NationStates Jolt Archive


Correcting Peoples' Spelling...

Laerod
21-03-2006, 09:19
We all (should) know that it's bad form to attack someone's spelling if you can't get around their arguements. I can't stand it though, when someone misspells a word for the xth time and I can't point it out to them without fear of being called a Grammar-Nazi. Especially when a specific word needs to be clarified, because it could mean different things.

Is there an acceptable manner in which one could point out spelling or grammar mistakes?
Amecian
21-03-2006, 09:22
I can't stand it though, when someone misspells a word for the xth time and I can't point it out to them without fear of being called a Grammar-Nazi.


/is confused

When did that become a 'bad' thing?
Demented Hamsters
21-03-2006, 09:23
I just learned me a nu word:
orthography.
YeeHa! I'm gonna becum wun of them thar authografeecal peeples! You jest watch me!
http://www.answers.com/topic/orthography
Mariehamn
21-03-2006, 09:25
Who said we have to get around their arguments? What if we just want to correct thier spelling? My suggestion is spell and write correctly, and you'll be fine. Some goofs are OK, even for grammar freaks.
Gartref
21-03-2006, 09:25
I just learned me a nu word:
orthography.
YeeHa! I'm gonna becum wun of them thar authografeecal peeples! You jest watch me!
http://www.answers.com/topic/orthography

The Norwegian Bloo has bootiful ploomage.
Soheran
21-03-2006, 09:26
Yes, when the person spells the word incorrectly several times. Mere typos should not be corrected, however, unless the situation really merits it - say, when someone makes a spelling error in a post correcting someone else's spelling.
Kievan-Prussia
21-03-2006, 09:30
When it's obviously just a typo, don't bother correcting it.

When it's one word that they constantly misspell (like when I was spelling "feasible" as "pheasible"), correct it politely.

When they just can't spell, GET 'EM!
Mariehamn
21-03-2006, 09:31
orthography.
Thanks to Fass, DH has learned a new word.
Gartref
21-03-2006, 09:32
I'll bet people posting in this thread are going to be very careful about their spelling.
Demented Hamsters
21-03-2006, 09:36
I'll bet people posting in this thread are going to be very careful about their spelling.
Ill taek u up on dat bet!
Mariehamn
21-03-2006, 09:36
I'll bet people posting in this thread are going to be very careful about their spelling.
Naw; naught reely. i useuali Reyet likesom these hear. Hookd awn foniks rawkz!
Laerod
21-03-2006, 09:38
Naw; naught reely. i useuali Reyet likesom these hear. Hookd awn foniks rawkz!You know that you've just proven Gartref right...
Just because you didn't spell things correctly doesn't mean you weren't careful about it :p
[NS]Simonist
21-03-2006, 09:46
I charge people for spelling and grammar (and quote tags and unreliable sources and a myriad of other things) even if I'm on their side, or if I have no problem with their point. It just bothers me.

A lot of the time, especially with the whole quote tag thing (because apparently my name actually screws it up, though most people don't have that problem), I won't even correct it. I'll just let it muss up my posts and then continue to blame it on them each time I quote them.

But then, not one person has ever, in any amount of seriousness, accused me of being the least bit nice to those who are not my "friends" of sorts....
Gartref
21-03-2006, 09:56
I can never resist correcting when someone misspells "hypocrisy". Ironically, I misspell it myself on occasion - which of course, makes me a hypocrite. I have also been known to misspell misspell. Additionally - I use these stupid hyphens, instead of commas; or colons for my run-on sentences. Yet - all in all, I writes good and use knows it.
Splang
21-03-2006, 11:04
...arguements...
It's "arguments", isn't it?
Laerod
21-03-2006, 11:05
It's "arguments", isn't it?Indeed :p
Peisandros
21-03-2006, 11:13
Spelling. Hmm. I used to be good at it. Now I suck and people correct me all the time.
Kanabia
21-03-2006, 11:19
I do it subtly. When I quote someone's post, i'll usually fix up their spelling errors.

Call it a compulsion :p
I V Stalin
21-03-2006, 11:48
Simonist']I charge people for spelling and grammar (and quote tags and unreliable sources and a myriad of other things) even if I'm on their side, or if I have no problem with their point. It just bothers me.

A lot of the time, especially with the whole quote tag thing (because apparently my name actually screws it up, though most people don't have that problem), I won't even correct it. I'll just let it muss up my posts and then continue to blame it on them each time I quote them.

But then, not one person has ever, in any amount of seriousness, accused me of being the least bit nice to those who are not my "friends" of sorts....
It's not a spelling mistake, but I hate people saying 'a myriad of'. Myriad should be used by itself, so it should say '...unreliable sources and myriad other things'.

