, and go to the clothing testing hall. They're on the right. I'd give you the hex code for the robes, but I don't know that off the top of my head.

If you really want his robe, do "coc testinghall" in the Console, and go to the clothing testing hall. They're on the right. I'd give you the hex code for the robes, but I don't know that off the top of my head.

I went shopping at the testinghall once and when I tried going back the screen went black :(

I went shopping at the testinghall once and when I tried going back the screen went black :(

How'd you try going back?

How'd you try going back?

By coc'ing back to one of the towns. I saw somewhere that fast travel was supposed to beable to get you back but that didn't work.

By coc'ing back to one of the towns. I saw somewhere that fast travel was supposed to beable to get you back but that didn't work.

If you go into one of the doors in the middle of the testing hall, the one called "Hawkhaven", you can fast travel from there. Or, if you have an active quest, you can type "movetoqt" in the Console and it'll teleport you to the next quest objective.

If you go into one of the doors in the middle of the testing hall, the one called "Hawkhaven", you can fast travel from there. Or, if you have an active quest, you can type "movetoqt" in the Console and it'll teleport you to the next quest objective.

Ah right, thanks for that.

Ah right, thanks for that.

I am an encyclopedia for all things Morrowind, and I'm fast becoming one for Oblivion as well.

Man I love this game. My albino khajiit assassin is pure pwnage :p I have found the time to become Listener of the Black Hand, just a shame the assassin-missions are over now :(

Man I love this game. My albino khajiit assassin is pure pwnage :p I have found the time to become Listener of the Black Hand, just a shame the assassin-missions are over now :(

Fighter's Guild, yo. It's like the Dark Brotherhood, except more violent and less sneaky. I find it to be a suitable extension.

I'll join the Fighters Guild once I've done all there is in the Dark Brotherhood. Either that or wait for mods to come out that'll hopefully make more DB contracts.

Character creation is obscene.

It's totally ridiculous. I made a character that looks so much like my girlfriend it's embarrassing. I think the game is incredible so far. I have it for the 360.

I'm curious about tips if anyone has any.

Fighter's Guild, yo. It's like the Dark Brotherhood, except more violent and less sneaky. I find it to be a suitable extension.

Where is the fighter's guild located. I've only just started playing and haven't found it yet.

Where is the fighter's guild located. I've only just started playing and haven't found it yet.

There are guild halls in all the towns except for the Imperial City. I started in Chorrol.

There are guild halls in all the towns except for the Imperial City. I started in Chorrol.

Ah, that explains it. I've only been in the IC so far. I'll have to venture outward.

Adventuring out is a good idea. I love the wilderness so much I don't even use the fast travel all that much. It's just so nice to stroll amongst the trees :D

Adventuring out is a good idea. I love the wilderness so much I don't even use the fast travel all that much. It's just so nice to stroll amongst the trees :D

I bought a black horse and rode around the country side for one or two real life hours, just admiring the game.

I bought a black horse and rode around the country side for one or two real life hours, just admiring the game.

It's so much better than Morrowind. The countryside of Morrowind was just so terribally bland.

I've heard people complain about the NPC's being crap, but they are so much better then the NPC's in Morrowind. They walk about, have routenes and go elsewhere and even talk to each other. Yeaa it may churn out the odd silly conversation but who cares.

Im getting it for the PC.

It's so much better than Morrowind. The countryside of Morrowind was just so terribally bland.

Yes, I must admit it was repetative. All the places, and all the tombs and caves you find along the way were nearly Identicle. I havent seen how it is with oblivion,. as I do not have that game yet.

It's so much better than Morrowind. The countryside of Morrowind was just so terribally bland.

I've heard people complain about the NPC's being crap, but they are so much better then the NPC's in Morrowind. They walk about, have routenes and go elsewhere and even talk to each other. Yeaa it may churn out the odd silly conversation but who cares.

The fact that there are about a dozen voice actors does become noticable after a while. But I agree about the terrain. The terrain for Morrowind was appropriate considering everything they'd always established about the province, but it was boring. Cyrodiil is so much more beautiful. I'd like to see a game set in Valenwood.

