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See, I had a bandaid with abo on my face because of a rather deep cut I inflicted on myself by accident. (Don't ask...it's embarrasing.) That bandaid just fell into my tomato soup. I picked up, tossed it away, and continued eating. Now, did I just poison myself in doing so?

Yes, that is why you should never put bandaids on open wounds.

Yes, that is why you should never put bandaids on open wounds.
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I meant to ingest, you dolt.

You should be fine. Your body probably absorbed most of the ointment, and it probably isn't very poisonous to begin with. The worst that'll happen is you'll get the shits or maybe vomit.

You should be fine. Your body probably absorbed most of the ointment, and it probably isn't very poisonous to begin with. The worst that'll happen is you'll get the shits or maybe vomit.
Oh okay then. Thank you, good sir.

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I'd close the thread but this kind of forum doesn't allow its users to do that. -_-

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I meant to ingest, you dolt.
Why would something that can touch blood be poisonous? Think about it.

Okay, so you've had that bandaid on your highly-absorbing skin for quite some time and now you're worried that having dropped it in your tomato soup will cause you harm?

Come on - worry about something else. Even if it didn't have any antibacterial stuff on it but was dripping with scab and pus your body could deal with it!

And you know I have to ask: What'd you do to your face to need a bandaid in the first place?

See, I had a bandaid with abo on my face because of a rather deep cut I inflicted on myself by accident. (Don't ask...it's embarrasing.) That bandaid just fell into my tomato soup. I picked up, tossed it away, and continued eating. Now, did I just poison myself in doing so?

Are you a bacteria? If so, then prepare to meet your maker, otherwise don't sweat it. The same anti bacterial ingredient used in your ointment is likely the same active ingredient that has been used in numerous applications, soaps, diaper pails, wipes so on and so forth since the 1950's.
The biggest problem I see is your willingness to eat the soup in which you just dropped a dirty, filthy bacteria laden band aid into, moments ago. Stay away from the plumbing trade, especially if you bite your fingernails.

Why would something that can touch blood be poisonous? Think about it.
Well, perhaps poisonous is a misnomer. It might affect one's stomach or other parts of the digestive system. Or not. I cannot really say.

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Okay, fine, so you're making perfect sense and I'm an idiot. -___-

Okay, so you've had that bandaid on your highly-absorbing skin for quite some time and now you're worried that having dropped it in your tomato soup will cause you harm?

Come on - worry about something else. Even if it didn't have any antibacterial stuff on it but was dripping with scab and pus your body could deal with it!

And you know I have to ask: What'd you do to your face to need a bandaid in the first place?
I fell againt a kitchen counter and slashed my cheek on the corner of it.

Liverbreath: It just didn't occur to me till a few minutes afterwards, is all. And don't worry: I don't bite my fingernails nor intend to have anything to do with the plumbing business.

Oh okay then. Thank you, good sir.

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I'd close the thread but this kind of forum doesn't allow its users to do that. -_-
No, you can't but will be mocked for it for the rest of your NS-life :p

I fell againt a kitchen counter and slashed my cheek on the corner of it.
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:eek: Aw, man! Sounds like something I'd manage to do...

:eek: Aw, man! Sounds like something I'd manage to do...
It was my dog, Pepper. She likes running underfoot. This time she made me trip.

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I could have sworn the look she gave me afterwards was some kind of deliciously satisfied smirk.

No, you can't but will be mocked for it for the rest of your NS-life :p

I drink to that :D !

It was my dog, Pepper. She likes running underfoot. This time she made me trip.

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I could have sworn the look she gave me afterwards was some kind of deliciously satisfied smirk.
It seems that Pepper is some kind of smirking devil-dog ;)

(BTW, tomato soup is really healthy - that was one thing I wanted to say in my first reply-post but I forgot...).

Liverbreath: It just didn't occur to me till a few minutes afterwards, is all. And don't worry: I don't bite my fingernails nor intend to have anything to do with the plumbing business.

Who knows. Maybe the key to mankind's survival is avoiding a global pandemic by bolstering our immune systems with dirty band-aid snacks! After all moldy bread saved millions, so I'll be racing you to the patent office shortly! ;)

Who knows. Maybe the key to mankind's survival is avoiding a global pandemic by bolstering our immune systems with dirty band-aid snacks! After all moldy bread saved millions, so I'll be racing you to the patent office shortly! ;)
NICE!

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Or we could usher in a new superplague that can't be stopped that kills everyone on Earth. Either way, EVERYBODY WINS!

NICE!

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Or we could usher in a new superplague that can't be stopped that kills everyone on Earth. Either way, EVERYBODY WINS!
Just wait till I finish MY tomato soup. I've dropped it in the toilet.

NICE!

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Or we could usher in a new superplague that can't be stopped that kills everyone on Earth. Either way, EVERYBODY WINS!