But yes, occasional typos shouldn't necessarily be corrected, unless it does change the meaning of what the person is saying. Otherwise, the crime of correcting is worse than the crime of getting it wrong in the first place. If someone repeatedly spells a word incorrectly then he/she should probably be corrected. If they continue to get it wrong, they are obviously retarded.

Aynawy, it deons't mtaetr if you selpl wrods icnrorelty, you olny need to get the fsirt and lsat ltetres in the rhigt pacle. Or smoteihng lkie taht.
Laerod
21-03-2006, 11:51
If someone repeatedly spells a word incorrectly then he/she should probably be corrected. If they continue to get it wrong, they are obviously retarded.People can point out "arguments" to me as much as they want, I'll probably forget it again.

Aynawy, it deons't mtaetr if you selpl wrods icnrorelty, you olny need to get the fsirt and lsat ltetres in the rhigt pacle. Or smoteihng lkie taht.Why exactly do you like smoking? :confused:
Callisdrun
21-03-2006, 11:55
Horrible spelling annoys me. However, I try not to comment on it too much unless it is a post making fun of someone else's spelling, if it is a post about education which I disagree with, or if it renders the post impossible to read.
I V Stalin
21-03-2006, 12:03
People can point out "arguments" to me as much as they want, I'll probably forget it again.
Why exactly do you like smoking? :confused:
That bit was meant to say 'Or something like that'...
Ah, well. Maybe it doesn't work.
Mariehamn
21-03-2006, 12:05
You know that you've just proven Gartref right...
.slei dnshtauo a lei You. .thgri frtrGea nvrpeo tno vhea I.
Splang
21-03-2006, 12:24
That bit was meant to say 'Or something like that'...
Ah, well. Maybe it doesn't work.
It worked for me.
Mariehamn
21-03-2006, 12:28
Ah, well. Maybe it doesn't work.
I don't think it works on people who have learned English as a second language. Well, more people that have learned it as a second language would be unable to figure out what was trying to be expressed than a native English speaker, I think. Because there's no letter "k" in "something". I dunno. Just ignore me.
I V Stalin
21-03-2006, 12:37
I don't think it works on people who have learned English as a second language. Well, more people that have learned it as a second language would be unable to figure out what was trying to be expressed than a native English speaker, I think. Because there's no letter "k" in "something". I dunno. Just ignore me.
I didn't put a 'k' in 'something'...
I guess you're right though. I'm interested in why it works, and why it would matter if the first and last letters aren't in the right place.

I went to a lecture a few weeks back where the guy talked about individual neurons having individual concepts - for example one neuron has the concept of Nationstates and would therefore fire if Nationstates is mentioned, or the person sees the word written down. Anyway.
http://www.galaxy.bedfordshire.gov.uk/webingres/bedfordshire/vlib/0.children_teenagers/0.images/optical.jpg
He used a picture like this as an example. Apparently, the human brain will see the three 'corners' of the triangle, and so will assume that there is a triangle there. That is why a person looking at it will 'see' a triangle.

I assume the whole first/last letter thing has something to do with that.
Mariehamn
21-03-2006, 12:42
I didn't put a 'k' in 'something'...
I never said that, but Laerod thought it was "smoking".
The link. (http://www.galaxy.bedfordshire.gov.uk/webingres/bedfordshire/vlib/0.children_teenagers/0.images/optical.jpg)
I got pacmen, then fortune cookies. I hope I didn't break anything.
Laerod
21-03-2006, 12:45
That bit was meant to say 'Or something like that'...
Ah, well. Maybe it doesn't work.I'm kidding :p
Cannot think of a name
21-03-2006, 12:46
It seems like wankery to go after someones spelling, especially if you know what they meant. I don't need this class to graduate, man. (especially since I've done all the graduating I'm gonna) If you can't understand what the fuck the other person said, then yeah-it's an issue. But otherwise, shake it off and move on. It's not a bee, it's a forum.

That being said, I installed that spellchecker dealy on Firefox to check my spelling on big posts where I either know I mis-spelled something or it's a debate and I don't want some teacher's pet derailing it because I mis-spelled something.