The fact that there are about a dozen voice actors does become noticable after a while. But I agree about the terrain. The terrain for Morrowind was appropriate considering everything they'd always established about the province, but it was boring. Cyrodiil is so much more beautiful. I'd like to see a game set in Valenwood.

Yeaa like the pocket guide mentions with all the half hidden cities, an endless sea of green. Now that'll take SpeedTree to it's limits.

Yeaa like the pocket guide mentions with all the half hidden cities, an endless sea of green. Now that'll take SpeedTree to it's limits.

It's Tamriel's Kashyyyk.

It's Tamriel's Kashyyyk.

Yeaa.

I think Valenwood should be the setting for the next game if not all of Tamriel.

Yeaa.

I think Valenwood should be the setting for the next game if not all of Tamriel.

They're talking about maybe making the next one in Akavir or another continent. These first four are being called the Septim quadrilogy, because Uriel Septim was the emperor for all four. And now he's dead.

They're talking about maybe making the next one in Akavir or another continent. These first four are being called the Septim quadrilogy, because Uriel Septim was the emperor for all four. And now he's dead.

Yay dragons.

There are teams making user-created mods for most of the provinces. IIRC the only ones not being done yet are Summerset Isle and High Rock. No idea when they'll be done, or if all of them will survive, but it sounds pretty good.

Yay dragons.

I think they should make the world of Nirn more well defined. I don't like the idea that no one really knows what is going on outside of Tamriel. I'd like to see Pyandonea or Atmora or Aldmeris or Akavir or something to do with Yokuda or anywhere outside of Tamriel. At least disseminate the knowledge a bit, because we know that the people in charge know what's going on outside of Tamriel. The empire knew enough of Akavir to try to invade it, for instance.

Yeaa.

I think Valenwood should be the setting for the next game if not all of Tamriel.
I think they said that after arena they wouldn't do all of tamriel again, just one province at at time, but yea, I really want to see one set in Valenwood esp if they had the Summerset Isles too.

I think they should make the world of Nirn more well defined. I don't like the idea that no one really knows what is going on outside of Tamriel. I'd like to see Pyandonea or Atmora or Aldmeris or Akavir or something to do with Yokuda or anywhere outside of Tamriel. At least disseminate the knowledge a bit, because we know that the people in charge know what's going on outside of Tamriel. The empire knew enough of Akavir to try to invade it, for instance.
If you read the book where it tells about the invasion of Akavir it says that the Tamriel forces just got owned. Everything went wrong and even the weather turned aginst them...so badly that they thought that the Akavir had extremely powerful wizards.

If you read the book where it tells about the invasion of Akavir it says that the Tamriel forces just got owned. Everything went wrong and even the weather turned aginst them...so badly that they thought that the Akavir had extremely powerful wizards.

I did read it.

I did read it.
Then why did you say that. All that they know of Akavir is where its located, theres humans (or atleast humanoids) there, and they have nice katanas. Or did I miss one source that tells more about them

I got the game a while ago, and even though I installed it right away and started playing. (I've lost the whole weekend, and can't wait for the next one!)

In Morrowind, even though I was an Imperial, I loved to .. fetch things. I tried to better reflect things in Oblivion, so I chose a Khajit, assasin/theif character.

I really like the way they done Oblivion so far, even though the kickstart was a bit lame (don't tell me the king of all the realms known and unknown to you is just going to appear in front of you and .. ahh, spoiler O_o).

And I really like the way they done things with the guildes, I had to look around for a while until I finnaly found the Thieves Guild. Not to mention, I loved that guy from the Assasins Guild, "saguine my brother" or something.

The Arena was pretty easy, I made a couple of bucks there while killing that unbeatable ogre (I didn't do his quest, hope it wasn't something) while level.. 9 with the small sword that I got from that sanguine guy.