As long as I can still post on NS I'm fine with it :p

Just wait till I finish MY tomato soup. I've dropped it in the toilet.
I hear that adds extra flavor. Do tell us what it tastes like.

I hear that adds extra flavor. Do tell us what it tastes like.
It's not as bad as the bandaid I've had earlier.

See, I had a bandaid with abo on my face because of a rather deep cut I inflicted on myself by accident. (Don't ask...it's embarrasing.) That bandaid just fell into my tomato soup. I picked up, tossed it away, and continued eating. Now, did I just poison myself in doing so?

Did you have rasins in your tomato soup? Was it canned tomato soup? If canned did you have to mix it with water or milk? Did you mix it with water or milk? Did you put popcorn in your tomato soup?

I need more information to determine if you are going to die of facial cut band aid tomato soup poisoning or not.

Is antibacterial oinment poisonous?

No... but it is a super-laxative. I hope you don't have plans for the evening.

Did you have rasins in your tomato soup? Was it canned tomato soup? If canned did you have to mix it with water or milk? Did you mix it with water or milk? Did you put popcorn in your tomato soup?

I need more information to determine if you are going to die of facial cut band aid tomato soup poisoning or not.
Popcorn? Raisins? :confused:

See, I had a bandaid with abo on my face because of a rather deep cut I inflicted on myself by accident. (Don't ask...it's embarrasing.) That bandaid just fell into my tomato soup. I picked up, tossed it away, and continued eating. Now, did I just poison myself in doing so?
No, you've not poisoned yourself. Now, if you had smeared tomato soup on your cut, then, yeah, you'd probably die horribly. But, interestingly, not the other way around. As long as it's your cut. And your soup. However, be advised that you are not immune to everything your own body produces. Like Liverbreath said, don't play with the plumbing. And wash your hands. Were you raised by wolves?

BTW, just for the record, antibacterial ointments are poisonous -- just not poisonous enough.

"Everything is poison and there is nothing in the world that is without poison. Only the dose determines if a thing is a poison." -- Paracelsus.

You'd have to consume several packets of ointment to die. A drop should be ok...its safe for your skin, no?(I know that doesnt justify it...)

No, you've not poisoned yourself. Now, if you had smeared tomato soup on your cut, then, yeah, you'd probably die horribly. But, interestingly, not the other way around. As long as it's your cut. And your soup. However, be advised that you are not immune to everything your own body produces. Like Liverbreath said, don't play with the plumbing. And wash your hands. Were you raised by wolves?

BTW, just for the record, antibacterial ointments are poisonous -- just not poisonous enough.

"Everything is poison and there is nothing in the world that is without poison. Only the dose determines if a thing is a poison." -- Paracelsus.Stop being such a hypochondriac. You make it sound much more problematic than it is. A pint of beer is probably more poisonous than bandaid. Ethanol - the most commonly used anti-bacteria agent (what do you think kills off the yeast in beer and the worm in tequilla?).

Besides ingestion can make a fair few poisons harmless, such as snake venom. This doesn't apply to pharmaceuticals because they've been developed to withstand stomach acid. Some poisons can even have positive uses, such as the drug for alleivating high blood pressure is a derivative of snake venom.

A common anti-bacterial agent in ointments is neomycin. A 1oz tube of neomycin contains 98mg of neomycin in total. The LD50 of neomycin is in excess of 8 grams. You would have to eat well over 40 tubes of the stuff for it to threaten your life

Dropping a bandaid in some soup and quickly removing it gives virtually no time for the anti-bacterial agent to disperse into the soup from the plaster. I would be extremely suprised if Kyronea experienced ANY side effects.

Stop being such a hypochondriac. You make it sound much more problematic than it is. A pint of beer is probably more poisonous than bandaid. Ethanol - the most commonly used anti-bacteria agent (what do you think kills off the yeast in beer and the worm in tequilla?).

Besides ingestion can make a fair few poisons harmless, such as snake venom. This doesn't apply to pharmaceuticals because they've been developed to withstand stomach acid. Some poisons can even have positive uses, such as the drug for alleivating high blood pressure is a derivative of snake venom.

A common anti-bacterial agent in ointments is neomycin. A 1oz tube of neomycin contains 98mg of neomycin in total. The LD50 of neomycin is in excess of 8 grams.

Dropping a bandaid in some soup and quickly removing it gives virtually no time for the anti-bacterial agent to disperse into the soup from the plaster. I would be extremely suprised if Kyronea experienced ANY side effects.
And fugu sushi is more poisonous than beer. What's your point?

The guy asked two questions: (1) Are antibacterial ointments poisonous, and (2) had he poisoned himself by dropping some in his soup? Answers, in order, yes and no. Because although, technically, the ointment is poisonous, the dose is too small to be harmful to a human. But there is a reason why the packaging is clearly marked "for external use only." It's because it's poisonous. Not terribly so, but still. What, I should have left that part out? The man was asking for information. Jeez.

