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Hosteges Freed in Iraq

The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 11:50
Two Canadians and One Briton were freed by U.S. forces yesterday in Iraq from their terrorist captors. I wanted to share this awesome story about the good stuff our boys are doing over there, if anyone still questions that. On a sad note the American that was with them was killed before he could be rescued. This is very sad but will only strenghten American resolve to complete this mission that will make America safer and richer.
Digsy
23-03-2006, 11:53
... and richer.

And you almost sounded noble ...
Unified Home
23-03-2006, 12:33
Two Canadians and One Briton were freed by U.S. forces yesterday in Iraq from their terrorist captors. I wanted to share this awesome story about the good stuff our boys are doing over there, if anyone still questions that. On a sad note the American that was with them was killed before he could be rescued. This is very sad but will only strenghten American resolve to complete this mission that will make America safer and richer.

Firstly it was British, Canadian and Iraqi Forces mainly involved and its good to see that our intelligence is getting better!

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1216332,00.html
Seathorn
23-03-2006, 12:33
...and richer.

This is where you lose.
Skinny87
23-03-2006, 12:37
Two Canadians and One Briton were freed by U.S. forces yesterday in Iraq from their terrorist captors. I wanted to share this awesome story about the good stuff our boys are doing over there, if anyone still questions that. On a sad note the American that was with them was killed before he could be rescued. This is very sad but will only strenghten American resolve to complete this mission that will make America safer and richer.

It was mainly British, Canadian and Iraqi forces. Read up more before you post.
Unified Home
23-03-2006, 12:40
It was mainly British, Canadian and Iraqi forces. Read up more before you post.

Errr... I put that! :D
Peisandros
23-03-2006, 12:40
This is where you lose.
This is where you lose shockingly infact.
You really do need to find another forum.
The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 12:41
This is where you lose.
why is that?
The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 12:42
It was mainly British, Canadian and Iraqi forces. Read up more before you post.
Wow, considering Canada doesnt have any forces in Iraq, I find that to be quite amazing.
Kyronea
23-03-2006, 12:42
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Skinny87
23-03-2006, 12:45
Wow, considering Canada doesnt have any forces in Iraq, I find that to be quite amazing.

I got one thing wrong - I admit it. Given your track record old man, you've yet to get one thing right.
The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 12:46
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I post about freed hosteges and Im troll? please go away, Do you have nothing else better to do than post in my thread without reading what I wrote or whats going on and put up that stupid icon?
Peisandros
23-03-2006, 12:46
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Sigh, good call.
The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 12:46
I got one thing wrong - I admit it. Given your track record old man, you've yet to get one thing right.
in your opinion...
Adriatica II
23-03-2006, 12:48
Wow, considering Canada doesnt have any forces in Iraq, I find that to be quite amazing.

``Yes indeed, we do have personnel that are performing roles with U.S.
units
that are involved in the war on Iraq right now,'' Lieut. Hollie Ryan said
Wednesday.

So far its a small number or exchange officers, but most likly they would have been involved in this particualr operation, what with it being a canadian citizen and everything
Adriatica II
23-03-2006, 12:48
I got one thing wrong - I admit it. Given your track record old man, you've yet to get one thing right.

Dont worry S87, you did get it right. See my post.
Skinny87
23-03-2006, 12:49
So far its a small number or exchange officers

Hey! How about that USA? I didn't get it wrong - you did! Now there's a novelty...
Skinny87
23-03-2006, 12:50
Dont worry S87, you did get it right. See my post.

Danke, Adriatica
Peisandros
23-03-2006, 12:50
Hah, well whataya know?
Wrong again it seems.
The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 12:52
So far its a small number or exchange officers
This hard to believe since the Canadian government turned its back on the US and refused to send troops to help spread freedom. Its even harder to believe that they would be involved in offensive operations to free hosteges.
Skinny87
23-03-2006, 12:54
This hard to believe since the Canadian government turned its back on the US and refused to send troops to help spread freedom. Its even harder to believe that they would be involved in offensive operations to free hosteges.

Given that you think China attacked Pearl Harbour and that Ho Chi Minh wanted to spread communism to Australia (Something you've yet to prove, by the way), I find you hard to believe...
Adriatica II
23-03-2006, 12:57
This hard to believe since the Canadian government turned its back on the US and refused to send troops to help spread freedom. Its even harder to believe that they would be involved in offensive operations to free hosteges.

Well untill you have proof that my proof is flawed, you have no reason not to believe it.