I can't wait this weekend to start playing Oblivion again, even though I still have some problems.. mainly with bounty, some guards chasing me each time I enter that town to join the Thieves Guild to get a discount at the bounty, and I have to kill the guards each time... and the bounty rises... eh.

Overall, a great game. Some flaws, horses without armor, I really would have loved the marksmanship while on my *stolen* horse and all. I'm such a newbie at these...




Oh and by the way, am I the only one who collects all the books found in this game and stores them somewhere? Interesting lecture that is. I've even found some describing places and events taking place in the older game, Morrowind.

Then why did you say that. All that they know of Akavir is where its located, theres humans (or atleast humanoids) there, and they have nice katanas. Or did I miss one source that tells more about them

They say that the Imperial Intelligence Service performed extensive espionage on the continent prior to the invasion. It stands to reason there is still spying going on even now. Also, there have been multiple Akaviri invasions of Tamriel, one of which resulted in the adoption of the Akaviri Potentate, which eventually ruled Tamriel for a period of time in the Second Era. It stands to reason that they divulged at least some information of their former homeland to the Elder Scrolls Library.

They say that the Imperial Intelligence Service performed extensive espionage on the continent prior to the invasion. It stands to reason there is still spying going on even now. Also, there have been multiple Akaviri invasions of Tamriel, one of which resulted in the adoption of the Akaviri Potentate, which eventually ruled Tamriel for a period of time in the Second Era. It stands to reason that they divulged at least some information of their former homeland to the Elder Scrolls Library.


You have a point. Although, I still think that they don't know anywhere near enough to go back concidering how bad of a disaster the last invasion was. Also they know even less about the other continents so I doubt if were going to see anything but Tamriel for a while

You have a point. Although, I still think that they don't know anywhere near enough to go back concidering how bad of a disaster the last invasion was. Also they know even less about the other continents so I doubt if were going to see anything but Tamriel for a while

Well there's no reason we can't set the game 50-100 years in a future where some event happened where Tamriel and Akavir are now intimately familiar.

They'll beat your ass hard if you attack him. Chosen one or not, if you try to kill him, you'll die.

No, you won't. I did it be accident and they start attacking you, but if you back off a bit eventually he'll call them off. I barely survived it but I did survive.

Well there's no reason we can't set the game 50-100 years in a future where some event happened where Tamriel and Akavir are now intimately familiar.
Very possible, personally I would like to invade Akavir myself though. Also I heard in one of the gossip conversations that the Nerevarine dissapeared on an expidition to Akavir, there is no way in oblivion that those Akavir killed my Nerevarine.

It's Tamriel's Kashyyyk.

So having all this information I'm very curious about your character. What did you choose to be, what main skills what focus traits, etc? And why?

No, you won't. I did it be accident and they start attacking you, but if you back off a bit eventually he'll call them off. I barely survived it but I did survive.

Ah. I kept on attacking the emperor. Perhaps that was my fatal error.

Very possible, personally I would like to invade Akavir myself though. Also I heard in one of the gossip conversations that the Nerevarine dissapeared on an expidition to Akavir, there is no way in oblivion that those Akavir killed my Nerevarine.

Damn right. My Nerevarine was a level 1000 Wood Elf. All her skills were at 100 and all her stats were base 100 and enchanted up to 120 each due to my enchanted suit of Daedric armor and clothes and jewelry and such. I rocked the house. I could have destroyed an entire Akaviri army by my lonesome.

So having all this information I'm very curious about your character. What did you choose to be, what main skills what focus traits, etc? And why?

I mentioned it earlier. Nord Spellsword. With a big ass Daedric battleaxe and a buttload of frost spells.

Level 1000? Isn't that mathematically impossible given that you have to gain ten points in your chosen skills to gain a level?

So having all this information I'm very curious about your character. What did you choose to be, what main skills what focus traits, etc? And why?
In case your question involves me even though you weren't quoting me, we have been the ones having the conversation. My charachter is a very do all character, A breton, with the sign of the lady, and a custom class majoring in Magic with Destruction, Restration, Blade, Block, Light Armor, Sneak, and Armorer. Even though it's not one of my major skills I've mastered conjuration because it is so easy to level.