(amusingly enough, Firefox, it turns out, is not in it's dictionary...)
Laerod
21-03-2006, 12:46
I don't think it works on people who have learned English as a second language. Well, more people that have learned it as a second language would be unable to figure out what was trying to be expressed than a native English speaker, I think. Because there's no letter "k" in "something". I dunno. Just ignore me.French is my second language. English is one of my first languages. I was joking. It worked.
Mariehamn
21-03-2006, 12:48
French is my second language. English is one of my first languages. I was joking. It worked.
So where does German come in then?
Laerod
21-03-2006, 12:50
.slei dnshtauo a lei You. .thgri frtrGea nvrpeo tno vhea I.Yöü were cärefül to mäke süre every wörd wäs misspelled simply becäüse the threäd is äböüt spelling wörds correctly. ;)
Laerod
21-03-2006, 12:50
So where does German come in then?First language, just like English.
Mariehamn
21-03-2006, 12:53
Yöü were cärefül to mäke süre every wörd wäs misspelled simply becäüse the threäd is äböüt spelling wörds correctly.
Your lucky I only know how 'ä' and 'ö' sound. Now, I must admit, I was joking. Did you bother to crack the code? Its rather, um, annoying to say the least.
First language, just like English.
*is jealous*
Gonna have to do that my kids.
Laerod
21-03-2006, 12:56
Your lucky I only know how 'ä' and 'ö' sound. Now, I must admit, I was joking. Did you bother to crack the code? Its rather, um, annoying to say the least.That was a code? :rolleyes: Meh. Too simple.
*is jealous*
Gonna have to do that my kids.Sending them to a bilingual school helps, but it's always difficult finding the right one where you live and then getting the kids in...

PS:
You misspelled "going to"
German Nightmare
21-03-2006, 13:25
When it's obviously just a typo, don't bother correcting it.

When it's one word that they constantly misspell (like when I was spelling "feasible" as "pheasible"), correct it politely.

When they just can't spell, GET 'EM!
I second that completely!

I do it subtly. When I quote someone's post, i'll usually fix up their spelling errors.

Call it a compulsion :p
Call it something I do, too ;)

(...)

Aynawy, it deons't mtaetr if you selpl wrods icnrorelty, you olny need to get the fsirt and lsat ltetres in the rhigt pacle. Or smoteihng lkie taht.
Our brain is amazing, isn't it?
It works because our brain stores the information of a word and all its letters as a whole. Because the same letters can make up different words, our brain needs an anchor to pick the right combination, hence the first and last letter need to be correct.

I don't think it works on people who have learned English as a second language.(...)
Oh, but it does. It all depends on whether you know the words that you read. Unknown words do cause a problem 'cause your brain can't find a positive match.

I honestly don't know if I could do that in French, though. German and English are just fine :D

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Grammar_Nazi_small.jpg
Laerod
21-03-2006, 13:27
Nice picture...:p
German Nightmare
21-03-2006, 13:29
Nice picture...:p
Hehe, thanks - I got more...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Spelling-DictionaryNazi.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/grammar-nazi.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Grammar_Nazi.jpg
http://www.mahjqa.com/stuff/grammarnazi.gif
http://foostew.com/uhoh/grammarnazi-sm.jpg

(I had to a little websearch again 'cause the 4th pic had some graphic errors after the upload - and it seems that on page three of my google-picture-search I found a familiar face in the last row... Please tell me that I'm wrong!!!)

http://images.google.de/images?q=grammar+nazi&svnum=10&hl=de&lr=&start=40&sa=N
Valori
21-03-2006, 13:35
I always correct spelling mistakes if I see them, and I welcome people to correct my own.

I don't care if I'm a grammar Nazi, I just don't care...
Jeruselem
21-03-2006, 13:39
Olwaz

...

Alwaz

...

Always :D
Laerod
21-03-2006, 13:43
Hehe, thanks - I got more...
Er... I was actually commenting on the "missing picture" picture.
That card was not nice. A grammar nazi wouldn't be red-green. Blue definitely, maybe red, probably white, but most certainly not green.
German Nightmare
21-03-2006, 14:01
Er... I was actually commenting on the "missing picture" picture.
That card was not nice. A grammar nazi wouldn't be red-green. Blue definitely, maybe red, probably white, but most certainly not green.
Yeah, well - I posted the pic and then realized it was taking up too much space and because I don't like pics taking up half a page I shrunk it down. Apparently I worked fast but not fast enough :D
And don't get me started with Magic - little do I know about that game...

But say - Is that Tink on the last link I provided?
Laerod
21-03-2006, 14:05
But say - Is that Tink on the last link I provided?I don't think so...
German Nightmare
21-03-2006, 14:13
I don't think so...
Oh, good! I froze for a second when I saw that.
Laerod
21-03-2006, 14:14
Oh, good! I froze for a second when I saw that.No. The images I still have from TINK are very different from that one :D
German Nightmare
21-03-2006, 14:29
No. The images I still have from TINK are very different from that one :D
Yeah, I could've compared that one with mine as well - but I was too lazy to dig'em up :D

(BTW, shouldn't it be "The images of Tink I still have..."? Just being the GN here :p)
Mariehamn
21-03-2006, 14:32
That was a code?
Not really. Backwards spelling and moving vowels to one end. The "code" was more like "read my gibberish".
You misspelled "going to"
Dialects are encouraged. You forgot punctuation.
A grammar nazi wouldn't be red-green.
I am not sure on this, but I do believe that "nazi" should be proper.
The images I still have from TINK are very different from that one
The case of the missing punctuation.
Laerod
21-03-2006, 14:35
(BTW, shouldn't it be "The images of Tink I still have..."? Just being the GN here :p)Posted them here, handed them out, where's the difference? ;)
Laerod
21-03-2006, 14:37
Not really. Backwards spelling and moving vowels to one end. The "code" was more like "read my gibberish".

