NationStates Jolt Archive

Damn it, these things seem to just crop up on every message board and they're always about the same thing: something bad happened today, the world is out to get me, myparents/girlfriend/buddies/dog/ect. just don't understand me, yadda yadda yadda. Most of the time they're just attention-whoring, and if you don't support your position they turn rabid on you and act like they actually know something.

Your thoughts?
(poll coming)

Same thing happens in political threads. It's the way of the web.

I know a bunch of Emo Kids, and yes, deep down they are no more than attention whores.

I thought I was emo when I was in High School, but I recently realized I was justifiably depressed. For reasons that may or may not involve my childhood, I was under a constant cloud of dread and a generally horrible feeling. Any good feelings trying to squeeze through were forcively pounded out by feelings of self-loathing and a negative level of esteem.

Really all I needed was a girlfriend. Specifically, a girlfriend that actually cared about me. Once I had that, everything seemed to just get better on its own.

By definition, I was emo - depressed for seemingly no reason, taking it out on other people and myself, continually digging the hole deeper. In reality, however, I was just incredibly lonely and had a horrible case of low self-esteem.

I think maybe "emo" kids just make up reasons as to why they are what they are, rather than finding the real reason. "Nobody understands me!" is just a lazy answer to "Why am I angry and depressed all the time?".

Dear diary,

mood, apithetic. this moring i couldn't get my hair to do that cool flippy-thing like all the guys in the bands can do.my life is spiraling downward. i couldn't get enough money to go to the Blood Red Romance and Suffocate Me Dry Concert. It sucks cause they play some of my favorite songs like 'Stab My Heart Because I Love You,' and 'Rip Apart My Soul,' and of course, 'Stabby Rip Stab Stab." and it doesn't help that i couldn't get my hair to do that flippy thing either, like that guy from that band could do, some days you know. . . i'm an emo kid, non-conforming as can be you'd be non-conforming to if u look just like me i have paint on my nails and make-up on my face i'm almost emo enough to start shaving my legs 'cause i feel real deep when i'm dressing in drag i call it freedom of expression most just call me a f*g 'cause their dudes look like chicks, their chicks look like d*kes 'cause emo is one step below transvestite stop my breathing and slit my throat i must be emo i don't jump around when i go to shows i must be emo i'm dark and sensitive with low self-esteem the way i dress makes everyday feel like Hallowe'en i have no real problems but i like to make believe i stole my sister's mascara now i'm grounded for a week sulking and writing poetry are my hobbies i can't get through a Hawthorne Heights album without sobbing girls keep breaking up with me, it' never any fun they say they already have a p*ssy, they don't need another one stop my breathing and slit my throat i must be emo i don't jump around when i go to shows i must be emo dye in my hair and polish on my toes i must be emo i play guitar and write suicide notes i must be emo my life is just a black abyss, you know, it's so dark. and it's suffocating me. grabbing ahold of me and tightening it's grip, tighter than a pair of my little sister's jeans . . . which look great on my by the way when i get depressed i cut my wrists in every direction hearing songs about getting dumped give me an erection i write in a live journal and wear thick rimmed glasses i told my friends i bleed black and cry during classes i'm just a bad, cheap imitation of goth you can read me "Catcher in the Rye," and watch me jack off i wear skin tight clothes while hating my life if i said i like girls i'd only be half right i look like i'm dead and dress like a homo i must be emo screw XBOX i play old school Nintendo i must be emo i like to whine and hate my parentals i must be emo me and my friends all look like clones i must be emo my parents just don't get me you know. they think i'm gay just because they saw me kiss a guy. well, a couple of guys. but i mean, it's the 2000s. can't 2, or 4 dudes make-out with each other without being gay. i mean, chicks dig that kind of thing anyways. i don't know diary, sometimes i think you're the only one that gets me, you're my best friend. . . . i feel like tacos

:p ;)

Most of the time they're just attention-whoring, and if you don't support your position they turn rabid on you and act like they actually know something.
By posting on a message board, you are trying to convince people to read your thoughts. You are devoting your time to getting the attention of others, thus, you are an attention whore.
I'm posting, that makes me an attention whore, and should someone respond to my comments then all three of us would be whoring it up.

