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Well, since SHAENDRA's thread (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=473968) was going nowhere, I thought I would start a new thread on the topic. (A break from the damn abortion threads!)

Bottle's post makes a good starting point:

Oh joy, the same stupid stereotype..."Men want all sex all the time, have no standards, and will do anything for some ass. Women are 'complicated' and 'emotional' and need to be bribed into having sex. There is a formula for getting women to give up the sex, and men can learn this formula to ensure that they can get what they really want out of women."

Let me keep it simple for the dingbats out there:

Every man is different, and so is every woman. What turns on one man may turn off another, just as what turns on one woman may turn off another. Contrary to the ridiculous and utterly false notions that many people seem to hold, the vast vast vast majority of men have plenty of personal standards when it comes to sex. Contrary to the pathetic stereotypes, women are sexual beings just as men are, and the female sex drive IS EVERY BIT AS STRONG AS THE MALE SEX DRIVE. At many points in life, female sex drive may even be higher.

There is a popular stereotype that all women have high standards on who they'll sleep with, but that all men will sleep with any woman. I don't think so, because I and nearly all of my male friends are living proof of its falsehood. On the same count, I know a few women who will sleep with pretty much any man.

Simonist']Supposing they pass the conversation barrier, there's another consideration that could halt all physical interaction -- how attractive are they? In order to get me to a stage of even heavy flirtation to light physical interaction, they have to rate at least a 6 on a scale of 10 because, well, I'm allowed to be picky (female's gift).
I could say the same thing myself (except that I wouldn't assume that being selective is a 'gift' only possessed by my sex, and am also not in the habit of quantifying attractiveness).

This is also a display of the false belief that sex is given by women and taken by men. Again, this view clashes with reality itself, in my experience.

UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIM BASED ON STEREOTYPE ALERT

Well, you don't really hear people marvel at that hot guy dating some less than attractive chick, but you do hear about "Why is that crazy hot chick with that dopey looking dude."

(I've been that dude. It rules.)

UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIM BASED ON STEREOTYPE ALERT

Well, you don't really hear people marvel at that hot guy dating some less than attractive chick, but you do hear about "Why is that crazy hot chick with that dopey looking dude."

(I've been that dude. It rules.)
I'm not seeing the immediate correlation. Are you saying that the "crazy hot chick" doesn't have high standards?

Women are just selective about more things. As long as a woman looks nice I will sleep with her, but women themselves arent so superficial because for them sex often involves some kind of emotional connection.

there are just too many people to make a meaningful generalization on the behavior of the sexes.

I'm not seeing the immediate correlation. Are you saying that the "crazy hot chick" doesn't have high standards?
Just playing off that stereotype, that you see those crazy hot chicks with dopey dudes (woo hoo for dopey dudes) but you don't see a correlary in the other direction, hot dudes don't date less than attractive chicks. So, based on those stereotypes it would appear that the (attractive) men are more selective than the (attractive) women.

Actually, brings up a tangent-most the time when dudes complain about women or women complain about dudes in this "Why don't they dig me" whatever kind of thing they both are talking about the same thing, and it's not gender-it's the attractive people. Like some comedian once joked about, everyones going after the same 10 people. But that's another tangent and not really what you where talking about.

Biologically, females tend to be more picky because they are going to be the ones caring for the child.

Women are just selective about more things. As long as a woman looks nice I will sleep with her, but women themselves arent so superficial because for them sex often involves some kind of emotional connection.
Sex involves an emotional connection in my mind, and I am a man. I know women for whom sex is just about physical pleasure. I'm just trying to show that the stereotypes are bullshit.

HA! My standereds are so high, you might as well be a model.
And I can't tell you how many hot chicks I've seen with completley discusting guys.

there are just too many people to make a meaningful generalization on the behavior of the sexes.
Since you can't successfully say, "Women like men," I'd say thats about right.