NationStates Jolt Archive

Today was primary elections...well at least here in Illinois...If you had them...Did you vote? Who for(party or candidate name will suffice)

I actually didn't vote..I forgot to register...Sooooo un-patriotic of me...:rolleyes:

Today was primary elections...well at least here in Illinois...If you had them...Did you vote? Who for(party or candidate name will suffice)

I actually didn't vote..I forgot to register...Sooooo un-patriotic of me...:rolleyes:
Primary elections down here have been mysteriously "delayed"

I smell a conspiracy a-brewin'

There's apparently some kind of stupid law in my state that I can't vote for another year and a half or something like that. Idiots. I'm far more politically aware than many 21 or 30 year olds, yet I have no say in the future of my country. I propose that, instead of being judged by age, everyone should take some kind of political awareness test every year on their registration forms, and only those who do well enough will be allowed to vote, of any age above about, say, 15. :p

Then again, it's really not worth voting in the USA... I mean, how many votes are the Socialist or Libertarian Parties going to actually win with or without my help?

/waits until he has the money to move to england, france, or somewhere with a better political system (or found his own country!)/

/waits until he has the money to move to england, france, or somewhere with a better political system (or found his own country!)/

I call President!

I don't live in America.

There's apparently some kind of stupid law in my state that I can't vote for another year and a half or something like that. Idiots. I'm far more politically aware than many 21 or 30 year olds, yet I have no say in the future of my country. I propose that, instead of being judged by age, everyone should take some kind of political awareness test every year on their registration forms, and only those who do well enough will be allowed to vote, of any age above about, say, 15. :p

Then again, it's really not worth voting in the USA... I mean, how many votes are the Socialist or Libertarian Parties going to actually win with or without my help?

/waits until he has the money to move to england, france, or somewhere with a better political system (or found his own country!)/

Yeah..I love my european politics class.. im learning all about how much better their political system is than ours. Multiparties rock http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/rockera33/rockon.gif

Yeah..I love my european politics class.. im learning all about how much better their political system is than ours. Multiparties rock http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/rockera33/rockon.gif
What stops you from voting for a third party? (I don't mean "in the primaries" - in the real elections.)

I call President!
Ok! And I call Supreme Ruler and Total Dictator for All Eternity! I also volunteer (well, really, conscript) The UN Abassadorship for my loyal lackey #3, Pure Metal for my loyal lackey #2, [NS]Simonist for Chief Advisor, Banduria for SORLLIDRCA (Some Other Random Loyal Lackey I Don't Really Care About), Syniks for my Minister of War...erh...Defence, Eutrusca as Grand Field Marshal of the Czardas Army, and Cluichstan for Minister of Coming Home Early, Running Up the Stairs Two at a Time, Throwing the Bedroom Door Open, and Yelling "Ha-HA! Caught you, Mildred!" (because every good country needs one... I'm surprised the USA doesn't have at least one!)

Beat that! :p

What stops you from voting for a third party? (I don't mean "in the primaries" - in the real elections.)

Becuase of the knowledge that our two party system will always prohibit us from having a feesible mulitparty goverment.

Becuase of the knowledge that our two party system will always prohibit us from having a feesible mulitparty goverment.
Well, did the UK have anything else than Conservative/Labor in the last 60 years? Did Germany have something else than CDU/SPD in the last 50? Except for the Giscard exception, did France ellude Gaullistes/Socialists in the last 40? Did Spain have anything more than PP/PSOE in the last 30? Etc. Etc.

The point is about getting a third option in the parliamentary body. That is entirely feasible. Plus, though the two-party-system annoys me, the real problem with the American one is that it swallows very different options inside one of the two parties, and they resort to lobbying in order to gain a minor victory.
If were to go for a third option, you would do your share to force coalitions in power (or something very much like them).

Well, did the UK have anything else than Conservative/Labor in the last 60 years? Did Germany have something else than CDU/SPD in the last 50? Except for the Giscard exception, did France ellude Gaullistes/Socialists in the last 40? Did Spain have anything more than PP/PSOE in the last 30? Etc. Etc.

The point is about getting a third option in the parliamentary body. That is entirely feasible. Plus, though the two-party-system annoys me, the real problem with the American one is that it swallows very different options inside one of the two parties, and they resort to lobbying in order to gain a minor victory.
If were to go for a third option, you would do your share to force coalitions in power (or something very much like them).

Ok even still, the general outlook on thirdparties here is not too good..Not too many people recognize them as potentials. many americans see them as more or less candidates that draw votes away from either party..like nader draws votes away from democrats..but really has no great potential.

Ok even still, the general outlook on thirdparties here is not too good..Not too many people recognize them as potentials. many americans see them as more or less candidates that draw votes away from either party..like nader draws votes away from democrats..but really has no great potential.
That focus is based on an unsustainable logic people in America have about what elections ought to do. Again, this is not about the presidential race: no one would think that a third-party candidate would stand a chance.
But gaining seats in Congress etc. is entirely feasible. If you get a third party in Congress, you have the opportunity for a coalition gvt.

The paralogism in America I mentioned actually allows parties to turn into the social clubs they are. For example, the right-wing democrats and the left-wing republicans have more in common with each other than they have with the rest of their respective parties. I took a look at the prominent opinion groups inside the Dem. Party - golly, over here, they'd form 14 different parties! I mean, the rather varied Labo(u)r Party in the UK would only cover 3 or 4% of the options inside the Dem. Party!
Seriously, break the monopoly by going for a different option entirely, and you'll have real ideologies in your representative bodies.

That focus is based on an unsustainable logic people in America have about what elections ought to do. Again, this is not about the presidential race: no one would think that a third-party candidate would stand a chance.
But gaining seats in Congress etc. is entirely feasible. If you get a third party in Congress, you have the opportunity for a coalition gvt.

The paralogism in America I mentioned actually allows parties to turn into the social clubs they are. For example, the right-wing democrats and the left-wing republicans have more in common with each other than they have with the rest of their respective parties. I took a look at the prominent opinion groups inside the Dem. Party - golly, over here, they'd form 14 different parties! I mean, the rather varied Labo(u)r Party in the UK would only cover 3 or 4% of the options inside the Dem. Party!
Seriously, break the monopoly by going for a different option entirely, and you'll have real ideologies in your representative bodies.


Well you sound hopeful. I wish that message of hope and change would be emulated throughout the states.

There's apparently some kind of stupid law in my state that I can't vote for another year and a half or something like that. Idiots. I'm far more politically aware than many 21 or 30 year olds, yet I have no say in the future of my country. I propose that, instead of being judged by age, everyone should take some kind of political awareness test every year on their registration forms, and only those who do well enough will be allowed to vote, of any age above about, say, 15. :p

Then again, it's really not worth voting in the USA... I mean, how many votes are the Socialist or Libertarian Parties going to actually win with or without my help?

/waits until he has the money to move to england, france, or somewhere with a better political system (or found his own country!)/

FOOOOL
england isnt a country!
Anyone who can tell me why gets a shiny donkey!
Americanisms SUCK

Anyone who can tell me why gets a shiny donkey!

Because it's part of Great Britian?

Because it's part of Great Britian?

YES!
because.


England Annexes Wales.
Wales is not a country, welsh nationalists make genocide seem good. (im welsh, im allowed to say it.)
England Annexes Ireland.
Ireland Gains independance.
Scotland-England reach the union pact.
Yay for all, there is not scotland or england, just Britain.
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