Level 1000? Isn't that mathematically impossible given that you have to gain ten points in your chosen skills to gain a level?

Nope. If you had an item that enchanted a stat above 100, you could continue to train in a skill that used that as its governing attribute endlessly. For example, I used Security. I had an enchanted amulet that made my Intelligence 125. Then, I went to the Security master trainer dude in Balmora. Since my Intelligence was 125, I could train in that skill, because you can continue to train in that skill until it reaches the governing attribute. But since you can't level a skill above 100, it would stay at 100. Since Security was a major skill for me, every time I trained a point in it, I got a point towards levelling up. And because it never got to 125, I was able to train ad infinitum. So, many, many long hours of doing nothing but boring old training got me to level 1000. I originally assumed the level cap would be 255, and my intention was to level up to that. When I found out that the level cap in Morrowind wasn't 255 (it's 65,535, for the record), I kept on training, thinking it would be something close like 511 or something. When I hit 1,000, I gave up trying to get the level cap. And thank god.

In case your question involves me even though you weren't quoting me, we have been the ones having the conversation. My charachter is a very do all character, A breton, with the sign of the lady, and a custom class majoring in Magic with Destruction, Restration, Blade, Block, Light Armor, Sneak, and Armorer. Even though it's not one of my major skills I've mastered conjuration because it is so easy to level.

I was talking to anybody who really knows the game.

I picked Strength and Endurance. I'm a Nord. And I called myself a Paladin. The character is a female and looks exactly like my girlfriend.

Armorer, Blade, Heavy Armor, Block, Illusion, Speechcraft and merchantskill or whatever it's called. I'm only level 4 and I saved the character right at the point where the final decision on the character is made so I could make another if I like.

SD, what's a spellsword specialize in?

SD, what's a spellsword specialize in?

Weapons and destruction magic.

Weapons and destruction magic.

You know that is one thing that bugs me. They made so many of the fighter related classes have both blade and blunt. Why would anyone want that?

You know that is one thing that bugs me. They made so many of the fighter related classes have both blade and blunt. Why would anyone want that?

Variety. That way you can just switch weapons based on which does the most damage whenever you find them without worrying about your proficiency with either.

And now I venture into the realm of Oblivion....

Variety. That way you can just switch weapons based on which does the most damage whenever you find them without worrying about your proficiency with either.

And now I venture into the realm of Oblivion....

And I get that to a degree, but what could be more obnoxious than having to a different weapon so you can level up. If I get all the way leveled up on blunt and have some great mace, do I want to put it down so I can get my blade skill up to speed?

You know that is one thing that bugs me. They made so many of the fighter related classes have both blade and blunt. Why would anyone want that?

Why pick classes anyway? Design your own...I always do, for that very reason. Most of the default classes are lame.

Why pick classes anyway? Design your own...I always do, for that very reason. Most of the default classes are lame.

That's true for any RPG, really.

That's true for any RPG, really.

In D&D games it makes sense, but in Oblivion, why stick with the default classes when you can be a claymore-wielding sorceror thief?

In D&D games it makes sense, but in Oblivion, why stick with the default classes when you can be a claymore-wielding sorceror thief?

Yeah, exactly.

Hey, I wanna know... Can you make your character a midget in Oblivion? And I don't mean just 5', either. I mean a 2'6" midget. I like making those, because it's funny for a tiny guy to kick everyone's ass. :p

Yeah, exactly.

Hey, I wanna know... Can you make your character a midget in Oblivion? And I don't mean just 5', either. I mean a 2'6" midget. I like making those, because it's funny for a tiny guy to kick everyone's ass. :p

Nope, and that's something that pissed me off. You can't change the body shape. You can do absolutely anything with the face, but not the body - you're stuck with the same default one for each race. :mad:

Hey anybody else gonna buy Horse Armor? I probably will, it's $1.99!

In D&D games it makes sense, but in Oblivion, why stick with the default classes when you can be a claymore-wielding sorceror thief?

