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From: http://www.vernonbroadcaster.com/articles/2006/03/22/news/00lead.txt

Faced again with controversy over plans for a gay speaker, Viroqua (SW Wisconsin) High School officials have cancelled Diversity Day.

The event, held every two years since 2000 for juniors and seniors, had been set for Thursday.

Scheduled speakers included Hmong, Jewish, Muslim, American Indian, African American, Latino, Buddhist, gay, physically disadvantaged and economically disadvantaged people.

But it was called off late last week after a legal group raised a potential challenge to include a formerly gay or Christian viewpoint.

Fuck diversity. It only gets in the way of straight, white males like me getting the recognition we deserve.

Three words; that is absurd.

Well, I suppose it wouldn't be fitting to have someone talk against a certain form of diversity in the name of diversity.

Well, I suppose it wouldn't be fitting to have someone talk against a certain form of diversity in the name of diversity.
Why not? It doesn't make sense to limit diversity in the name of diversity. It's like Bush and the Republicans limiting rights and wiretapping peple in the name of freedom.

Why not? It doesn't make sense to limit diversity in the name of diversity. It's like Bush and the Republicans limiting rights and wiretapping peple in the name of freedom.It's more like limiting freedom in the name of freedom. It is necessary to limit your rights in freedom in order for you to enjoy them at all, since if anyone was free to murder you, you wouldn't have anything from your other freedoms.
Same with diversity. Christian and "ex-gay" viewpoints are certainly fine and dandy, but to give them a pulpit to denounce homosexual behavior in the name of diversity? Forget it.

Same with diversity. Christian and "ex-gay" viewpoints are certainly fine and dandy, but to give them a pulpit to denounce homosexual behavior in the name of diversity? Forget it.

They should instead be denouced for the bullshit they really are. The so-called "therapies" supposed to "cure" people of gayness are nothing more than negative conditioning. That ends up screwing the poor teens even more, and they finish by loathing themselve and having unsafe sex practices in an attempt of autodestruction.

If I recall, there was a NYC journalit whose specialty was finding all the "ex gay" poster boys for those therapies, and they were systematically back into the gay world, and most of them with drug or alcohol problems.

I still don't get how it's acceptable in some states to attempt to "cure" something that is scientifically proven NOT to be a disease or disorder. The prejudice of some people defy all reasoning.

It's more like limiting freedom in the name of freedom. It is necessary to limit your rights in freedom in order for you to enjoy them at all, since if anyone was free to murder you, you wouldn't have anything from your other freedoms.
Same with diversity. Christian and "ex-gay" viewpoints are certainly fine and dandy, but to give them a pulpit to denounce homosexual behavior in the name of diversity? Forget it.
Exactly. Did Diversity Day also give a platform for neo-nazis and racists? The fact is the "ex-gay viewpoint" actually comes from a movement deliberately focused on eliminating a particular group from society.

And anyway, if these people claim that they gave up being different and joined the mainstream majority, well, then they're not very good representatives of diversity, now are they?

*shrug* I need diversity as much as a fish needs a bicycle.

From: http://www.vernonbroadcaster.com/articles/2006/03/22/news/00lead.txt

Faced again with controversy over plans for a gay speaker, Viroqua (SW Wisconsin) High School officials have cancelled Diversity Day.

The event, held every two years since 2000 for juniors and seniors, had been set for Thursday.

Scheduled speakers included Hmong, Jewish, Muslim, American Indian, African American, Latino, Buddhist, gay, physically disadvantaged and economically disadvantaged people.

But it was called off late last week after a legal group raised a potential challenge to include a formerly gay or Christian viewpoint.
The word "diversity" is often nothing more than a cover for "We really don't know what to do about people being so diffierent from each other, so we'll just slap a label on it and make an entire social movement about it."

I despise labels.

And anyway, if these people claim that they gave up being different and joined the mainstream majority, well, then they're not very good representatives of diversity, now are they?

"in honor of diversity day, here is a white male heterosexual christian businessman that works in middle management"

If we all wore white cloaks and hoods with red crosses on the front, then we wouldn't need diversity. :)

If we all wore white cloaks and hoods with red crosses on the front, then we wouldn't need diversity. :)
That idea rocks! What would you call it?? Could I burn stuff??

Scheduled speakers included Hmong, Jewish, Muslim, American Indian, African American, Latino, Buddhist, gay, physically disadvantaged and economically disadvantaged people.
Why are these the only types of people considered "diverse"? There are far fewer rich people than poor people, so why are they not "diverse"? Why are Christians or "British Americans" not "diverse"? The sooner we stop highlighting irrelevent differences measured against some absurd notion of what is "normal" the sooner we properly start to get over prejudice and stop just inverting it.

