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If you ever needed to talk about ANY subject under the sun this is the site to go to to research how Bush LIED about it--please check it out but dont hold it against me if you get appalled
http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.june.htm

I bet you masturbate to sound of Michael Moore reading from SCUM Manifesto whilst videotaping a tire fire.

This makes me want to vote for Bush next election.:D

I bet you masturbate to sound of Michael Moore reading from SCUM Manifesto whilst videotaping a tire fire.
ooo baby

This makes me want to vote for Bush next election.:D
Bush is already setting the stage to cancel the 08 election--remember I said this

Trillions? Arn't you exaggerating just a wee bit.

Trillions? Arn't you exaggerating just a wee bit.
when you do something enough it becomes infinity

Don't worry, I'll remember ye statement when I'm voting in 08.;)

Bush is already setting the stage to cancel the 08 election--remember I said this
Even I have to say that’s fucking ludicrous.

Well Im certainly disappointed by that site. I don't think it even had 1000. I guess the inability to count is a byproduct and paranoia and excessive intakes of marijuana.

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Well Im certainly disappointed by that site. I don't think it even had 1000. I guess the inability to count is a byproduct and paranoia and excessive intakes of marijuana.
marijuana cuts thru the Bullshyte

I thought it just makes you high. Btw, weren't you saying that the 04 election was going to be cancelled? Can't say I trust your paranoid foreshadowing; it's a bit inaccurate.

Trillions? Arn't you exaggerating just a wee bit.

I've told him a million times not to exaggerate.

How in the UHF does one go about getting a rating on a thread? *grr*

It doesn't matter if you're left- or right-wing; Bush is a liar. If you're conservative, I suggest voting for Michael Anthony Peroutka (http://www.peroutka2004.com/) if he decides to run in '08.

I bet you masturbate to sound of Michael Moore reading from SCUM Manifesto whilst videotaping a tire fire.
Does it read something like this? :D

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10616172&postcount=66

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Trillions? Arn't you exaggerating just a wee bit.
Of course, liberals exggerate all time, I dont think they have been right even a little bit ever.

Bush is already setting the stage to cancel the 08 election--remember I said this

I really hope your joking, maybe you should be more concerned about dear old President Putin not leaving office in 08. Because that would really fuck the world up.

I really hope your joking, maybe you should be more concerned about dear old President Putin not leaving office in 08. Because that would really fuck the world up.

I could see either of the above happening. Granted, I don't see a god chance of Bush refusing to step down, but the chance of Putin reusing to step down is probably greater. The chances of simultaneous Bush and Putin dictatorships, especially in a dangerous, bloodthirsty worls ripe for a major war, is a very outside shot, but the consequences could be disastrous.

I would say that the odds of Bush pulling a stunt like that are about one in 20. The odds of him getting away with it are at least 50/50.
I would say the odds of Putin not stepping down are about one in four. The odds of him getting away with it are damn near guaranteed.

I really hope your joking, maybe you should be more concerned about dear old President Putin not leaving office in 08. Because that would really fuck the world up.

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." — President George W. Bush -- Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

And you say you are worried about innocent old Putin?

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." — President George W. Bush -- Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

And you say you are worried about innocent old Putin?

teehee...i love random bush quotes, especially the ones like this.

innocent old putin? are you on something, my dear friend?

teehee...i love random bush quotes, especially the ones like this.

innocent old putin? are you on something, my dear friend?

On something? No. Not much, in any case. Put really, Putin isn't exactly a revolutionary...Bush causes more of a stir.

On something? No. Not much, in any case. Put really, Putin isn't exactly a revolutionary...Bush causes more of a stir.

Putin is already establishing some kind of a personality cult in Russia, but i don't think you're going to see statues of Bush going up around the US any time soon.

Putin is already establishing some kind of a personality cult in Russia, but i don't think you're going to see statues of Bush going up around the US any time soon.

As I have told you Lady, personalities fluctuate.

And Hades, if there ever is a statue of Bush, I make it my personal duty to paintball it, pull it down, and pistol-whip it with all those damned american guns that keep floating up to Canada.

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." — President George W. Bush -- Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

And you say you are worried about innocent old Putin?

Yep, because I live in reality.

As I have told you Lady, personalities fluctuate.

And Hades, if there ever is a statue of Bush, I make it my personal duty to paintball it, pull it down, and pistol-whip it with all those damned american guns that keep floating up to Canada.

exactly, but Putin statues ARE going up around Russia, and he's also reinstated a lot of the old commie symbols. There's no doubt he's trying to bring Russia back to the power it had during the Cold War.

but can i join you in the paintballing of bush statues? it sounds like fun :D

Yep, because I live in reality.

Putin (as of yet) has not waged war on a defenseless country.