Proof appers to be a concept you are unfamiliar with, as S87 nicely gives previous examples to.
The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 12:58
Given that you think China attacked Pearl Harbour and that Ho Chi Minh wanted to spread communism to Australia (Something you've yet to prove, by the way), I find you hards to believe...
I explained that I didnt mean China and I read he wanted to spread it to Australia in a letter he wrote. Doesnt change the fact that the possibility of a Canadian force rescueing them is slim to none.
Adriatica II
23-03-2006, 13:01
I explained that I didnt mean China and I read he wanted to spread it to Australia in a letter he wrote. Doesnt change the fact that the possibility of a Canadian force rescueing them is slim to none.

Did you or did you not say China

Can you produce a link to a copy of this letter

Can you provide proof of the unliklyhood of Canadians helping in this operation. I would of thought it being a Canadian citizen they would be very keen to help.
Peisandros
23-03-2006, 13:02
Hold on.. Is that the Canadian living in NZ?
Edit: Shit it is. Harmeet Sooden.. This will be big news tomorrow.
Kyronea
23-03-2006, 13:03
Given that you think China attacked Pearl Harbour and that Ho Chi Minh wanted to spread communism to Australia (Something you've yet to prove, by the way), I find you hard to believe...
Wait, what?!

I didn't think UN dude was that stupid. =/
The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 13:03
Did you or did you not say China

Can you produce a link to a copy of this letter

Can you provide proof of the unliklyhood of Canadians helping in this operation. I would of thought it being a Canadian citizen they would be very keen to help.
I did, but it aint what I meant

No, I cant

Absoulte proof, no. But considering the Canadian Government as publicly stated many times that they do not support our efforts in Iraq and that they would not send troops there, I think it goes without saying.
The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 13:05
Wait, what?!

I didn't think UN dude was that stupid. =/
Oh come on, no need for the flaming. Lets not harp on the past, its getting off topic.
Kyronea
23-03-2006, 13:08
Oh come on, no need for the flaming. Lets not harp on the past, its getting off topic.
Ahahahaha. Sorry, dude, but seeing as how you slew, chewed to bits, and spit out every last shred of credibility you had, I don't feel like it.
Adriatica II
23-03-2006, 13:09
I did

Well then* we cant really say much for your understanding of anything really


No, I cant

No proof, well then you can understand why we have doubts


Absoulte proof, no. But considering the Canadian Government as publicly stated many times that they do not support our efforts in Iraq and that they would not send troops there, I think it goes without saying.

Well there are a small number of troops there and they clearly would be interested in securing the release of their national themselves

*(now you know what it feels like to be taken out of context)
The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 13:13
Well then* we cant really say much for your understanding of anything really
You know what I meant


No proof, well then you can understand why we have doubts
yeah, but you dont have proof he wasnt


Well there are a small number of troops there and they clearly would be interested in securing the release of their national themselves
So a bunch soldiers decided to go into Iraq against the will of their government? sounds kinda treasonous.
Gadiristan
23-03-2006, 13:18
This hard to believe since the Canadian government turned its back on the US and refused to send troops to help spread freedom. Its even harder to believe that they would be involved in offensive operations to free hosteges.

The US are not spreading freedom but pain, death and future problems... ah, I almost forgot it, and benefits for some "friendly" companies. And you know, that's why "America" will be richer. You must be a proud for your country and you are a shame for the rest of the world.
Kyronea
23-03-2006, 13:21
The US are not spreading freedom but pain, death and future problems... ah, I almost forgot it, and benefits for some "friendly" companies. And you know, that's why "America" will be richer. You must be a proud for your country and you are a shame for the rest of the world.
Get off the fjorking moral high horse. Europe is no better than the United States when it comes to track records on invading other countries. In fact, it is far worse for Europe than the U.S. But wait, pointing that out would be unfair!

I'm hardly on UN's side. I just needed to point that out. >_>
The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 13:27
Get off the fjorking moral high horse. Europe is no better than the United States when it comes to track records on invading other countries. In fact, it is far worse for Europe than the U.S. But wait, pointing that out would be unfair!

I'm hardly on UN's side. I just needed to point that out. >_>
um, thanks. That was unexcepted but true, very true. I've saying for while now Europe is no better than the US.
Unified Home
23-03-2006, 13:34
um, thanks. That was unexcepted but true, very true. I've saying for while now Europe is no better than the US.

