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We know that all it takes for a man to have sex is to offer it. I am sure there are exceptions, but for the most part it is true.Women are more complicated,what turns a woman on is,at least in my view is hard to predict from one women to the next. What turns one woman on turns another one off. You can read whatever you want into the following question,that is your perogative,but all i ask is for you to complete the following. I will spread my legs for any man who......

*Takes out pen and notepad*

Sorry boys, it's not that simple.

when it comes to women, there is no such thing as free sex. a woman you dont know and who doesnt care who you are as long as you do <whatever> is best stayed away from. she will make you pay. you probably wont like the price.

Are you surprised that none of us have addressed your question?

You can read whatever you want into the following question,that is your perogative,but all i ask is for you to complete the following. I will spread my legs for any man who......

For starters, sentences like this dont inspire us to start unbuttoning/unzipping anything.

when it comes to women, there is no such thing as free sex. a woman you dont know and who doesnt care who you are as long as you do <whatever> is best stayed away from. she will make you pay. you probably wont like the price.
yep, it's true.

I gotta say--and this is coming from a straight man--if it's sex you're after, if you're just the horniest of horndogs, then being a gay male is the way to go, assuming that gay men are as not-picky as straight men are, that is. And my gay friends generally fill that description. They're sluttier than I was when I was single, and that's tough to match.

I gotta say--and this is coming from a straight man--if it's sex you're after, if you're just the horniest of horndogs, then being a gay male is the way to go, assuming that gay men are as not-picky as straight men are, that is. And my gay friends generally fill that description. They're sluttier than I was when I was single, and that's tough to match.
Well, it's just like the OP says, guys will screw anything.

Are you surprised that none of us have addressed your question?
You can read whatever you want into the following question,that is your perogative,but all i ask is for you to complete the following. I will spread my legs for any man who.....
For starters, sentences like this dont inspire us to start unbuttoning/unzipping anything.
You have hit the nail on the head, sister. If he was wondering where his problem was -- boom! spotlight -- there it is. End of date.

Is this all men care about? What it takes for women to give you free sex? Sorry, but you'll have to pay hefty prices, whether it's money, dignity, or just plain commitment. Either way, you aren't getting anything for free.

Is this all men care about? What it takes for women to give you free sex? Sorry, but you'll have to pay hefty prices, whether it's money, dignity, or just plain commitment. Either way, you aren't getting anything for free.
You live up to your NS name...

This thread confirms a long-held opinion of mine - that a lot of men who claim "not to understand" women really just aren't thinking very hard.

This thread is littered with stereotypical garbage.

*Takes out pen and notepad*
*Scribbles in AllCoolNamesAreTaken's notepad.....

milk
bread
popcorn

I will spread my legs for any man who......

There is no way to complete that sentence. Most of us are more discerning than to think that there is a catagory and any man who is in that catagory is an acceptable partner.

Sorry guys... you have to impress us on your own individual merits, there is no such thing as a free lunch.

*Scribbles in AllCoolNamesAreTaken's notepad.....

milk
bread
popcorn

Not likely. You scribbled two things I can not consume. And you wrote over the results from my "what happens when you ask a stupid question" study! Dammit, I have to start over.

I think this is a valid question, if a little badly phrased. Both sexes have the same strength of urges, and so it is mostly social the difference in attitudes to sex. What do you think would get you to have a one night stand? What imputus would be needed to ignore the social boundaries?

This thread confirms a long-held opinion of mine - that a lot of men who claim "not to understand" women really just aren't thinking very hard.
Yes, but on the plus side, there a lot of men who aren't thinking very hard, thereby opening up the field to anyone who can rub two brain cells together.

Not likely. You scribbled two things I can not consume. And you wrote over the results from my "what happens when you ask a stupid question" study! Dammit, I have to start over.
Well, you already know what happens when you ask a stupid question?

You are likely to get a stupid answer? I think the OP is finding this to be true!!

Well, you already know what happens when you ask a stupid question?

You are likely to get a stupid answer? I think the OP is finding this to be true!!

*looks up from clipboard*
*dusts off labcoat*
*clears throat in a "scientist talking to caveman" haughty way* :p

Not true. The OP is finding that if you ask a possibly insulting and stupid question of women, then you will get a scathing response.

Especially since he answered his question in his post. Women are complicated. Their minds work differently than ours do. They want different things, one of which is to not be asked what will get their legs to spread open on an internet forum.

Men, on the other hand, are simpler. I believe Chris Rock has a bit which covers this more precisely.

Are you surprised that none of us have addressed your question?



For starters, sentences like this dont inspire us to start unbuttoning/unzipping anything.
What about sentences involving corn?

AAaannnyway...

I was watching an old SNL the other day that had that band The Corrs as a guest. The chicks are crazy hot in that group and the first song they sang involved the lead singer asking what she would have to do to get the dude (not the bass player, the 'dude' that the song was being sung about...maybe the bass player, I'm not that into them...). My base level was going, "Uh, show up? Look at you, you're crazy fuckin' hot." But that's not what she was asking and it occurred to me that it really wasn't enough.

