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We're all going to hell. That's a given, but what's the first thing you're going to do when you get there, aside from being raped by a demon?



Assume that hell does exist and only Super Lame Nerds go to heaven.

Things to do when in hell? I don't plan on ever being in West Texas. I'm in purgatory now (North Dakota) and that's as close as I'd like to get.

Demons cannot rape me as rape is a phsyical act.

Demons cannot rape me as rape is a phsyical act.
Okay, they have magical powers.

What's hell like? Hell's conditions will have a huge impact on what I choose to do.

We're all going to hell. That's a given, but what's the first thing you're going to do when you get there, aside from being raped by a demon?
Enough with the anti-hell propaganda. The daemons are nice and cater for your every sexual need. Not like in Heaven, which is run by an evil dictator and his army of angels (who happen to all be white).

First, visit Hitlers coffee shop and have a biscotti and an espresso, then I'm going over to Satans place and smoking a blunt with him, then I guess after that I'll go rent a room a Days Inn. Because we all know Days Inn is a branch of the Hell Hotel chain, the Hiltons of hell.

Are there condos in Hell?

Angels can have sex.... >.> Its heaven baby!

In hell...you are used or the user.

I'll wonder what the heck I'm doing in New Jersey.

We're all going to hell. That's a given, but what's the first thing you're going to do when you get there, aside from being raped by a demon?



Assume that hell does exist and only Super Lame Nerds go to heaven.
well, if Super Lame Nerds go to heaven...


then I'm in Heaven.... and also very, very lonely.

What's hell like? Hell's conditions will have a huge impact on what I choose to do.
It's about like South Park's version of Hell, except better roads.

We're all going to hell. That's a given, but what's the first thing you're going to do when you get there, aside from being raped by a demon?



Assume that hell does exist and only Super Lame Nerds go to heaven.
Toast marshmallows, I suppose.

First, visit Hitlers coffee shop and have a biscotti and an espresso, then I'm going over to Satans place and smoking a blunt with him, then I guess after that I'll go rent a room a Days Inn. Because we all know Days Inn is a branch of the Hell Hotel chain, the Hiltons of hell.

Lol. I'd put Satan out of a job. Satan has a deal with the Saudi's for all the oil and a deal with the President for all the Americans.

God will love me and Satan will be my stuffed toy. :O

Okay, they have magical powers.
Its quite apparent that demons have magical powers. The question is one of matter.
Sex is also a physical act. Our spirits cannot have sex. Angels do not have the required equipment to have sex.

Its quite apparent that demons have magical powers. The question is one of matter.
Sex is also a physical act. Our spirits cannot have sex. Angels do not have the required equipment to have sex.

In heaven they can and do have sex. Or how else did god impregnate Mary? ^-^

Or how else did god impregnate Mary?
It was the Archangle Gabriel or one of his whores. He's God's pimp. It was a strap on with divine sperm.

I suppose I'd try to get a tan. Maybe watch "Constantine" and "The Devil's Advocate". Movies with a certain theme.

Easy. Going to a taping of Hitler's talk show.

There is nothing exciting going on in Hell. (http://www.answers.com/topic/hell-norway)

Hmm. I wonder if Toten Transport (http://www.toten-transport.no/html/topp5.htm) makes stops in Hell...

I'd go straight up to the Devil and tell him to pull my finger.
After that, run like hell.

Take over.

It was the Archangle Gabriel or one of his whores. He's God's pimp. It was a strap on with divine sperm.

O.O....NO.

Play air hockey with Vince McMahon. Assuming he gets there before me.

I suppose I'd try to get a tan. Maybe watch "Constantine" and "The Devil's Advocate". Movies with a certain theme.
remember, this is hell... so it would be "Glitter", "Gigli", "Ishtar"...

It was the Archangle Gabriel or one of his whores. He's God's pimp. It was a strap on with divine sperm.
and here I was thinking the Holy Turkey Baster... :p

There is nothing exciting going on in Hell. (http://www.answers.com/topic/hell-norway)
Norway's got nothing on Michigan. (http://www.hell2u.com/)

I thought this was hell:confused:

I'll wonder what the heck I'm doing in New Jersey.
Just because we've got the devils doesn't make it hell.

Its quite apparent that demons have magical powers. The question is one of matter.
Sex is also a physical act. Our spirits cannot have sex. Angels do not have the required equipment to have sex.

What the hell kind of Heaven is this where you can't have sex?!? :eek:

Send me to hell. ;)

remember, this is hell... so it would be "Glitter", "Gigli", "Ishtar"...

Shit, you're right! :eek:

Then I guess instead of my first real tan I'd just end up with a red, painful, blistered sunburn. :(

I'd probably piss on the demons, show them how evil I can be and take the fuck over. After which point, I would install some boilers and turn hell into a gigantic corporation providing clean geothermal energy to the world. The demons would be the accountants, not to mention they'd also play the role of supply requisition, and the tortured souls would be my engineers and maintenance.

You know, after reading your responses, I sure hope you aren't thinking about the spiritual "Hell" (as opposed to Hell, Michigan) because if you are, you are really messed up then.

Maybe you people don't entirely get what the Biblical (and many other) version of Hell is.

IT IS NOT A FUN PLACE. YOU DO NOT GET TO HAVE FUN.

You are essentially stuck in a prison where the unsaved, demons, and Satan will eventually spend the rest of eternity, in an everlasting fire that "burns" you but does not kill you. In other words, it's prision, but an infinite times worse. You have no power there, Satan has no power there, his demons have no power there. You stay there, and burn, and experience agony like you've never experienced.

Have a nice day, and hope you're never there, cause once you go in, there's no chance your ever gonna get out. No chance in Hell :)

You know, after reading your responses, I sure hope you aren't thinking about the spiritual "Hell" (as opposed to Hell, Michigan) because if you are, you are really messed up then.

Maybe you people don't entirely get what the Biblical (and many other) version of Hell is.

IT IS NOT A FUN PLACE. YOU DO NOT GET TO HAVE FUN.

You are essentially stuck in a prison where the unsaved, demons, and Satan will eventually spend the rest of eternity, in an everlasting fire that "burns" you but does not kill you. In other words, it's prision, but an infinite times worse. You have no power there, Satan has no power there, his demons have no power there. You stay there, and burn, and experience agony like you've never experienced.

Have a nice day, and hope you're never there, cause once you go in, there's no chance your ever gonna get out. No chance in Hell :)
how medieval

how medieval

Uh-huh, and what do you mean by that comment?

Send me to hell.
Where you're spirit is going to get anally phantom raped by a demon once he equips the magical Trojan. Enjoy.

I shall continue to complain about Global Warming as I burn in hell.

You know, after reading your responses, I sure hope you aren't thinking about the spiritual "Hell" (as opposed to Hell, Michigan) because if you are, you are really messed up then.

Maybe you people don't entirely get what the Biblical (and many other) version of Hell is.

IT IS NOT A FUN PLACE. YOU DO NOT GET TO HAVE FUN.

You are essentially stuck in a prison where the unsaved, demons, and Satan will eventually spend the rest of eternity, in an everlasting fire that "burns" you but does not kill you. In other words, it's prision, but an infinite times worse. You have no power there, Satan has no power there, his demons have no power there. You stay there, and burn, and experience agony like you've never experienced.

Have a nice day, and hope you're never there, cause once you go in, there's no chance your ever gonna get out. No chance in Hell :)

And you know this how?


I trust when I get to hell Satan will have my room ready with a fully stocked mini bar.

Where you're spirit is going to get anally phantom raped by a demon once he equips the magical Trojan. Enjoy.
they do it rawr in hell:eek:

Have a nice day, and hope you're never there, cause once you go in, there's no chance your ever gonna get out.
How'd Jesus do it then?

You know, after reading your responses, I sure hope you aren't thinking about the spiritual "Hell" (as opposed to Hell, Michigan) because if you are, you are really messed up then.

Maybe you people don't entirely get what the Biblical (and many other) version of Hell is.