I guess that all super powers have to take crap from some where, I'm sure that if you went back 2000 years you'd properly hear Egypt and Mesopotamia (Now Iraq) complaining that Rome isn't doing enough to secure the peace.
OceanDrive2
23-03-2006, 14:11
Hosteges Freed in IraqAll the three of them?
Unified Home
23-03-2006, 14:13
All the three of them?

yeah 1 British and 2 Canadian
Safalra
23-03-2006, 14:24
Seeing as the issue of whether Canadians were involved doesn't seem to have been settled to the UN Abassadorship's satisfaction, may I quote British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw:

The operation included representatives from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, other agencies from Canada – and they did a terrific job – as well as the Americans and British staff and those from Iraq.

I'll try to find an online video of him saying this - for the moment you'll have to be satisfied with various websites quoting him (for example, http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/MSN/world/national/2006/03/23/hostages060323.html) and various news channels showing him saying it.
Psychotic Mongooses
23-03-2006, 14:38
Walk away people, walk away.
Adriatica II
23-03-2006, 15:39
You know what I meant

Did you or did you not say China?*


yeah, but you dont have proof he wasnt

You made the assertation, you have to prove it


So a bunch soldiers decided to go into Iraq against the will of their government? sounds kinda treasonous.

Have you read the article?

*(you see what its like to be taken out of context)
Corneliu
23-03-2006, 15:59
Firstly it was British, Canadian and Iraqi Forces mainly involved and its good to see that our intelligence is getting better!

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1216332,00.html

Hence why it says coalition forces on the Fox News website.

No matter who did it, it was very good work. Kudos.
Rhursbourg
23-03-2006, 16:18
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4836218.stm

if the BBC says the Canadians where involved then they where involved
Corneliu
23-03-2006, 16:20
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4836218.stm

if the BBC says the Canadians where involved then they where involved

This is interesting. I did not know that Canadian troops were actually in Iraq. Last I heard, there were no troops from Canada in Iraq.

These were Canadian Peace activist so where Canadian Troops involved?
Skinny87
23-03-2006, 16:29
This is interesting. I did not know that Canadian troops were actually in Iraq. Last I heard, there were no troops from Canada in Iraq.

These were Canadian Peace activist so where Canadian Troops involved?

The report says Canadian Special Forces were involved, so they were involved. Possibly some political thing - Canadian hostages, Canadian forces needed to be seen freeing them or somesuch.
Corneliu
23-03-2006, 16:34
The report says Canadian Special Forces were involved, so they were involved. Possibly some political thing - Canadian hostages, Canadian forces needed to be seen freeing them or somesuch.

Then the question comes in, who sent them there? I know that the former PM probably didnt as he stated that no canadian troops will go. So did Harper sent them there?
Skinny87
23-03-2006, 16:38
Then the question comes in, who sent them there? I know that the former PM probably didnt as he stated that no canadian troops will go. So did Harper sent them there?

*Shrugs*

Maybe - Just as a one off thing. Making sure their citizens are safe and all that. I doubt it's a permanent thing.
Corneliu
23-03-2006, 16:42
*Shrugs*

Maybe - Just as a one off thing. Making sure their citizens are safe and all that. I doubt it's a permanent thing.

IF true then someone broke a promise.
Skinny87
23-03-2006, 16:45
IF true then someone broke a promise.

A government broke a promise? I'll be damned!
JuNii
23-03-2006, 16:45
IF true then someone broke a promise.
imagine that... a politician breaking a promise :rolleyes: ;) :D

EDIT: Damn, beat me to the punchline by a couple of seconds there Skinny87
Corneliu
23-03-2006, 17:05
A government broke a promise? I'll be damned!

:D
Seathorn
23-03-2006, 18:01
This is where you lose shockingly infact.
You really do need to find another forum.

However, see below:

why is that?

Because that's not the intention of freeing hostages or liberating people.


but of course:
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The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 23:22
However, see below:



Because that's not the intention of freeing hostages or liberating people.


Look, This war has done alot of good and America has paid a high price. Whats so bad about America's economy getting helped in the long run?
Skinny87
23-03-2006, 23:27
Look, This war has done alot of good and America has paid a high price. Whats so bad about America's economy getting helped in the long run?

A lot of good? Not really. It toppled a dictator that wasn't threatening the US and never could and caused his country to move towards civil war whilst causing thousands of allied casualties, as well as causing the middle east to become far more unstable.

Why couldn't you have picked on North Korea instead? It is far more of a threat and has killed more people than Iraq has. Or maybe Somalia again, repair some of the damage you did there...
The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 23:36
A lot of good? Not really.

