NationStates Jolt Archive

Who are your favorite royals?

Personally, I like the King of Clubs, but the Queen of Hearts is pretty cool too.

Whatever the name of the emporer was in 'the emporer's new clothes'. :p

Alexander the Great was one of my favourite royals. This new generation of Royals just don’t do it for me.

Neo-Queen Serenity and... what... why are you all looking at me like that?

Not whining, but you really should have had the Nepalese royals in the poll. They are one crazy fun-loving family.

I too went with the kill ‘em all option. I think we’re well past the time of needing royal families to sponge off society. It’s bad enough we have corporations and politicians doing it without the competition for the contents of our wallets. Just take the royals out in the alley and hold them upside down and shake them for their shiny things (I feel the same way about the House of Lords styled Senate in Canada, useless and pilfering at the same time). It doesn’t properly address thousands of years of oppression and corruption but it’s a start.

The Bruce

I too went with the kill ‘em all option.
Having the Nepalese in the poll would have reconciled royalty-lovers and royalty-killers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipendra

The King - Elvis Presley

Omaha Royals! Nah, not really they suck golden spikes:D
A fluffel for anyone who gets this;)

I too went with the kill ‘em all option. I think we’re well past the time of needing royal families to sponge off society. It’s bad enough we have corporations and politicians doing it without the competition for the contents of our wallets. Just take the royals out in the alley and hold them upside down and shake them for their shiny things (I feel the same way about the House of Lords styled Senate in Canada, useless and pilfering at the same time). It doesn’t properly address thousands of years of oppression and corruption but it’s a start.

The Bruce

Um, how much does the Queen cost you anyway? Do the figures on how much the American and Japanese tourists spend coming over to the UK to see royalyt against the cost of retainiung that royalty; add in the goodwill effect of the royal trips, and you find that they make a tidy profit for the UK. How it works in other nations I am not sure, particularly as where I live we have an ex assembly line opewrative as a president. I would prefer to have HRH any day to the comical misadventures of our good president.

Leeches, the lot of them.

Um, how much does the Queen cost you anyway? Do the figures on how much the American and Japanese tourists spend coming over to the UK to see royalyt against the cost of retainiung that royalty; add in the goodwill effect of the royal trips, and you find that they make a tidy profit for the UK. How it works in other nations I am not sure, particularly as where I live we have an ex assembly line opewrative as a president. I would prefer to have HRH any day to the comical misadventures of our good president.
But you have that fat guy for the carnival...

Speaking as a brit, you cant beat our royal family!
Queen Victoria: half German and married to a German, which possibly makes our current queen more German than British. She's married to prince FOOLip the Greek, a more hopelessly bigoted and casually racist man you couldn't hope to meet.
Charles is a bimbling idiot who sticks his oar in on debates such as genetic modification of crops without having the faintest factual basis for his opinions but still expects to be taken seriously. His brothers wander around the world on the british taxpayer's tab doing pretty much fuck-all of use. Prince William is the very epitome of the Hugh Grant-esque big-toothed public school fuckwit. Prince Harry is a pot-smoking (Hurrah!) philandering delinquent who is more likely the ginger bastard of James Hewitt than the legitimate offspring of Charles...

I'd say they were fairly representative of the nation, good luck to them, and I hope they enjoy their lives as the most heavily subsidised tourist attraction in the world.

But you have that fat guy for the carnival...

yeah, not the same league in pomp and ceremony is it.

yeah, not the same league in pomp and ceremony is it.
Give them longer terms, more power, a castle, and watch them at work.

BTW, do you want your Emperors back?

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Cool. That was an exceptional movie.

Kansas City, they're always an easy win for Cleveland.

Personally I like the Japanese royals - longest ruling dynasty ever!

The King - Elvis Presley

Damn! I knew I had left off somebody important! Couldn't fit HRH the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as Prince, and who's now calling himself Prince again (and getting in trouble for something to do with painting his house purple) on the poll either.

I think the omissions of King Jigme Wangchuk of Bhutan and King Mswati III of Swaziland invalidate the entire poll

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Give them longer terms, more power, a castle, and watch them at work.

BTW, do you want your Emperors back?

I happen to be British, we already have our royalty.