IT IS NOT A FUN PLACE. YOU DO NOT GET TO HAVE FUN.

You are essentially stuck in a prison where the unsaved, demons, and Satan will eventually spend the rest of eternity, in an everlasting fire that "burns" you but does not kill you. In other words, it's prision, but an infinite times worse. You have no power there, Satan has no power there, his demons have no power there. You stay there, and burn, and experience agony like you've never experienced.

Have a nice day, and hope you're never there, cause once you go in, there's no chance your ever gonna get out. No chance in Hell :)

Wrong. Satan is ruler in Hell.

He was supposed to be stuck in the earth to the end of time (hell was timeless) and through his own WILL Satan made Hell. Its an everlasting 'Fuck you!' to God. He rules by fear and power and evil and desire.

And you know this how?


I trust when I get to hell Satan will have my room ready with a fully stocked mini bar.

By a book that was written by people who were told by God (the ultimate, sinless who created everything; according to what I believe) what to write, but that's your choice to go burn.

I shall continue to complain about Global Warming as I burn in hell.
:D

How'd Jesus do it then?
Flame Suit.

You know, after reading your responses, I sure hope you aren't thinking about the spiritual "Hell" (as opposed to Hell, Michigan) because if you are, you are really messed up then.

Maybe you people don't entirely get what the Biblical (and many other) version of Hell is.

IT IS NOT A FUN PLACE. YOU DO NOT GET TO HAVE FUN.

You are essentially stuck in a prison where the unsaved, demons, and Satan will eventually spend the rest of eternity, in an everlasting fire that "burns" you but does not kill you. In other words, it's prision, but an infinite times worse. You have no power there, Satan has no power there, his demons have no power there. You stay there, and burn, and experience agony like you've never experienced.

Have a nice day, and hope you're never there, cause once you go in, there's no chance your ever gonna get out. No chance in Hell :)

I will have fun if it kills me! I defy anyone or anything to make me not have fun!

How'd Jesus do it then?

a giant Jesusbot. DUH.

Where you're spirit is going to get anally phantom raped by a demon once he equips the magical Trojan. Enjoy.

It's only rape if you don't want it. :p

Uh-huh, and what do you mean by that comment?
what I mean is that your vision of hell is very middle ages

Wrong. Satan is ruler in Hell.

He was supposed to be stuck in the earth to the end of time (hell was timeless) and through his own WILL Satan made Hell. Its an everlasting 'Fuck you!' to God. He rules by fear and power and evil and desire.

Okay, and who told you that?

Because if it was Satan then I'd like to say that chances are it's a total lie. Tell me, if Satan is going to Hell, he's not going to care if he tells the truth or not about Hell, cause he's going to want as much company as possible.

what I mean is that your vision of hell is very middle ages

But Biblical.

Okay, and who told you that?

Because if it was Satan then I'd like to say that chances are it's a total lie. Tell me, if Satan is going to Hell, he's not going to care if he tells the truth or not about Hell, cause he's going to want as much company as possible.
Wouldn't more company just make it warmer?

How'd Jesus do it then?

Jesus died, but never actually went to Hell. You are thinking about an unBiblical source, I trust the Bible more than any book or document.

By a book that was written by people who were told by God (the ultimate, sinless who created everything; according to what I believe) what to write, but that's your choice to go burn.
a book thats open to interpretation and your interpretation of it is no more valid then anyone else

Wouldn't more company just make it warmer?

Not really, no set volume or limits. Essentially, a single person in an infinitely sized room isn't going to make much of a difference.

I will have fun if it kills me! I defy anyone or anything to make me not have fun!
thats the spirit

a book thats open to interpretation and your interpretation of it is no more valid then anyone else

True, but it's a little bit hard to not interpret "fire and brimstone" or talk of Hell being reserved for Satan and his followers as anything but negative.

But Biblical.
with a very dogmatically incorrect interpretation--God is not a torturer like Bush

Just for the heck of it, I just checked the NS site, and there is a Hell region. Founded by Satan! :eek:

It would....if grouped together and equililbrum wasn't reached.

with a very dogmatically incorrect interpretation

How so? It's based on what is written. If you would like to propose another interpretation then please, go ahead.

Know what I always wondered about hell? Why is it meant to be all hot and that? Weren't the people who worte the Bible from a fairly hot part of the world? Surely a really really cold hell would be worse to them

By a book that was written by people who were told by God (the ultimate, sinless who created everything; according to what I believe) what to write, but that's your choice to go burn.
You're thinking of Dante's Inferno, which wasn't inspired by God, and is not Biblical. It is a poem.
Jesus died, but never actually went to Hell. You are thinking about an unBiblical source, I trust the Bible more than any book or document.
In all four versions of the Bible I've read, "...Jesus descended into Hell, and on the third day, He rose again...". I do believe that your source is unreliable and not Biblical, and merely enchanted memories implanted by a trollkarl. I would encourage you to stop your evangelical heresy, lest I ralley a crusade or oraganize an inquisition to stop such beliefs.

It would....if grouped together and equililbrum wasn't reached.

Okay, try to organize a couple thousand people in a smoke filled, extremely heated room. Especially people that are in excruciating pain.

True, but it's a little bit hard to not interpret "fire and brimstone" or talk of Hell being reserved for Satan and his followers as anything but negative.
the bible was never written to be interpreted in such a literal and narrow manner--most of it is in code and your only interpreting its meaning on a very simplistic level

Burn?

the bible was never written to be interpreted in such a literal and narrow manner

Prove it.

Burn?

Yes, burn. You know, like when you throw a match at gasoline that's been recently poured on something.

Prove it.
well logic alone proves it--God is not a sadist and a superior being doesnt create and send people to Hell--thats a very barbarian concept of a God

Depose Satan and take over.

People can't exist in an infinite space. It's a mathematical impossibility.

COnsider this:

There must be a finite number of people in Hell. For there have been a finite number of people who have died. They take up a finite amount of space.

If Hell is infinite, then the portion of Hell that is occupied would be defined as a finite number divided by infinity. Which equals zero. People take up no space. Therefore, they aren't there. :)

You're thinking of Dante's Inferno, which wasn't inspired by God, and is not Biblical. It is a poem.

In all four versions of the Bible I've read, "...Jesus descended into Hell, and on the third day, He rose again...". I do believe that your source is unreliable and not Biblical, and merely enchanted memories implanted by a trollkarl. I would encourage you to stop your evangelical heresy, lest I ralley a crusade or oraganize an inquisition to stop such beliefs.

No, I'm not, there are Biblical verses.

Please specify which four versions while I go and check the KJV.


Please hold.

Okay, try to organize a couple thousand people in a smoke filled, extremely heated room. Especially people that are in excruciating pain.

At this stage there's bound to be millions of people in hell. presumably the majority of people sonce the founding of catholicsim haven't been catholic. So chances are they're all in hell. And then there's the catholics who went to hell. You're already up to a few billion at this stage.

You know, after reading your responses, I sure hope you aren't thinking about the spiritual "Hell" (as opposed to Hell, Michigan) because if you are, you are really messed up then.

Maybe you people don't entirely get what the Biblical (and many other) version of Hell is.

IT IS NOT A FUN PLACE. YOU DO NOT GET TO HAVE FUN.

You are essentially stuck in a prison where the unsaved, demons, and Satan will eventually spend the rest of eternity, in an everlasting fire that "burns" you but does not kill you. In other words, it's prision, but an infinite times worse. You have no power there, Satan has no power there, his demons have no power there. You stay there, and burn, and experience agony like you've never experienced.

Have a nice day, and hope you're never there, cause once you go in, there's no chance your ever gonna get out. No chance in Hell :)

That's where you're wrong. Hell is in fact the owner of a very cold, very large cavern far beneath the surface of the earth where the ceiling is covered by serpents that constantly drip venom down on the constantly freezing, poor trapped souls of those who died from old age, disease, or any other reason that that does not involve dying honorably, weapon in hand, on the field of battle. The entrance is guarded by an immense warhound named Garmr, whose howls will signal the beginning of the end times. It is rumoured that the road to Hell goes northwards and netherwards.