I live in California near the beach. Crazy hot is a matter of course. And I know as a guy I'm supposed to be all "I'd tap that and that, tap that twice and maybe her sister if I have time." But really, there are plenty of hot chicks that annoy the fuck out of me and I don't care how hot and heavy they where I'd have to take a pass. And I tend to get a little resentful when chicks use sexuality to get shit out of me because it feels kind of condescending. But maybe that's another subject...

The reality is in actual practice it's just better when you're into the person you're doing it with. I'm not telling any secrets, we all know this. You can find the ones that want to knock boots, there's nothing wrong with that-but it's a different game and you have to ask a different question. Because the general answer to what you're asking is obvious-they have to be into you.

If you're on the mack, they have to be as well. Which would seem to be obvious as well...

Bravo to Cannot Think of a Name.

In short, there's no such thing as free sex, a price will always be exacted. Which is why it's better not to think of it as a commodity or as some kind of goods.

Oh, and insulting generally doesn't work either. Unless of course you're only teasing and the lady in question knows you well enough already to know you're just teasing.

I was watching an old SNL the other day that had that band The Corrs as a guest. The chicks are crazy hot in that group and the first song they sang involved the lead singer asking what she would have to do to get the dude (not the bass player, the 'dude' that the song was being sung about...maybe the bass player, I'm not that into them...).

I'm guessing it's not the bass player, as the band is called the Corrs because it's made up of the four Corr siblings. ;)

I'm guessing it's not the bass player, as the band is called the Corrs because it's made up of the four Corr siblings. ;)

Well, if they were from West Virginia...

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Because the general answer to what you're asking is obvious-they have to be into you.
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Those years with the clipboard were not wasted. Well done. :)


Suggested theme song of this thread: "I Know What Boys Like", the Waitresses.

Well, if they were from West Virginia...

They're Irish, actually. And as much as nearby British royals try to make a bad example, they've conquered the idea that cousins (let alone siblings) trying to produce offspring is generally a very bad idea.

As to the question posed by this thread, I have to agree with most of the women here: using the phrase "spread her legs" will not get you anywhere with anyone you'll want to go anywhere with. Unless you're paying for it, I guess. And then your answer is money, and hope you don't mind STDs.

General tastelessness of the question aside, I'd have to say that it's not necessarily good looks. I, too, live in southern California - beaches and Abercrombie & Fitch models abound (I actually know a couple, haha). Guys that I've wanted to jump into bed with are usually the same ones who I'd actually consider a relationship with. They don't have to be hot; seriously, as holier-than-thou as it sounds, personality and charm makes someone cute. Well, cuter. Some of the hottest guys I know are complete jackasses, and they actually look physically uglier once you get to know them. It's weird. And unappealing.

Well, if they were from West Virginia...Wow, Zanato was right!!! :eek:
This thread is littered with stereotypical garbage.

Well, not to play into the same response as the other girls on the thread, I'd like to possibly put this in a different light....that light being, of course, my own. (Note: these are complete speculation, as I'm taken for life, on what I would do were I still single)

Now, let's look at the hypothetical here.
I will spread my legs for any man who......
To break it down, first of all. I will not "spread my legs", so to speak, very easily, and certain criteria must be met before I even consider that option: they must be clean, well-spoken, have a great sense of humour, and be open-minded before I'll even get to know them very well (ie one-on-one conversation). Supposing they pass the conversation barrier, there's another consideration that could halt all physical interaction -- how attractive are they? In order to get me to a stage of even heavy flirtation to light physical interaction, they have to rate at least a 6 on a scale of 10 because, well, I'm allowed to be picky (female's gift). If it makes it that far, it'll depend on his history, and this is where it gets tricky....if he's a virgin, I'll probably think "This is a little too much possible responsibility that I could want to take, considering potential backlash" and won't go any further than just making out. If he's a total man-whore, I doubt I'll even pass the flirtation stage.

Now we get to the second stage. Assuming he fits the personality and physical guidelines, and he's neither virginal nor dirty, we dig deeper. Is he sexually deviant? I'm opposed to most of the deviant side of sexual intercourse, so that's a strike. Is he on the rebound? I'm about 93% less likely to go for somebody on the rebound, knowing that it's part of the healing process, because I'm pretty opposed to purely sexual rebound flings. Does he appear to have dependency issues or any other negative psychological afflictions? I hate psychos. I've got just about all the crazy I can handle between two people, so I need a well-rounded guy. Also, once it comes down to the possibility of sex, my physical guidelines get a lot more intense: I can't settle on somebody that I'll regret later, but I can't have somebody much more attractive than me, because it'll make me self-concious. So, that's where it rockets to the 6.5-8 range on a scale of 10, taking ALL aspects into consideration.

On the off chance that a guy makes it through that minefield, it's pretty much an "Anything goes" sort of, um....romance. There's not a lot of things a guy can do that will for sure get me to "spread my legs" at this point, but there aren't very many things he can do to make me slap him and lock him out, either. I'd say at that point it's 50/50, or it depends the exact circumstance.