Putin (as of yet) has not waged war on a defenseless country.

That's because he's not strong enough, and there's the US constantly breathing down his neck.

Putin (as of yet) has not waged war on a defenseless country.

Yep, I feel so fucking sorry for Saddam.

Yep, I feel so fucking sorry for Saddam.

Why? Should you not, instead, have a heart for all those poor innocent people that have died at the hands of Americans being dictated to by Bush?

Why? Should you not, instead, have a heart for all those poor innocent people that have died at the hands of Americans being dictated to by Bush?

Do you not have a heart for all those killed by Saddam?

Putin (as of yet) has not waged war on a defenseless country.

Although don't be surprised if he takes a page from Shrub's playbook/coloring book and calls a pre-emptive strike on Chechnya.

Do you not have a heart for all those killed by Saddam?

But of course. But is 'eye for an eye' a logical solution to problems? Shakespeare seemed to like to use it with the protagonists of his tragedies (ex. the classic Hamlet). But what happened to all of them? They died. Why? Because they were flawed.

I bet you masturbate to sound of Michael Moore reading from SCUM Manifesto whilst videotaping a tire fire.

Trust me. He does.

But of course. But is 'eye for an eye' a logical solution to problems? Shakespeare seemed to like to use it with the protagonists of his tragedies (ex. the classic Hamlet). But what happened to all of them? They died. Why? Because they were flawed.

Or.... because they were fictitious characters, and the author had wanted them to die simply because it made for a more interesting tale. A wonderfully irrelevant point. Thank you.

I bet you masturbate to sound of Michael Moore reading from SCUM Manifesto whilst videotaping a tire fire.

Michael Moore masturbates to the sound of Neo Kervoskia eating cheetos.

Michael Moore masturbates to the sound of Neo Kervoskia eating cheetos.
You forgot about Myotisinia peeping in on him, salivating (mostly for the cheetos):

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10617531&postcount=35

Is this guy Romulus Os the same as MKULTRA?

Putin (as of yet) has not waged war on a defenseless country.
Chechnya had fewer defenses than Iraq, and Putin's war there has been much more lethal.

Chechnya had fewer defenses than Iraq, and Putin's war there has been much more lethal.
Technically, Chechnya isn't a country.

Hmmm, trillions eh? Damn, I didn't know Bush jabbered that much. I could maybe see Franken or Limbaugh getting up there, but not the president.

Or.... because they were fictitious characters, and the author had wanted them to die simply because it made for a more interesting tale. A wonderfully irrelevant point. Thank you.

Perhaps you need to take some english lessons 'oh learn-ed one', as is it not known that art is an imitation of life?

You know my point? Thought of by the one and only Ghandi. Peace maker. General all-around nice guy. If you mock me, you mock him. And noone mocks Ghandi. Not even Saddam.

Bush is a wonderful guy too though. I must say. One who would like to be the dictator and doesn't of the most influential country in modern times, deserves a medal. Or at least to be mocked. But not Ghandi. Noone mocks Ghandi.

Yep, I feel so fucking sorry for Saddam.

Bush is doing evil in Iraq. Saddam did evil in Iraq. So far, they're equal. However, Bush is worse in my book because he's doing evil in the name of good, and trying to deceive people on top of killing them. And besides, I don't remember Iraq being on the brink of a civil war when Saddam was in power. Even though the conditions were horrible, at least they were stable. Now it's both horrible and unstable at the same time. What a wonderful time for the Iraqis to be alive. :rolleyes:

Bush is doing evil in Iraq. Saddam did evil in Iraq. So far, they're equal. However, Bush is worse in my book because he's doing evil in the name of good, and trying to deceive people on top of killing them. And besides, I don't remember Iraq being on the brink of a civil war when Saddam was in power. Even though the conditions were horrible, at least they were stable. Now it's both horrible and unstable at the same time. What a wonderful time for the Iraqis to be alive. :rolleyes:

Another blow for moral relativism.

The difference between Saddam and George is that Saddam was intentionally killing innocent civilians in order to maintain a stranglehold over the nation and retain power whereas George is attempting to protect innocent civilians from Iraqi militants in order to establish peace and democracy.

It is not a great time for Iraqis to be alive, nobody is pretending that it is, but let's not delude ourselves that Iraq is somehow uniquely terrible in global terms just because we've got cameras there.

I have a general question, because I'd be interested to hear the response. If Iraq does descend into civil war, do people feel that the US is solely to blame or that the Iraqis themselves must share some responsibility?