Well... I like my Spellsword.

Nope, and that's something that pissed me off. You can't change the body shape. You can do absolutely anything with the face, but not the body - you're stuck with the same default one for each race. :mad:

That fucking sucks!

I WANT MY MIDGET!!!

Why pick classes anyway? Design your own...I always do, for that very reason. Most of the default classes are lame.

I made a new one last night and got up to level 10 in a couple of hours. So my question is who is the highest level in Oblivion so far?

I made a new one last night and got up to level 10 in a couple of hours. So my question is who is the highest level in Oblivion so far?

Aha... the REAL reason why Jocabia is vacating NS General...

Aha... the REAL reason why Jocabia is vacating NS General...

Actually, if you knew how much time I've lost to RPG's. I'm actually scaling back a lot. I am selling my WoW account (which has absorbed half a year of my life, thanks TCG) which one of each race and one of each class and covers all of the skills. There is a ton of time on that. Oblivion is one that is just a filler mostly. I don't really get obsessed with one-player games like I do when I get on games where I meet people and like them.

Actually, if you knew how much time I've lost to RPG's. I'm actually scaling back a lot. I am selling my WoW account (which has absorbed half a year of my life, thanks TCG) which one of each race and one of each class and covers all of the skills. There is a ton of time on that. Oblivion is one that is just a filler mostly. I don't really get obsessed with one-player games like I do when I get on games where I meet people and like them.

I've never found the Elder Scrolls games to be so consuming like some other RPGs. I think that, since it's the closest thing to freeform RPG that you can get on a computer, it's a lot easier to play it for an hour or two at a time without getting so engrossed. It's very modular in that respect. You can start it up, complete a few quests, and then put it down if you need to. Not like other games where everything is so tied to the storyline that you can't let it go. I like that about the Elder Scrolls games.

I've never found the Elder Scrolls games to be so consuming like some other RPGs. I think that, since it's the closest thing to freeform RPG that you can get on a computer, it's a lot easier to play it for an hour or two at a time without getting so engrossed. It's very modular in that respect. You can start it up, complete a few quests, and then put it down if you need to. Not like other games where everything is so tied to the storyline that you can't let it go. I like that about the Elder Scrolls games.

Well, also, if you're questing in a big group, you can't just quit in the middle of a dungeon. Even in solo RPG's quitting in most dungeons would get you killed. I have no trouble saving the game and stopping with Elder Scrolls.

You didn't answer. What level are you now?

Well, also, if you're questing in a big group, you can't just quit in the middle of a dungeon. Even in solo RPG's quitting in most dungeons would get you killed. I have no trouble saving the game and stopping with Elder Scrolls.

You didn't answer. What level are you now?

20 something, I think.

20 something, I think.

Here's what I was wondering? Do you know any of the cutoffs on stats. Are they still all at 100? I'm up to nearly 75 on Alchemy (one of my mains now).

I also want to know if anyone tried your trick and what the level cutoff is.

Basically, I'm trying to figure out how important it is that I get 5 points for all three items every time I level.

Here's what I was wondering? Do you know any of the cutoffs on stats. Are they still all at 100? I'm up to nearly 75 on Alchemy (one of my mains now).

I also want to know if anyone tried your trick and what the level cutoff is.

Basically, I'm trying to figure out how important it is that I get 5 points for all three items every time I level.
The caps are still 100.

I'm at level 18 right now.

The caps are still 100.

I'm at level 18 right now.

Are you guys careful to get 5 points in all three items every time you level or do you worry about it?

Are you guys careful to get 5 points in all three items every time you level or do you worry about it?

Nah, takes way too much effort, since you can't pay to train a skill up 10 points immediately like in Morrowind. I usually pay a trainer to focus on one specific stat increase per level, but apart from that...eh. I usually get +3 on three stats by just playing normally.

Nah, takes way too much effort, since you can't pay to train a skill up 10 points immediately like in Morrowind. I usually pay a trainer to focus on one specific stat increase per level, but apart from that...eh. I usually get +3 on three stats by just playing normally.