The nails of those who are sentenced to this place are pulled and used in the construction of a grim ship called Naglfar, onboard which Loki will arrive at the head of an army of giants, initiating the final events of Ragnarok, which is the destruction of the world and of gods and men and giants.

Prove it.

I don't think it can be proven. Think about this, though: through translation and permutation ovet the centuries, it doesn't matter how literally it is taken anyway since it's been changed so much.

It's only rape if you don't want it.
I did say, "Enjoy," didn't I? ;)

well logic alone proves it--God is not a sadist and a superior being doesnt create and send people to Hell--thats a very barbarian concept of a God

That's my own problem with the concept of Hell. Especially the fire & brimstone version.

...
That'd work, if only we were talking about Hel and not Hell. Which is in Michigan.

well logic alone proves it--God is not a sadist and a superior being doesnt create and send people to Hell--thats a very barbarian concept of a God

God was something of a sadist in the old testament. Thus it follows logically that he is capable of sadistic acts to this day. Or was that part of the bible wrong?

You're thinking of Dante's Inferno, which wasn't inspired by God, and is not Biblical. It is a poem.

In all four versions of the Bible I've read, "...Jesus descended into Hell, and on the third day, He rose again...". I do believe that your source is unreliable and not Biblical, and merely enchanted memories implanted by a trollkarl. I would encourage you to stop your evangelical heresy, lest I ralley a crusade or oraganize an inquisition to stop such beliefs.
DO IT:)

Sure....algrebra was your strong suit to?

That's where you're wrong. Hell is in fact the owner of a very cold, very large cavern far beneath the surface of the earth where the ceiling is covered by serpents that constantly drip venom down on the constantly freezing, poor trapped souls of those who died from old age, disease, or any other reason that that does not involve dying honorably, weapon in hand, on the field of battle.

Wow. That sucks for women.

well logic alone proves it--God is not a sadist and a superior being doesnt create and send people to Hell--thats a very barbarian concept of a God

Hell wasn't made for us. Originally made for Satan.

Also, God created us not so that He could condemn us to Hell but so that we could truly love him. (difference between programmed love, and free love)

That's where you're wrong. Hell is in fact the owner of a very cold, very large cavern far beneath the surface of the earth where the ceiling is covered by serpents that constantly drip venom down on the constantly freezing, poor trapped souls of those who died from old age, disease, or any other reason that that does not involve dying honorably, weapon in hand, on the field of battle. The entrance is guarded by an immense warhound named Garmr, whose howls will signal the beginning of the end times. It is rumoured that the road to Hell goes northwards and netherwards.

The nails of those who are sentenced to this place are pulled and used in the construction of a grim ship called Naglfar, onboard which Loki will arrive at the head of an army of giants, initiating the final events of Ragnarok, which is the destruction of the world and of gods and men and giants.

Vikings for the win!

God was something of a sadist in the old testament. Thus it follows logically that he is capable of sadistic acts to this day. Or was that part of the bible wrong?
the Old Testament was written when God was an ancient tribal warlord--hes advanced ALOT since the Old Testament

Alright, allow me to make a correction then, God (Jesus) is the exception.

Also, about the mathematical imposibility, your forgetting, your in a world that does not necessarily obey by the same rules as ours (supernatural).

Hell wasn't made for us. Originally made for Satan.

Also, God created us not so that He could condemn us to Hell but so that we could truly love him. (difference between programmed love, and free love)

If a father says we're free to love him or not, but if we don't we get tossed in an oven, is that free love?

the Old Testament was written when God was an ancient tribal warlord--hes advanced ALOT since the Old Testament

??? I seriously disagree with that seeing as that he wasn't all "Die little people!" in the Old Testament. He is pretty much the same person throughout, just different qualities are shown.

While I'm burning in Hell's steam room, Teckor will be standing on a wooden crate in Time Square yelling "THE END IS NEAR!!" and asking for donations to support his cult.. :D

Quit the battle and burn with me baby!

Hell wasn't made for us. Originally made for Satan.

Also, God created us not so that He could condemn us to Hell but so that we could truly love him. (difference between programmed love, and free love)
then Hell whatever it is was made for Satan and his children not for the children of God who at worse will go to some intermediate plane to mediatate on ways to improve their godliness in their next lives

the Old Testament was written when God was an ancient tribal warlord--hes advanced ALOT since the Old Testament

Regardless of the changes undergone by a reputedly omnipotent and omniscient being there is a precedence for violence. He did it before so he can do it again.

It's about like South Park's version of Hell, except better roads.
Ah, yes. The condos, the party, I remember that, heh heh.

Life in Hell:

12:00 AM(Sleep impossible there) Walk around, laughing at shit.

12:30 AM: Get knifed because I laughed at shit.

1:00 AM: Walk to Hitler's place with a cattle prod I stole.

1:30 AM: Zap Hitler's balls with the cattle prod.

2:00 AM: Get beheaded for stealing a cattleprod.

2:30 AM: Go watch the poor souls in the "Eternal Crappy Canceled TV Show Watching" area.

3:00 AM: Breakfast of dried scabs

3:30 AM-12:59 PM: Job(Spit-turner)

1:00 PM: Lunch of Hot coals and hot cola

1:30 PM: Get whipped at the whipping station

2:00 PM: Chat with Satan

2:30 PM: Chat with the demons

3:00 PM: Get kicked in the ass multiple times by a demon wearing a spiked boot.

3:30 PM-9:00 PM: Job, second shift

9:30 PM: Dinner of moldy feces

10:00 PM-11:00 PM: Watch TV (the "Death" channel)

11:30 PM: Get ready to walk around, laugh at shit.

If a father says we're free to love him or not, but if we don't we get tossed in an oven, is that free love?

Yes, we have the choice. Kinda like how you can chose not to accept a gift and get the person upset or sad, or you can accept it.

I never understood the concept of Hell myself, actually. None of the interpretations really made logical sense to me. How can one claimed to be all-forgiving and all-loving or whatnot punish someone who sinned for a very very short time in one "dimension", therefore sentenced to an eternity of pain and suffering. I just don't see a just God doing that.

Now let's say, Satan controls Hell. Why would he want to torture you? If anything, the best way for Satan to get back at God would be to embrace these sinners, and let them spend their eternity doing all the evil sins they did while they were on Earth. It would be like a big :upyours: to the Lord, which is a lot more effective than torturing people that defied the Lord in the first place.

Ok, let's say Satan just likes to be an ass. It goes back to my original statement; why would God send you there because of a few things you did wrong in your mortal life? Why should "non-believers" suffer an eternity because they were never "blessed with the word of God." Not just those who chose not to believe in God in a Western society, but those who never even heard of the word "Christ." And what about Jews? They're going to Hell because they don't think some guy 2000 years ago was their savior.

Perhaps the most disturbing conversation I've ever had with a religious person, I asked who would get into heaven, a serial killer who repents his sins to (the Christian) God right before being put to death, or a Buddhist who lived a peaceful, caring life. Guess what the answer was... :headbang:

I'm sure I'm not understanding something, or maybe there's just nothing understandable to this concept. Please correct me if I'm mistaken with anything...

If a father says we're free to love him or not, but if we don't we get tossed in an oven, is that free love?
a father like that is guilty of child abuse

the Old Testament was written when God was an ancient tribal warlord--hes advanced ALOT since the Old Testament
God has leveled up a lot these last few milennia. :p

Regardless of the changes undergone by a reputedly omnipotent and omniscient being there is a precedence for violence. He did it before so he can do it again.
well hes only human afterall

We're all going to hell. That's a given, but what's the first thing you're going to do when you get there, aside from being raped by a demon?



Assume that hell does exist and only Super Lame Nerds go to heaven.

I would spend my time talking to all the interesting people that are down there.