*Waits expentantly for men's brains to implode with that lack of useful information*

Simonist']~snip~

...Waits expentantly for men's brains to implode with that lack of useful information*

DAMMIT! My brain isn't exploding, but I have run out of room on my clipboard. AND you threw my survey off by actually providing information and not just a scathing response. Bye-bye Nobel Prize.

DAMMIT! My brain isn't exploding, but I have run out of room on my clipboard. AND you threw my survey off by actually providing information and not just a scathing response. Bye-bye Nobel Prize.
I live to ser....or, um, well.....no.....

Bye-bye Nobel Prize, indeed :D

Well, it's just like the OP says, guys will screw anything.
not true actually.
i am seriously fussy about my bed mates.

This thread just proved my belief that all women are sex-haters.

This thread just proved my belief that all women are sex-haters.
No, some of them are skanks.

But seriously, you think the skanks will be posting on NSGen in the early morning hours? Hell no. They're out having promiscuous unprotected sex with multiple partners while shooting intravenous drugs and probably needle-sharing. Then they go home, slap their sleeping babies for good measure (of which they probably have four or five by the tender age of 25), and take four shots of whiskey for a "night cap".

Lather, rinse, and repeat.

We know that all it takes for a man to have sex is to offer it. I am sure there are exceptions, but for the most part it is true.
This is not true. Myself and most of my male friends would like to know the girls that we have sex with.

Women are more complicated,what turns a woman on is,at least in my view is hard to predict from one women to the next. What turns one woman on turns another one off.
The same can be said for men. It's shocking how much rampant misandry is tolerated in our society. Men are routinely treated with less respect and subjected to more insulting generalisations than women. Here we see the men = simplistic apes generalisation.

Here we see the men = simplistic apes generalisation.

Here here. We males sometimes have vast differences in taste. For example, one of my friends and I (he even sporadically posts here) simply often cannot agree at all in what we find attractive in women, either in personality or in the physical sense.

Is this all men care about? What it takes for women to give you free sex? Sorry, but you'll have to pay hefty prices, whether it's money, dignity, or just plain commitment. Either way, you aren't getting anything for free.
I can't believe you wrote "money". Is this something to be proud of? Might as well just say "I'm a prostitute".

Sorry guys... you have to impress us on your own individual merits, there is no such thing as a free lunch.
Another thing that I've noticed in this thread is the false cultural belief that sex is something that is given by women, and taken by men.

And I tend to get a little resentful when chicks use sexuality to get shit out of me because it feels kind of condescending. But maybe that's another subject...
Yes, there are too many arrogant girls who try that. I just have a blanket policy of refusing to give them what they want.

Simonist']they have to rate at least a 6 on a scale of 10 because, well, I'm allowed to be picky (female's gift).

Everyone has that gift, not just women. I am offended by the implication that men don't and I want an explanation.

This thread just proved my belief that all women are sex-haters.
Umm, no it doesn't. You know women not men have the only organ that exists just for sexual pleasure right?

Yes, there are too many arrogant girls who try that. I just have a blanket policy of refusing to give them what they want.

Pretty much. Though the trick is not getting so pissed off that you don't start mistaking honest to goodness flirting with just fucking with you to get you do something for them. Something I'm really not that great at.

What about sentences involving corn?

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Now CTOan knows where its at.....corn. *shivers*

Now CTOan knows where its at.....corn. *shivers*
Aww yeah...;)

The total and complete irony of this thread is amazing.

No one woman is going to be turned on by exactly the same as another, however, a start would seem to be being a gentlemen and being respectful. Rather then asking a woman what opens their legs.

Just a mans point of view.

Silly Little Boys....

Men, on the other hand, are simpler. I believe Chris Rock has a bit which covers this more precisely.
Despite certain declarations, not all men are created equal. Some are quite simple and have the tact of a sledge hammer when it comes to delicate matters. Other men are somewhat more complex and although desirous of obtaining the objectives of the simple man, they approach the situation in a much more thoughtful manner. They proceed with the knowledge that women are indeed complex individuals, and as such, know that women demand a certain degree of respect, love, and understanding.

I do believe that the complex man, although born with the same two heads as the simple man, is more likely to actually think with his brain, and act upon the feelings of his heart to achieve the desired results.

*looks up from clipboard*
*dusts off labcoat*
*clears throat in a "scientist talking to caveman" haughty way* :p

Not true. The OP is finding that if you ask a possibly insulting and stupid question of women, then you will get a scathing response.

Especially since he answered his question in his post. Women are complicated. Their minds work differently than ours do. They want different things, one of which is to not be asked what will get their legs to spread open on an internet forum.
ROFL. :p
I loved that.

Oh, and I'm certainly not going to answer that OP. I had kind of hoped the thread had disappeared onto page 7 overnight...

We know that all it takes for a man to have sex is to offer it. I am sure there are exceptions, but for the most part it is true.Women are more complicated,what turns a woman on is,at least in my view is hard to predict from one women to the next. What turns one woman on turns another one off. You can read whatever you want into the following question,that is your perogative,but all i ask is for you to complete the following. I will spread my legs for any man who......
The fact that you think this would be an acceptable thing to ask most women goes a long way toward explaining why you're mystified about women.