Bush is doing evil in Iraq. Saddam did evil in Iraq. So far, they're equal. However, Bush is worse in my book because he's doing evil in the name of good, and trying to deceive people on top of killing them. And besides, I don't remember Iraq being on the brink of a civil war when Saddam was in power. Even though the conditions were horrible, at least they were stable. Now it's both horrible and unstable at the same time. What a wonderful time for the Iraqis to be alive. :rolleyes:

Another blow for moral relativism.

The difference between Saddam and George is that Saddam was intentionally killing innocent civilians in order to maintain a stranglehold over the nation and retain power whereas George is attempting to protect innocent civilians from Iraqi militants in order to establish peace and democracy.

It is not a great time for Iraqis to be alive, nobody is pretending that it is, but let's not delude ourselves that Iraq is somehow uniquely terrible in global terms just because we've got lots of cameras there.

I have a general question, because I'd be interested to hear the response. If Iraq does descend into civil war, do people feel that the US is solely to blame or that the Iraqis themselves must share some responsibility?

are we talken about the same george who sent our soldiers to die in Iraq based on over hyped non existent threats with no armour and who charges wounded soldiers hundreds of dollars for damaged equipment/gear on the battlefield while hes cutting their health benefits at home and rewarding Halliburton for giving them toxic water? are we talken about that George? or the George of Abu Ghraib who tortures people detained for years and years without trial in a fate much worse then death?

are we talken about the same george who sent our soldiers to die in Iraq based on over hyped non existent threats with no armour and who charges wounded soldiers hundreds of dollars for damaged equipment/gear on the battlefield while hes cutting their health benefits at home and rewarding Halliburton for giving them toxic water? are we talken about that George? or the George of Abu Ghraib who tortures people detained for years and years without trial in a fate much worse then death?

I think he is talking about the George who used the events of 9/11 to rehash the constitution with the executive branch on top.

Chechnya had fewer defenses than Iraq, and Putin's war there has been much more lethal.

There’s a big difference in temperament. Chechnyans have a warrior tradition and were feared soldiers when they were in the Soviet army. When the Russians went in the first time they actually temporarily stopped ground assaults because all they were doing was arming the Chechnyan fighters (who operated in groups of three, one guy with a rifle and two picking up weapons from the Russian army victims of the one guy carrying the rifle). If the Arabs had the same degree of militancy the Chechnyans had the Middle East would be a whole lot scarier and the British and French wouldn’t have stuck around as long as they did ruling their colonies.

Iraqis aren’t themselves all that warlike as a people but have been under the sway of a series of colonial masters and puppet dictators who were. Trust me, the US would be in much worse trouble than they already are if they invaded a nation with the kind of fighting spirit Chechnyans have. Those guys are psychotic.

The Bruce

Putin is a right nasty piece of work. For one thing he’s not only dangerous, both to his own people and foreigners, but he’s actually smart and dangerous. On the bright side, the mafia merry go round under Yeltsin is over. Under Putin, belonging to the Russian Mafia is no longer considered the best way to get invited to Presidential dinners, unless it’s as one of the main courses. On the other hand, Putin ordered the bombing of his own people (the blowing up apartment buildings in Russia by the government is pretty much an accepted fact in the Intelligence community) to provide a pretense for having a second kick at Chechnya. This is completely different from what happened with the US, because the American government only exercised gross incompetence to allow themselves to get attacked by terrorists and weren’t directly responsible for attacking themselves.

People make a lot of hay about Bush’s push towards jingoism, brutality, and militarizing space, but Putin is doing more pushing on those subjects. What isn’t helpful is having Bush go in that direction far enough to make it easy for Putin to get away with pretty much whatever he wants. The scale of brutality in Chechnya is much worse than what the US are doing in Iraq these days. It’s just that I think people don’t think that the US should be getting into a pissing contest with Russia over who is breaking international law more.

The Bruce

Is this guy Romulus Os the same as MKULTRA?
That would be the scuttlebutt. But s/he ain't likely to ante up straightforward on it.
I have my suspicions.
I like them in a way. They really spice up a few threads.

That's because he's not strong enough, and there's the US constantly breathing down his neck.
how strong do you have to be to attack a defenseless country??

I think he is talking about the George who used the events of 9/11 to rehash the constitution with the executive branch on top.
is he related to that George who sat in a class room on 911 with kids holding the book My Pet Goat upside down blinking like an idiot for 40 minutes?

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Because we're laughing so hard at the shit that's coming out of your mouth!

stop picking on the dead:sniper:

Russia doesn't have as much of a sway in the world anymore. I'd be a lot more scared towards Overlord Bush than I would be towards Overlord Putin. I don't have if they have as many nukes as the US does, Bush is the kind of guy who would actually use them...

I wonder if letting an idiot into power is the recipie for cold wars?... You know what, just add a tablespoon of capitalism and you've got it.