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Why are conservatives so out of touch?

Linthiopia
21-03-2006, 19:28
I'm just wondering why people like George Bush, Donald Rumsfield, Dick Cheney, and Ann Coulter are so out of touch with America. They seem to ignore the will of the American people at every turn. I mean, are they trying to destroy America? Your thoughts.
Linthiopia
21-03-2006, 19:28
Hehe, sorry folks, couldn't resist. No serious responses expected, but feel free to if you want.....
Neo Kervoskia
21-03-2006, 19:29
'cause of the Jewish conspiracy?
Argesia
21-03-2006, 19:33
They are not out of touch. They present fairy-tales that their public can use to remain lumpen-proletarian. Their public is out of touch, and is being kept out of touch.

I gues I'm just stressing the obvious here - I don't picture any person who'd agree with me not being able to ellaborate on this even further.

Funny thing: I read Coulter opposed voting rights for women. It's a vicious cicle: women are idiots, according to her, so I shouldn't listen to what Coulter has to say about female voting. Kinda like the liar's paradox.
Mooseica
21-03-2006, 19:34
Oh that's easy it's because those damn filthy liberals keep clogging up the world with their filthy lies about peak oil and toruring being wrong and generally, you know, bing nice to people being a good thing.
Pantygraigwen
21-03-2006, 19:34
I'm just wondering why people like George Bush, Donald Rumsfield, Dick Cheney, and Ann Coulter are so out of touch with America. They seem to ignore the will of the American people at every turn. I mean, are they trying to destroy America? Your thoughts.

They are out of touch because they are LIZARDS! HUGE GREEN SCALY LIZARDS RULING US SO THEY CAN IMPREGNATE US WITH THEIR LIZARD BABIES.

or something.
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 19:34
I'm just wondering why people like George Bush, Donald Rumsfield, Dick Cheney, and Ann Coulter are so out of touch with America. They seem to ignore the will of the American people at every turn. I mean, are they trying to destroy America? Your thoughts.
You forgot Fred Phelps and a whole bunch of others.
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 19:35
They are out of touch because they are LIZARDS! HUGE GREEN SCALY LIZARDS RULING US SO THEY CAN IMPREGNATE US WITH THEIR LIZARD BABIES.

or something.
Well they can breathe fire, they have nice shiny scales and some have horns and wings...nay, not lizzards...Dragons I say.
Linthiopia
21-03-2006, 19:37
You forgot Fred Phelps and a whole bunch of others.

Yeah, but the original qoute only had 4 people listed, so I just pulled 4 Conservatives off the top of my head. :p
Pantygraigwen
21-03-2006, 19:38
Well they can breathe fire, they have nice shiny scales and some have horns and wings...nay, not lizzards...Dragons I say.

Nah, Dragons have high wisdom.

Shit, i just had a "bored teenager in dead end town in the 80s forced to play D&D for recreation" flashback, excuse me.
The Half-Hidden
21-03-2006, 19:42
You forgot Fred Phelps and a whole bunch of others.
Fred Phelps is not really on the bandwagon with Bush, Rumsfeld, or even Falwell and Robertson. He's far beyond that. Everyone hates him anyway.
The UN abassadorship
21-03-2006, 19:42
This thread has me at a loss for words, shame on you
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
21-03-2006, 19:44
This thread has me at a loss for words, shame on you

What, shouldn't you be inspired? Your trolling has spawned a counter-troll.
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 19:44
Nah, Dragons have high wisdom.

Shit, i just had a "bored teenager in dead end town in the 80s forced to play D&D for recreation" flashback, excuse me.
White dragons have a low wisdom and intellect...they are just slightly above animalistic predators...so it's entirely possible.
Drunk commies deleted
21-03-2006, 19:44
I'm just wondering why people like George Bush, Donald Rumsfield, Dick Cheney, and Ann Coulter are so out of touch with America. They seem to ignore the will of the American people at every turn. I mean, are they trying to destroy America? Your thoughts.
They can't be too out of touch. They control the executive and legislative branches of government. People did elect them to power.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
21-03-2006, 19:45
White dragons have a low wisdom and intellect...they are just slightly above animalistic predators...so it's entirely possible.

And...conservatives...are....white....

*has scary D&D/Vast Right Wing Conspiracy revelation*
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 19:46
Yeah, but the original qoute only had 4 people listed, so I just pulled 4 Conservatives off the top of my head. :p
There is noone more out of touch than that man though :p
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 19:46
And...conservatives...are....white....