You have hit the nail on the head, sister. If he was wondering where his problem was -- boom! spotlight -- there it is. End of date. I just posted this question before i went to bed to basically see what kind of reaction i would get and for the most part it's what i expected..talk about reactionary,I'm not looking for tips here,sex for the most part is easy to come by,if you'll excuse the expression.The question was deliberately provocative to elicit a gut response,that's my story and i'm sticking to it.;)

This thread is littered with stereotypical garbage.Stereotypes are such for a reason,don't ya think?

Pretty much. Though the trick is not getting so pissed off that you don't start mistaking honest to goodness flirting with just fucking with you to get you do something for them. Something I'm really not that great at.
Of course. The arrogant ones don't usually make me angry. It's just a chance to ruin their little "looks get me everywhere" ideas.

There is no way to complete that sentence. Most of us are more discerning than to think that there is a catagory and any man who is in that catagory is an acceptable partner.

Sorry guys... you have to impress us on your own individual merits, there is no such thing as a free lunch.I agree,there is no magic word.. is there?

Here's a question for the ladies: Would it be any more acceptable to open a thread which said, "Alright, men, what would you open your legs for?" (or other similar expression)

i expected the same responses - the fact is in a recent study woman in one hour think more about sex then men do -

Here's a question for the ladies: Would it be any more acceptable to open a thread which said, "Alright, men, what would you open your legs for?" (or other similar expression)Do you really need to ask that question?:rolleyes:

The fact that you think this would be an acceptable thing to ask most women goes a long way toward explaining why you're mystified about women.Acceptable??..I find that puzzling coming from such a forum veteran as yourself, surely you've seen lots worse. Besides I am known by people to ask questions that are shall we say provocative and if they are sometimes rude at least i get an answer that reflects what this person would say then if i couched the question in more acceptable terms and gave them time to think.

Here's a question for the ladies: Would it be any more acceptable to open a thread which said, "Alright, men, what would you open your legs for?" (or other similar expression)To me, no. But I'm sure such a thread would be wildly popular among male generalites. You'd be getting more genuine/joke answers and less cynical outrage.
Most of the posts would propapaly consist of something like "the chance to do so". It is a strange contrast.

Kids, we have a future Darwin Award winner.

Here's a question for the ladies: Would it be any more acceptable to open a thread which said, "Alright, men, what would you open your legs for?" (or other similar expression)

do we really need to open our legs, or have i been doing it wrong?

do we really need to open our legs, or have i been doing it wrong?

You need to remove the front panel with a Phillips-head screwdriver.

Simonist']So, that's where it rockets to the 6.5-8 range on a scale of 10, taking ALL aspects into consideration.
Oh, too bad. According to hotornot I just manage a 6.3. Oh, well, better luck next time!

Here's a question for the ladies: Would it be any more acceptable to open a thread which said, "Alright, men, what would you open your legs for?" (or other similar expression)


I cant speak for the rest of the women on here, but if I were making this same thread about men, I would phrase it differently. It would be hypocritical to gripe about the phrasing of the OP's thread and then for the women to turn around and say the exact same thing.

We know that all it takes for a man to have sex is to offer it. I am sure there are exceptions, but for the most part it is true.Women are more complicated,what turns a woman on is,at least in my view is hard to predict from one women to the next. What turns one woman on turns another one off. You can read whatever you want into the following question,that is your perogative,but all i ask is for you to complete the following. I will spread my legs for any man who......Oh joy, the same stupid stereotype..."Men want all sex all the time, have no standards, and will do anything for some ass. Women are 'complicated' and 'emotional' and need to be bribed into having sex. There is a formula for getting women to give up the sex, and men can learn this formula to ensure that they can get what they really want out of women."

Let me keep it simple for the dingbats out there:

Every man is different, and so is every woman. What turns on one man may turn off another, just as what turns on one woman may turn off another. Contrary to the ridiculous and utterly false notions that many people seem to hold, the vast vast vast majority of men have plenty of personal standards when it comes to sex. Contrary to the pathetic stereotypes, women are sexual beings just as men are, and the female sex drive IS EVERY BIT AS STRONG AS THE MALE SEX DRIVE. At many points in life, female sex drive may even be higher.

The only reason why men act like sex-crazed beasts is because they are allowed to, because they are allowed to act like spoilt babies and everybody writes it off as "boys will be boys." The only reason women don't express the same aggressive sexuality is because they're told they are sluts and worthless trash if they do. Women are told they deserve to get STDs, to be forced to bear children, and to suffer whatever painful consequences can be pushed on them by society if they dare to enjoy sex for the sake of pleasure. Want to know about turn offs? Well, there you go, dumbass.

Until you can get these simple realities through your head, you should not be asking any person, male or female, to have sex with you. In doing so you would be encouraging pedophilia, since you are very clearly still a child and it would be wrong for anybody to have sexual contact with you until you grow up.

You obviously gave this reply some thought but seems you only read the original post and and not the reason i gave as to why i posted the question in the first place. Next time read through the rest of the posts and save us the trouble of reading your longwinded reply.Take a deep breath now...