By posting on a message board, you are trying to convince people to read your thoughts. You are devoting your time to getting the attention of others, thus, you are an attention whore.
I'm posting, that makes me an attention whore, and should someone respond to my comments then all three of us would be whoring it up.
*joins in whoring*

Dear diary,

mood, apithetic. this moring i couldn't get my hair to do that cool flippy-thing like all the guys in the bands can do.my life is spiraling downward. i couldn't get enough money to go to the Blood Red Romance and Suffocate Me Dry Concert. It sucks cause they play some of my favorite songs like 'Stab My Heart Because I Love You,' and 'Rip Apart My Soul,' and of course, 'Stabby Rip Stab Stab." and it doesn't help that i couldn't get my hair to do that flippy thing either, like that guy from that band could do, some days you know. . . i'm an emo kid, non-conforming as can be you'd be non-conforming to if u look just like me i have paint on my nails and make-up on my face i'm almost emo enough to start shaving my legs 'cause i feel real deep when i'm dressing in drag i call it freedom of expression most just call me a f*g 'cause their dudes look like chicks, their chicks look like d*kes 'cause emo is one step below transvestite stop my breathing and slit my throat i must be emo i don't jump around when i go to shows i must be emo i'm dark and sensitive with low self-esteem the way i dress makes everyday feel like Hallowe'en i have no real problems but i like to make believe i stole my sister's mascara now i'm grounded for a week sulking and writing poetry are my hobbies i can't get through a Hawthorne Heights album without sobbing girls keep breaking up with me, it' never any fun they say they already have a p*ssy, they don't need another one stop my breathing and slit my throat i must be emo i don't jump around when i go to shows i must be emo dye in my hair and polish on my toes i must be emo i play guitar and write suicide notes i must be emo my life is just a black abyss, you know, it's so dark. and it's suffocating me. grabbing ahold of me and tightening it's grip, tighter than a pair of my little sister's jeans . . . which look great on my by the way when i get depressed i cut my wrists in every direction hearing songs about getting dumped give me an erection i write in a live journal and wear thick rimmed glasses i told my friends i bleed black and cry during classes i'm just a bad, cheap imitation of goth you can read me "Catcher in the Rye," and watch me jack off i wear skin tight clothes while hating my life if i said i like girls i'd only be half right i look like i'm dead and dress like a homo i must be emo screw XBOX i play old school Nintendo i must be emo i like to whine and hate my parentals i must be emo me and my friends all look like clones i must be emo my parents just don't get me you know. they think i'm gay just because they saw me kiss a guy. well, a couple of guys. but i mean, it's the 2000s. can't 2, or 4 dudes make-out with each other without being gay. i mean, chicks dig that kind of thing anyways. i don't know diary, sometimes i think you're the only one that gets me, you're my best friend. . . . i feel like tacos

:p ;)


Seriously LOL! That's from a song isn't it?

By posting on a message board, you are trying to convince people to read your thoughts. You are devoting your time to getting the attention of others, thus, you are an attention whore.
I'm posting, that makes me an attention whore, and should someone respond to my comments then all three of us would be whoring it up.

The difference though is that we are having a discussion, an exchanging of ideas. Emo-rants are all about getting across your problems and every percieved injustice done against you and asking others to agree with you, give off their own percieved injustices, or help you solve your problems.

The difference though is that we are having a discussion, an exchanging of ideas. Emo-rants are all about getting across your problems and every percieved injustice done against you and asking others to agree with you, give off their own percieved injustices, or help you solve your problems.

And then, in most cases I've seen on NS, rejecting everyone's advice about how to solve said problems.

Seriously LOL! That's from a song isn't it?
yep "Emo Kid"...not sure i got all of it but thats the jyst of it

yep "Emo Kid"...not sure i got all of it but thats the jyst of it
Here's the song:

http://emosong.ytmnd.com/

And then, in most cases I've seen on NS, rejecting everyone's advice about how to solve said problems.
Well, if they don't have any problems, they can't have an excuse to wear black and listen to Linkin Park in dark rooms, can they? :D

Punks were outcast and loathed by society, but turned it around to become a viable style. Geeks did it. Nerds too. The problem with Emo kids is that they aren't turning anything around. Their whole operation falls apart when they have nothing to feel sad, oppressed, or sorry for themselves about. People who define themselves by how awful they feel should just be ignored, though that of course gives them power anyway. Just hand them a razorblade and show them a picture of your girlfriend when you walk by, and with luck their own self-loathing will do the rest. The only downside is that they won't discover the body until it starts to stink, since they'll put their Fall Out Boy CD on endless repeat and lock the door.