Dialects are encouraged. You forgot punctuation.

I am not sure on this, but I do believe that "nazi" should be proper.

The case of the missing punctuation.
Punctuation:D Just because my punctuation is so obvious that it isn't, doesn't mean it isn't there at all;)
CanuckHeaven
21-03-2006, 14:49
We all (should) know that it's bad form to attack someone's spelling if you can't get around their arguements. I can't stand it though, when someone misspells a word for the xth time and I can't point it out to them without fear of being called a Grammar-Nazi. Especially when a specific word needs to be clarified, because it could mean different things.

Is there an acceptable manner in which one could point out spelling or grammar mistakes?
Try reading this...

Can you raed tihs? So far 95 plepoe can. i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!
Laerod
21-03-2006, 14:51
yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!I still think that sleeping is important :p
Frangland
21-03-2006, 14:56
We all (should) know that it's bad form to attack someone's spelling if you can't get around their arguements. I can't stand it though, when someone misspells a word for the xth time and I can't point it out to them without fear of being called a Grammar-Nazi. Especially when a specific word needs to be clarified, because it could mean different things.

Is there an acceptable manner in which one could point out spelling or grammar mistakes?

arguments

(I agree with the rest of your post. To answer the question posed at the end: yes, just correctly spell the misspelled word. IMO, there is no need to be snide about it.)

one other thing... since this seems to be the topic for it, i won't feel like a total a-hole for mentioning it:

people is the plural form of person... so the plural possessive form of person would be people's.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
21-03-2006, 15:01
Is there an acceptable manner in which one could point out spelling or grammar mistakes?
You could always type out

masturbation

and

grammar

in an obnoxiously big and garishly coloured font and hope that it sticks.


Aaaaah. Much better now. I've wanted to do that for so long. *leans back contendedly*
Gruenberg
21-03-2006, 15:02
Has anyone pointed out it should be "Correcting People's Spelling..."?
CanuckHeaven
21-03-2006, 15:03
I still think that sleeping is important :p
Well you really can't get sleeping out of "slpeling". :p

To answer your OP, I rarely correct anyones spelling, or grammar. However, when certain individuals suggest that private schools are better than public schools, and yet they make all kinds of spelling and grammatical errors in their posts in telling us how, I feel inclined to point out their errors. :D
Mariehamn
21-03-2006, 15:03
Just because my punctuation is so obvious that it isn't, doesn't mean it isn't there at all
Worship the gods of punctuation, lest they shall shall smite you through the works of some dude (http://www.unloosen.com/thestuff/archives/2002/02/the_gods_of_gra.html).
This (http://www.dailyheights.com/images/SharpEdges1.jpg) sign needs punctuation, most specifically exclamation points (http://www.printfree.com/Signs/SignsOctober2001/Exclamation.gif). More likely, kids need to start watching Schoolhouse Rock (http://prodigalsun.typepad.com/the_prodigal_sun/images/grammar.jpg) again.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
21-03-2006, 15:03
Has anyone pointed out it should be "Correcting People's Spelling..."?
Aw, why stop with people when you can convert whole peoples into good spellers?
Laerod
21-03-2006, 15:04
Aaaaah. Much better now. I've wanted to do that for so long. *leans back contendedly*
contentedly
Whereyouthinkyougoing
21-03-2006, 15:06
contentedly
ROFLMAO!!! :D
Holy Fuck, that *had* to happen, didn't it? And I thought I was paying attention, dammit.