You obviously gave this reply some thought but seems you only read the original post and and not the reason i gave as to why i posted the question in the first place. Next time read through the rest of the posts and save us the trouble of reading your longwinded reply.Take a deep breath now...

:eek: Mouthing off to Bottle....

*ducks so he isn't hit by flying blood*

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In effect, the question of the thread is: Why don't women accept offers of sex as often as men?
Interpreting your response in that light, the answer you're giving seems to be: Because they're scared of societal disapproval.
So, in a radical misinterpretation, your answer to the OP's question would be: Stop us from being scared.

I can't believe you wrote "money". Is this something to be proud of? Might as well just say "I'm a prostitute".
There's more to thinking a boy will pay, so to speak, with money than being a prostitute. I don't know what the girls you date are like, but when I was younger, the ONLY reason I would've dated a guy was if he was rich and could buy me stuff. If men never feared that women were interested in their bank, pre-nups would never come into play.

Another thing that I've noticed in this thread is the false cultural belief that sex is something that is given by women, and taken by men.
Even though some (including myself) have admitted that many women pull the opposite.....? Whatever, your views, not gonna argue that one....

Yes, there are too many arrogant girls who try that. I just have a blanket policy of refusing to give them what they want.
Girls, by and large, will "use sexuality" to get things they want out of you, whether they're good people or little vixens. It has nothing to do with arrogance, they think it's pragmatic. The womens' view, most of the time, is that they have more self control (sexually speaking) and if they can dangle it like candy -- or, on the other side of the coin, deny it entirely -- until they get what they want, many will see that as an appropriate means to an end, without viewing it as manipulative. Want to change the mindset of THAT many women? Great job, good luck, but you better get started now -- NS isn't exactly where you'll run into them, and you've got a shit ton of work ahead of you.

Everyone has that gift, not just women. I am offended by the implication that men don't and I want an explanation.
Hmmm, that's cute. I don't really feel the need to "explain" myself like a child in time-out. Had you chosen to word it in any less of an abraisive manner, I'd be happy to explain it to you, and with very little derision and head-patting along the way. Too bad.

Umm, no it doesn't. You know women not men have the only organ that exists just for sexual pleasure right?
That doesn't, in and of itself, mean that women DO or HAVE TO like sex, though. Sex is psychological as much as it is physical, and I know plenty of women who are just repulsed by the entire sex scenario. Just because we have it doesn't mean we get any use out of it. Learn the distinguish for yourself before you call sexism and stereotype on others.

Simonist'] I don't know what the girls you date are like, but when I was younger, the ONLY reason I would've dated a guy was if he was rich and could buy me stuff.
wow there's something in that sentence i really don't like, but i can't quite put my finger on what it is...


Simonist']The womens' view, most of the time, is that they have more self control (sexually speaking) and if they can dangle it like candy -- or, on the other side of the coin, deny it entirely -- until they get what they want, many will see that as an appropriate means to an end, without viewing it as manipulative

how can anyone not see that as manipulative? :confused:

wow there's something in that sentence i really don't like, but i can't quite put my finger on what it is...
The bitter truth about Simonist's past: is it too much for PM to handle? :eek:
Actually I don't like that I was like that, but y'know....I was young, it was high school, and I live in an area where if you're not deliciously wealthy (as many seem to be) then nobody seems to care about you. I was playing into what I thought I was supposed to be doing.

how can anyone not see that as manipulative? :confused:
This I'm not sure about, in personal terms, because I opt NOT to use myself in such a way. But apparently a lot of my chick friends feel it's justified to do that to their boyfriends/husbands when they really want something.

how can anyone not see that as manipulative? :confused:
Through the amazing power of rationalization. Thanks to it you can do downright criminal stuff and still consider yourself a good person. People use it all the time.

Simonist']Actually I don't like that I was like that, but y'know....I was young, it was high school, and I live in an area where if you're not deliciously wealthy (as many seem to be) then nobody seems to care about you. I was playing into what I thought I was supposed to be doing.
Many young girls are like that. Just in the same way that many young boys are stupid jerks at the same age. I write it off as immaturity. It's really a sad when you meet someone like that who should know better, though.

Simonist']Well, not to play into the same response as the other girls on the thread, I'd like to possibly put this in a different light....that light being, of course, my own. (Note: these are complete speculation, as I'm taken for life, on what I would do were I still single)

Now, let's look at the hypothetical here.

To break it down, first of all. I will not "spread my legs", so to speak, very easily, and certain criteria must be met before I even consider that option: they must be clean, well-spoken, have a great sense of humour, and be open-minded before I'll even get to know them very well (ie one-on-one conversation). Supposing they pass the conversation barrier, there's another consideration that could halt all physical interaction -- how attractive are they? In order to get me to a stage of even heavy flirtation to light physical interaction, they have to rate at least a 6 on a scale of 10 because, well, I'm allowed to be picky (female's gift). If it makes it that far, it'll depend on his history, and this is where it gets tricky....if he's a virgin, I'll probably think "This is a little too much possible responsibility that I could want to take, considering potential backlash" and won't go any further than just making out. If he's a total man-whore, I doubt I'll even pass the flirtation stage.