I never understood the concept of Hell myself, actually. None of the interpretations really made logical sense to me. How can one claimed to be all-forgiving and all-loving or whatnot punish someone who sinned for a very very short time in one "dimension", therefore sentenced to an eternity of pain and suffering. I just don't see a just God doing that.

Now let's say, Satan controls Hell. Why would he want to torture you? If anything, the best way for Satan to get back at God would be to embrace these sinners, and let them spend their eternity doing all the evil sins they did while they were on Earth. It would be like a big :upyours: to the Lord, which is a lot more effective than torturing people that defied the Lord in the first place.

Ok, let's say Satan just likes to be an ass. It goes back to my original statement; why would God send you there because of a few things you did wrong in your mortal life? Why should "non-believers" suffer an eternity because they were never "blessed with the word of God." Not just those who chose not to believe in God in a Western society, but those who never even heard of the word "Christ." And what about Jews? They're going to Hell because they don't think some guy 2000 years ago was their savior.

Perhaps the most disturbing conversation I've ever had with a religious person, I asked who would get into heaven, a serial killer who repents his sins to (the Christian) God right before being put to death, or a Buddhist who lived a peaceful, caring life. Guess what the answer was... :headbang:

I'm sure I'm not understanding something, or maybe there's just nothing understandable to this concept. Please correct me if I'm mistaken with anything...

Justice.

God had set rules which we had the choice to follow or not. We decided to break them. However, God is not content to just leave us all to die and suffer, so he made a way back to Him.

About the Jews, I don't know about today, whether or not their going to Hell.

And yes, if a serial killer asked/repented, he would go to Heaven. (If seriously and truly accepts that what he did was wrong, etc).

First thing I plan to do upon reaching hell is say hello to my mother (Satan, if you didn't know), then go visit my Unkie Grim (Yes, the Grim Reaper is my uncle), and visit my good friend--and fuck buddy :3--Asmodeus.

Hm... It's been a long time since I even visited Mother... Must make plans to do that soon...

Yes, we have the choice. Kinda like how you can chose not to accept a gift and get the person upset or sad, or you can accept it.

It's not much of a choice, it boils down to *puts on a dramatic godlike voice*'Do what I say and live how I tell you to or you'll burn in hell for all of eternity! Now who's your deity?!'

a father like that is guilty of child abuse

How so? Are your parents then responsible if something bad happens to you because of a mistake that you made which they explicitly warned you against?

Yes, we have the choice. Kinda like how you can chose not to accept a gift and get the person upset or sad, or you can accept it.
except that the upset and sad person doesnt put you in an oven...

well hes only human afterall
:p
We need a laughing smilie.

well, if Super Lame Nerds go to heaven...


then I'm in Heaven.... and also very, very lonely.

Well, if that is true, consider me the Pope.

:p

I like the headbanger.
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

Do EMOs go to hell?

It's not much of a choice, it boils down to *puts on a dramatic godlike voice*'Do what I say and live how I tell you to or you'll burn in hell for all of eternity! Now who's your deity?!'

Our law system isn't any better, as a matter of fact, it's worse than that.

Our school system isn't much better, they say "Do as we say or we fail you!" and hence ruin your career.

God has leveled up a lot these last few milennia. :p
and he can regenerate too

How so? Are your parents then responsible if something bad happens to you because of a mistake that you made which they explicitly warned you against?

Yes, if it's within their power to remove the possibility of that mistake.

except that the upset and sad person doesnt put you in an oven...

No, but he might decide to get even as human beings are known to do.

Also, if you get your parents upset, they're gonna punish you (ie: throw out of house, grounding, corpral punishment, etc).

How so? Are your parents then responsible if something bad happens to you because of a mistake that you made which they explicitly warned you against?

If that "something bad" is done by them to you, and on the level with having you tortured for all eternity, then yeah, they are guilty of child abuse.

Personally, I don't believe in hell. But then, my religion isn't fundamentalist Christianity.

How so? Are your parents then responsible if something bad happens to you because of a mistake that you made which they explicitly warned you against?
No but even my parents wouldnt put me in an Oven--(not yet at least)

Our law system isn't any better, as a matter of fact, it's worse than that.

Our school system isn't much better, they say "Do as we say or we fail you!" and hence ruin your career.

If your law system is worse than eternal torment, I don't want to live in your country.

Then again, you appear to consider a ruined career (because of own lazyness,) almost as bad as eternal torment...

IT IS NOT A FUN PLACE. YOU DO NOT GET TO HAVE FUN.


I'd like a source on this, please. Preferrably something scholarly with at least 2 other concurring opinions.

Yes, if it's within their power to remove the possibility of that mistake.

But then what about free choice. FREEDOM I SAY FREEDOM, as long as it doesnt make me responsible. However, that's the price of freedom and choice, responsiblitly.

Also, if you don't listen to your parents, how do you expect them to keep you from harm.

I think this is the fastes growing thread in General.. Ever.

Wasnt this thread suppose to be fun?

How so? Are your parents then responsible if something bad happens to you because of a mistake that you made which they explicitly warned you against?

If my mom told me not to climb the tree in the yard, and I climbed it anyway and fell and knocked myself unconsious, she would have taken me to the hospital. When I got better, she would have made sure my butt was as sore as my head, but that's a far cry from Hell.

:p
We need a laughing smilie.
well if we're Gods children then do the math;)

I'd like a source on this, please. Preferrably something scholarly with at least 2 other concurring opinions.

Try the Bible and how it repeatedly talks about the unsaved being "tossed" into it, and it being known to be described as having "fire and brimstone".

Our law system isn't any better, as a matter of fact, it's worse than that.

Our school system isn't much better, they say "Do as we say or we fail you!" and hence ruin your career.

Perhaps, but what does that have to do with my point? Surely god should be able to come up with a fairer system than 'do this or burn in hell'

I'd like a source on this, please. Preferrably something scholarly with at least 2 other concurring opinions.
Teh source. (http://www.italianstudies.org/comedy/index.htm)

Try the Bible and how it repeatedly talks about the unsaved being "tossed" into it, and it being known to be described as having "fire and brimstone".

The Bible is not a scholarly source. Even the Pope says it isn't. Try again.

If my mom told me not to climb the tree in the yard, and I climbed it anyway and fell and knocked myself unconsious, she would have taken me to the hospital. When I got better, she would have made sure my butt was as sore as my head, but that's a far cry from Hell.

The point though is similar, God offers us comfort, but we have to accept it. If you fell and broke your leg but didn't accept any help then why would you complain about nobody helping you when you refuse?

Do EMOs go to hell?
no they go to heaven where they spend all their time whining and being suicidal cause theyre not in Hell

But then what about free choice. FREEDOM I SAY FREEDOM, as long as it doesnt make me responsible. However, that's the price of freedom and choice, responsiblitly.

Show me a kid who grows up to be exactly like his parents raised him to be and I'll show you a fat nerd in love with his mother.

Actually, i think you are all taking this "fire and brimstone" thing much too literally. The actual definition of hell is eternal seperation from God. And, since God is the source of all good, you'd end up in a state of eternal suffering. But i think Jesus said something about the condemned being released from hell someday, but if you still choose to believe that hell is all suffering, forever, just pretend the title of this thread is "Things to do when in Purgatory"

If that "something bad" is done by them to you, and on the level with having you tortured for all eternity, then yeah, they are guilty of child abuse.

Personally, I don't believe in hell. But then, my religion isn't fundamentalist Christianity.

So, you don't think that we should have a law system then, since the law causes harm to people who do bad things.

Show me a kid who grows up to be exactly like his parents raised him to be and I'll show you a fat nerd in love with his mother.
Hey! I never gave you permission to drag me into this!

No, but he might decide to get even as human beings are known to do.

Also, if you get your parents upset, they're gonna punish you (ie: throw out of house, grounding, corpral punishment, etc).
but the concept of eternal punishment just doesnt add up as being very christian

But then what about free choice. FREEDOM I SAY FREEDOM, as long as it doesnt make me responsible. However, that's the price of freedom and choice, responsiblitly.

Also, if you don't listen to your parents, how do you expect them to keep you from harm.