You win.
CanuckHeaven
21-03-2006, 15:07
masturbation


Ahhh, that is how you spell it!!! :cool:

You must be a master speller?
Laerod
21-03-2006, 15:08
ROGLMAO!!! :D
Holy Fuck, that *had* to happen, didn't it? And I thought I was paying attention, dammit.I managed to screw up the title, as Gruenberg and Frangland are pointing out. And I managed to get the arguments wrong too.
You win.:D
Whereyouthinkyougoing
21-03-2006, 15:09
I managed to screw up the title, as Gruenberg and Frangland are pointing out. And I managed to get the arguments wrong too.
:D
I know. I only did that to make you feel better about yourself. :p
Laerod
21-03-2006, 15:11
I know. I only did that to make you feel better about yourself. :pIt worked. (And it's still working) :D
Crossing Eques
21-03-2006, 15:25
I only correct spelling when the mistakes are repeated or confusing. :headbang:

Also, that whole "scramble the word while keeping the first and last letters the same" thing is kind of hoax-stinky. It's not as simple as that. :upyours:

GIU (http://www.google.com/search?q=first+last+letter+same+scramble)
Czardas
21-03-2006, 15:38
I always correct people's spelling and grammar mistakes, even typos, and usually in the most obnoxious and embarassing way possible. :p
Heavenly Sex
21-03-2006, 15:39
Always pointing them out is just fine, especially if it's annoying stuff like "your" <-> "you're", "their" <-> "there" etc. :rolleyes:
Only exception would be *obvious* typos, where someone *accidentally* pressed a wrong key.
Czardas
21-03-2006, 15:41
Correcting Peoples' Spelling...

We all (should) know that it's bad form to attack someone's spelling if you can't get around their arguements. I can't stand it though, when someone misspells a word for the xth time and I can't point it out to them without fear of being called a Grammar-Nazi. Especially when a specific word needs to be clarified, because it could mean different things.

Is there an acceptable manner in which one could point out spelling or grammar mistakes?
PEOPLE'S.

ARGUMENTS.

I CAN'T STAND IT, THOUGH, ...

This ought to do it. :p
CanuckHeaven
21-03-2006, 15:43
I only correct spelling when the mistakes are repeated or confusing. :headbang:

Also, that whole "scramble the word while keeping the first and last letters the same" thing is kind of hoax-stinky. It's not as simple as that. :upyours:

GIU (http://www.google.com/search?q=first+last+letter+same+scramble)
Why is it a hoax? Couldn't you read it?
Laerod
21-03-2006, 15:44
This ought to do it. :pYou misspelled "overdo" ;) :p
Weedee88
21-03-2006, 16:03
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a ttoal mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

Amzanig huh?

Then check this out.

Maryann, taht is idened vrey intnritseeg, but uopn fheturr ietiignsatovn by me, it was dcisreeovd taht tihs olny wkors wehn the wdros uesd are eeecxtpd by the rdeear, or snoud salmiir to the oiioanrgl wrods dtpsiee ctaaechrr rrrgnneiaag. As you'll ntcioe you wree ublnae to ilmtdmaieey rgcznioee smoe of the wdros I uesd in my rlpey bsucaee tehy wree upctnxeeed, aglhtuoh I am qtuie pstvsiioe it is not bsacuee you wluod not rczngioee tehm nlrloamy.

I think that's facinating what do you think?
Czardas
21-03-2006, 16:28
You misspelled "overdo" ;) :p
Touché.
Katurkalurkmurkastan
21-03-2006, 16:43
their, they're, there. effect, affect. are, our.

and some words were never meant to be pluralized. i.e., just say no to fishes, peoples, and knowledges.

this is part of a much larger, ongoing rant. thank you for providing the forum OP. (and yes, I realized the first word of the sentence is capitalised. it is 'dramatic effect').
Evenrue
21-03-2006, 17:53
We all (should) know that it's bad form to attack someone's spelling if you can't get around their arguements. I can't stand it though, when someone misspells a word for the xth time and I can't point it out to them without fear of being called a Grammar-Nazi. Especially when a specific word needs to be clarified, because it could mean different things.

Is there an acceptable manner in which one could point out spelling or grammar mistakes?
In private. Private message them. It is very disrespectful when you correct someone with something as menial as minor spelling errors infront of everybody.
I'm one of those people that can't spell and it pisses me off when people keep correcting my spelling. I miss spell my own name at times. Get over it!
I beleive the only time you should correct someone is when they do it repeatedly like when my friend just HAD to correct me on spelling 'tomorrow' when we were talking about meeting the next day. Also when it is for a grade or job stuff. That can be REALLY important.
Though if they purposefully choose to miss spell words then they deserve to be corrected infront of everyone. Like when people type 'U' insted of 'you'. GRRRR! That pisses me off. At least I TRY to spell properly.
Ilie
21-03-2006, 18:12
When you are writing a part of a literature review for a group project in grad school, and the other people's parts of the paper have horrendous grammar and spelling...

...it's time to hit your head against a wall and wonder how they made it to grad school in the first place. THEN correct them.
German Nightmare
21-03-2006, 18:48
Posted them here, handed them out, where's the difference? ;)
You can have pictures of someone.
I don't believe "from" is the proper preposition when you want to say that she's depicted on that very picture. (Don't think you can say "I have a picture from her." when you mean that she's on it.)
Now, if she gave you a picture you could say "I got a picture from here.", and then you'd have a picture from her - but that wouldn't necessarily mean that she's on it.