Now we get to the second stage. Assuming he fits the personality and physical guidelines, and he's neither virginal nor dirty, we dig deeper. Is he sexually deviant? I'm opposed to most of the deviant side of sexual intercourse, so that's a strike. Is he on the rebound? I'm about 93% less likely to go for somebody on the rebound, knowing that it's part of the healing process, because I'm pretty opposed to purely sexual rebound flings. Does he appear to have dependency issues or any other negative psychological afflictions? I hate psychos. I've got just about all the crazy I can handle between two people, so I need a well-rounded guy. Also, once it comes down to the possibility of sex, my physical guidelines get a lot more intense: I can't settle on somebody that I'll regret later, but I can't have somebody much more attractive than me, because it'll make me self-concious. So, that's where it rockets to the 6.5-8 range on a scale of 10, taking ALL aspects into consideration.

On the off chance that a guy makes it through that minefield, it's pretty much an "Anything goes" sort of, um....romance. There's not a lot of things a guy can do that will for sure get me to "spread my legs" at this point, but there aren't very many things he can do to make me slap him and lock him out, either. I'd say at that point it's 50/50, or it depends the exact circumstance.

*Waits expentantly for men's brains to implode with that lack of useful information*

sounds like i'm perfect for ya so ;)

how can anyone not see that as manipulative? :confused:
I've no idea. I can't imagine thinking in that way. thank fuck (for both of us) that i'm not like that!

Either:
a) this isn't true and it's a false stereotype of females that makes me look bad
b) it is true and I belong to a screwed up gender that makes me look bad

So in either case, it pisses me off :P

But, oh well - we're in a great, healthy, open, non-manipulative, non-mind-game-playing relationship so hurrah! :p :fluffle:

sounds like i'm perfect for ya so ;)
Then maybe you missed that "taken for life" part, buddy.... :p

Acceptable??..I find that puzzling coming from such a forum veteran as yourself, surely you've seen lots worse. Besides I am known by people to ask questions that are shall we say provocative and if they are sometimes rude at least i get an answer that reflects what this person would say then if i couched the question in more acceptable terms and gave them time to think.

Provocative? No, it's just rude and stupid.

I hope you never have children. If this is how you ask for girl advice, I can die assured you won't.

Simonist']Then maybe you missed that "taken for life" part, buddy.... :p

oops
oh well, i'll have to go back to my girlfriend....

Think about things from a biological, or rather evolutionary point of view and you will find the answer to most questions to do with human behaviour. Men are generally more promiscuous than women as they are able to sleep around with no consequences (concequences = pregnancy). In fact, men are biologically geared to do that. Ever thought why men make millions of sperm per day while women release one egg per month? Women on the other hand have the problem of pregnancy being a major investment of time and energy so must be sure that a) they will survive it and b) they've got the right genes from the guy. Which leads us onto why women are so much more shallow than men. Men are notoriously attacked for being shallow and going for women solely on the basis of looks. Well duh! If they look hot, they've got the best genes for survival to pass on to your offspring and are more likely to survive pregnancy and child birth. But at least men are openly shallow. Women on the other hand are looking for one thing. The ability to support them during pregnancy and in the upbringing of the child. This is why women go for rich and powerful men regardless of whether they look like the woodsman who chopped down the ugly tree and didn't get out of the way. But again, good genes are important so the strong fit, more likely to survive guy is the one they'll be looking for as affair material. This way they get the best physical genes but have the unsuspecting rich guy bring the kid up as his own. So to sum up, the best way to get a woman into bed is to be smart (-potential to get rich and good survival tool), sensitive (-shows you care for her and can look after a child), good looking (-good genes=better survival), well built (-survival) and rich (-able to provide for her and offspring).

So to sum up, the best way to get a woman into bed is to be smart (-potential to get rich and good survival tool), sensitive (-shows you care for her and can look after a child), good looking (-good genes=better survival), well built (-survival) and rich (-able to provide for her and offspring).


oh, is THAT all? :rolleyes:

We know that all it takes for a man to have sex is to offer it. I am sure there are exceptions, but for the most part it is true.Women are more complicated,what turns a woman on is,at least in my view is hard to predict from one women to the next. What turns one woman on turns another one off. You can read whatever you want into the following question,that is your perogative,but all i ask is for you to complete the following. I will spread my legs for any man who......

Yeah, yeah, all men want to have sex and are easy to get into bed...tell that to a lot of girls I have met, they are probably wondering "how do I get that GUY into bed." Hmm, I sound a bit cocky, I am not saying that all girls like me like that, but I dont like any girls like that. I had to break up with a girlfriend because after 2 months she was pestering me night and day to have sex, it drove me nuts and I wasnt about to "change" myself for her in that way.

Role reversal is awfully fun when they dont realize it. I am the gatkeeper in my relationships, not the female. Better yet, , I have not been socialized to submit to pressure, but to react against it. Its awesome!

Provocative? No, it's just rude and stupid.