Me and my parents isn't a very apt analogy. My parents don't have unlimited power over time, space and the universe. If they did I don't even need to wonder if I'd ever be in any danger in any way ever again. God however does have that power, and he chooses to horde it away and not use it to save his people that he so loves.

Hey! I never gave you permission to drag me into this!

*sheepish* Sorry ....

Try the Bible and how it repeatedly talks about the unsaved being "tossed" into it, and it being known to be described as having "fire and brimstone".
did it ever occur to you that it could be symbolic of something else Mr Dogma?

Justice.

God had set rules which we had the choice to follow or not. We decided to break them. However, God is not content to just leave us all to die and suffer, so he made a way back to Him.

About the Jews, I don't know about today, whether or not their going to Hell.

And yes, if a serial killer asked/repented, he would go to Heaven. (If seriously and truly accepts that what he did was wrong, etc).

Yet what justice is there when one is sent to Hell for not even getting the chance of knowing God? Think of the billions of people who must have died over the years while Christianity was still spreading from East to West that never knew of Christ. Do all those innocent people deserve the divine Justice of a God they never knew? Now, I can understand justice for things that are just plain wrong (murder, rape, etc) or even in complete defiance of God (preaching hatred of God, converting, etc) but I cannot see how God sending someone to Hell just because they either A) Didn't know he existed or B) just chose not to worship him for whatever reason, if they lived a good, honest life.

And unless we're talking about a Dante's Inferno situation where they're different "degrees" of Hell, I don't even see how sending every sinner to the same place for different sins is Justice either. And AFAIK, there's a pretty black and white definition of Hell in the Bible. Either you're there, or you're not.

Actually, i think you are all taking this "fire and brimstone" thing much too literally. The actual definition of hell is eternal seperation from God. And, since God is the source of all good, you'd end up in a state of eternal suffering. But i think Jesus said something about the condemned being released from hell someday, but if you still choose to believe that hell is all suffering, forever, just pretend the title of this thread is "Things to do when in Purgatory"

But then we are allowing people to continue on being misinformed of the facts (religiously) about what Hell actually means.

About Jesus releasing people from Hell, I think your confused about either the final judgement where God pretty much goes over your sentence one more time, or your thinking about where Jesus "descended" into Hell to bring those in Abraham's Bosom to Heaven (Abraham's bosom is a holding place that is essentially Purgatory, only it is now empty according to the CHristian faith and it was meant for those who believed before Christ came)

Well if hell is an eternal torture chamber/prison... I'd break out, theres no such thing as a perfect defence and if I can't die then I can come up with the craziest plans ever, sounds like fun. I like a challenge.
btw if god is like the god in the bible he's a two-faced, back-talking, double-standard, racist, evil asshole... in our image.

it was meant for those who believed before Christ came

People who believed in Jesus before there was a Jesus?

Isn't predicting the future a damnable sin? *coff*

Me and my parents isn't a very apt analogy. My parents don't have unlimited power over time, space and the universe. If they did I don't even need to wonder if I'd ever be in any danger in any way ever again. God however does have that power, and he chooses to horde it away and not use it to save his people that he so loves.
well according to some peoples conception of God but alot of peoples understanding of God is a bit more sophisticated then Fundamentalists version of a Fear-Based God

People who believed in Jesus before there was a Jesus?
Its Canadian Christianity. One step above the Mormons. :p

People who believed in Jesus before there was a Jesus?

Isn't predicting the future a damnable sin? *coff*

It's like eating meat on a Friday, depends what mood god is in.

Yet what justice is there when one is sent to Hell for not even getting the chance of knowing God? Think of the billions of people who must have died over the years while Christianity was still spreading from East to West that never knew of Christ. Do all those innocent people deserve the divine Justice of a God they never knew? Now, I can understand justice for things that are just plain wrong (murder, rape, etc) or even in complete defiance of God (preaching hatred of God, converting, etc) but I cannot see how God sending someone to Hell just because they either A) Didn't know he existed or B) just chose not to worship him for whatever reason, if they lived a good, honest life.

And unless we're talking about a Dante's Inferno situation where they're different "degrees" of Hell, I don't even see how sending every sinner to the same place for different sins is Justice either. And AFAIK, there's a pretty black and white definition of Hell in the Bible. Either you're there, or you're not.

Actually, I read something interesting about that. That that wouldn't be just, clearly, but God has made it known to us (there are verses for this too) that he is there and that he exists. So either your tried according to Jesus or according to God (essentially Old Testament), but either way, you know what is right and wrong.

Sin is sin. If it's a tiny sin, it'll still land you in Hell. If it's murder it'll still land you in Hell. If you break a law, no matter how you look at it, you've broken a law. Furthermore, it may not seem to make sense, but to put it in perspective, we pretty much send every criminal (no matter what it is) to jail for some time period.

Its Canadian Christianity. One step above the Mormons. :p

Ooooooh .... *nods sagely*

The point though is similar, God offers us comfort, but we have to accept it. If you fell and broke your leg but didn't accept any help then why would you complain about nobody helping you when you refuse?

Assuming that my mom didn't force me to accept help, sooner or later, no matter how stubborn I was, I would - after the injury of course. And I know my mom would help me. Under that principle, God would pull the sinners out of Hell when they repented, and if they were getting fried it wouldn't take them very long.

It's like eating meat on a Friday, depends what mood god is in.

Pfft ... just tickle his beard a little. Makes him purr like a walrus.

Although, from what I've read, it looks like when you really, seriously piss off God (like Cain did), he "punishes" you with immortality. Now who wouldn't want that?

well according to some peoples conception of God but alot of peoples understanding of God is a bit more sophisticated then Fundamentalists version of a Fear-Based God

What is this sophisticated something?

but the concept of eternal punishment just doesnt add up as being very christian

And disobeying God doesn't seem very smart either, but we did it.

Furthermore, as mentioned before, because of our disobeyment, we are separated from God. So where else are we gonna go?

People who believed in Jesus before there was a Jesus?

Isn't predicting the future a damnable sin? *coff*
You and your elitist college thoughts.

eternal damnation is a Big Lie started by the Political Church of the Middle Ages to terrify people into being slaves of the Church-State

Assuming that my mom didn't force me to accept help, sooner or later, no matter how stubborn I was, I would - after the injury of course. And I know my mom would help me. Under that principle, God would pull the sinners out of Hell when they repented, and if they were getting fried it wouldn't take them very long.
unless they're also very stubborn. kindof like cutting your nose off to spite your face...

Pfft ... just tickle his beard a little. Makes him purr like a walrus.

Although, from what I've read, it looks like when you really, seriously piss off God (like Cain did), he "punishes" you with immortality. Now who wouldn't want that?

??? God didn't grant Cain imortailty, he placed (essentially) a curse on him. (whoever killed Cain would be killed, and so on in a repetative manner for seven times.)

eternal damnation is a Big Lie started by the Political Church of the Middle Ages to terrify people into being slaves

Maybe, but the Bible was written before the middle ages.

What is this sophisticated something?
the True Understanding of God is to realize that he is our Higher Selves

unless they're also very stubborn. kindof like cutting your nose off to spite your face...

And even then, it's kinda late to change your plea after the trial.

Actually, I read something interesting about that. That that wouldn't be just, clearly, but God has made it known to us (there are verses for this too) that he is there and that he exists. So either your tried according to Jesus or according to God (essentially Old Testament), but either way, you know what is right and wrong.

Sin is sin. If it's a tiny sin, it'll still land you in Hell. If it's murder it'll still land you in Hell. If you break a law, no matter how you look at it, you've broken a law. Furthermore, it may not seem to make sense, but to put it in perspective, we pretty much send every criminal (no matter what it is) to jail for some time period.


You're first statement confused me. Are you saying that God has instilled in us to just "know" that He exists, and has given us a personal choice to find Him? Therefore, wouldn't there be much less variation in religion from culture to culture? If God has instilled in all of us the same choice, wouldn't more people choose that?