*has scary D&D/Vast Right Wing Conspiracy revelation*
Oh no, you get black ones too...but they aren't necessarily smarter. :p

But one minute...White Dragons breathe frost, and Black ones acid...so where does the fire fit in? :confused:
Anarchic Conceptions
21-03-2006, 19:49
This thread has me at a loss for words, shame on you


Take a bow Linthiopia, you've made UN abassadorship shut up.

If only you could make him go off line as well, like he did when it was shown he was using a puppet to support himself.
The UN abassadorship
21-03-2006, 19:51
What, shouldn't you be inspired? Your trolling has spawned a counter-troll.
I have never, and will never troll
Neo Kervoskia
21-03-2006, 19:52
I have never, and will never troll
But that still means that you could be trolling right now.
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 19:53
I have never, and will never troll
"The Lord be my witness, and may He strike me down if I tell a lie."

Was that lightning I heard? :eek:
PsychoticDan
21-03-2006, 19:53
Because they're too ideologically rigid and too incompetent.
Drunk commies deleted
21-03-2006, 19:53
I have never, and will never troll
Aw, come on. Just troll a little. You know you want to.
Czardas
21-03-2006, 19:56
Oh no, you get black ones too...but they aren't necessarily smarter. :p

But one minute...White Dragons breathe frost, and Black ones acid...so where does the fire fit in? :confused:
Red ones of course! And red = red states = states that voted for bush = CONSERVATIVES!!! ;)
AlanSmithee
21-03-2006, 19:57
They just need a little love in their hearts.

~Alan Smithee
Director of Street Walkers 3~
Linthiopia
21-03-2006, 19:58
Red ones of course! And red = red states = states that voted for bush = CONSERVATIVES!!! ;)

It's all so obvious! The world makes sense now!
...
So we must... Kill the Wizard?
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 19:58
Red ones of course! And red = red states = states that voted for bush = CONSERVATIVES!!! ;)
Red ones are the uber evil ones. But still, way too high in Wisdom and Intelligence. Maybe the evil clouds their judgement though, so yes, it is Red Dragons. :p
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 19:58
It's all so obvious! The world makes sense now!
...
So we must... Kill the Wizard?
No, we must kill Tiamat, their god.
Linthiopia
21-03-2006, 20:00
No, we must kill Tiamat, their god.

*takes out his Long Sword of Godslaying +1*
*rolls initiative*
4. Damn.
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 20:00
*takes out his Long Sword of Godslaying +1*
*rolls initiative*
4. Damn.
And so the multi-headed beast incinerates the hapless fool.
Mooseica
21-03-2006, 20:01
*takes out his Long Sword of Godslaying +1*
*rolls initiative*
4. Damn.

I'm pretty sure you need a +3 weapon at least to harm a really powerful dragon... or was it +5? (Baldur's Gate 2)
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 20:09
I'm pretty sure you need a +3 weapon at least to harm a really powerful dragon... or was it +5? (Baldur's Gate 2)
Gods are immune to all physical weapons. This godslaying weapon is some liberal invention. :eek:
Unified Home
21-03-2006, 20:10
I'm just wondering why people like George Bush, Donald Rumsfield, Dick Cheney, and Ann Coulter are so out of touch with America. They seem to ignore the will of the American people at every turn. I mean, are they trying to destroy America? Your thoughts.

The concept that George Bush (I) came up with, "The New World Order". Since George Bush (II) came to power he has been trying Restore this legacy which was dismantled by the Clinton administration. Now they might have US Forces fighting on every continent ever black bag operations or open wars such as Iraq and Afghanistan.
Pantygraigwen
21-03-2006, 20:10
I'm pretty sure you need a +3 weapon at least to harm a really powerful dragon... or was it +5? (Baldur's Gate 2)

You need Minsc and Boo, thats what you need.
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 20:11
You need Minsc and Boo, thats what you need.
No, you need Viconia, abil. And the mighty Edwin Odeisseren.
Pantygraigwen
21-03-2006, 20:12
No, you need Viconia, abil. And the mighty Edwin Odeisseren.

GO FOR THE EYES BOO, GO FOR THE EYES!

no competition.
People without names
21-03-2006, 20:12
i had a feeling this thread wasnt too far behind
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 20:13
GO FOR THE EYES BOO, GO FOR THE EYES!

no competition.
*Flame Strike* & *Circle of Blades*

Oh, anyone feel like some minced, well-done hamster?