I hope you never have children. If this is how you ask for girl advice, I can die assured you won't.Jeez, everybody is entitled to their opinion, even you,kudos to you for your enlightened opinion, but come on did you read my other posts.

Jeez, everybody is entitled to their opinion, even you,kudos to you for your enlightened opinion, but come on did you read my other posts.

Yes, and I stand thoroughly by my opinion. Don't have kids.

This past term I took a Human Sexuality class where we had little response pads. One question referred to one's willingness to have sex.

There was quite a large number of women in the course who said that they would have sex just for the physical pleasure of it while there were also a large number of men who said that they could not and would not have sex without being in love with the other person.
Everyone has different tastes

Women, eh?

This past term I took a Human Sexuality class where we had little response pads. One question referred to one's willingness to have sex.

There was quite a large number of women in the course who said that they would have sex just for the physical pleasure of it while there were also a large number of men who said that they could not and would not have sex without being in love with the other person.
Everyone has different tastes

Actually, I think that was a case of "experimental college girls" vs. "sneaky guys trying to appear sensitive".

Yes, and I stand thoroughly by my opinion. Don't have kids.Don't you ever get tired of being a self-righteous person,I mean it must be such a burden to hold the standard high,no? Oh, and have a good day.

Do you really need to ask that question? :rolleyes:
As much as you needed to ask your original question.

Most of the posts would propapaly consist of something like "the chance to do so". It is a strange contrast.
I see you're yet another poster, along with [NS]Simonist and SHAENDRA, who would have us believe that men are so desparate for sex that they'll do anyone without a thought. Sorry, but women are no more discerning than men as a whole. You think there aren't many women out there who are desparate for sex and who have no more requirements than "a big penis"?

do we really need to open our legs, or have i been doing it wrong?
lol, you know what I mean!

Oh joy, the same stupid stereotype..."Men want all sex all the time, have no standards, and will do anything for some ass. Women are 'complicated' and 'emotional' and need to be bribed into having sex. There is a formula for getting women to give up the sex, and men can learn this formula to ensure that they can get what they really want out of women."

Let me keep it simple for the dingbats out there:

Every man is different, and so is every woman. What turns on one man may turn off another, just as what turns on one woman may turn off another.
Thanks you Bottle. I'm glad I'm not the only person who views men and women with equal respect.

In effect, the question of the thread is: Why don't women accept offers of sex as often as men?
How often do men get offered sex? With the exception of prostitutes, no random woman has ever said to me, "hey want to fuck?" It has only ever happened to two of my male friends and guess what, they both said no. So excuse me if I call bullshit.

Simonist']There's more to thinking a boy will pay, so to speak, with money than being a prostitute. I don't know what the girls you date are like
They're heterosexual. I'm not interested in gold-diggers (nor am I rich so I have nothing to fear!)

but when I was younger, the ONLY reason I would've dated a guy was if he was rich and could buy me stuff.
Are you heterosexual? (It's OK if you were only interested in one-night stands, are gay, or asexual, I'm open minded)

Even though some (including myself) have admitted that many women pull the opposite.....? Whatever, your views, not gonna argue that one....
Sorry I don't understand. Re-phrase this more clearly.

Girls, by and large, will "use sexuality" to get things they want out of you, whether they're good people or little vixens. It has nothing to do with arrogance, they think it's pragmatic.
It's not pragmatic, at least not when it comes to me. I labelled it as arrogance because it usually indicates a belief that they are so overpoweringly attractive that men can't say no.

The womens' view, most of the time, is that they have more self control (sexually speaking) and if they can dangle it like candy -- or, on the other side of the coin, deny it entirely -- until they get what they want, many will see that as an appropriate means to an end, without viewing it as manipulative.
I don't think it's manipulative, since the tactic fails to manipulate me every time. I find it offensive, in fact more pitiful than anything else. Offensive in the assumption that I can't say no, and pitiful in that they have nothing else to offer to get what they want.

Want to change the mindset of THAT many women? Great job, good luck, but you better get started now -- NS isn't exactly where you'll run into them, and you've got a shit ton of work ahead of you.
I don't care about changing their mindset.

Hmmm, that's cute. I don't really feel the need to "explain" myself like a child in time-out. Had you chosen to word it in any less of an abraisive manner, I'd be happy to explain it to you, and with very little derision and head-patting along the way. Too bad.
You think saying that men are unable to be selective about their sexual partners, isn't abrasive? You don't think that you were treating men in a condescending manner, then you accuse me of the same?

I doubt your explanation would be of any worth other than furthering your own misandry.

That doesn't, in and of itself, mean that women DO or HAVE TO like sex, though.
Most women do.

Sex is psychological as much as it is physical, and I know plenty of women who are just repulsed by the entire sex scenario.
It's OK to be asexual, but that's not the majority of women.

Just because we have it doesn't mean we get any use out of it. Learn the distinguish for yourself before you call sexism and stereotype on others.
Yes, because refuting the statement that "all women hate sex" is the same as saying that "all women love sex." :rolleyes:

Simonist']This I'm not sure about, in personal terms, because I opt NOT to use myself in such a way. But apparently a lot of my chick friends feel it's justified to do that to their boyfriends/husbands when they really want something.
I'm sorry to hear that there is such a power imbalance in your friends' relationships, that they have to resort to that.