Here, however, when the military dictatorship ended in the 1980s there was a referendum to decide of the constitutional form that the country would adopt. Monarchy came in third, behind Presidential Republic (the winner) and parliamentarism (a close second). There are always people who would like to have the Monarchy back here, but just so long as it is not the Portuguese who get to be in charge. (Their reputation here is equivalent to that of the Irish in the UK, or the Poles in the USA)

I think the omissions of King Jigme Wangchuk of Bhutan and King Mswati III of Swaziland invalidate the entire poll

<sigh>

Quit your whining! That's what "Other (This is the option to choose instead of whining about why your answer wasn't an option)" for.

I happen to be British, we already have our royalty.

Here, however, when the military dictatorship ended in the 1980s there was a referendum to decide of the constitutional form that the country would adopt. Monarchy came in third, behind Presidential Republic (the winner) and parliamentarism (a close second). There are always people who would like to have the Monarchy back here, but just so long as it is not the Portuguese who get to be in charge. (Their reputation here is equivalent to that of the Irish in the UK, or the Poles in the USA)
They make good sausage, no that can't be it Irish eat potatos not sausage. Hmm, Oh is it that they make good spirits?

They make good sausage, no that can't be it Irish eat potatos not sausage. Hmm, Oh is it that they make good spirits?

Are you Polish or something?

Um, how much does the Queen cost you anyway? Do the figures on how much the American and Japanese tourists spend coming over to the UK to see royalyt against the cost of retainiung that royalty; add in the goodwill effect of the royal trips, and you find that they make a tidy profit for the UK. How it works in other nations I am not sure, particularly as where I live we have an ex assembly line opewrative as a president. I would prefer to have HRH any day to the comical misadventures of our good president.

The Monarchy costs us in Canada because we still have the vestiges of the House of Lords, our unelected Senate (the great trough of political hacks), our Governor General, and Provincial equivalents. These aren’t funded by bake sales, they come from the taxpayer’s coffers.

The Bruce

Are you Polish or something?
No, just joshing. We tell the same jokes about Canadia's though, and Mexicans...we pretty much have ethnic jokes about everyone here:p

The Monarchy costs us in Canada because we still have the vestiges of the House of Lords, our unelected Senate (the great trough of political hacks), our Governor General, and Provincial equivalents. These aren’t funded by bake sales, they come from the taxpayer’s coffers.

The Bruce

Of the things you have mentioned only the Governor General is directly the responsibility of the Monarchy and, I believe this to be true but I may be wrong, the cost of supporting the Governer General is born by the Monarchy directly. No tax payers money involved.

Personally I like the Japanese royals - longest ruling dynasty ever!
Er, well. 天皇陛下 seems to be a nice guy, though his wife just looks damn scary. And HIH The Crown Prince scored brownie points with me for sticking up for his wife against the Imperial Household Agency (and Princess Aiko is cute), but the rest of them... I mean, did some replace the brain of that one prince to get him to suggest that returning to Imperial cocubines was a good way to fix the sucession problem?

Their reputation here is equivalent to that of the Irish in the UK, or the Poles in the USA
So, they think that all smart Portuguese have left their country for Brazil? No, wait, that can't be it: cause then they'd have no problem with the monarchy (technically, the Empire secceded from Portugal, after having ruled over Portugal for a bit). Is it that they think they have gained brains sometime in the past, let's say 100 years? Or do they believe they too are really stupid, just not as stupid?

Charge the Monarchy with crimes against humanity for their collective crimes throughout History and seize their property would be a good start.

They didn’t stop doing bad things after Queen Victoria and get away with it. Edward VIII was a full blown Nazi collaborator who supplied Rommel with the intelligence he needed; went AWOL in France to escape the consequences; and when they sent him to the Caribbean good old Edward gave the Nazi’s information about departure times of allied ships. But when you’re a royal they always cover for you, no matter how many people you get dead or betray.

I wish we, (Australia) would cut the Royal leash off from around our necks. Even PM Howard (a staunch Monarchist) said he couldn't see Australia staying in the Commonwealth when Charlie takes the reigns from Mummy dearest.

Charge the Monarchy with crimes against humanity for their collective crimes throughout History and seize their property would be a good start.

They didn’t stop doing bad things after Queen Victoria and get away with it. Edward VIII was a full blown Nazi collaborator who supplied Rommel with the intelligence he needed; went AWOL in France to escape the consequences; and when they sent him to the Caribbean good old Edward gave the Nazi’s information about departure times of allied ships. But when you’re a royal they always cover for you, no matter how many people you get dead or betray.

Why limit this to Monarchies? Please include Presidents, Dictators, Governors, and any other individuals who had the power to disregard the majority of the world in their decision making.

Charge the Monarchy with crimes against humanity for their collective crimes throughout History and seize their property would be a good start.