"Mercy is for the weak...and the dead." ;)
Pantygraigwen
21-03-2006, 20:15
*Flame Strike* & *Circle of Blades*

Oh, anyone feel like some minced, well-done hamster?

Humph. Now you've pissed Minsc off, i wouldn't do that if i was you.

Tell you who i did hate though, that pussy Paladin. What was his name? God, so tedious and worthy*

*see also, all druids ever, basically the most repugnantly smug hippy tossers on earth.
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 20:17
Humph. Now you've pissed Minsc off, i wouldn't do that if i was you.

Tell you who i did hate though, that pussy Paladin. What was his name? God, so tedious and worthy*

*see also, all druids ever, basically the most repugnantly smug hippy tossers on earth.
Basically, Viconia pwns all. Even Minsc. :) And, even though I am gay, she had the sexiest voice in the game.

Do you mean Anomen by the way? And yes, the tree-hugging hippies sucked.
Pantygraigwen
21-03-2006, 20:18
Basically, Viconia pwns all. Even Minsc. :)

Do you mean Anomen by the way?

God, yes. Yawn yawn yawn. For godsakes. Now i know why i used to play Chaotic Nuetral characters in proper D&D.
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 20:20
God, yes. Yawn yawn yawn. For godsakes. Now i know why i used to play Chaotic Nuetral characters in proper D&D.
I went for evil parties, even though my oh-so righteous elven sorceress was lawful good. :p Well, she pretended to be anyway. Anomen also sucks as a Cleric. I did his quest to get the XP, and then ditched the pretentious wannabe. Worse than Nalia, Mazzee and Aerie combined.
DrunkenDove
21-03-2006, 20:21
Basically, Viconia pwns all.

Lies. Edwin pwns all.

Worse than Nalia, Mazzee and Aerie combined.

Lies. Aerie is the most annoyingly stupid character ever.
Pantygraigwen
21-03-2006, 20:22
I went for evil parties, even though my oh-so righteous elven sorceress was lawful good. :p Well, she pretended to be anyway. Anomen also sucks as a Cleric. I did his quest to get the XP, and then ditched the pretentious wannabe. Worse than Nalia, Mazzee and Aerie combined.

Oh god, Aerie? What a whinging git.

Nice arse mind.
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 20:22
Lies. Edwin pwns all.
It's a tie. I like them both. :p
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
21-03-2006, 20:23
No, we must kill Tiamat, their god.

Well, if we make it Takhisis, Tiamat's Dragonlance counterpart, then we just need to find a certain magic user with hourglass eyes and he can kill her for us. I mean, he's done it before.
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 20:26
Oh god, Aerie? What a whinging git.

Nice arse mind.
She had her wings clipped...big deal...I mean move on with your pathetic life. Viconia pretty much lets her have it. :p
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 20:26
Well, if we make it Takhisis, Tiamat's Dragonlance counterpart, then we just need to find a certain magic user with hourglass eyes and he can kill her for us. I mean, he's done it before.
Yes, and won't he be easy to find.
DrunkenDove
21-03-2006, 20:27
Oh god, Aerie? What a whinging git.

She absolutely outdoes herself in the underdark, when she's disguised as a drow. Ever second sentence out of her mouth "We can't do that, that's evil" even when the party is standing directly in front of an entire drow army. Dear God woman, what part of "pretend to be drow" don't you get?

This ends my BG2 related rant.
Pantygraigwen
21-03-2006, 20:28
She absolutely outdoes herself in the underdark, when she's disguised as a drow. Ever second sentence out of her mouth "We can't do that, that's evil" even when the party is standing directly in front of an entire drow army. Dear God woman, what part of "pretend to be drow" don't you get?

This ends my BG2 related rant.

Ok, BG2 sex icon?

And, Throne of Bhaal, better or worse?
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 20:29
She absolutely outdoes herself in the underdark, when she's disguised as a drow. Ever second sentence out of her mouth "We can't do that, that's evil" even when the party is standing directly in front of an entire drow army. Dear God woman, what part of "pretend to be drow" don't you get?

This ends my BG2 related rant.
Why not sacrifice her to the Demon God instead of the dragon eggs? That way Ardulace stays alive, the Drow live merrily ever after and the world is rid of great evil. Seems like a win-win to me.
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 20:30
Ok, BG2 sex icon?