Please correct me if I'm wrong!

one other thing... since this seems to be the topic for it, i won't feel like a total a-hole for mentioning it:

people is the plural form of person... so the plural possessive form of person would be people's.
Mmh.
One person, two persons
the person's name, those persons' names.
We the people
At the people's request
All the peoples in the world
The peoples' governments

Don't see where you got your idea from that people is the plural of person?!?

(...)
No. You post in public, you get ridiculed in public. After all, while you may or may not care about your spelling, everyone has to read through all of the mistakes - and it's especially annoying for someone like me to whom English is a foreign language, who has gone through a lot of effort to learn it correctly and then to have to read apparently wrong writing. I just can't read through it fluently 'cause I spot grave mistakes from afar, so no.

BTW, you misspelled "misspell" ;)
Good Lifes
22-03-2006, 03:22
Spelling only matters if it matters to the receiver. If you are communicating with someone who is interested in the message, then media that gets the message from one mind to another is important. But if you are dealing with someone who gives importants to spelling, then spelling can become a type of "noise" that covers up the message that you are trying to convey.

As for when you should tell someone....It matters if you are trying to help the person or using spelling as your only arguement when you have no others to answer the message.
The Jovian Moons
22-03-2006, 03:32
Add a spellcheck. Max get to work! Make me a spellcheck you lazy bastard! And when's NS2 comming out? I want my declare war option! I can be very anoying can't I?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
22-03-2006, 03:36
Spelling only matters if it matters to the receiver. If you are communicating with someone who is interested in the message, then media that gets the message from one mind to another is important. But if you are dealing with someone who gives importants to spelling, then spelling can become a type of "noise" that covers up the message that you are trying to convey.

As for when you should tell someone....It matters if you are trying to help the person or using spelling as your only arguement when you have no others to answer the message.
Those are actually some very wise words.

Of course that doesn't mean bad spelling and grammar will stop making me cringe. ;)

But you're absolutely right.
Ramissle
22-03-2006, 03:41
Ehem. I believe this should sum up this entire thread in one post:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8521121&postcount=7

If you guys don't spell right, I'm going to have to bring that out again.
New Stalinberg
22-03-2006, 04:00
Good God, my one friend talks to me on instant messenger, it's like this:

Him: hy
Me: What the hell is "hy"?
Him: hi plus hey = hy
Me: You type horribly
Him: wutz rong with dat?
Me: Dat? What is that supposed to mean!?!?
him: i dunno

AAAAAARGGGGG!!! It's the same thing with my cousin. I.E: "im going 2 go 2 a friends house today"

It's not im! It's I'm!! It's sooooooooooo annoying!!!
Brochellande
22-03-2006, 04:16
Vote Always: I'm a bit of a spelling Nazi. I see mistakes and just itch to sub-edit those poorly spelled menus (or should I say, menu's) and greengrocers' signs.

My pet hate is the confusion over 'phase' and 'faze'. Problems do not phase you, they faze you! /rant
Katganistan
22-03-2006, 04:30
Well you really can't get sleeping out of "slpeling". :p

To answer your OP, I rarely correct anyones spelling, or grammar. However, when certain individuals suggest that private schools are better than public schools, and yet they make all kinds of spelling and grammatical errors in their posts in telling us how, I feel inclined to point out their errors. :D

Indeed. Or when they point out their completely superior intellectual capabilities yet can't correctly use "their" "they're" and "there".
Katganistan
22-03-2006, 04:31
Vote Always: I'm a bit of a spelling Nazi. I see mistakes and just itch to sub-edit those poorly spelled menus (or should I say, menu's) and greengrocers' signs.

My pet hate is the confusion over 'phase' and 'faze'. Problems do not phase you, they faze you! /rant

Menus, not menu's.
Stop apostrophe abuse now. ;)
German Nightmare
22-03-2006, 09:55
Menus, not menu's.
Stop apostrophe abuse now. ;)
Right! Or else, you'll phaze serious consequences! :D
Damor
22-03-2006, 10:41
We should just appoint a moderator to correct the grammar in people's posts in a big red font. And grade them on it. :P
Laerod
22-03-2006, 10:49
You can have pictures of someone.
I don't believe "from" is the proper preposition when you want to say that she's depicted on that very picture. (Don't think you can say "I have a picture from her." when you mean that she's on it.)
Now, if she gave you a picture you could say "I got a picture from here.", and then you'd have a picture from her - but that wouldn't necessarily mean that she's on it.It is indeed a picture from her with her on it.