Punks were outcast and loathed by society, but turned it around to become a viable style. Geeks did it. Nerds too. The problem with Emo kids is that they aren't turning anything around. Their whole operation falls apart when they have nothing to feel sad, oppressed, or sorry for themselves about. People who define themselves by how awful they feel should just be ignored, though that of course gives them power anyway. Just hand them a razorblade and show them a picture of your girlfriend when you walk by, and with luck their own self-loathing will do the rest. The only downside is that they won't discover the body until it starts to stink, since they'll put their Fall Out Boy CD on endless repeat and lock the door.

[scathing response to revisionist history]Punk died when it "became a viable style". Similarly, the whole value of geekdom, the escape, the occasionally cult-like secret knowledge and inside jokes, was destroyed when geekdom became broadly accepted.[/whine] :p

The problem with Emo is that it is just a new way of marketing the same old culture. It's just as materialistic, just as ignorant, just as xenophobic, and just as posing as every other reinvention of the same culture.

Punk, geek, and nerd groups never will.

You know, the only thing that bothers me more than the "emo kids" (or even worse, the "emo" young adults in my age bracket) are the scene kids. At least the emos think they're standing for something, whereas the scene kids are doing it purely for the look and the percieved "attitude". Emos put their heart into it, while Scenes just kinda fwoop their hair and wear tight pants, all the while laughing and smiling and giggling over how fabulous their lives seem in comparison.

That said, though....I really hate emo kids, so scene kids are pretty much scum-suckers in my world.

-cut(haha)-

The problem with Emo is that it is just a new way of marketing the same old culture. It's just as materialistic, just as ignorant, just as xenophobic, and just as posing as every other reinvention of the same culture.

Punk, geek, and nerd groups never will.

"Punk": Greenday (They said it, not me)

Geek/Nerd: G4.

[scathing response to revisionist history]Punk died when it "became a viable style". Similarly, the whole value of geekdom, the escape, the occasionally cult-like secret knowledge and inside jokes, was destroyed when geekdom became broadly accepted.[/whine] :p

The problem with Emo is that it is just a new way of marketing the same old culture. It's just as materialistic, just as ignorant, just as xenophobic, and just as posing as every other reinvention of the same culture.

Punk, geek, and nerd groups never will.

what you said

There have been depressed teenagers since long before there was "emo."

The only downside is that they won't discover the body until it starts to stink, since they'll put their Fall Out Boy CD on endless repeat and lock the door.
Let us hope they void their bowls, then.

Call me old-fashioned, but I still prefer hating Preppies.

It seems to me that "emo" culture is just a really really really watered down ripoff of punk and goth culture. With any trace of a spine taken out.

Their music I find mostly to be unimpressive and really not all that emotional.

Their music I find mostly to be unimpressive and really not all that emotional.
Surely you don’t fail to see the poetic genius behind such brilliant prose as,

“Let’s all get fucked up and die!”

There have been depressed teenagers since long before there was "emo."
Agreed. But emo seems to, at least in my eyes, make that whole "depression" thing rather something to aspire to....if you fit this image, people will accept you, but to fit this image you have to be this and this and this....and I think that's where many of the modern "emos" spring from.

I mean, depression is a serious thing, yes, but it's being tossed around like crazy these days. Get a C on your geometry quiz? God, you're so depressed. Didn't make the part you wanted in the show? Geez, your life must suck so bad. Yeah, sure, there are real depressed kids out there with real problems who need real help, but the emos are doing nothing but cheapening the grimness of their situation. That, more than anything, seems to be the root of why many people are anti-emo.

Stupid teenagers, internet strangers don't give a damn about your problems :) By the way, shoulden't you punks be in school or making fried rice?