Why couldn't you have picked on North Korea instead? It is far more of a threat and has killed more people than Iraq has. Or maybe Somalia again, repair some of the damage you did there...
It did do good, the tyrant is gone. And those places werent in our interests at the time, especially Somalia.
Skinny87
23-03-2006, 23:39
It did do good, the tyrant is gone. And those places werent in our interests at the time, especially Somalia.

Why not? What made Iraq so special out of more threatening places like North Korea, which had proven WMDs, and Somalia, which you had already helped screw up and needed help against genocide and starvation?
The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 23:45
Why not? What made Iraq so special out of more threatening places like North Korea, which had proven WMDs, and Somalia, which you had already helped screw up and needed help against genocide and starvation?
North Korea was seen as a paper tiger, now that may be different. as far Somalia I dont see why stopping genocide and starvation is justified war. We tried already remember? And it got us 18 dead boys over there.
Adriatica II
23-03-2006, 23:50
North Korea was seen as a paper tiger, now that may be different. as far Somalia I dont see why stopping genocide and starvation is justified war. We tried already remember? And it got us 18 dead boys over there.

Oh yes, terrible. 18 dead people. When compared with the thousands and thousands of Africans who are dying there today. If America helped cause the mess, America really should clean it up
The UN abassadorship
23-03-2006, 23:52
Oh yes, terrible. 18 dead people. When compared with the thousands and thousands of Africans who are dying there today. If America helped cause the mess, America really should clean it up
Not at the expense of American lives
Skinny87
23-03-2006, 23:52
North Korea was seen as a paper tiger, now that may be different. as far Somalia I dont see why stopping genocide and starvation is justified war. We tried already remember? And it got us 18 dead boys over there.

It's a better justification than going after non-existent WMDs and a dictator who was no threat to the US at all. As for Somalia, maybe you should have gone back and tried to clean up the mess you did, help those poor bastards.
Desperate Measures
23-03-2006, 23:54
Two Canadians and One Briton were freed by U.S. forces yesterday in Iraq from their terrorist captors. I wanted to share this awesome story about the good stuff our boys are doing over there, if anyone still questions that. On a sad note the American that was with them was killed before he could be rescued. This is very sad but will only strenghten American resolve to complete this mission that will make America safer and richer.
The mission was already accomplished. I saw the big sign that said so. I thought we were only still there for shits and giggles?
The UN abassadorship
24-03-2006, 00:07
The mission was already accomplished. I saw the big sign that said so. I thought we were only still there for shits and giggles?
That was A mission. There are several missions going on.
Desperate Measures
24-03-2006, 00:13
That was A mission. There are several missions going on.
Which mission are we currently in? The shitting or the giggling?
The UN abassadorship
24-03-2006, 01:07
Which mission are we currently in? The shitting or the giggling?
We are keeping the peace so the Iraqis can be free, the mission cloudnt be clearer
Pythogria
24-03-2006, 01:10
We are keeping the peace so the Iraqis can be free, the mission cloudnt be clearer

That and oil.
Mackinau
24-03-2006, 01:18
I did, but it aint what I meant

No, I cant

Absoulte proof, no. But considering the Canadian Government as publicly stated many times that they do not support our efforts in Iraq and that they would not send troops there, I think it goes without saying.

They weren't troops; they were RCMP members.

Face it.

A British foreign official stated that British, American, and Iraqi soldiers, and some Canadian RCMP members carried out the operation.

Just because we're not at war doesn't mean we don't look out for our own.
Mackinau
24-03-2006, 01:20
This is interesting. I did not know that Canadian troops were actually in Iraq. Last I heard, there were no troops from Canada in Iraq.

These were Canadian Peace activist so where Canadian Troops involved?

Well, we've got around 2500 soldiers in Southern Afghanistan, so they might have just flown some in for the op.
Desperate Measures
24-03-2006, 02:00
We are keeping the peace so the Iraqis can be free, the mission cloudnt be clearer
We suck at keeping the peace, then.

I do understand, joking aside, why we can't just pull out. We shouldn't have gotten ourselves into the mess, though.
The UN abassadorship
24-03-2006, 02:26
That and oil.
Just because they have oil, doesnt mean thats why we went there...they also have sand, but I dont think we are in Iraq for sand. That wouldnt make sense just like the idea we went there for oil.
The UN abassadorship
24-03-2006, 02:28
We suck at keeping the peace, then.

I do understand, joking aside, why we can't just pull out. We shouldn't have gotten ourselves into the mess, though.
we had to, it was the interest of national security and the intel suggested they were a grave threat and were going to attack us soon.