Please correct me if I'm wrong!Ok. You probably meant "...from her."
Gartref
22-03-2006, 10:52
My pet hate is the confusion over 'phase' and 'faze'. Problems do not phase you, they faze you! /rant

I believed that myself until my Phaser went off accidently.
Damor
22-03-2006, 10:52
My pet hate is the confusion over 'phase' and 'faze'. Problems do not phase you, they faze you! /rantI know a few sci-fi shows where problems phased people. Afterwords they could walk through walls.
But for some reason they didn't drift through the floor.
Gartref
22-03-2006, 10:56
I know a few sci-fi shows where problems phased people. Afterwords they could walk through walls.
But for some reason they didn't drift through the floor.

We both made similar bad jokes simultaneously about a comment that was made over four hours ago. We suck so much, it's scary.
Splang
22-03-2006, 13:00
You guys are so cool! :)
German Nightmare
22-03-2006, 14:58
It is indeed a picture from her with her on it.

Ok. You probably meant "...from her."
Good. And yes, I did mean from her.

And I always wondered, too, why Geordie and Ro Laren (and especially those frisky Romulans) didn't just fall towards those artificial gravity generators. Or why the gravitons had the same effect while they were phased out.

(Not like I haven't watched enough TV in my childhood... Makes you wonder why they put red shirts on their officers in that show, though!)
Evenrue
22-03-2006, 15:11
We should just appoint a moderator to correct the grammar in people's posts in a big red font. And grade them on it. :P
Not until they give us spell check! That catches most of my spelling errors since most of mine are serious enough to be caught. I don't usually make simple 'your <->you're' mistakes. That is one thing that irritates me.
I try to spell correctly but I just can not spell. It pisses me off when people correct my spelling becuase I know I can't spell so get off my ass! :upyours:
If it is the 'texting' language in IM or in a paper(God forbid) it deserves to be shown to everyone but small mistakes should be ignored as long as it doesn't alter the meaning of the message.
(Above posted in good humor :D)
German Nightmare
22-03-2006, 20:22
*whispers* 'cannot' is one word... :p
Damor
22-03-2006, 20:37
[I]And I always wondered, too, why Geordie and Ro Laren (and especially those frisky Romulans) didn't just fall towards those artificial gravity generators. Or why the gravitons had the same effect while they were phased out.Or what they breathed.. How much phased oxygen/air could they have brought with them going back to enterprise? And that's assuming there was enough on the Romulan ship in the first place..
It just fazes me having to face such phasing problems.. :p
German Nightmare
22-03-2006, 21:38
Or what they breathed.. How much phased oxygen/air could they have brought with them going back to enterprise? And that's assuming there was enough on the Romulan ship in the first place..
It just fazes me having to face such phasing problems.. :p
http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/thumb.gif
Probably a lungful? If they were only phased out so that they'd become invisible, how could they move through walls? Meh - it's one of those things that I don't really bother thinking about too much. Same goes for lightsabers and why they stop after a meter. :p
Damor
22-03-2006, 21:47
Well they weren't just phased to be invisible, standard cloaking technology would do that. Phasing is meant to bring them out of phase with the rest of the matter in the universe so they can move through everything else. (Or if you put it in a photon torpedo, it could move inside a ship despite any defense, and blow it up from the inside. But they're just not that creative.)
Riker's old ship the Pegasus had an experimental (and illegal) phasing device that'd phase the entire ship, naturally it unphased while still half inside an asteroid, killing everyone on board.

(Damn, I'm such a Star Trek nerd..)
Brochellande
23-03-2006, 04:34
Menus, not menu's.
Stop apostrophe abuse now. ;)

The problem with communicating in text... now I don't know whether you didn't get my sarcasm or deliberate use of 'menu's' - or whether I'm not getting your return serve of irony.

My brain hurts now.

There's a sign at my local pharmacy advising me to loose weight. If only I could. Be free! ... nope, it's still there. Damn.

I will, however, concede that to phase may be a legitimate verb in a strictly sci-fi environment. *gurgle*
People without names
23-03-2006, 04:41
We all (should) know that it's bad form to attack someone's spelling if you can't get around their arguements. I can't stand it though, when someone misspells a word for the xth time and I can't point it out to them without fear of being called a Grammar-Nazi. Especially when a specific word needs to be clarified, because it could mean different things.