I guess it doesn't matter much. Even at plus two I'll get to full by level 50 or close to it.

Here's what I was wondering? Do you know any of the cutoffs on stats. Are they still all at 100? I'm up to nearly 75 on Alchemy (one of my mains now).

I also want to know if anyone tried your trick and what the level cutoff is.

Basically, I'm trying to figure out how important it is that I get 5 points for all three items every time I level.

No, they fixed the training system so you can't do my little trick anymore. Dang them and their closing of loopholes to godliness.

No, they fixed the training system so you can't do my little trick anymore. Dang them and their closing of loopholes to godliness.

So what does that mean? Is there a fairly low level cap?

Wouldn't that make it an advantage to choose as your main skills, skills that are as low as possible?

So what does that mean? Is there a fairly low level cap?

Wouldn't that make it an advantage to choose as your main skills, skills that are as low as possible?

Well, the level cap is 255. But without that ability to fudge the levelling up, you can only level as far as you can increase your major skills, unless you console cheat.

Well, the level cap is 255. But without that ability to fudge the levelling up, you can only level as far as you can increase your major skills, unless you console cheat.

Why have a level cap that you cannot reach? That doesn't really make sense.

Why have a level cap that you cannot reach? That doesn't really make sense.

Just for bit storage. 8 bits to store levels. 4 bits would only allow a level cap of 15.

Got it, and love it.

I've been a fan of this series since the demo for TES II: Daggerfall came in my brother's PC Gamer magezine. When Oblivion was first announced, I put away every penny of my entertainment budget to pay for the PC upgrades.

I wish they'd hurry up and put out the model exporter for the construction set, but ultimately, this game has exceeded my expectations by miles.

Just for bit storage. 8 bits to store levels. 4 bits would only allow a level cap of 15.

Yeah, I realized that after I wrote it. Carry on.

Still annoying. If it doesn't hurt the game and it doesn't hurt you and you're interesting in playing past the stopping point, why not? Why would they place a limit on you that isn't necessary? It's not like WoW or something where you are playing AGAINST other players. It's silly.

Yeah, I realized that after I wrote it. Carry on.

Still annoying. If it doesn't hurt the game and it doesn't hurt you and you're interesting in playing past the stopping point, why not? Why would they place a limit on you that isn't necessary? It's not like WoW or something where you are playing AGAINST other players. It's silly.

Well they have to store the level information somehow, because the game scales the difficulty to your level. And if they store it, they have to store it in a finite amount of space, and that lends itself to a level cap.

Well they have to store the level information somehow, because the game scales the difficulty to your level. And if they store it, they have to store it in a finite amount of space, and that lends itself to a level cap.

Yes, yes, I know. What I mean is they store the information in eight bits then there is little reason to stop us from filling up all eight. They had to actually store the level cap somewhere instead of just letting it cap out when the game prevented you from getting further.

Compare it to the old game. They didn't intend to let you make level 1000. But the game mechanics allowed it and you were patient enough to do it, so why take that out. A level cap requires an addition, not the other way around. That's why you were able to do that in the old game, because they forgot to add the cap.

Yes, yes, I know. What I mean is they store the information in eight bits then there is little reason to stop us from filling up all eight. They had to actually store the level cap somewhere instead of just letting it cap out when the game prevented you from getting further.

Compare it to the old game. They didn't intend to let you make level 1000. But the game mechanics allowed it and you were patient enough to do it, so why take that out. A level cap requires an addition, not the other way around. That's why you were able to do that in the old game, because they forgot to add the cap.

Morrowind had a level cap as well. It was 65,535. Rather unreachable, but still there. Since they believe they've eliminated all the loopholes that were available in Morrowind to achieve such a ridiculous level, why bother keeping the option.

It's not that they're actively choosing to cap level. They need a place in the code that says character_level = x, so they can have the variable necessary to perform the algorithms necessary to change the difficulty of the game. They chose to store that value x in 8 bits. They need to store it somehow, and therefore there needs to be a cap; the most information that the bit storage allows.