EDIT: PS: I stand by my comment that he might have suffered if he had gotten soup into his cut rather than the other way around. Then he would have really needed antibacterial ointment. I also don't think it's particularly hypochondriacal to advise someone to wash their hands, particularly if they are in the habit of fishing things out of their soup with their fingers and have a cut on their face.

Is this thread still going on? I think the op has digested by now.

And fugu sushi is more poisonous than beer. What's your point?

The guy asked two questions: (1) Are antibacterial ointments poisonous, and (2) had he poisoned himself by dropping some in his soup? Answers, in order, yes and no. Because although, technically, the ointment is poisonous, the dose is too small to be harmful to a human. But there is a reason why the packaging is clearly marked "for external use only." It's because it's poisonous. Not terribly so, but still. What, I should have left that part out? The man was asking for information. Jeez.You said in your own post that doseage is also a determinant in toxicity. As such the anti-bacterial agent in that doesage is not poisonous. Or perhaps you would care to enlighten us about the toxicity of oxygen?

Also, fugu sushi isn't poisonous. The whole point is that they don't serve you the poisonous part of the fish.

My point is also that you could smear tomato soup all over a cut and you'd still be fine. Hell, you could probably go rub some dirt from your garden in the cut and you'd still be fine. Today's world is overly protective in its medical care.

You said in your own post that doseage is also a determinant in toxicity. As such the anti-bacterial agent in that doesage is not poisonous. Or perhaps you would care to enlighten us about the toxicity of oxygen?

Also, fugu sushi isn't poisonous. The whole point is that they don't serve you the poisonous part of the fish.

My point is also that you could smear tomato soup all over a cut and you'd still be fine. Hell, you could probably go rub some dirt from your garden in the cut and you'd still be fine. Today's world is overly protective in its medical care.
40 hours of exposure to pure oxygen permanently damages lung tissue. Oxygen is a corrosive chemical.

Fugu sushi is poisonous. Approximately 100 people are hospitalized or killed by eating it every year in Japan. The meat that is eaten contains less of the poison than the glands and liver, but it does contain some. That's why it makes your mouth numb and gives you a buzz, which is why people spend so much money to eat it. Poison can be yummy. Vodka and gin are poisonous, too, if taken in sufficient quantity, but that doesn't stop me from drinking martinis. I like walking that tightrope.

As you say, the doseage in the ointment is not enough to poison a human being, but that doesn't mean the antibacterial agent in the ointment is not, itself, poisonous -- just that you'd have to swallow a lot of it to feel an effect. That's what Paracelsus meant.

40 hours of exposure to pure oxygen permanently damages lung tissue. Oxygen is a corrosive chemical.

Fugu sushi is poisonous. Approximately 100 people are hospitalized or killed by eating it every year in Japan. The meat that is eaten contains less of the poison than the glands and liver, but it does contain some. That's why it makes your mouth numb and gives you a buzz, which is why people spend so much money to eat it. Poison can be yummy. Vodka and gin are poisonous, too, if taken in sufficient quantity, but that doesn't stop me from drinking martinis. I like walking that tightrope.

As you say, the doseage in the ointment is not enough to poison a human being, but that doesn't mean the antibacterial agent in the ointment is not, itself, poisonous -- just that you'd have to swallow a lot of it to feel an effect. That's what Paracelsus meant.The irony is the pure oxygen causes hypoxia, which is a condition that can result in death because a lack of oxygen. Which I think happens not long after the lung tissue damage. I'm sure you knew that though. So I won't pretend to try tell you something you probably already know. Water can be toxic too. This seems invalidate calling anything a poison because of what it is.

I didn't know that about the sushi, but then I don't eat much sushi.

Also, lemon juice and vinegar are corrosive chemicals too. What's your point? ;)

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My point is also that you could smear tomato soup all over a cut and you'd still be fine. Hell, you could probably go rub some dirt from your garden in the cut and you'd still be fine. Today's world is overly protective in its medical care.
While that is true to a certain extent I would definitely not advise anyone to rub dirt into an open cut unless they've had their tetanus shots...

But you're right - there's an old German saying: "Dreck reinigt den Magen" (="dirt cleans the stomach") pretty much meaning the more you're used to dirt and stuff, the less likely you're going to have problems when you encounter it later on in your life.
And honestly, I don't really see a point in all these antibacterial products - they only do two things:
1) people who grow up in a "sterile" environment have a weaker immune system and are more likely to get sick when they do encounter bacteria
2) while those antibacterial products might kill off 99% of those germs encountered, that 1% is free to thrive - and guess how well that is for us humies again... The overuse of antibacterial products and antibiotics has already created stems that can only be treated by one or two special antibiotics from the vault.

So, do yourselves a favor and go eat some dirt :D