NationStates Jolt Archive


Should the Third NS Election be declared illegitimate?

The Chinese Republics
22-03-2006, 01:45
There are growing numbers of suspicion of puppet voting and vote rigging.

This is what happened all in one day:

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/586/a1zh1.jpg

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/1841/b0ve.jpg

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/5949/c0ls.jpg

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/8551/d4fn.jpg

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4416/e5yq.jpg

also:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8672/pollm182006d8cn.jpg

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4287/pollm182006e4gh.jpg

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2060/pollm182006f4qw.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2884/pollm192006a3tv.jpg



Should the Third NS Election be declared illegitimate?

Minimum 250 voters needed to declare the polls rigged.
Undelia
22-03-2006, 01:46
Was it legitimate before?:p
Maraque
22-03-2006, 01:47
Yes it should.
M3rcenaries
22-03-2006, 01:48
I dont think the conservatives who put lots of time into legitmate arguements should be penalized by a bad apple. Then agian, I definatley see your point that the election could have voter fraud.
Splang
22-03-2006, 01:48
Moles aren't rodents. :mad:
Thriceaddict
22-03-2006, 01:50
Booooooo!
Now the conservaties are catching up, you want to declare it illegitimate.
Vetalia
22-03-2006, 01:54
What we need is to make it public polling and to require all people planning to vote to declare it in a thread for that purpose and be recorded beforehand. Anyone who doesn't do so can't vote or their vote is nullified.

I have to admit, the results seem rather heavily biased in favor of the conservatives compared to the NSCL or other parties.
Neu Leonstein
22-03-2006, 01:57
Let it run. We'll deal with the result when it's final.

My suspicion at the moment is not so much about puppet voting as it is about lots of propaganda campaigns in all sorts of regions which usually have nothing whatsoever to do with General. Which is also sort of questionable, but not explicitly illegal.

Which doesn't exclude that some NSCP people might have used puppets, because 13 votes in four hours so late in the election is unusual.
Greill
22-03-2006, 01:57
No. What's done is done. There's no real proof other than some suspicion in some parties. I will not say why I think this is so, but it is still only alleged and not proven. If you want to reform the election for next time, that is perfectly fine, but it would be irritating to all of the voters and debaters to have everything set back.
Argesia
22-03-2006, 01:58
What we need is to make it public polling and to require all people planning to vote to declare it in a thread for that purpose and be recorded beforehand. Anyone who doesn't do so can't vote or their vote is nullified.
Good idea.
Aylan
22-03-2006, 01:58
Well, Im a liberal and I even say no. YOU HAVE NO PROOF!
Vetalia
22-03-2006, 01:59
No. What's done is done. There's no real proof other than some suspicion in some parties. I will not say why I think this is so, but it is still only alleged and not proven. If you want to reform the election for next time, that is perfectly fine, but it would be irritating to all of the voters and debaters to have everything set back.

I agree, it's too late now. We'll have to get these changes put in place for the next election...there's just not enough proof here and what is available is purely circumstantial.

Next election, we'll change it. We need a Supreme Court to certify these things...
CthulhuFhtagn
22-03-2006, 02:02
Next election, we'll change it. We need a Supreme Court to certify these things...
I shall be the Chief Justice. Bribes start at $50.
Fleckenstein
22-03-2006, 02:03
I shall be the Chief Justice. Bribes start at $50.

ooh, ooh, i could dissent and be pouty to the press!
bribes start at 3 cookies
money gladly appreciated
Valori
22-03-2006, 02:05
It's amazing how as soon as the DSP runs any risk of not trampling the competition, they cry foul.

As I said before, there was legislature put forth, and voted in, in the last elections and it is every parties fault for not insuring that the procedure was followed. Had the poll been public, and had other steps been taken to insure security then there would have been no excuse for you to complain this way. Your whining is just as pointless as those of the birthday thread, except your complaints are serious, which makes it even funnier.

Hanging chads anyone?
Vetalia
22-03-2006, 02:05
I shall be the Chief Justice. Bribes start at $50.

I'll raise R'lyeh from the sea if you put me on the court...
Bobs Own Pipe
22-03-2006, 02:05
*sighs*

Does this mean I've got to go through another election cluttering up General?

I voted once. Didn't so much as wake up any of my puppets, as I just couldn't be bothered.

*grumbles*
Thomish Kingdom
22-03-2006, 02:08
Of course it shouldent be! Looks like the electors agree. Anyway its too late the election is almost over!
CthulhuFhtagn
22-03-2006, 02:09
I'll raise R'lyeh from the sea if you put me on the court...
Done.
Santa Barbara
22-03-2006, 02:10
Well, Im a liberal and I even say no. YOU HAVE NO PROOF!

What an interesting first post to make.

The funny bit is how many puppets will vote in this poll too.
Neo Kervoskia
22-03-2006, 02:11
The electors agree because they're fucking tired of this election.
Kryozerkia
22-03-2006, 02:12
Booooooo!
Now the conservaties are catching up, you want to declare it illegitimate.
I suggest you look at the date and times on the screen caps first, as well as the numbers.
Thomish Kingdom
22-03-2006, 02:12
What an interesting first post to make.

The funny bit is how many puppets will vote in this poll too.

LOL! Whats funny is your desperate attacks!
Vetalia
22-03-2006, 02:14
Done.

R'leyh rises from the sea...Ph'ngluiv mglw'nfah Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn...oh shit, I'm now going to die.
Thomish Kingdom
22-03-2006, 02:14
JUST BECAUSE THE CONSERVATIVES ARE CATCHING UP DSP ARE SCRAMBLING FOR THIS ELECTION TO BE CALLED OFF! LOL

ONE OF MANY REASONS TO VOTE CONSERVATIVE
Swilatia
22-03-2006, 02:15
it should be declard null and void.
Santa Barbara
22-03-2006, 02:16
LOL! Whats funny is your desperate attacks!

And my "attacks" are desperate because of... why?

You're acting awful defensive considering I haven't accused you or your party of anything...
Neo Kervoskia
22-03-2006, 02:16
JUST BECAUSE THE CONSERVATIVES ARE CATCHING UP DSP ARE SCRAMBLING FOR THIS ELECTION TO BE CALLED OFF! LOL

ONE OF MANY REASONS TO VOTE CONSERVATIVE
...
Kryozerkia
22-03-2006, 02:19
JUST BECAUSE THE CONSERVATIVES ARE CATCHING UP DSP ARE SCRAMBLING FOR THIS ELECTION TO BE CALLED OFF! LOL

ONE OF MANY REASONS TO VOTE CONSERVATIVE
Writing in all caps is one way to drive away voters. :rolleyes: You're not winning over anyone with ALL CAPS.
Bobs Own Pipe
22-03-2006, 02:32
Alright, alright. I wish you'd have just described it in the OP instead of linking to all those screen grabs. Confusing as Hell. Also, one of them is marked "P.M." when it should be A.M. but what the hey.

Illegitimate, illegitimate.

I'll vote on the poll, already.
Thomish Kingdom
22-03-2006, 02:34
Writing in all caps is one way to drive away voters. :rolleyes: You're not winning over anyone with ALL CAPS.

I dident even nkow i did it in caps. No big deal is it?
Neo Kervoskia
22-03-2006, 02:34
I dident even nkow i did it in caps. No big deal is it?
Yes, the biggest of deals.