And your second statement is flawed. First there's warnings, probations, fines. Then theres county jail, state prisons, federal pens. There's minimum security, moderate, and maximum security jails. There's solitary confinement. There's the death penalty. I've personally been to both a county and state prison, and they are VERY different. (No, not what you were thinking, both were school trips.)

the True Understanding of God is to realize that he is our Higher Selves

Not to be pointed, but I'm guessing that either your an Atheist or some other more obscure religion.

But still, I personally do not believe that.

Im guessing Im gonna cuss a whole alot, should be fun.

the True Understanding of God is to realize that he is our Higher Selves
interesting, would you care to explain that a little more?

eternal damnation is a Big Lie started by the Political Church of the Middle Ages to terrify people into being slaves of the Church-State

Then eternal happiness and a place in heaven could very well be a political lie too. In fact how can you possibly distinguish between the truth about god and the possible lies?

Oh and source?

And disobeying God doesn't seem very smart either, but we did it.

Furthermore, as mentioned before, because of our disobeyment, we are separated from God. So where else are we gonna go?
separation is punishment itself--putting someone into an eternal oven is a bit overkill even for the most gruesome tyrant on earth--its kinda hard to imagine a Superior Being doing it

??? God didn't grant Cain imortailty, he placed (essentially) a curse on him. (whoever killed Cain would be killed, and so on in a repetative manner for seven times.)

Can't be killed by anyone seems like immortality to me. Smart of Cain to add that little thing. What I think happened was when it came time for Cain to die naturally, God realised that he was now slaying Cain and set about punishing himself.

Now God's stuck in this infinite loop which has allowed people to come up with all manner of crazy ideas about virgin births, magic powers, burning bushes, zombies, and bowing to boxes.

Maybe, but the Bible was written before the middle ages.
but re-interpreted in the Middle Ages and Politicized by evil Popes and rightwing elements within the church state

the True Understanding of God is to realize that he is our Higher Selves

That made me think of Scientology, where we're all supposedly omnipotent beings(thetans if memory serves), we just forgot about it.

Where did you get this understanding from?

Although, from what I've read, it looks like when you really, seriously piss off God (like Cain did), he "punishes" you with immortality.
*L*
??? God didn't grant Cain imortailty, he placed (essentially) a curse on him. (whoever killed Cain would be killed, and so on in a repetative manner for seven times.)
He had the mark of Nod on him, which is means wandering, and thus we can infer that Cain was granted immortality. Nobody could kill Cain because he's supposed to suffer death but never actually die, thus the seven times thing. On a side note, anyone who wasn't under a rock in the '90s knows that Cain had something to do with the USSR and a terrorist organization.
Oh and source?
I've mentioned it at least twice, but everyone likes arguing too frakkin' much to care. :rolleyes:

I suppose weeping and teeth-gnashing would get old. I suppose it'd be a great place to toast marshmallows.

Bear in mind:

a)Hell is really hot, so the roasting stick needs to be made of something like Kevlar or steel

b)Steel, at least, gets really, really hot when it's in a hot environment... so make sure you use oven mitts to handle the rod.

You're first statement confused me. Are you saying that God has instilled in us to just "know" that He exists, and has given us a personal choice to find Him? Therefore, wouldn't there be much less variation in religion from culture to culture? If God has instilled in all of us the same choice, wouldn't more people choose that?

And your second statement is flawed. First there's warnings, probations, fines. Then theres county jail, state prisons, federal pens. There's minimum security, moderate, and maximum security jails. There's solitary confinement. There's the death penalty. I've personally been to both a county and state prison, and they are VERY different. (No, not what you were thinking, both were school trips.)

God has instilled the knowledge that there is a God in us. And there isn't as much variation as you think. All or most involve the belief of a supernatural being that is higher than us.

Flawed in detail but essentially true. Every criminal goes to a "jail" of some sort, the only reason why there are different levels is because of security risks, etc. but when there is no real security risk, and only one real crime, then one place.

And even then, it's kinda late to change your plea after the trial.

Under our law, a pickpocket doesn't get the same sentence as a serial killer. According to the Bible, ALL sinners go to Hell forever, even if their only sin was a little white lie in 2nd grade.

interesting, would you care to explain that a little more?
I think Mormons believe that God was human but reached a higher form.

I suppose weeping and teeth-gnashing would get old. I suppose it'd be a great place to toast marshmallows.

Bear in mind:

a)Hell is really hot, so the roasting stick needs to be made of something like Kevlar or steel

b)Steel, at least, gets really, really hot when it's in a hot environment... so make sure you use oven mitts to handle the rod.

Unfortunately, I think its hot enough to melt steel :)

I'm going to find the best form of the worst wine and attempt to make it better...

Under our law, a pickpocket doesn't get the same sentence as a serial killer. According to the Bible, ALL sinners go to Hell forever, even if their only sin was a little white lie in 2nd grade.

Yes, because a sin is a sin. A sin is a disobediance of God's rules.

Not to be pointed, but I'm guessing that either your an Atheist or some other more obscure religion.

But still, I personally do not believe that.
Im not an atheist in any concept of the word and its sad that you refuse to embrace your inner Deity

I've mentioned it at least twice, but everyone likes arguing too frakkin' much to care. :rolleyes:
:confused:
I asked MustaphaMond516 his source for eternal damnation being a big political lie.

Yes, because a sin is a sin. A sin is a disobediance of God's rules.
You forgot the little bit where the person has to know that they are not doing God's will. We are not born knowing the 10 Commandments or the Golden Rule.

Yes, because a sin is a sin. A sin is a disobediance of God's rules.

Biblically speaking:

All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

Jesus was sent as the way to avoid destruction -- through his blood, sin can be washed away and our eternal souls forgiven.

I asked MustaphaMond516 his source for eternal damnation being a big political lie.
Oh. Well, I recommend consulting Luther on that one. ;)

All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

Best. Cop-out. Evar.

Jesus was sent as the way to avoid destruction -- through his blood, sin can be washed away and our eternal souls forgiven.

Ok that's just gross.

interesting, would you care to explain that a little more?
we all have the exact same powers of creation that God has which is why its very important to regulate how we feel and think since that is how we manifest things into existence

Yes, because a sin is a sin. A sin is a disobediance of God's rules.
I like to think that God will take the time to consider exactly what my sin was before completely cutting me off forever. It hurts Him too, ya know.

Jesus was sent as the way to avoid destruction -- through his blood, sin can be washed away and our eternal souls forgiven.
If one believes in the whole 'blood of Christ' stuff. Red wine under the codename of 'blood' is a surefire salvation getter, too. No bathing in blood is actually required.

That made me think of Scientology, where we're all supposedly omnipotent beings(thetans if memory serves), we just forgot about it.

Where did you get this understanding from?
from the same Light that animates us all

we all have the exact same powers of creation that God has which is why its very important to regulate how we feel and think since that is how we manifest things into existence
Somehow I think this guy :confused: is an understatement.You believe that everyone can create anything of their own free will, just cause it to manifest itself? If that were true people would lie on extremely comfortable beds for all their lives manifesting great food to eat and gorgeous people to sleep with. And don't forget about the infinite amount of alcohol.

Then eternal happiness and a place in heaven could very well be a political lie too. In fact how can you possibly distinguish between the truth about god and the possible lies?

Oh and source?
if it feels wrong its a Lie--theres no source thats reliable that doesnt come from within us first

from the same Light that animates us all
*must.....not....flame*
What light is this?

if it feels wrong its a Lie--theres no source thats reliable that doesnt come from within us first

But lies come from us, people are imperfect. Just because you 'feel' that eternal damaniton was made up in the middle ages to get converts and control the populace does not make it so.

I think Mormons believe that God was human but reached a higher form.
then they are right however I dont adhere to any organized religion

God has instilled the knowledge that there is a God in us. And there isn't as much variation as you think. All or most involve the belief of a supernatural being that is higher than us.