Is there an acceptable manner in which one could point out spelling or grammar mistakes?

i agree that sometimes it needs to be corrected but not everything needs to be corrected, only those words that can mean something completely different if spelled wrong or used in the wrong grammer.

im in no way perfect, so i try to refrain from correcting people
Katganistan
23-03-2006, 04:42
their, they're, there. effect, affect. are, our.

and some words were never meant to be pluralized. i.e., just say no to fishes, peoples, and knowledges.

this is part of a much larger, ongoing rant. thank you for providing the forum OP. (and yes, I realized the first word of the sentence is capitalised. it is 'dramatic effect').

http://m-w.com/dictionary/fishes
Sorry, fishes is standard usage.

http://m-w.com/dictionary/peoples
Sorry, peoples is ALSO standard usage.
Katganistan
23-03-2006, 04:43
We should just appoint a moderator to correct the grammar in people's posts in a big red font. And grade them on it. :P


HELL NO!
CanuckHeaven
23-03-2006, 04:53
http://m-w.com/dictionary/fishes
Sorry, fishes is standard usage.
So many fish in the sea?

plural fish or fishes

It is either or.

http://m-w.com/dictionary/peoples
Sorry, peoples is ALSO standard usage.
I have never heard "peoples" used used in a sentence.

There are too many people here.

The people have spoken.

They are a proud people.

The People's Republic of North Korea.
Katganistan
23-03-2006, 05:13
So many fish in the sea?
I have never heard "peoples" used used in a sentence.

There are too many people here.

The people have spoken.

They are a proud people.

The People's Republic of North Korea.

I have an old Time-Life book called The Fishes. It is about different species of fishes.

I believe peoples is used much the way fishes is used -- to mean differing populations.

http://www.nativepeoples.com/
http://www.dpi.org/
http://www.uiowa.edu/~africart/toc/people.html
http://www.kennett.co.nz/law/indigenous/
CanuckHeaven
23-03-2006, 05:28
I have an old Time-Life book called The Fishes. It is about different species of fishes.

I believe peoples is used much the way fishes is used -- to mean differing populations.

http://www.nativepeoples.com/
http://www.dpi.org/
http://www.uiowa.edu/~africart/toc/people.html
http://www.kennett.co.nz/law/indigenous/
I stand (actually I am sitting) corrected. :D
Good Lifes
23-03-2006, 06:34
So many fish in the sea?

plural fish or fishes

It is either or.

I have never heard "peoples" used used in a sentence.


There is a difference between fish and people vs. fishes and peoples.

The first implies many without any differences noted. The second implies a consideration of differences.

Example: There are many fish in the sea. (a great many fish) vs. There are many fishes in the sea. (many species, ie. sharks, sword fish, cod, etc.)
There are many people in the world. (3-4 billion) vs. There are many peoples in the world. (Europeans, Americans, Asians, Africans, Semites, etc.)

All four words are valid but they say different things.
Boonytopia
29-03-2006, 08:39
I don't bother correcting people's spelling/grammatical errors, but I do think it detracts from their argument.
Damor
29-03-2006, 13:58
People say the darndest things sometimes when they misspell.
Ever heard of a plutonic relationship? Plutonic turns out to be an actual word, meaning, in this context, infernal. Quite a leap from the (probably) intended platonic. :p
JuNii
29-03-2006, 13:59
We all (should) know that it's bad form to attack someone's spelling if you can't get around their arguements. I can't stand it though, when someone misspells a word for the xth time and I can't point it out to them without fear of being called a Grammar-Nazi. Especially when a specific word needs to be clarified, because it could mean different things.

Is there an acceptable manner in which one could point out spelling or grammar mistakes?
point it out politely. and not as an attack on their intelligence or ability.
JuNii
29-03-2006, 14:00
People say the darndest things sometimes when they misspell.
Ever heard of a plutonic relationship? Plutonic turns out to be an actual word, meaning, in this context, infernal. Quite a leap from the (probably) intended platonic. :p
unless they were referring to the dog pluto...

*backs away from completing that thought.*
I V Stalin
29-03-2006, 14:48
unless they were referring to the dog pluto...

*backs away from completing that thought.*
Or the god. Although there are many examples in mythology of weird encounters between gods and mortals, so I guess that's not so bad. Not as bad as a dog anyway. Or even a cartoon dog.
Damor
29-03-2006, 14:54
Or the god. Although there are many examples in mythology of weird encounters between gods and mortals, so I guess that's not so bad. Not as bad as a dog anyway. Or even a cartoon dog.Well, it seems Pluto (the god) has some .. issues.. that might make it painfull to have intimate relationships with him..
If you must know, he's said to have a "thorny cock"
And of course, the meaning 'infernal' for plutonic/plutonian comes from him, Pluto being god of the underworld, which wasn't considered a happy place altogether.
Laerod
29-03-2006, 15:03
Pluto being god of the underworld, which wasn't considered a happy place altogether.Yes it was. Just not all of it.
The Elysian Fields were in the Underworld, remember?