Morrowind had a level cap as well. It was 65,535.

That number is used as a skill/stat/info cap for way too many games.

Morrowind had a level cap as well. It was 65,535. Rather unreachable, but still there. Since they believe they've eliminated all the loopholes that were available in Morrowind to achieve such a ridiculous level, why bother keeping the option.

It's not that they're actively choosing to cap level. They need a place in the code that says character_level = x, so they can have the variable necessary to perform the algorithms necessary to change the difficulty of the game. They chose to store that value x in 8 bits. They need to store it somehow, and therefore there needs to be a cap; the most information that the bit storage allows.

You're missing what I'm saying. I don't have a problem with a bit limitation, like 255 for 65,535, but they set an arbitrary limitation in 100. And no, I don't think they should have closed the loophole. Good on you for finding it.

You're missing what I'm saying. I don't have a problem with a bit limitation, like 255 for 65,535, but they set an arbitrary limitation in 100. And no, I don't think they should have closed the loophole. Good on you for finding it.

I don't want to take too much credit, but that loophole was never on any of the FAQ websites until I submitted it to a couple. I don't know how far it's spread, but I like to think of myself as the discoverer of it. I'm sure other people figured it out on their own, but I was definitely amongst the first.

I think 100 is used as a cap because it's thought of as a percentage of your total ability. It's a nice round number. But now I do get what you're saying.

That number is used as a skill/stat/info cap for way too many games.

The options are sort of limited by bit structure. You can use four bits, which allows a max of 15. Obviously that's not acceptable. You can use eight bits, which allows a max of 255. That's more reasonable, but still small if you're into powergaming. And the there's 16 bits, which allows 65,535. That's obviously massive overkill. But when the choice is between going under or going way over, it seems most game designers choose to go way over.

The options are sort of limited by bit structure. You can use four bits, which allows a max of 15. Obviously that's not acceptable. You can use eight bits, which allows a max of 255. That's more reasonable, but still small if you're into powergaming. And the there's 16 bits, which allows 65,535. That's obviously massive overkill. But when the choice is between going under or going way over, it seems most game designers choose to go way over.

I say good on them. It should make no difference how high you level to so long as you're not playing against others. If that's fun for you and keeps you playing their game why would they want to stop you?

I am getting this game for Xbox 360 on May 1st (my b-day). After all the time I spent playing Morrowind I am expecting good things.

I am getting this game for Xbox 360 on May 1st (my b-day). After all the time I spent playing Morrowind I am expecting good things.

I play it on the 360 and so far I am impressed. The loads are a little slow and because of the way it loads it will suddenly just stop as you're running but otherwise it's stunning. This game rocks.

I play it on the 360 and so far I am impressed. The loads are a little slow and because of the way it loads it will suddenly just stop as you're running but otherwise it's stunning. This game rocks.
Well the thing is if I played it on my computer it would be muchhh slower, plus it would probably crash more often, so 360 it is!

It's not fun once you get to the high numbers in levels anyways.You can essentially kill anything, one hit. It sucks. Thats why they put the level cap there.


I mean, as long as you got the PC version, you can always mod it anyhow.

I play it on the 360 and so far I am impressed. The loads are a little slow and because of the way it loads it will suddenly just stop as you're running but otherwise it's stunning. This game rocks.

That's the way Morrowind was on the XBox, though, so it's really just about the same, load-wise.

That's the way Morrowind was on the XBox, though, so it's really just about the same, load-wise.

I didn't have any problem with Morrowind on XBox, but maybe I just don't remember it.

I have a question for 360 users. Have you had any lockups? I've had a couple already.

It's not fun once you get to the high numbers in levels anyways.You can essentially kill anything, one hit. It sucks. Thats why they put the level cap there.


I mean, as long as you got the PC version, you can always mod it anyhow.

There's a difficulty slider. If you get bored, turn it up, and be surprised at the level of butt-whooping you receive.

As for the max level thing, can't you just kill a gaurd and go to prison to lower your major skills?