Why are these the only types of people considered "diverse"? There are far fewer rich people than poor people, so why are they not "diverse"? Why are Christians or "British Americans" not "diverse"? The sooner we stop highlighting irrelevent differences measured against some absurd notion of what is "normal" the sooner we properly start to get over prejudice and stop just inverting it.

Amen!

Who in their right mind actually thinks a bunch of high school aged kids even give a fuck about this kind of shit? I bet not one kid outside of the planning commitee or whatever care about this beyond the class time they now are not going to miss. Hell, I bet some of them realise just how transparent all the bullshit is.

it is silly that they are worried about ex-gay or christian views being espoused.

Maybe they are just worried about the ex-gay speaker saying somethign that will cause a riot or something.

I would suspect that an ex-gay Christian would be offering to help 'save' the soon to be damned Gays for their sinful lifestyle.

Just a guess but Christianity is not in any sort of minority and neither are non-gays.

Wow. How absurd. Yeah, let's provide speaking time for the anti-diversity viewpoint! We can split it up for 15-minute speeches by Aryan Nations, the KKK, and Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church! Morons. Presenting the viewpoint of xenophobic (which covers homophobic, racist, virulently theocentric or ethnocentric, etc.) groups with goals of supressing diversity - in the name of diversity - makes no sense whatsoever. It'd be like inviting Stalin to the American Democratic Principles Convention in order to hear another viewpoint.

Wow. How absurd. Yeah, let's provide speaking time for the anti-diversity viewpoint! We can split it up for 15-minute speeches by Aryan Nations, the KKK, and Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church! Morons. Presenting the viewpoint of xenophobic (which covers homophobic, racist, virulently theocentric or ethnocentric, etc.) groups with goals of supressing diversity - in the name of diversity - makes no sense whatsoever. It'd be like inviting Stalin to the American Democratic Principles Convention in order to hear another viewpoint.
In the name of freedom the ACLU protects the rights of everyone to speak his mind, nazi, kid-toucher, and religious included. I think the same freedom should apply to this "diversity" thing.

In the name of freedom the ACLU protects the rights of everyone to speak his mind, nazi, kid-toucher, and religious included. I think the same freedom should apply to this "diversity" thing.

it was diversity day, a school sponsored event on a particular subject, not "everybody gets to yell at traffic" day. you don't have to let people who believe that sports go against the will of god have equal time at a pep rally.

From: http://www.vernonbroadcaster.com/articles/2006/03/22/news/00lead.txt

Faced again with controversy over plans for a gay speaker, Viroqua (SW Wisconsin) High School officials have cancelled Diversity Day.

The event, held every two years since 2000 for juniors and seniors, had been set for Thursday.

Scheduled speakers included Hmong, Jewish, Muslim, American Indian, African American, Latino, Buddhist, gay, physically disadvantaged and economically disadvantaged people.

But it was called off late last week after a legal group raised a potential challenge to include a formerly gay or Christian viewpoint.

This whole "oppressed Christian majority" thing is such a load of crap. It's right up there with "why don't we have a White History Month?"

It's not diversity if you're making efforts to put the majority on parade. Diversity means that the majority are trying to include the formerly excluded. It isn't diversity if the majority makes a special effort to include itself. Itself is already included. That's the nature of being the majority. All that these groups are trying to do is hog as much of the stage as possible from those for whom a real effort of inclusion is being made.

We should all try to be tolerant, but we must be careful never to become so tolerant that we tolerate intolerance.

Exactly. Did Diversity Day also give a platform for neo-nazis and racists? The fact is the "ex-gay viewpoint" actually comes from a movement deliberately focused on eliminating a particular group from society.

And anyway, if these people claim that they gave up being different and joined the mainstream majority, well, then they're not very good representatives of diversity, now are they?

I was gonna mention the nazis. if the jews get to go its only fair the nazis should too, theres probably (hopefully) even less nazis than jews.

Rather than cancelling the event, couldnt they have just told the ex-gays (or wankers as they are also known) to go fuck themselves?

In the name of freedom the ACLU protects the rights of everyone to speak his mind, nazi, kid-toucher, and religious included. I think the same freedom should apply to this "diversity" thing.

So if you really want to, have a Majority Day, or an Anti-Diversity Day. But it doesn't make any sense to include a group that is at best outside the aegis of diversity by being the majority, and at worst is an anti-diversity group, in a diversity-focused event.