Stupid teenagers, internet strangers don't give a damn about your problems :) By the way, shoulden't you punks be in school or making fried rice?
At this hour? What are you thinking? They've got to diet like crazy to fit those skinny pants (or do a whole lot of blow), they're probably all following that "no white at night" rule. Sorry, fried rice is STRAIGHT OUT. :p

Simonist']Agreed. But emo seems to, at least in my eyes, make that whole "depression" thing rather something to aspire to....if you fit this image, people will accept you, but to fit this image you have to be this and this and this....and I think that's where many of the modern "emos" spring from.

I mean, depression is a serious thing, yes, but it's being tossed around like crazy these days. Get a C on your geometry quiz? God, you're so depressed. Didn't make the part you wanted in the show? Geez, your life must suck so bad. Yeah, sure, there are real depressed kids out there with real problems who need real help, but the emos are doing nothing but cheapening the grimness of their situation. That, more than anything, seems to be the root of why many people are anti-emo.

Yes, as someone who actually was quite depressed a lot of the time during high school, it does irritate me that some people act depressed just to be trendy.

Yes, as someone who actually was quite depressed a lot of the time during high school, it does irritate me that some people act depressed just to be trendy.
Agreed, coming from somebody else who had similar issues.

But then, I also came from the camp that protested the over-medication of America's youth, so to this day, after 6 years of attempts on the part of my doctors, I've only been somewhat medicated for 5 months, and I'm off of that now.

But then, I rock it old school. I figure, if it gets so bad that I can't take care of it myself, then I probably deserve to have somebody else tell me what's best for me.

I've never been on medication for depression, despite the fact that, looking back, it could have had some positive effect. I got through it all in one piece though, thankfully. The only medication I take on a regular basis for my allergies.

Damn it, these things seem to just crop up on every message board and they're always about the same thing: something bad happened today, the world is out to get me, myparents/girlfriend/buddies/dog/ect. just don't understand me, yadda yadda yadda. Most of the time they're just attention-whoring, and if you don't support your position they turn rabid on you and act like they actually know something.

Your thoughts?
To anyone with a problem of some sort, its the main problem in the entire world. One of the things that happens with teenagers is that they are in a twilight world of "in between." They're not yet fully adults, but there are many times when adult behavior is expected of them. This generates conflicts with others as well as internal conflict.

Many of the things that happen to teenagers are new experiences, and they often have no framework into which to insert these experiences.

It's all very confusing and sometimes very troubling. I suggest you might want to take this into account before you lump them all into some derogatory category based on your own, personal frame of reference.

"Punk": Greenday (They said it, not me)

Geek/Nerd: G4.
G4!? Those dudes who rebelled against what pop music should be to sing opera instead? There more punk than Greenday ever was!

It is a general rule that all the annoying people in the world will be ostricized in the real world (or IRL if you prefer), and thus they will embrace the only other "world" where at the very least they can post thier feelings anonymously...even if no one gives a damn.

That having been said, I, a citizen of the Internets, call for the immediate deportation of all nuisances.

Damn it, these things seem to just crop up on every message board and they're always about the same thing: something bad happened today, the world is out to get me, myparents/girlfriend/buddies/dog/ect. just don't understand me, yadda yadda yadda. Most of the time they're just attention-whoring, and if you don't support your position they turn rabid on you and act like they actually know something.

Your thoughts?
(poll coming)
meh, it depends on the whine of course, but often it does help to talk or rant about percived problems in your life. sometimes it's better to do so anonymously to strangers on an internet forum, sometimes you don't have anyone else to talk to.
whether or not its "attention-whoring" or not is another matter: if the thread is all 'what should i do???? nobody understands me!!1 listen to meeee!!!!' then yeah, that's attention whoring. but most aren't like that.

i don't really see the problem anyway: those kinds of threads really are easy enough to ignore if you can't stand them. its not like anyone's forcing you to read them.

i don't really see the problem anyway: those kinds of threads really are easy enough to ignore if you can't stand them. its not like anyone's forcing you to read them.
But if you do read them then it's no point saying "you didn't have to read it;" because I just did. I don't know what it's about unless I read it...

But if you do read them then it's no point saying "you didn't have to read it;" because I just did. I don't know what it's about unless I read it...
you can get a hint of what it's about from the tooltip thingy when you hover over the thread title, no?
you can stop reading halfway through, no? after the first sentence, after realising 'this is some emo shit', right?

The Emo-Ranters may be attention whores, but I think the people who rant about the emo-ranters are attention mongers just as much if not more.