Flawed in detail but essentially true. Every criminal goes to a "jail" of some sort, the only reason why there are different levels is because of security risks, etc. but when there is no real security risk, and only one real crime, then one place.

My study in anthropology would contend otherwise with your first statement. While most religions have a belief of a supernatural power, the morals that are evident in the culture of their respective religion are far too varied. There are many cultures that practice and condone many activities that Christians would consider sins (the worship of idols, homosexuality, incest, beastiality, fornication, murder, etc).


And if you are saying that sin, in itself, is "sin", therefore all the same "crime", then I think I understand more clearly. However, this still goes against my own personal morals, but that's a matter of my own opinion.

:confused:
I asked MustaphaMond516 his source for eternal damnation being a big political lie.
the only source that matters is the one that comes from within us all--those who look for outside confirmation disempowers themselfs

then they are right however I dont adhere to any organized religion

You believing it does not make it true.

Somehow I think this guy :confused: is an understatement.You believe that everyone can create anything of their own free will, just cause it to manifest itself? If that were true people would lie on extremely comfortable beds for all their lives manifesting great food to eat and gorgeous people to sleep with. And don't forget about the infinite amount of alcohol.
True--that and eternal youth is all within the Realm of Possibility for those who use their energies correctly altho I think that you can precipitate something into existence to bring you great joy thats far superior to alcohol

the only source that matters is the one that comes from within us all--those who look for outside confirmation disempowers themselfs

That is nonsense. How can everything I think is true possibly be when it contradicts with what someone else believes thinks to be true?(asuming the two things in question are mutually exclusive) There are huge amounts of people who believe ther is only one god, there are hug amounts of others who believe there are many gods. By your logic if they ignore all sources outside themselves they are all right and there is both one god and many simultaneously.

But lies come from us, people are imperfect. Just because you 'feel' that eternal damaniton was made up in the middle ages to get converts and control the populace does not make it so.

But people are also those who wrote down the Words of God. Therefore, your logic can apply to them as well.

True--that and eternal youth is all within the Realm of Possibility for those who use their energies correctly altho I think that you can precipitate something into existence to bring you great joy thats far superior to alcohol

If people have these powers how is it that nobody but you knows about it and neither you nor anyone else can use these powers?

*must.....not....flame*
What light is this?
the Light that nourishes our Etheric Bodys thru our crown Chakras

But people are also those who wrote down the Words of God. Therefore, your logic can apply to them as well.

It most certainly does apply to them. The people who wrote the Bible may very well have been doing it for their own personal gain. I wouldn't know, I wasn't there.

But lies come from us, people are imperfect. Just because you 'feel' that eternal damaniton was made up in the middle ages to get converts and control the populace does not make it so.
well thats why we shouldnt use our four lower bodies for thinking

You believing it does not make it true.
yes Im afraid it does--but the same goes for you

the Light that nourishes our Etheric Bodys thru our crown Chakras
Why can our 'Etheric'(ethereal?) bodies carry out photosynthesis and these bodies cannot?

yes Im afraid it does--but the same goes for you

I believe that you are wrong.

That is nonsense. How can everything I think is true possibly be when it contradicts with what someone else believes thinks to be true?(asuming the two things in question are mutually exclusive) There are huge amounts of people who believe ther is only one god, there are hug amounts of others who believe there are many gods. By your logic if they ignore all sources outside themselves they are all right and there is both one god and many simultaneously.
correct

everything we believe and think and feel is Alive and living quite horribly and/or exstatically on a parallel level.

correct

everything we believe and think and feel is Alive and living quite horribly and/or exstatically on a parallel level.
Someone has been watching too much "fosters home for imaginary friends"...

If people have these powers how is it that nobody but you knows about it and neither you nor anyone else can use these powers?
Im not the only one with this knowledge by far and I can use these powers just like we all could

Why can our 'Etheric'(ethereal?) bodies carry out photosynthesis and these bodies cannot?
cause theirs a hieracrhcy of bodies we possess

Things to do when in hell? I don't plan on ever being in West Texas. I'm in purgatory now (North Dakota) and that's as close as I'd like to get.

Oh that's cold....:upyours:
But. The first thing that I would like to spend the rest of forever trying to do is licking my elbow...That should take a good 30 years or so. Then for about 6 weeks I'd spend toning my ass. Yeahhh:D

Im not the only one with this knowledge by far and I can use these powers just like we all could

Then I want a lobster, one of those wierd furry lobsters. You have the power to make things manifest out of nothingness, manifest me a furry lobster. Alive and in a cage on the floor in front of me. Chop chop.

I believe that you are wrong.
that is your free will but im sure your higher bodies wouldnt agree

Then I want a lobster, one of those wierd furry lobsters. You have the power to make things manifest out of nothingness, manifest me a furry lobster. Alive and in a cage on the floor in front of me. Chop chop.
you shouldnt accept miracles from strangers

you shouldnt accept miracles from strangers
I dont care, make a clone of yourself that believes the opposite of what you do.:gundge:

you shouldnt accept miracles from strangers

As strange as you are I fully accept the consequences of you manifesting a live caged furry lobster into my living room. Assuming you can do it of course.

You shouldn't accept miracles from strangers.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4354/grammerpolice2th.png
The Grammar Police, blah blah, something about grammar, and uber, blah.

I would continue my grammar policing in hell. And get mad bitchez. Yo.

^
And as for the lobsters, I would definatly agree with you. Even hairy lobsters taste good.

The Grammar Police, blah blah, something about grammar, and uber, blah.
Whom is your Messiah?

Whom is your Messiah?
I'd say it's grammar hitler, king o' grammar nazis.

Whom is your Messiah?

This guy:

http://www.unlc.biz/images/Southern_Wolf.gif

(This is a repost. I really would like to hear what some people have to say about it. Sorry, I'm just strange like that. :3)

First thing I plan to do upon reaching hell is say hello to my mother (Satan, if you didn't know), then go visit my Unkie Grim (Yes, the Grim Reaper is my uncle), and visit my good friend--and fuck buddy :3--Asmodeus.

Hm... It's been a long time since I even visited Mother... Must make plans to do that soon...

First, I will roast some marshmallows over the infinitely hot flames. Then, I will create a political party and round up some followers. We'll campaign for a bit, and, when I get bored, I will bake some brownies in the shape of Oscar Wilde, and sell them in exchange for Stephen Harper's tonsils, which will go on display in my Conservatives in Hell museum. Then, I will find my chem teacher and catch up on those labs I missed while learning about human nature/ checking out hot guys in Germany, the Netherlands, and the Alps.

I'd say it's grammar hitler, king o' grammar nazis.
I take that offenseively (OMG THE GRAMMAR POLICE CAN'T SPELL!)!! I am the Grammar Police, not a Grammar Nazi. Grammar Nazi's wear uniforms, and all I can draw is a stick figure with a British police helmet.

I dont care, make a clone of yourself that believes the opposite of what you do.:gundge:
a doppleganger?
we're supposed to Kill those on sight

As strange as you are I fully accept the consequences of you manifesting a live caged furry lobster into my living room. Assuming you can do it of course.
Im not up to that level of mainfesting yet--but Im sure, in fact I know it can be done by an Ascended Master

However should one appear in your Living room I trust that youll have the inegrity to let us all know about it

a doppleganger?
we're supposed to Kill those on sight

hey I still don't have a furry lobster in a cage. Feck you doppelganger nonsense and manifest me a furry lobster!

I take that offenseively (OMG THE GRAMMAR POLICE CAN'T SPELL!)!! I am the Grammar Police, not a Grammar Nazi. Grammar Nazi's wear uniforms, and all I can draw is a stick figure with a British police helmet.

if you were the Grammar Police, you'd know not to add an apostrophe to a non-possessive plural noun.

hehe

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4354/grammerpolice2th.png
The Grammar Police, blah blah, something about grammar, and uber, blah.

I would continue my grammar policing in hell. And get mad bitchez. Yo.