I see you're yet another poster, along with [NS]Simonist and SHAENDRA, who would have us believe that men are so desparate for sex that they'll do anyone without a thought. Sorry, but women are no more discerning than men as a whole. You think there aren't many women out there who are desparate for sex and who have no more requirements than "a big penis"?
To be fair, while I completely agree with your point, men often seem more willing than females to promote the ridiculous stereotype of themselves as "so desparate for sex that they'll do anyone without a thought".
This seems especially true when talking about this forum, as Kreitz was.

But, oh well - we're in a great, healthy, open, non-manipulative, non-mind-game-playing relationship so hurrah!
You and Huw (say it rhymes!) get my double thumbs up!

Actually, I think that was a case of "experimental college girls" vs. "sneaky guys trying to appear sensitive".
Thanks for your rigid affirmation of gender roles, we needed that.

They couldn't have been telling the truth could they? We know this because girls don't get pleasure from sex unless they're going through an "experimental phase". We also know that men don't feel love, in fact they don't have any feelings that don't involve "I'd like to stick my dick in that". :rolleyes:

To be fair, while I completely agree with your point, men often seem more willing than females to promote the ridiculous stereotype of themselves as "so desparate for sex that they'll do anyone without a thought".
This seems especially true when talking about this forum, as Kreitz was.
Yes I know, and they make me so damn annoyed. It would be OK if they just said "I'll do anyone with a hole!" but when they say that all men are like them, they say that I am like them which annoys me.

In the 1950s there were plenty of women who believed that all women should be good wives and homemakers as well.

What I don’t understand is, why are women so much more selective in their sexual partners than men? Probably has something to do with societal conditioning traceable back to the public school system, the media and residual religious values.

You and Huw (say it rhymes!) get my double thumbs up!
(you think we haven't noticed that? :P) *feels special*

Yes I know, and they make me so damn annoyed. It would be OK if they just said "I'll do anyone with a hole!" but when they say that all men are like them, they say that I am like them which annoys me.
Well, you have my sympathies. Females who do similar things piss me off too. Though, really, all the people who generalise in these situations piss me off.

What I don’t understand is, why are women so much more selective in their sexual partners than men?
Thing is, I don't believe that they are. Most men I know are selective, and so are most women I know. I know some men who will gladly do anyone, and I know some women who will gladly get done by anyone. The only difference is that the men are slightly more public about it, but when it comes down to it, women are no more selective than men. See Bottle's post for further explanation.

I will spread my legs for any man who.........there is no such thing as a free lunch.
Woah! Less of that imagery, thanks! :eek:

is nobody willing to respond to my points?

You and Huw (say it rhymes!) get my double thumbs up!

damn right! thank you :) :fluffle:

is nobody willing to respond to my points?You put too much thought into them. If your points were dull and provocative with plenty of holes in them, then you might get some nice responses. :D

You put too much thought into them. If your points were dull and provocative with plenty of holes in them, then you might get some nice responses. :D
Yeah, someday I to hope to become a UN Abassadorship. It's like anywhere he writes, hundreds of posts form instantly.

Yeah, someday I to hope to become a UN Abassadorship. It's like anywhere he writes, hundreds of posts form instantly.
Make a puppet. I'm sure thats what UNA really is anyway.

Simonist']Girls, by and large, will "use sexuality" to get things they want out of you, whether they're good people or little vixens. It has nothing to do with arrogance, they think it's pragmatic. The womens' view, most of the time, is that they have more self control (sexually speaking) and if they can dangle it like candy -- or, on the other side of the coin, deny it entirely -- until they get what they want, many will see that as an appropriate means to an end, without viewing it as manipulative. Want to change the mindset of THAT many women? Great job, good luck, but you better get started now -- NS isn't exactly where you'll run into them, and you've got a shit ton of work ahead of you.

And some women wonder why chivalry is dead...:rolleyes:


Hmmm, that's cute. I don't really feel the need to "explain" myself like a child in time-out. Had you chosen to word it in any less of an abraisive manner, I'd be happy to explain it to you, and with very little derision and head-patting along the way. Too bad.

Wow...I've had the shit kicked out of me for making comments half as smart-assed as that one came across.

Simonist']No, some of them are skanks.
Bah humbug! I'll belive it when I see it. :p

Until you can get these simple realities through your head, you should not be asking any person, male or female, to have sex with you. In doing so you would be encouraging pedophilia, since you are very clearly still a child and it would be wrong for anybody to have sexual contact with you until you grow up.
Wow. What a prude. :p

Make a puppet. I'm sure thats what UNA really is anyway.
I don't really know how to translate my arguments into troll-speak.

-snip-

Holy shit, I've been sigged.

Getting back to the topic: I wouldn't "do it" with just anyone, especially manipulative women. If they want to act that way, fine. They're not getting anything out of me.

And, even if someone I liked asked me to go for it, I probably wouldn't. Fun as it may potentially be, bad things can arise from it. Plus, it takes certain circumstances for me to actually be in the mood.