They didn’t stop doing bad things after Queen Victoria and get away with it. Edward VIII was a full blown Nazi collaborator who supplied Rommel with the intelligence he needed; went AWOL in France to escape the consequences; and when they sent him to the Caribbean good old Edward gave the Nazi’s information about departure times of allied ships. But when you’re a royal they always cover for you, no matter how many people you get dead or betray.
You cannot charge a person with what another did. And that is not exactly genocide.

Of the things you have mentioned only the Governor General is directly the responsibility of the Monarchy and, I believe this to be true but I may be wrong, the cost of supporting the Governer General is born by the Monarchy directly. No tax payers money involved.

The Canadian government pays the entire cost of the Governor General and the Lieutenant Governors (Provincial). The estimated direct cost of having a Governor General to the taxpayer is 34 million dollars. If you count the amount of traveling they do on political junkets the amount goes up to 41 million (this extra amount paid for by the Foreign Affairs Department), because of the entourage they drag around with them. This cost doesn't include the Provincial Lieutenant Governors (I have no idea how much it costs to keep them all running).

The Bruce

The Canadian government pays the entire cost of the Governor General and the Lieutenant Governors (Provincial). The estimated direct cost of having a Governor General to the taxpayer is 34 million dollars. If you count the amount of traveling they do on political junkets the amount goes up to 41 million (this extra amount paid for by the Foreign Affairs Department), because of the entourage they drag around with them. This cost doesn't include the Provincial Lieutenant Governors (I have no idea how much it costs to keep them all running).
Just out of curiosity, what would you replace them with then? I mean, they'd have the same functions and eat up the same amount of money.

Why limit this to Monarchies? Please include Presidents, Dictators, Governors, and any other individuals who had the power to disregard the majority of the world in their decision making.

the British Queen has no decision making power whatsoever. test case was the ban on foxhunting. can you imagine anyone less likely to want to ban a toff's sport like that? well the ban was enacted using a qauint old Norman point of law when it got bounced back by the house of lords so many times. basically they got a ceremonial bod to walk into the houses of parliament and say "this is happening "BECAUSE THE QUEEN WISHES IT"" the Queen appears to be told what to "wish" by the current prime minister's perception of what the most militant portion of the electorate want.

The Duke of Edinburgh is the best royal, followed by athe Duke of Lugo.

The next big question is: why are people so fascinated by the Royals of any country? Most of them are useless, inbred and stupid. They contribute nothing of any note. Some can provide good examples (the Danish royal family in WWII all put on Stars of David when the Nazis started demanding Danish Jews), but they have no real power. They're there for the looks and most of them aren't that good looking or that interesting.

The Danish have a hot princess? I think? I don't really know. But I occasionally like to eat an apricot danish. So yea, they will do.

Norway's I think.

Nepal. How many others have a crown prince who snaps and kills everyone?

I have to say that I think the Royal Family is way better than the other option. I mean, who wants President Tony?

*runs screaming from the room....................

The Danish have a hot princess? I think? I don't really know. But I occasionally like to eat an apricot danish. So yea, they will do.
Yeah she's hot. Most Australians are...:p

Anyways I love the Danish Royal Family! They're much closer to the population than most other royals are.

who freakin' cares?

Yep, who cares?

Know why i like the saudi royal family (not that they are my favourite, cause they're not)? Because they go against some of their own laws... It's illegal to have/drink alcohol in saudi, for a fact, i know the saudi royal family does drink (how i know that for a fact, is another interesting story:D )...and just some other random stuff like that

Yeah she's hot. Most Australians are...:p

Anyways I love the Danish Royal Family! They're much closer to the population than most other royals are.
Oh that's right. I remember. Yea, I chose well.

Er, well. 天皇陛下 seems to be a nice guy, though his wife just looks damn scary. And HIH The Crown Prince scored brownie points with me for sticking up for his wife against the Imperial Household Agency (and Princess Aiko is cute), but the rest of them... I mean, did some replace the brain of that one prince to get him to suggest that returning to Imperial cocubines was a good way to fix the sucession problem?

Well, mostly it's just for longevity. But I always thoughtb the former Princess Nori was pretty cute as well. Princess Aiko is a darling.

And Prince Tomohito is just a dumbass. Every royal family has to have one of those. In fact the whole succession issue is stupid. Japan has had eight female Emperors over some 2500 or 1500 years (depending on the historical or mythical record). And they're risking that over the recently adopted (Meiji period) idea of male-only primogeniture adopted from Prussia. Baka!