^
And as for the lobsters, I would definatly agree with you. Even hairy lobsters taste good.
Im not seeing the wrong grammer

Im not up to that level of mainfesting yet--but Im sure, in fact I know it can be done by an Ascended Master

However should one appear in your Living room I trust that youll have the inegrity to let us all know about it

Well manifest something into my living room.

Of course I'll tell you, if I find out that people really can make stuff appear out of thin air I'll be pestering you about how to do it for ages. You or that Ascended Master guy.

Whom is your Messiah?
in his case it looks like the Power of the written words

(This is a repost. I really would like to hear what some people have to say about it. Sorry, I'm just strange like that. :3)

First thing I plan to do upon reaching hell is say hello to my mother (Satan, if you didn't know), then go visit my Unkie Grim (Yes, the Grim Reaper is my uncle), and visit my good friend--and fuck buddy :3--Asmodeus.

Hm... It's been a long time since I even visited Mother... Must make plans to do that soon...
this is a perfect example of how the Bible is written

it has no meaning except what we find in it

hey I still don't have a furry lobster in a cage. Feck you doppelganger nonsense and manifest me a furry lobster!
do you really want to eat a lobster with all that public hair

Well manifest something into my living room.

Of course I'll tell you, if I find out that people really can make stuff appear out of thin air I'll be pestering you about how to do it for ages. You or that Ascended Master guy.
YOU can do it too if only you levetate your feelings of disbelief

do you really want to eat a lobster with all that public hair

Public hair? As opposed to private hair?

And I'm not gonna eat it, they just look cool and I want one.

Originally Posted by Ramissle
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4...rpolice2th.png
The Grammar Police, blah blah, something about grammar, and uber, blah.

I would continue my grammar policing in hell. And get mad bitchez. Yo.

^
And as for the lobsters, I would definatly agree with you. Even hairy lobsters taste good.
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(tongue-in-cheek)

And get mad bitchez.

Comment: This is a fragment, not a sentence. You have the makings of a predicate, but it lacks a subject.
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Yo.

Comment: This is also a fragment.
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grammar policing

Comment: This should be hyphenated, or re-written as something like, "I would continue policing grammar in hell."

As it appears right now, I must ask, "What is it that grammar is policing?"
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There are also spelling oddities:

Bitchez = Bitches

definatly = definitely



:)

Public hair? As opposed to private hair?

And I'm not gonna eat it, they just look cool and I want one.

lol, public hair.

"Honey, you're going bald. Why not pick up some public hair to add to your shiny pate?"

Ah, yes. The condos, the party, I remember that, heh heh.

Life in Hell:

12:00 AM(Sleep impossible there) Walk around, laughing at shit.

12:30 AM: Get knifed because I laughed at shit.

1:00 AM: Walk to Hitler's place with a cattle prod I stole.

1:30 AM: Zap Hitler's balls with the cattle prod.

2:00 AM: Get beheaded for stealing a cattleprod.

2:30 AM: Go watch the poor souls in the "Eternal Crappy Canceled TV Show Watching" area.

3:00 AM: Breakfast of dried scabs

3:30 AM-12:59 PM: Job(Spit-turner)

1:00 PM: Lunch of Hot coals and hot cola

1:30 PM: Get whipped at the whipping station

2:00 PM: Chat with Satan

2:30 PM: Chat with the demons

3:00 PM: Get kicked in the ass multiple times by a demon wearing a spiked boot.

3:30 PM-9:00 PM: Job, second shift

9:30 PM: Dinner of moldy feces

10:00 PM-11:00 PM: Watch TV (the "Death" channel)

11:30 PM: Get ready to walk around, laugh at shit.
Reply fools!

YOU can do it too if only you levetate your feelings of disbelief

if you mean levitate as in make float then you're talking gibberish. If you mean alleviate then that's most likely not gonna happen. Making things appear out of nothingness is a bit too ridiculous for me to believe in.

if you mean levitate as in make float then you're talking gibberish. If you mean alleviate then that's most likely not gonna happen. Making things appear out of nothingness is a bit too ridiculous for me to believe in.

Likewise....levitating is impossible unless you have mag-lev XD

Public hair? As opposed to private hair?

And I'm not gonna eat it, they just look cool and I want one.
HURRY LOOK IN YOUR LIVING ROOM NOW!!!

if you mean levitate as in make float then you're talking gibberish. If you mean alleviate then that's most likely not gonna happen. Making things appear out of nothingness is a bit too ridiculous for me to believe in.
alternate realities want to know why your shunning them

Likewise....levitating is impossible unless you have mag-lev XD
you ARE allowed to leave your body

The first thing I would do in Hell is look up my old buddy, Satan, then go out and PARTY....

HURRY LOOK IN YOUR LIVING ROOM NOW!!!

Can I have one as well?

Its quite apparent that demons have magical powers. The question is one of matter.
Sex is also a physical act. Our spirits cannot have sex. Angels do not have the required equipment to have sex.

thats ridiculous, they have amazing sex beyond human comprehension in every single possible way, sometimes all at once! According to milton that is.

Things to do eh....? how about overthrow saten become saten and used the retired guy as a foot stool then you can give out all the pain and stuff that he does!

Can I have one as well?
this is the 3rd demand made upon me since I got out of Bed
the first was that I had to get out of bed
and the second was that I had to take a shower with my filthy dog and scrub his penis clean with a brush:mad:

I would debate philosophy with Nietzsche, help Tchaikovsky (who was gay and therefore hellbound in traditional Christian theology) keep his concerts louder than those of Ozzy Osbourne's, organize a secret resistance movement to overthrow Satan, and think back to No Exit and Dante for things to watch out for while I'm there.

I would debate philosophy with Nietzsche, help Tchaikovsky (who was gay and therefore hellbound in traditional Christian theology) keep his concerts louder than those of Ozzy Osbourne's, organize a secret resistance movement to overthrow Satan, and think back to No Exit and Dante for things to watch out for while I'm there.
the christian version of Hell (like Saddams WMDS) never existed and is just a medieval example of NeoCon Fearmongering to enslave the minds of the masses

I'd probably die clutching a road map of Hull - at least I would know my way around, I guess.

Turn on the air conditioning (those of us in executive positions have such), pop open a cold beer, and invite all my friends over for a day of torture tv. Hehe maybe taunt some of the hypocritical xians who never followed their religion anyway.

Its quite apparent that demons have magical powers. The question is one of matter.
Sex is also a physical act. Our spirits cannot have sex. Angels do not have the required equipment to have sex.

They do magic to put you in another body.

toast marshmellows and wierners

=^^=
.../\...

toast marshmellows and wierners

=^^=
.../\...
that sounds painful:p

Tis times like these that make me glad God has a sense of humor.


Genesis says God created Heaven and Earth, never Hell. Thus, hell came from somewhere else. Consider, there was a war between Satan and his fallen angels and Mik Ai El(St. Michael, God's right hand man) and his angels still loyal to God. Now, when there is a war, there are battle fields, which are put to ruin. Thus, I believe Hell is that part of the Cosmos scarred by the battles of the Fall. Revelations says Satan was given dominion over Hell. Also, the 'hell' into which Christ descended was not the Hell of modern thought, but Sheol, the ancient word for the purgatory into which saved souls were set to rest to await the arrival of the Messiah, and thus Christ went to say "Oi, you can get up and go now, lads."

Tis times like these that make me glad God has a sense of humor.


Genesis says God created Heaven and Earth, never Hell. Thus, hell came from somewhere else. Consider, there was a war between Satan and his fallen angels and Mik Ai El(St. Michael, God's right hand man) and his angels still loyal to God. Now, when there is a war, there are battle fields, which are put to ruin. Thus, I believe Hell is that part of the Cosmos scarred by the battles of the Fall. Revelations says Satan was given dominion over Hell. Also, the 'hell' into which Christ descended was not the Hell of modern thought, but Sheol, the ancient word for the purgatory into which saved souls were set to rest to await the arrival of the Messiah, and thus Christ went to say "Oi, you can get up and go now, lads."
Did you read that in Hitler's coffee shop? Thats where I saw it anyways..