And, Throne of Bhaal, better or worse?
I think it just climaxed BG 2. Not better, it just made BG 2 even better.
DrunkenDove
21-03-2006, 20:31
Ok, BG2 sex icon?

I have to go with Viconia for that one. Aerie is far too skinny for my liking.

And, Throne of Bhaal, better or worse?

Better or worse than what?
DrunkenDove
21-03-2006, 20:32
Why not sacrifice her to the Demon God instead of the dragon eggs? That way Ardulace stays alive, the Drow live merrily ever after and the world is rid of great evil. Seems like a win-win to me.

You can do that?

*goes off to reinstall BG*
Ceia
21-03-2006, 20:33
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=352

There has been little change in the proportion of adults who describe themselves as conservative (35%), liberal (18%) or moderate (40%) over the last several years. Indeed the numbers have been remarkably stable over the last thirty years. However, this is the first year since 1995 that conservatives have outnumbered liberals by more than two-to-one.

Those who think of themselves as moderate have been close to 40% for thirty years. Conservatives have been close to 35% for several years after peaking at 40% in 1995, after the "Republican revolution" and their midterm election victory of 1994.

Self-described liberals have never risen above 20% (in 1979) or fallen below 15% (in 1974). Since 1975, moderates have never fallen below 38% or risen above 42% (most recently in 1992).
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 20:37
You can do that?

*goes off to reinstall BG*
lol I wish...I prefer the mighty Matron Mother to that skinny tramp.
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 20:37
I have to go with Viconia for that one. Aerie is far too skinny for my liking.
Plus the voice. She had the most awesome voice. She was a dominatrix par excellence. For the male sex symbol, HaerDaelis is my fave.
Liberated Provinces
21-03-2006, 20:52
Nobody has mentioned Jan yet!

He was the coolest guy ever! Much cooler than Quayle. He was a better wizard than Edwin. (or at least more fun) He really was a better thief than anybody else. (especially Imoen, I hated Imoen)

Speaking of which, I think that Imoen was far more annoying than Aerie. And Viconia kept on killing all of the people in my party. Not cool. Especially because I was in the Underdark, and I lost the only healer in my party. I had to make a new game. :headbang:
DrunkenDove
21-03-2006, 20:56
Nobody has mentioned Jan yet!

Jan was just a rip-off of Tiax, the greatest gnome ever.
Liberated Provinces
21-03-2006, 20:59
Ok, Tiax was pretty cool. But then we have to mention Neb...
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 21:01
Ok, Tiax was pretty cool. But then we have to mention Neb...
I slaughtered both of them. :) Oh and as for Viconia, yeah she is one feisty bitch. And Edwin is way cooler than that turnip sniffing gnome.
Liberated Provinces
21-03-2006, 21:07
Edwin is way cooler than that turnip sniffing gnome.

Turnips are what made him awesome! In order to get the silver pantaloons, I froze the noble who had them with a Flasher Master Bruiser Mate and cut him to pieces before he could walk off the map. Best ability ever, making those Bruiser Mates.
Soyut
21-03-2006, 21:12
why would you think that george bush isn't in touch with americans? If he really ignored people, how would he get any votes? For instance, I'm sure he would reform or remove social security if he could, but the AARP(one of the largest voting blocks in America) would cast votes against him and his friends in congress quicker than a quarter horse could cross a volcano.
Europa Maxima
21-03-2006, 21:26
Turnips are what made him awesome! In order to get the silver pantaloons, I froze the noble who had them with a Flasher Master Bruiser Mate and cut him to pieces before he could walk off the map. Best ability ever, making those Bruiser Mates.
Bah, you and your bloody Gnome :p
Ninja Revelry
21-03-2006, 21:42
I'm just wondering why people like George Bush, Donald Rumsfield, Dick Cheney, and Ann Coulter are so out of touch with America. They seem to ignore the will of the American people at every turn. I mean, are they trying to destroy America? Your thoughts.
Because, quite frankly, the American people are dumb. They're ill informed, and yet assume they know everything. The leaders of the nation are the only ones that know the United States' exact position in

1. The War on Terror
2. Iraq

There's a crapload the U.S. government doesn't say, because it can be used against the United States. Let's take the phone taps, for instance. They can't let the public see or know about the warrents because they contain details about who they're tapping. The terrorists would then seek alternative sources of communication, and the U.S. would have a harder time taking them down. That's why the government keeps classified information to begin with.
By the way, thank you news media for exposing the phone tappings! You just extended the war a few more years, and we all want that!
Pantygraigwen
22-03-2006, 18:28
Nobody has mentioned Jan yet!

He was the coolest guy ever! Much cooler than Quayle. He was a better wizard than Edwin. (or at least more fun) He really was a better thief than anybody else. (especially Imoen, I hated Imoen)

Speaking of which, I think that Imoen was far more annoying than Aerie. And Viconia kept on killing all of the people in my party. Not cool. Especially because I was in the Underdark, and I lost the only healer in my party. I had to make a new game. :headbang:

Oh, god, Imoen was consistently annoying for the entirety of the BG series...
Eutrusca
22-03-2006, 18:30
I'm just wondering why people like George Bush, Donald Rumsfield, Dick Cheney, and Ann Coulter are so out of touch with America. They seem to ignore the will of the American people at every turn. I mean, are they trying to destroy America? Your thoughts.
It won't be all that long until the Democrats can have their turn at putting idiots in office.
DrunkenDove
22-03-2006, 18:32
Oh, god, Imoen was consistently annoying for the entirety of the BG series...

Well, she was repeatly raped and then tortured. You have to make allowances.
Mooseica
22-03-2006, 19:06
Imoen was pretty annoying wasn't she? Shame she was also a pretty good character, especially when you giver her... umm... Geison's Bow isn't it? The one that fires homing lightning bolts and doesn't need any ammo, that was awesome.

I personally quite liked Aerie - for all her whining she was a pretty good mage, and her plot was at least interesting (and she was hot :p). Never really had much to do with Viconia - I was playing good (for the commercial bonuses lol) so, needless to say, she didn't exactly hit it off with me and my party.

However, if we're talking awesome females how can you forget Jaheira?! She was a bloody badass! Great fighter, fantastic druid! Saved my arse more than once with her ker-razah ass multiple resurrection thingy. And besides which she was pretty hot too lol. (Good grief I sound like such a nerd. Still, nothing wrong with appreciating a good lookin' pixel :p).

And come on - I think we can all agree that Keldorn kicked total arse. Great armour, good starting sword, and if you give him that awesome +5 paladin-only sword he was unstoppable :D

But seriously, the only true awesome character in the game...

Minsc-and-Boo!!!

"Minsc and Boo leads! Swords for all!"
DrunkenDove
22-03-2006, 19:11
- I was playing good (for the commercial bonuses lol)

I just got the "five finger discount".


However, if we're talking awesome females how can you forget Jaheira?! She was a bloody badass! Great fighter, fantastic druid! Saved my arse more than once with her ker-razah ass multiple resurrection thingy. And besides which she was pretty hot too lol. (Good grief I sound like such a nerd. Still, nothing wrong with appreciating a good lookin' pixel :p).

Jaheria was pretty badass, wasn't she? I still think it was a bit sleazy to be romancing her mere months after the tragic death of Kalid. I mean, they'd been married for like ten years.


And come on - I think we can all agree that Keldorn kicked total arse. Great armour, good starting sword, and if you give him that awesome +5 paladin-only sword he was unstoppable :D

Pssst, +5 sword. I gave him a vorpal blade. Then he was badass.


"Minsc and Boo leads! Swords for all!"

Go for the eyes Boo!
Mooseica
22-03-2006, 19:18
I just got the "five finger discount".

I didn't have any decent thieves to speak of :( Still, I had shed loads of money, so that wasn't such a problem.



Jaheria was pretty badass, wasn't she? I still think it was a bit sleazy to be romancing her mere months after the tragic death of Kalid. I mean, they'd been married for like ten years.

Pfft - he was a poof anyway. She blatently didn't like him that much anyway lol, he wasn't man enough for her.


Pssst, +5 sword. I gave him a vorpal blade. Then he was badass.

Aaah - I gave that too Minsc-and-Boo, my other two-hander. The sword I gave Keldorn (can't remember its name dammit) had all kindsa funky bonuses, so...



Go for the eyes Boo!

Hehehe :D
Ollieland
22-03-2006, 19:49
It won't be all that long until the Democrats can have their turn at putting idiots in office.

Think you put it best there. Lets face it, politicians of nearly any bent are out of touch.
Kaleidoscope Candles
22-03-2006, 20:08
It's all so obvious! The world makes sense now!
...
So we must... Kill the Wizard?

No, silly. Kill the Dungeon Master. He does too much background research and then messes up the game.